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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Luck is a thing that we don't know until we make actions, while strategy is the way we use to try to get the best result from our actions. So for me, luck and strategy are both important since those two things can't be separated. I use strategies and if I failed that means I am not lucky and vice versa.

I got your point but what I am unable to solve is, in a game which is totally depending on luck, how can someone make strategies to win a certain bet. It is not like making a plan is going to help the gambler in winning a bet. If he is destined to face defeat, no matter how good an analytic he is, he can kiss his money a goodbye. However, limiting number of shots can save him.

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Quote from: btc-facebook on August 10, 2018, 02:58:22 AM

Mostly depend on luck.
There some gambling type that using strategy such like poker that using bluffing in order to win and the rest it's depend on luck.
Since most people depend on luck, not many people interest on gambling for money maker because of the risk upon it !

There is nothing except luck. If you are lucky someday, better for you and congratulations on advance from such terrific win. But what if the day isn’t lucky? And mostly people aren’t lucky. Then destruction is there waving hands at you and saying hi. Keep it away from you because this would be the last option for a person to say good bye to gambling once he knows about it in first place.

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Quote from: maydna on August 12, 2018, 02:20:35 AM

I agree that dice roll, slot, and poker games need the luck to win the game but maybe in the other gambling game, not just needed luck to win but it will need a strategy because I see that some people use the strategy to win the game and with a combination of luck and strategy, I think they can win much money. but I believe that we must have a luck so we can be winning the game and we can get that winning money.

For those random games in which you cannot have a strategy on since any result may appear then luck would be the main factor in it since you just cannot count anything unlike in card games. When you play dice, the result maybe anything and even if you may use a martingale strategy in it, there is still a chance of losing big in that kind of game.

Of course in other games wherein you can have an edge like research in sports games and knowing the strong teams then it would not just be a wild guess because you have a basis why you choose that particular team. In this case, a good strategy is an advantage and you can even find maybe an arbitrage so that you know that whatever the result is, you are having profits.

so in this situations, we can have a chance for making a strategy in the sports games especially if we can know which team that has a strong player. so I agree with you that in the sports besides luck, we need to make a strategy which can help us to win. but still, the luck factor will be the determining factor to win in the sports games because if we watch football team, team A has a strong and good player and they are featured in that game than the team B but unfortunately, the fortune is at the team B so team B can win the game. and it also happens in the other sports game that we watch on television.

and I have a result for this, maybe in some games especially in the sports game, we need to make a strategy but in the other game, we don't have to make a strategy and we only depend on our luck to win. and the luck factor will always take the part in the gambling games no matter if it's a sports game or the other gambling games.

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Quote from: xuan87 on August 12, 2018, 06:06:54 AM

You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

Many of the games are luck based and strategy does not work in those games. Yes in cards or some other do require strategyz to pull the game on your side and with luck on your side chances of you winning increases.

I can even say that strategy in gambling is just like a myth. It does exist but it does not work to make people win in gambling. No matter what games we are going to play, luck is still the one that decide the outcome.
I cant deny that I did try and use several strategies when gambling, but it does not mean that I believe in strategy. Not really sure how to say about but in simple word, I use but I dont believe it.

Agree that luck will be the most important thing to determine your win, but in some gambling games your skills, your intelegence, and strategies will also affect the outcome of gambling, for example in poker, of course you can lose if you are not good at strategies for reading the mind of the opponent, changing the perspective of the opponent and so on.

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Quote from: onrise on August 13, 2018, 12:16:50 PM

Quote from: xuan87 on August 12, 2018, 06:06:54 AM

You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

Many of the games are luck based and strategy does not work in those games. Yes in cards or some other do require strategyz to pull the game on your side and with luck on your side chances of you winning increases.

I can even say that strategy in gambling is just like a myth. It does exist but it does not work to make people win in gambling. No matter what games we are going to play, luck is still the one that decide the outcome.
I cant deny that I did try and use several strategies when gambling, but it does not mean that I believe in strategy. Not really sure how to say about but in simple word, I use but I dont believe it.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Well of course if you were to be given either of the two, then being lucky is much more preferable, though of course we all know realistically that's not possible. Luck will have a big effect even on skill based gambling games.

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Quote from: xuan87 on August 12, 2018, 06:06:54 AM

You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

Many of the games are luck based and strategy does not work in those games. Yes in cards or some other do require strategyz to pull the game on your side and with luck on your side chances of you winning increases.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

If you are more lucky then you don't need anything,you will win in the gambling,but strategy have nothing to do in the gambling other than the money and time management which can save you from serious losses but strategies won't give any win in the bets.

