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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.

We will probably be mistaken when we consider that online gambling are the ones that always have the openness for scam related activities and assumed that the physical casinos are less involved in this, scam is what we can't predict how, where or who can engage in making such attack or those that will be heavily affected from the attack as well, as long as it is humanbeing who were involved in this, they can do and undo.
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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof. After all, they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.
The thing is that both online and offline casinos when it comes to reputation what differentiates them is just the determination of the team to stay consistent with the handling of issues and build a good reputation for themselves.

I have seen where an online casinos settle issues on time and since as long that they are licensed it becomes equal to them to be able to be called out just like the physical casinos,  so I don't see any difference between the online casinos and physical one when it comes to handling issues that may arise along the line.
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I believe that what happens is that the casino that has sponsored important leagues, important teams, are in different countries providing services accepting local currencies from that country and even have company headquarters in several countries, they will not scam people because they have licenses different respecting each country, they need to have their identities revealed to operate in different countries, unlike an online casino that only has a Curacao license and operates only on the internet and its owner is anonymous and can deceive and steal people's money, the casino that wants to operate in several countries around the world using local currencies from that same country, it needs to acquire a casino license from that country

and countries like my country for example, will ask that the casino has a license from my country so that the casino accepts local currency from my country and has a physical office, this was the case with 1xbet in my country they have a license from my country and have a physical office in my country and has a telephone number. You can see his address in my country:



source: https://www.google.com/maps/place/1xBet/@-25.9291504,32.5544954,166m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m6!3m5!1s0x1ee69baadc7392f3:0x199c722103a132b4!8m2!3d-25.9291202!4d32.5550754!16s%2Fg%2F11smfx6xvs?entry=ttu

Yes, these scammers have a physical office in my country and sponsor my country's football league. I honestly don't know how many people in my country use this casino scam, but it is a fact that they are sponsoring big clubs and are in many countries and there are no cases of scam accusations coming from these clubs that they sponsor. In other words, the big clubs they sponsor did the necessary research and signed partnership agreements and are not complaining about this scam casino, they were smart, they keep creating other scam casinos and avoid links with the main casino. and with that the big scammer ( 1xbet  ) continues to operate
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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.
We mostly get scammed online esily that is why online casinos keep coming out everytime looking for new gambling that would be giving them traffic frequently to increase the growth of the casino. Whatever we are doing, we should make sure that we get satisfaction from it so that we don't come back and complain later for mistake that we make ourselves.
Whatever category we prefer whether online or offline casino, we need to get result which is what will keep us going and betting more to make more winnings.
You would really be able to avoid all the hassles and the possibility of able to encounter some shitty casino/betting platforms if you do really just that simply stick into those reputable ones rather than on making yourself that engaging into t hose new ones and it doesnt matter whether it would really be that offline or online then it wont really be that hard to find out about their legitimacy.If you are really that seeing some
similar names then having some research wont really be that much of an issue because if you do find yourself that something interesting then it would really be just that normal that you would really
be making up some confirmation on the things that you are dealing with.

Similar names? Offline and online? Making some clear information should really be your main priority because if you do miss out on doing so then you might really be that able to make a step
on which it would really be resulting into having some headaches just because you've been experiencing some issues which are supposedly to be that be able avoid if you do make
just things to be right or you have done your own research first before you do make some deposits.
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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.
We mostly get scammed online esily that is why online casinos keep coming out everytime looking for new gambling that would be giving them traffic frequently to increase the growth of the casino. Whatever we are doing, we should make sure that we get satisfaction from it so that we don't come back and complain later for mistake that we make ourselves.
Whatever category we prefer whether online or offline casino, we need to get result which is what will keep us going and betting more to make more winnings.
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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.

It's pretty harder for an offline version to scam people than they do online, players can easily file a complaint and the authorities will take action quickly for fear of public outrage, our offline casinos here are very quick to address even small issues because they will lose clients and they will also their license, compared to online version even if they have a hundred complaints they can continue to operate because it's hard to charge online casinos.
And if online casinos say you are a cheater, they don't need to prove you are, because they will deny to show proof because they are afraid that their security system will be exposed and cheaters will find a way to manipulate it.
So your chances to withdraw your earnings offline are better online provided that you play fair.
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The games in a "Brick n Mortar" casino usually consist of a bunch of Slot machines and some table games... and these machines are not easily "re-configured" ....so manipulation of the RTP and other variables are a more complex process.

