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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?


It is possible and it is possible that one version is more reputable than the others, the rule is very different between online and offline versions, it is hard to cheat offline and you cannot accuse one player offline of having multiple accounts, whereas online can do it and casino can get away with it, its easier to cash out on offline casino than its online version if you are denied payment you can call the authorities, charge them and have their operations stopped right away, whereas on online there are so many steps you have to take before you can stop the operation because of the difference on jurisdiction.
There are really those notable differences on which it would really be just that so normal that you could really be able to point out in speaking about offline and online on which it would really be that understandable.
There are really some advantages and there are disadvantages but of course it would really be that just that depending on which one you would really be that choosing. When it comes to choices then it would really be that entirely be depending on you on which you would really be that tending to deal with. For me then i would prefer on playing on physical yet the ambiance would be entirely be different.
This is why people would really be those people who are really that loves on dealing up with gambling sites physically rather than on going online but when it comes to accessibility
then online things would really be that good. For similar names then we cant really be able to tell even if they would be having the same names and if there's one then
we do make out some research first.
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In addition to that, online casinos offer a lot of bonuses compared to physical casinos that don't have them. But in a physical casino, you must bring a large amount of money, while in an online casino, even a small amount is fine.
Offline casinos can offer you bonus if you are their good customer. But you are still not wrong becuase online casinos have more bonuses, especially the first time register and deposit bonus, I do not think that is available on offline casinos. But there are some bonuses on offline casinos like rakeback and some others. Offline casinos is fun and better to be than online casinos which can be boring and more addicting.
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No idea about Betking, but 1xbet(Online) is definitely a scam site which coordinates with other scam sites like 1xbit, Melbet etc operating out of Russia based on information obtained from various trustworthy sources.

Never heard of 1xbet(Offline) though, but I would steer clear of anything remotely similar to those scam sites op.
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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?


It is possible and it is possible that one version is more reputable than the others, the rule is very different between online and offline versions, it is hard to cheat offline and you cannot accuse one player offline of having multiple accounts, whereas online can do it and casino can get away with it, its easier to cash out on offline casino than its online version if you are denied payment you can call the authorities, charge them and have their operations stopped right away, whereas on online there are so many steps you have to take before you can stop the operation because of the difference on jurisdiction.
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       -   Literally speaking, they are not the same; the location is far away because online, you can only gamble via the internet, while in a land-based casino, even without the internet, you can still gamble.

In addition to that, online casinos offer a lot of bonuses compared to physical casinos that don't have them. But in a physical casino, you must bring a large amount of money, while in an online casino, even a small amount is fine.
Even in physical casinos, you still have to make bet which is going to be staked online. Many of the physical casinos will have online version for those that would not be interested going to bet in a Casino. They may want there privacy which is something that is very important for our individual selves. Those of us that are always betting in a physical casinos, there is always a difference between betting online and in a casino where our games can be staked which is the same process with those that bet online. All works if we enjoy any of the two method to stake games and bet.
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I guess it is not the same people that are managing them because I know that Betking.com is a good casino down here and it is been patronized by majority of gamblers. It might be that the online casino that ends up being scammers, opened the platform to purposely scam people or it is because of poor management that made then not be able to meet up with customers withdrawal. If you look at it from this angle, maybe because the offline casinos knows that they can't run away with gamblers funds since gamblers are seeing them face to dace and gamblers will do everything possible to make sure that their wins are paid. While the online casino can take advantage of their customers because they can't see them and can't reach them since they might not be in the same country with gamblers.
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       -   Literally speaking, they are not the same; the location is far away because online, you can only gamble via the internet, while in a land-based casino, even without the internet, you can still gamble.

In addition to that, online casinos offer a lot of bonuses compared to physical casinos that don't have them. But in a physical casino, you must bring a large amount of money, while in an online casino, even a small amount is fine.
Some times, i get confused  with what the really mean by online casinos and offline casinos, because as far as i relate, both mentioned casinos are run online what me i take asmeaningn online casinos is the fact that they casino is based on the internet, and not just casino that is run in physical, going further into the discussion also I discovered that what we can appropriately call online and offline should be a casino that accepts the cryptocurrency and those that only accepts fiat currency, so if we base our argument on that, we will likely get some and more ingredient to make up for a proper discussions and comparisons.
But the likelihood of the 1xbet to be the same as 1xbit is high and we may do well to categorize both casinos as one since they are similar in actions and operations.
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       -   Literally speaking, they are not the same; the location is far away because online, you can only gamble via the internet, while in a land-based casino, even without the internet, you can still gamble.

In addition to that, online casinos offer a lot of bonuses compared to physical casinos that don't have them. But in a physical casino, you must bring a large amount of money, while in an online casino, even a small amount is fine.
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Do you mean that the difference is only in reputation? Or do the odds on sports betting and the frequency of winnings in slots differ?
Of course, there is more trust in an offline office, because it is more difficult for them to refuse payment

I agree online you can just refuse payment and say that you have an alt account or multi-accounting and you're finished on offline games you have to be transparent because you are under close watch by the government regulator if you're going to charge someone with cheating you have to show proof and the gambler can ask for the government to mediate.

