Topic: Gambling consulting for players (Read 515 times)

In my opinion, casinos only provide a lot of games, but they do not provide consultation for their players in matters that are beyond their benefit, but for consultation on the game problems that we are doing, it may exist because in any case the casino must be able to make players comfortable and with good service in dealing with problems that occur, it is one of the comfort factors for its customers. The purpose of the casino itself is to seek profit with the many people who play at the casino, with players who experience large losses of money, stress or depression in my opinion it is beyond the responsibility of the casino itself because the existence of these problems is caused by the actions of the players themselves who are too excessive in gambling, besides that basically the casino does not force players to gamble excessively.

Don't you suspect a foul play? This is the trick that most scam casinos come up with. By asking you terrible questions to make you begin to question yourself whether you should withdraw your funds or leave it there and run away because of the stress and unnecessary explanation, they are going to put you through.

Well, what will you do about this? Is it not to formulate any job you do and see their response? It will still be another additional question to be asked by then if I am to say. You better let go of the casino because they are fraudulent. They already show their mode of operation to scam their customers by asking them unexpected questions when they want to withdraw their funds

OP, is it possible to find out why casino has asked to provide source of wealth documents? And what kind of advice you want to get from assistance? I believe they have asked to provide bank statement for a specific period. I think you should try to convince them that if you provide such document, it wont help them a lot.

I will start afar. Recently I have made a term deposit to new bank, as they offered nice %. I have made a transaction from my main bank, but new bank asked me to provide bank statement from last 6 months. They also wanted to check origins of my funds. I have explained them 6 month statement wont help them to check origins of my funds, and if they really want to do check-up, they need my bank statement since account was opened. I have explained them, that I wasnt going to show them "all my expenses during all my life". Long story short, after a conversation, they have canceled their request for 6m statement. Maybe you should try to do the same with your casino?

I’m one of those who believe that believe gambling can be a hobby and not just for financial gain. I say this not because it is the popular thing to say but because I genuinely think so. We know why gambling sites ask for KYC data of their users. There are very few popular gambling sites that are KYC free. You can find those sites and other casinos that do not have very rigid regulations that users KYC.

If sure of that then it's better to do needful.
I think forum is mostly against that copying/paste from another site without including the reference like or originator source.

This is one problems with newly launched casino's they tends to make everything very possible for gamers and gamblers just to attracts their attention to keep gambling on that site, but when they began to grow gradually you would see them changing their ToS to favor them mostly than the gamers.

Do you read ToS before using a gambling (casino/betting) site? If yes, then you would know the reason why most casino include that to their ToS, i would also like to draw your attention that there are some casino/betting during sign up phase they would asked about your occupation and you select student or self employed, during your verification you would be asked about your income rate, ranging from A-D and if by gambling and they senses amount higher than what you selected during kyc then, surely they will request for additional information. I think this is where most people always put themselves at the tight corner so, it's important to always selects the required option and maximum range of income, while gambling if should the casino senses that from your end they wouldn't asked for additional details or even source of funds, just like what most people does that made some casino to request additional source of funds.

Comply with what the Casino asks, if for example the casino asks you to do a level 3 verification for example where you have to include a source of funds then do it maybe that's the only way you can withdraw your money from the casino.

But I don't know exactly what case you are in that you need a consultant to ask this question, is it this difficult or is there big money behind it?

We are only here to guess, and maybe the solution you want can be immediately fulfilled with the consultant you want.

I don’t think it is a case of plagiarism. I suspect he has some sort of partnership with the casino. I see they have a thread on the forum. I checked the posts on the thread and Dripstoil is very active on there and often uses “we” when replying comments on the thread like he is a representative of the casino. Also the casino link is on his profile which confirms his direct involvement with the casino.

The first thing you need to clarify is why you were asked to do that, are you trying to withdraw a big amount of money? Is that casino one that is widely known and it has a good reputation? Those two factors are really important, because if both of the answers to those questions are a no, then I do not see the point of complying with their request, since you could just move on and play in another casino that is not asking you to provide that information to them.

Indeed the use of the statement "gambling for fun" can be said to be misused if the gambler make huge deposits to his casino account and gamble until all is exhausted. Though what some person classify as huge sum could be a penny for some rich dudes. To the best of my knowledge,  gambling for fun is when the gambler makes deposits and gamble with small stakes, not with the intention of becoming rich of the gambling outcome, but to catch some fun especially when you do it with friends or family. Its not the joy of any gambler to experience  severe loss from his deposits and this is where the topic of having fun while lossing comes in. It takes decipline  for one to have patience and gamble responsibly, while gambling the urge of increasing your stake or gamble more is always  present in our thoughts, it take only decipline to gamble without getting addicted.