The games in an Online casinos are not that complicated and many of the original in-house games can be "configured" by the local casino developers. The third party slots will change certain parameters on their games at request from the customer, but this does not happen regularly... they usually sign an agreement before they "rent" access to the games.  Roll Eyes

Well explained. In addition, Brick n Mortar/IRL Casino slot games has lower RTP compared to slot games on online casino since they have slot games on IRL casino that has an RTP that can go below 90% which is very rare to online casino since most of the slot provider in online has a very low RTP because they have less operating cost compared to IRL casino that pays for electricity and and other physical bills.

What I don't understand here is who audit this slot provider in online casino to guarantee fairness of their RTP because AFAIK that they are not covered by the Curacao license. This is the big question I have in mind because Brick n mortar slot games has undergo on physical audit it release to the public.
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I think the most disappointing thing about offline casinos is that they are trying to be offline but at the same time, digitized.

Let me explain what I mean with an example : you go into a casino in Las Vegas and sit down to play slots. Except the machine won't accept change or dollars, it only accepts pre-paid deposits on some BS membership card. Later you decide to try Blackjack, but you quickly learn that the Blackjack table is now a computer screen on a different machine. All this is very disappointing and different from how you remember the casino experience, even a decade ago.

You decide to go home and gamble on your own computer screen. The end.

At least, that is how I feel about the current state offline gambling casinos.
I don't blame them though for updating their systems in this manner because they are just trying to keep up with the latest trends which is why you cannot expect them to stick to old fashioned blackjack tables etc.

We might get completely digital blackjack tables, Baccarat tables etc at these offline casinos in the future.
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OK, I guess by "Offline" version you mean a physical casino or what they call a "Brick n Mortar" casino... right? The main difference between the two types of casinos are the games that are on offer and how these games are controlled.

The games in a "Brick n Mortar" casino usually consist of a bunch of Slot machines and some table games... and these machines are not easily "re-configured" ....so manipulation of the RTP and other variables are a more complex process.

The games in an Online casinos are not that complicated and many of the original in-house games can be "configured" by the local casino developers. The third party slots will change certain parameters on their games at request from the customer, but this does not happen regularly... they usually sign an agreement before they "rent" access to the games.  Roll Eyes
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I think the most disappointing thing about offline casinos is that they are trying to be offline but at the same time, digitized.

Let me explain what I mean with an example : you go into a casino in Las Vegas and sit down to play slots. Except the machine won't accept change or dollars, it only accepts pre-paid deposits on some BS membership card. Later you decide to try Blackjack, but you quickly learn that the Blackjack table is now a computer screen on a different machine. All this is very disappointing and different from how you remember the casino experience, even a decade ago.

You decide to go home and gamble on your own computer screen. The end.

At least, that is how I feel about the current state offline gambling casinos.
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People tend to have this belief or mindset that a physical betting shop or offline betting version is more legit than its online betting shop in the sense that they are physically interacting or seeing the people who run the offline version and even their house and to some extent, friends of those that operate these offline betting shops, furthermore believe that these offline version has passed through any of this government registration like CAC registration and others here in Nigeria and so are licensed to operate.
Well, let me say that this which you said may only apply to Nigeria and maybe some other third world countries, In a more developed countries where more than two third of their citizens have gone digital, it will be difficult for offline betting shops to thrive more than their online versions, note I said offline betting shops, not full-fledged gambling casinos where it is possible for customers to play slot machines, a lot of casino games and so on aside sports betting.

Even in Nigeria,  the notion is changing,  and gamblers are beginning to divert their attention into online casino trust is not what is mostly considered by many any time soon and that has also been proven by how many are not leaving physical casinos to adopt online cryptocurrencies casino,  which they now see as the best replacement to the trouble associated with physical casinos.

For me,  I rather stake my bet from my mobile device than go into the bet store to make a game order which is what many do here in my locality that have exposed their privacy and open rooms for one or two attacks on them.
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       -   Literally speaking, they are not the same; the location is far away because online, you can only gamble via the internet, while in a land-based casino, even without the internet, you can still gamble.

In addition to that, online casinos offer a lot of bonuses compared to physical casinos that don't have them. But in a physical casino, you must bring a large amount of money, while in an online casino, even a small amount is fine.

You are correct mate online casino seems different from the offline casino as there are big differences. Your points are valid and I am also of the opinion that online casino seems more cheaper and offers more bonuses than offline casino while offline casino customer care is very swift and active, online casino customer service is not that active as offline casino because they have office where you can go verify or rectify any complaints you have but the online casino seems different from that. Offline casino I can say are close to their community while online I think have that challenge and since it is a digital platforms a digital community is their option to communicate with their community and in some cases the community platform is porous to scammers and hackers. I think there are lots of other factors that differentiates the both of them.
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       -   Literally speaking, they are not the same; the location is far away because online, you can only gamble via the internet, while in a land-based casino, even without the internet, you can still gamble.