Its very different online, you literally have to beg for your winning when you won a big amount, unlike offline the government can validate your earning and they will demand payment from the offline casino, so if the online version is corrupt, they will have a hard time offline.
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For me, online and offline casinos will never be much different, if indeed offline casinos are much bigger than online casinos, it is clear that they cannot manage online casinos so their users often get into trouble. That's why people in your area may be more interested in playing at offline casinos, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that many online casinos are also good and have lots of users.

I beg to disagree to this. Online casino has less expenses than the offline casino that’s why RTP in online casino much higher since they don’t have much operating cost compared to offline casino that has a lot operational expenses from employees and the building itself. So they have big differences in terms of RTP and bonuses offer to players.

I never encounter a casino that has both online and offline here in my country since they might destroy their offline version since people will play online frequently due to convenience. They invest tons of money on the physical casino which is why online casino is not their typical option even during pandemic to maintain loyalty from their customers.
You are right based on the RTP analogy you used, completely agree with you.

Overall, in comparing both offline and online version of the same casino, there will always be imbalances, like, one version, maybe the offline version, or the online version, depending on the area where the offline version is, one will always do well than the other, and this may make the other version look like money invested in building it was a waste.

Like for example, over here in my country, it is actually of recent that I see that people have started playing on 1xbet online version mostly, not very many compared to the number of persons that still patronize this casino's offline version.
The only difference now is that, those who patronize the offline version of the casino are majorly sports bettors, people who are betting on sports.

But in the online version, customers have the opportunity of playing alot of casino and slot games, aside from betting on sports alone.
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I feel there are two issues that make this a bit different between an offline casino X platform and an online casino X platform.

1. Marketing strategies for each line should be different. Offline casinos deal with people face-to-face, while online ones have a broader market and don't meet people in person. Handling these situations should clearly be different, and the agents/employees running them should also be different. Reputation differences will naturally arise, given they are managed differently. Local interests will never be exactly the same as international interests online. That could be a reason why they differ in terms of reputation.

2. dirty competition. CEOs always strive to bring down their competitors, and the casino business falls into the realm of businesses that undermine each other (it could happen and is highly possible). An online gambling company might use the name of another offline gambling company for malicious purposes. Yes... they might intentionally provide poor service to tarnish the reputation of their competitor. It's as if these shady characters connect online and offline gambling platforms when, in reality, the offline casino hasn't released an online version at all. Competitors exploit this to damage other reputation.

Other possibilities could occur because every villain always has their own techniques to gain an advantage and never really cares about reputation.
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For me, online and offline casinos will never be much different, if indeed offline casinos are much bigger than online casinos, it is clear that they cannot manage online casinos so their users often get into trouble. That's why people in your area may be more interested in playing at offline casinos, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that many online casinos are also good and have lots of users.

I beg to disagree to this. Online casino has less expenses than the offline casino that’s why RTP in online casino much higher since they don’t have much operating cost compared to offline casino that has a lot operational expenses from employees and the building itself. So they have big differences in terms of RTP and bonuses offer to players.

I never encounter a casino that has both online and offline here in my country since they might destroy their offline version since people will play online frequently due to convenience. They invest tons of money on the physical casino which is why online casino is not their typical option even during pandemic to maintain loyalty from their customers.
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What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

I have never seen a casino which has its offline and online version but the casino gets different reputation between offline and online. Looking at the example you give especially 1xbet, do they have the offline version because you talk about different domain only. Assuming it is true that the local domain is official domain from 1xbet, how can you be sure that they are so reputable in your country? Is it because you know that most people in your country are betting in 1xbet or because it is the most popular one due its huge advertisement?
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If yes, then why is it that in terms of trust, they appear to be so different?

I will give you guys two examples.

My first example is 1xbet.com
   Over here in my country, we have a local domain for this casino which is known as either ng.1xbet.com or 1xbet.ng, I want to believe that the global domain is 1xbet.com.

Now, here is the thing, here in my country, we trust 1xbet to be one of the most reputable gambling and betting platform, Infact, there are hundreds of thousands of betting agents scattered all over the states in the country that are directly affiliated with this casino, and millions of gamblers all over the country patronize them.
1xbet is a very strange casino. It's known for everybody that they are scammers but they are super popular at the same time. They have private room in Evolution Gaming full of 1xbet tables with 1xbet background and they don't have only 1 private room, they have 2. They have some other tables too and there are so many Russian players playing all the time.

Have you checked that of the forum is 1xbit and not 1xbet though I don't know if they are both the same since I never used them before in the forum, then back to offline 1xbet I have I actually used it to gamble then and I don't see any issues with them my withdrawal and deposit was smooth without any bad records.
Open 1xbit.com and 1xbet.com side by side in your browser, you'll notice that both of them are using the same system. They both use Bet-B2B.com to manage their casinos but years ago 1xbet and bet-b2b had exactly the same color system on their websites that makes me think that bet-b2b and 1xbet are managed by the same team. Then you have 1xbit on bet-b2b's platform. Does anyone think that 1xbet and 1xbit will be managed by different people? And keep in mind that 1xbet and 1xbit had tables in Evolution next to each-other.
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This is another highly trusted betting and gambling casino in their offline version,
But coming back to their online version, they have the worst reputation in terms of trust, Infact, on this forum, Betking representative have alot of negative tags from highly reputable members of this forum, and we all are warned to stay away from playing on this casino.