It seems you usually deposit and withdraw high amounts with the casino for them to request for source of wealth documents from you. Some regulated casinos usually request for this to be sure they are not aiding criminal activities in their casino. If you are not sure of the reputation of the casino you are using, it is best you ignore them before you land yourself in a big mess.

I do not like the idea of submitting my financial information online and to total strangers I do not trust. You might be a potential target if the casino turns out to be fake or the casino's security is breached. In addition, submitting a source of wealth document will put more attention on your account as the casino will want to monitor virtually all your gambling activities with them. I would rather go for any casino that would not put my privacy at risks.

You can post all the questions here so that you can get an answer from different member that has knowledge about casino requirements for KYC.

A source of wealth usually means your account is on high level of verification probably involved AML. A typical source of wealth is your job pay slip, statement of account from your bank and investment records. Anything that gives you your wealth but most of the time bank SOA is already enough unless you are accused for a serious violation.

What casino you are experiencing this?

There are well known casinos that ask you to proof of income or whatever. You shouldn't give advice unless you know for sure what you are talking about. I disagree with having to show bank documents or whatever, but apparently it's a normal thing in the casino world.

Source of wealth document are what is supposed to be requested for in banks or an investment company as a document to shows where you actually got the money you intended to either save in bank or invest in an investment company. However, you alone at O.P knows where you got your money from, because I'm pretty sure for this casino to have requested for a Proof of Source of Wealth document, it's likely the amount must be huge, because such documents aren't requested for small amounts.  So a salary pay cheque could be a Source of Wealth document, and likewise a receipt for a sold item can also be a proof of source of wealth document.

We are not experts on gambling cases but what you have now could or have been experienced by gamblers here because we are all gamblers, and we are on the same boat when it comes to KYC and proof of income, so its better that you complete all the details and be specific on what the problems and what's the name of the casino and what type of documents they are asking.
I asked the name of the casino and the specific documents because there's a possibility that if the casino you're playing is popular in the community, there's a possibility that some of us here encountered the same issues from the casino you're playing, so they can guide you on how to proceed.

Customer convenience is something that all casinos definitely do and strive for, but with casinos that make unnecessary requests such as documents of source of wealth I think that's too much, besides is there really a casino that asks its customers to provide these documents? I think that can make customers feel uncomfortable or even uncomfortable, and that can make their casinos deserted of customers. Except with KYC I think that's still a reasonable thing.
You're right, maybe something like this is more towards fraud, so now with the many casinos that we can visit we have to be smart in choosing a casino, make sure the casino has a good reputation and doesn't ask things that don't seem to make sense like other general casinos. We have to be more careful, because of course we don't want to have problems.

I don't really understand what you are referring to, but it seems like the gambling platform you are using implements KYC and indeed, in the KYC format will be asked toupload documents about the source of wealth as well. But on the other hand, you asked about companies or people who offer advice and/or assistance in gambling and I think,it exists and you can pay them for advice or maybe even betting options that you can choose for betting. But the point is, I personally don't use their services to bet but if it's about the source of wealth document,I believe it's part of the KYC that requires you  to upload somedocuments in that gambling platform.

If too much request to require submitting a source of wealth documents, leave the casino and play in another better casino and has proven his trust because every player wants to get a comfortable playing experience.
I want to say that the direction is similar to fraud, I'm afraid that I am wrong, but such case habits are more directed to fraud.

I don't think it well help you much because they're only answering based on their or other people experience, but they don't have bargaining power to force the casino to change/lower the requirement that asked by the casino.

I guess it's better for you to create accusation against the casino, it will pressure the casino if they're on this forum.

I don't think there's someone to consult but the casino itself. You've probably triggered their security system and asked for further verification. I've read that you've already completed  KYC, which is frustrating to see that they're asking for source of funds. Have you been depositing large amounts of money in short time intervals? Which casino is it? I haven't heard of any confirmed cases of a casino asking for source of funds.

I love this last reply and it insists that source of wealth shouldn't be an issue for a potential gambler wanting to patronize a gambling centre or site. Its not as if gambling sites are a means for money launderers to launder their funds, because whether we like to accept or not, the gambling site or centre has much percentage to win from any bet a player plays and with every statistics, the gambling site wins more than the user or player could ever win, so why such demand for source of wealth documentation?
Not every job or work we do, has a salary structure that also has bank statements and that is a fact that remains to be seen.