Gambling- Believe in Strategy or Luck - page 3.

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Both of them require effort to achieve the profit.

Strategy, you need learn by doing. Need the process !
Luck , if you keep consistent do it, the profit will come upon you !

Quote from: BitBustah on August 18, 2018, 10:33:10 AM

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However I would make an exception with Sports betting and Poker. These require skill and knowledge if you want to be successful.

Games such as roulette, dice, blackjack, craps, slots, etc all come down to luck and there really isn't anything you can do to boost the odds.

I agree, just make sure that you're play on legit place because I'm ever heard that poker was being cheat although they can win.

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Quote from: AMNA NAZ on August 18, 2018, 11:00:47 AM

Quote from: Lady Coquet on August 18, 2018, 10:20:43 AM

Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

I believe that gambling is in both strategy and luck because everytime in a gambling game even it is a dice game, slot game, or card game you always used strategy and luck at the same time for you to win the prize money.

Both luck and strategies are important in every format of gambling. even in dice game where we totally depend on our luck but still we need to have good strategy and planning for playing dice game, which can be too much helpful in preventing ourselves from a big lost and making a good money.

Luck's not really important in games like poker though of course it can change the outcome but that doesn't happen on a consistent basis for usbto believe it's important. But who wouldn't want to be lucky right? It's just that lack of luck can be compensated with skill and strategy.

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Quote from: Lady Coquet on August 18, 2018, 10:20:43 AM

Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

I believe that gambling is in both strategy and luck because everytime in a gambling game even it is a dice game, slot game, or card game you always used strategy and luck at the same time for you to win the prize money.

Both luck and strategies are important in every format of gambling. even in dice game where we totally depend on our luck but still we need to have good strategy and planning for playing dice game, which can be too much helpful in preventing ourselves from a big lost and making a good money.

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There may be a few strategies that give you a slight advantage but it mostly comes down to luck. Everything in this world comes down to luck : Where you were born, who your parents are, good health, and gambling.

However I would make an exception with Sports betting and Poker. These require skill and knowledge if you want to be successful.

Games such as roulette, dice, blackjack, craps, slots, etc all come down to luck and there really isn't anything you can do to boost the odds.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

I believe that gambling is in both strategy and luck because everytime in a gambling game even it is a dice game, slot game, or card game you always used strategy and luck at the same time for you to win the prize money.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on August 18, 2018, 09:18:51 AM

Quote from: dupee419 on August 15, 2018, 08:21:10 AM

BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.

Both of them are indeed needed for gambling but I think luck is more needed than strategy. Even a gambler who doesn't have strategy can win in a gamble if they have luck of their side. On the other side, even the strategic gambler can lose if they are not lucky so for me, luck plays a bigger role in gambling compare to strategy.

Though the problem in there is that you can't really call in the "luck" since no one ever knows how luck rolls in. A lot of gamblers says that if you are straightly winning a game, you are lucky but what if that is just a coincidence. But luck or not, as long as you are not using all of your money into gambling, that is better than hoping to win on gambling.

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Quote from: dupee419 on August 15, 2018, 08:21:10 AM

BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.

Both of them are indeed needed for gambling but I think luck is more needed than strategy. Even a gambler who doesn't have strategy can win in a gamble if they have luck of their side. On the other side, even the strategic gambler can lose if they are not lucky so for me, luck plays a bigger role in gambling compare to strategy.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Yes, in any gambling strategy and tactics are always used, we don't know about luck, it can be said to be pure, because to get good luck is not that easy even though the strategy has been run, but often the victory is always present at the gambling that I play

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I’m not really confident about luck. You’ll never really know what the dice or card will show you, unless of course it’s scripted and the game is scamming you. I’d rather stick to strategy. With this, you’ll increase your thinking capability and will be able to have an open mind to whatever may happen.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

I believe in strategy because we can also use that way to win and I also believe in luck because it is more effective to have than strategy although we can use strategy but we can deny that luck is better.

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Quote from: Symphonized on August 15, 2018, 11:59:17 PM

Quote from: earnadoge on August 15, 2018, 11:23:41 AM

I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing. Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge. A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more. In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one. And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured. Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit. These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.

Well then you have just failed on probabilistics calculations and how to gamble properly.
I have tons of strategies made by myself on excel and they work always when my rolls are ready to use them.
By ready i mean when i see my rolls history and predict them, that's how im in a positive side Wink

Also you need to use each strategy with low profits as possible, meaning, high red streaks possibility and low profit overall.
Everything above by counting on using a strategy not MORE then 20 minutes or a certain specific roll count.

Sounds like short term strategies, I couldn't find something where you can wager your bank over and over with an advantage. No hand limits, no time limits, just wager massive amounts with little edge, that I couldn't find after a year. Triggers, cut offs, stop losses, nothing could withstand infinity, or be guaranteed in short term.
There is lots of good stuff for short term play in simulation, and I had a lot of fun.

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Quote from: hacekd on August 14, 2018, 06:49:19 AM

Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

This is the key to winning gambling that you must have. If you want to play gambling you must know about the gambling game you want to play. From knowing about how to play and some other knowledge. this is to avoid you playing monotonously. Because playing without knowledge can bring fatigue to you.

And you know that is such harmful game that is called gambling in your terms. Why people are advising others to get engaged in such activities. Why they don’t know the pros are about negligible while cons are numerous. This game is all based on destruction so whoever would get involved there must be ruining his life. Don’t advise your brother to get to execution in this way.

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Quote from: maydna on August 16, 2018, 02:25:15 AM

Quote from: dupee419 on August 15, 2018, 08:21:10 AM

BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.

strategy and luck are related in the gambling game but the luck gets the high place than the strategies, and we should always know that without luck, we cannot be the winner. and if you don't have a good strategy, it's no problem as long as you have your luck in the game so you will win the game. we don't have to be a strategic but we need to have luck in our side.