In addition to that, online casinos offer a lot of bonuses compared to physical casinos that don't have them. But in a physical casino, you must bring a large amount of money, while in an online casino, even a small amount is fine.

They are thesame if the same gambling organization is in charge of them both, what only makes some difference is the version in which they existed, on is online and the other offline, but we can also consider more differences like the way they were being played, though this doesn't change anything about their rules or policy than the way to play their games, bonuses exist on both online and offline, if not people wouldn't have been interested on offline gambling.
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Some names are meant for the purpose of gambling and we don't find the difference easily. I've seen winzogames.com and winz.io which are two different platforms. Person playing in any one of the platform could get into the other platform next time, if he had forgotten about the correct URL. Some gambling sites used to provide with mirror links which used to provide us with the regional service from the same provider. As said in the OP this isn't found everywhere, regions where the internet penetration is found low platforms with similar names attract the users.
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People tend to have this belief or mindset that a physical betting shop or offline betting version is more legit than its online betting shop in the sense that they are physically interacting or seeing the people who run the offline version and even their house and to some extent, friends of those that operate these offline betting shops, furthermore believe that these offline version has passed through any of this government registration like CAC registration and others here in Nigeria and so are licensed to operate.
What makes people think that way is that,  in a physical casino, they may have the chance to see the owner or operator,  which makes them feel safer in case they have a good winning,  although some of us don't border about that at all since we already have a reputable casino which has proven us beyond doubt as far as gambling online is a concern,  so for such set of people,  there is no clear difference between which class we trust, and even with privacy crisis which online casino solved that issue for some of us who use cryptocurrency to gamble which guarantee 100% privacy, but that can not be said with the physical casino which everyone will see you while you enter the casino some time.
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I’ve never heard the term offline casino before. I was wondering how an online casino could have an offline version but it seems as though you’re talking about an actual casino that exists physically. Very weird to refer to it as an offline casino. I think you may be spending a little too much time behind a computer if you refer to normal things in your life as the offline versions.
Maybe because you aren't really into gambling? But if you do, then this term will not be foreign to you, a long with other gambling terms which are not in the mainstream.

Despite of it, it is still impressive that you guess it correctly on how it works or what it look's like. That's right, that in order for an online casino to have an offline version, they need to create a physical casino. They can set it up as long as the country and place allows it but it will be better if they can set it up on a very crowded area so that they can effectively attract people to play on them. They can offer the same service but the experience are slightly different. We all know why.
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People tend to have this belief or mindset that a physical betting shop or offline betting version is more legit than its online betting shop in the sense that they are physically interacting or seeing the people who run the offline version and even their house and to some extent, friends of those that operate these offline betting shops, furthermore believe that these offline version has passed through any of this government registration like CAC registration and others here in Nigeria and so are licensed to operate.
Well, let me say that this which you said may only apply to Nigeria and maybe some other third world countries, In a more developed countries where more than two third of their citizens have gone digital, it will be difficult for offline betting shops to thrive more than their online versions, note I said offline betting shops, not full-fledged gambling casinos where it is possible for customers to play slot machines, alot of casino games and so on aside sports betting.

So, for countries where her citizens are not much of internet users, it is expected that offline betting shops will do well, whether they are CAC registered or not (in reference to nigeria here).
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There is probably a few reasons for this mismatch.  The online part of a land based casino could be owned by different people who do not share the same values or commitment to quality as the physical location.  Or maybe the owners just do not put as much effort into managing the web version and  it is disappointing when you expect the same great experience from a casinos website and it falls short.  I guess the lesson is you cannot assume an offline brand you trust will automatically deliver online too.  You gotta check out their internet reputation separately. The good thing is that you will usually find a lot more reviews for an online casino than for its offline counterpart.
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People tend to have this belief or mindset that a physical betting shop or offline betting version is more legit than its online betting shop in the sense that they are physically interacting or seeing the people who run the offline version and even their house and to some extent, friends of those that operate these offline betting shops, furthermore believe that these offline version has passed through any of this government registration like CAC registration and others here in Nigeria and so are licensed to operate.
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Honestly, I think the reason for the reputation difference largely comes down to how these casinos are managed and run.  It's pretty common for old school, brick-and-mortar casino owners to try to jump into the online world without really getting how different it is.  Running the online side takes a whole new skillset - everything from cybersecurity stuff to making sure the user experience is good. 

Then there's just getting people to trust you.  Some casinos might have nailed that cozy, personal vibe in person but just haven't figured out how to make customers feel that same level of confidence online and  its like they haven't closed that trust gap yet from the real world to the virtual one.   

And at the end of the day it's a lot easier to pull shady stuff online than in a real life where I'd assume theres way stricter oversight and regulations in place.
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