What exactly, or why is offline and online version of the same casino sometimes different in terms of reputation/trust?
- Is possible that online and offline version are owned, and managed by two different persons?
- or is it that some casinos do not know how to manage their online version well to build trust?

Lets discuss this please.
Regarding the reputation of 1xbet Offline casino, it is measured based on the rating of people around and when playing there is no problem. Therefore, there is a positive value because it is believed that it can operate properly. But when it comes to online casinos, the reputation of this casino is bad/fraud and so on, it cannot stop other people's judgment of casinos that are run offline. That also applies to your local Betking offline casino. For example, if you convince people around you that Betking/1xbet (online) casino has committed fraud, they will definitely deny it because the involvement of online and offline operations is considered different. Starting from the way offline casinos work which can be seen, measured and witnessed. So accusing them will be very difficult. Betking/1xbet operating online involves many people and from different user groups so it will be difficult to convince people who play directly in offline casinos. This could be the reason that as long as playing at Betking/1xbet offline casino doesn't harm them, then they don't really care about what goes on behind online gambling. For me personally, these casinos operate online or offline, I would never touch them at all.
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I`ve seen several such offline casinos in my city. But it looks mostly like bookie`s office, but not like casino. If we are talking about trust - it is the same. And some old men still prefers offline bookie. Also we can KYC in the offline casino faster and sometimes, when they have some doubts it is the only way for KYC.
As for me - i don`t like them, it is more comfortable to gamble from home.
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For me, online and offline casinos will never be much different, if indeed offline casinos are much bigger than online casinos, it is clear that they cannot manage online casinos so their users often get into trouble. That's why people in your area may be more interested in playing at offline casinos, but it doesn't rule out the possibility that many online casinos are also good and have lots of users.

Moreover, if it is run by the same person, whether it is an offline or online casino, it is certain that what they do in an online casino must also be done in an offline casino, it's just that we can't see their reputation from online review sites, because of course they are more closed and not published. so in my opinion there is no difference, that's why I prefer to gamble at a casino that has a good reputation to avoid problems, especially complicated cases and we know that 1xbit is a fraudulent site that must be avoided
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Well, in the first place, online itself is dangerous and risky. Once you've connected to the internet and gone online, you are vulnerable. That's why many scammers are lingering on the internet, taking advantage of those who don't have or have little knowledge of navigating the internet. That's why even if an offline casino has an online version, you should always be careful, as many skilled scammers can duplicate a certain website, so it's easy for them to replicate an offline casino to attract victims. That's why it's important to do your own research, conduct an assessment, and read the terms and conditions.

Not all online versions of a casino are scams or not trusted; we just have to identify who is the trusted one, do double security before ingaging on a website, and if you notice an anomaly or there is negative feedback about that specific online casino, then better think again.
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Online experience is always different to offline experience, generally about all things, you can't expect the experience to be the same just because it's the same company, online has it's advantage already and that's why I become a gambler today, if there is no online casinos I will never visit any casino nearby to gamble, doing such thing in the public is not my way.

You can also start a business offline and it will fail over the years and bring the same business online and it will be way better, the thing about running a business is risk, you will never know what the result you will get will be like, not until you give it a trail and see what happens, this is why you will see some project will very good utilities that still fail.

Everything is risk, you won't know what you will get until you try, mind you, this casino you are talking about might not belong to the same person, just because they are sharing the same name doesn't mean it belongs to the same person, this days it's getting harder to form company names, that's why new projects are using...-... Between their names.

As we all believe that 1xbit or 1xbet is a scam on this forum, someone somewhere might decide to use this same name for his located casino offline and that wont stop the business from doing well.
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Could it be that you're confusing betking.com with betking.io?

I'm pretty sure betking.io was a casino that started with an ICO and is pretty notorious over here in bitcointalk for having many dissatisfied investors. There's a huge discussion about this in the thread you also linked in the OP.

So the Nigerian betking seems to be a successful casino in Nigeria but probably has nothing to do with the .io betking that's known in bitcointalk.
Im having ton the same thoughts on which they might really be just that similar on name but those domain names differences is really that noticeable or something that needs to watch out.
Nothing is confirmed for them to be on the same ownership not unless if there would really be some formal or official announcement that they are operating both offline and online
but if we cant really be able to see such thing then it is really that safe to assume that they are owned by different individuals. Names could really be named the same
but there would really be those slight letter differences or whatsoever. There might be similar on some time but making some in-depth research would be the key
if you are really trying to dig up something.
It's hard to say what and how exactly we can relate and connect both online and offline versions of the said casinos, even as it glaring from the domain names that there may be a likely connection even as it is not proven, it is very important to now ask for whatever evidence that can help us to unravel the truth between what connection and the how the lent of that connection could be.


It will take a whole load of time money to be able point out what are the level of the connections between the two casinos and if their are not discovered to be own by the same team then they deserve the same trust rating.

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