I agree with you. Strategies or skills are nothing without luck. Maybe, you have a good strategy and good skills but if you don't have luck, your skills and strategies don't count.

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I don't believe in the strategy because gambling is always based on the luck, i never won any gambling through strategy. Gamblers will make money through blind guessing only and through logic, it is impossible to make money.

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Quote from: dupee419 on August 15, 2018, 08:21:10 AM

BELIEVE IN BOTH! Both Strategy and Luck will mesh well into your games, If you do not have any strategy within your game, then I don't think you should be asking for luck to appear in your games, I mean if you do not use your brain and not become strategic with any moves you do, then I don't think luck is even necessary.

strategy and luck are related in the gambling game but the luck gets the high place than the strategies, and we should always know that without luck, we cannot be the winner. and if you don't have a good strategy, it's no problem as long as you have your luck in the game so you will win the game. we don't have to be a strategic but we need to have luck in our side.

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Quote from: Symphonized on August 15, 2018, 11:59:17 PM

Quote from: earnadoge on August 15, 2018, 11:23:41 AM

I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing. Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge. A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more. In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one. And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured. Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit. These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.

Well then you have just failed on probabilistics calculations and how to gamble properly.
I have tons of strategies made by myself on excel and they work always when my rolls are ready to use them.
By ready i mean when i see my rolls history and predict them, that's how im in a positive side Wink

Also you need to use each strategy with low profits as possible, meaning, high red streaks possibility and low profit overall.
Everything above by counting on using a strategy not MORE then 20 minutes or a certain specific roll count.

I haven’t thought about it to input my strategies in an excel file and I guess it would really be helpful especially the statistics on how much you have to gamble, how much to win and using the strategy and other stuff because with that data, you could improve the gameplay and that’s awesome. The time constraint is very critical in my opinion.

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Quote from: earnadoge on August 15, 2018, 11:23:41 AM

I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing. Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge. A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more. In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one. And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured. Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit. These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.

Well then you have just failed on probabilistics calculations and how to gamble properly.
I have tons of strategies made by myself on excel and they work always when my rolls are ready to use them.
By ready i mean when i see my rolls history and predict them, that's how im in a positive side Wink

Also you need to use each strategy with low profits as possible, meaning, high red streaks possibility and low profit overall.
Everything above by counting on using a strategy not MORE then 20 minutes or a certain specific roll count.

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Quote from: earnadoge on August 15, 2018, 11:23:41 AM

I've spent a year in excel simulating trying to find a good strat, and found nothing. Or at least not a golden goose, stuff goes down, goes up, and super long term trends are all down due to edge. A good strat should explode on good results, and than luck pays more. In simulation there is no human touch, its kind of like a formula, and a formula cannot beat gambling, or at least not a simple one. And it's really hard to simulate explosive results, because profits need to be captured. Based on simulation a human touch added to good progressive system might capture some profits, but it might end up being $14 an hour with a bank over 50k, betting 100 bucks per unit. These type of low profits, and such a high entry point is not attractive, and no guarantee of any profits.

The thing is, there's a tendency that you get tremendous amount of reds/losses so you're going to need a bankroll that's enormously larger than your base bet as your bets are increasing exponentially. Any strategy will only work with unlimited bankroll and unlimited bet amount. This is simply impossible because no one has unlimited bankroll, for one. Secondly, most gambling sites have a limit on the bet amount but then again someone can't have unlimited bankroll, thus, no unlimited bet amount.

It's just not worth betting with so much money for so little gains while exposing yourself to the tendency of losing it all once you've hit the maximum losing streak your bankroll can cover.

Quote from: btctalk4life on August 15, 2018, 06:44:58 AM

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Uh there are many pro poker players out ther like daniel negreanu and they can even earn a living by playing poker competitive. Skill, strategy and luck are important on gambling including poker too.

And you know this because? You have watched him on TV, right? The things that you see in TV aren't the same things in real life. Competitive poker has so much cut so that what they are going to air are interesting rounds. In real life, they fold so much until both the opponents have good cards and are ready to play big. You can be right, that you can earn a living by playing poker. On the other hand, you are not a professional poker player and you don't get paid to play in a casino. You are just a regular player holding on nothing but luck and strategy.

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Quote from: el kaka22 on August 15, 2018, 01:04:01 PM

Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

A bit of both but mainly luck. I mean luck gets you wins, strategy gets you less losses. I can gamble for 10 hours straight with 10 dollars and not run out of money, that is strategy to me. However if I want to gamble with 10 dollars and make it to 100 dollars than that is luck. So, it depends on what you want from gambling, making money or having fun ?

If you want to have fun than there are strategies that will help you good results as in not lose too quickly but if you want to make money from gambling than you need to have lady luck on your side to help you with some good returns that is out of the house edge and to your side.

It's good to have that luck at our side, but don't expect it to be yours all the time. We might loss our bets most of the time, and that strategy for whatever brilliant it is has no assurance. Just enjoy and have fun, because lucky winnings can be a secondary scenario that will be acquired from gambling.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

A bit of both but mainly luck. I mean luck gets you wins, strategy gets you less losses. I can gamble for 10 hours straight with 10 dollars and not run out of money, that is strategy to me. However if I want to gamble with 10 dollars and make it to 100 dollars than that is luck. So, it depends on what you want from gambling, making money or having fun ?

If you want to have fun than there are strategies that will help you good results as in not lose too quickly but if you want to make money from gambling than you need to have lady luck on your side to help you with some good returns that is out of the house edge and to your side.

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