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Quote from: xuan87 on August 12, 2018, 06:06:54 AM

You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

In fact, luck can help us win or not is still a mystery, I even suspect that casinos help us win, they want us to have the belief that victory still exists then we will use more money to gamble, and what they need to do is destroy us on all fronts, a very sophisticated trap. And as I said, the results are already available, so I prefer to have a more strategic, and precisely this strategy helps us live longer in gambling, enjoy the fun instead of looking for a win because we do not have a chance when the casinos track each of our actions

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

Just like what you said on last sentence, I'm usually play these games which need more luck than strategy so which one I believe ? Luck for sure. It's useless for me to play using automated dice strategy that only have one result afterwards. So till now manual still the best for me when playing dice game Wink

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Quote from: dupee419 on August 12, 2018, 12:45:18 AM

Specifically speaking, gambling simply means you are playing, and in a game there are millions of possibilities, strategies are a must when you are playing, and on the other hand, luck comes in with you when your confidence goes up, luck and being strategic is one of your major keys when you are gambling.

Whoever does not want to take it should leave it, but you are right, there is no way math can help anyone to win in gambling. Yes, any mathematical strategies are not good enough to pass through those millions of possibilities and this is the reason why our gambling strategies are good while theoretical and not withstanding in real world.

This is a game of probability and that is the only way the math part come in, which we all know that probability is the extent to which an event is likely to occur, measured by the ratio of the favorable cases to the whole number of cases possible according to the dictionary, but that does not mean the effect is liable to occur by all means as you are still predicting anyway to an outcome you do not know what the future hold for it.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

You are completely mistaken about the bold part, it is true that you need some luck once in a while in the game of poker since there are times where it seems that all the cards that you need do not come up and yet the cards that your opponent needs always seems to appear, but poker is not a game of luck, poker is a game of skill.

If it was a game of luck then it will be impossible to see poker players as successful as Doyle Brunson, Johnny Chan or Phil Hellmuth, while we could say they have needed some sort of luck to get there it is impossible to explain their success with the luck argument, they have skill in the game and they have shown that consistently over the years.

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You definitely need luck to win in gambling, most of the gambling like dice, video poker and etc rely on luck to win,no strategy is going to make you win, the strategy only can prevent you to make reckless decision and prevent losses, but strategy is very important, so before you gamble you definitely need to have a good strategy

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Quote from: maydna on August 12, 2018, 02:20:35 AM

I agree that dice roll, slot, and poker games need the luck to win the game but maybe in the other gambling game, not just needed luck to win but it will need a strategy because I see that some people use the strategy to win the game and with a combination of luck and strategy, I think they can win much money. but I believe that we must have a luck so we can be winning the game and we can get that winning money.

For those random games in which you cannot have a strategy on since any result may appear then luck would be the main factor in it since you just cannot count anything unlike in card games. When you play dice, the result maybe anything and even if you may use a martingale strategy in it, there is still a chance of losing big in that kind of game.

Of course in other games wherein you can have an edge like research in sports games and knowing the strong teams then it would not just be a wild guess because you have a basis why you choose that particular team. In this case, a good strategy is an advantage and you can even find maybe an arbitrage so that you know that whatever the result is, you are having profits.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

I believe you meant to say sports betting here. Well, although I've heard multiple times that successful sports betting requires knowledge and good strategy I still think it doesn't work like that. The thing is that in sports betting you are playing against other gamblers who have the same knowledge and most likely use similar strategies. In order to earn good from sports betting you have to bet on unpredictable result and win the bet, which is possible only with the help of luck, unless you have some inside info working as a coach or a team doctor.

Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

There's a big difference between dice/slots and poker games imo. Dice and slots purely depend on luck, while in poker (real online poker, not video poker which is the same as slots) you definitely need some skills in order to play with profit.

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I agree that dice roll, slot, and poker games need the luck to win the game but maybe in the other gambling game, not just needed luck to win but it will need a strategy because I see that some people use the strategy to win the game and with a combination of luck and strategy, I think they can win much money. but I believe that we must have a luck so we can be winning the game and we can get that winning money.

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Specifically speaking, gambling simply means you are playing, and in a game there are millions of possibilities, strategies are a must when you are playing, and on the other hand, luck comes in with you when your confidence goes up, luck and being strategic is one of your major keys when you are gambling.

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You need both on your side for sure . i generally don't believe in luck but when it comes to gambling , certainly it plays a huge role especially in games such as dice rolls . in case of games like poker, strategy has more wight than luck .
bottom line , you are gonna need both to minimize your risks.

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According to the game upon which we get involved the reality of the requirement varies. To me for sports betting strategy about each player gives me a combined outline whether the betting will win or not. Here too lick is required but to some extend. While the same when we get into dice and other form of slot games the luck plays a bigger role even when we make strategies to overcome.

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Quote from: Wipro on August 09, 2018, 08:07:43 AM

Gambling is relay with both these things. Strategy and Luck.

Here I want to know which one is best in your belief. Please share your thoughts guys.

I believe in betting we can work around with tactics and it will be best option to make money out with gambling.

For dice roll, slot roll and poker games we definetely need the luck as a main factor.

I will assume all things related to gambling are things related to luck. I believe that there is no strategy in gambling games. Gambling games will only be influenced by luck. Personally, I want to say that gambling can destroy the life we have, it's all because of the huge gambling influence with a very strong addiction scheme.

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