Topic: Gambling consulting for players (Read 152 times)

What sort of amounts are you talking about? A few hundred dollars or $500k? If it's a few hundred then you're better off just trying to research the information online yourself and determine the best course of action, if they don't accept your answers then you might have to write off the debt or you could raise a scam accusation here and you might be able to get your deposit amount back. If it's much larger numbers then you probably want to consult both a lawyer in your local jurisdiction and one that specializes in the jurisdiction of the casino. You should also probably ignore their license location and focus on where they are actually headquartered, as you may have better luck pursuing action that way.

Source of wealth? Even I know casinos usually ask for the source of funds not wealth.

You are stuck in that casino with a lot of money in it so the casino is asking for this document? What are the things the casino is asking for? And usually the source of funds is from the bank statement.

I don't know about gambling consultants, and this is the first time a gambler has asked this.

If you personally don't have any problem then you can do it. But I don't think it is good to share one's financial status anywhere and especially on gambling sites it should not be done in any way. Because gambling sites are very risky. When you share your financial status here, they can attack you in various ways if they sell it on the black market.  It can be cyber attack or physical attack.  So think them through and then decide

What is your source node wealth witn a casino? I don't think that casino is a legit one and I advise you to leave that casino because they will lure your to send them or deposit a specific amount to gamble and one you deposit there will be one problem to another until you money will get lost.
So the best way is to just leave. There is no way a legit casino will ask your for such document.

Unfortunately, he has funds on the casino, and won't forfeit them, but casinos mainly ask those living with addiction for such documents, to be sure of how they generate their money. Op's situation may be different, based on the casino's policy, which requires more clarifications, as it's uncommon, except the players has been acting compulsive lately. However he'd need to complain on forums like https://forum.askgamblers.com/forum/40-casino-rep-corner/ where most casino reps assist in similar cases.

I haven't seen a service which helps guide someone to pass identity and proof of funds verification on a casino. You can privately reach out to experienced gamblers, some of which you can find on this forum.

There will be legal representatives with experience in this area, but that will be an expensive and time consuming approach and if you're not looking to take legal action on the casino it will not be very helpful for the cost.
If you're willing to contact someone on the forum, I can recommend one or two members.

They may have to ask it if their legal auditor and internal AML they may have at their site insists on some individuals that play a huge amount of money which most people who gamble has no access to that amount of money. In most cases I have seen people being highest rank in their VIP levels and having not such problems so that casino may have some internal auditor pointing out flaws and verifying a few individuals may be a step for the casino to comply to that internal audition from the entity that audits them. Most casinos though have licenses in Curacao and in that entity it is easy to bypass such verification. For sure asking a company to help you is the best way to move it forward, not in a casino but in Cex.io exchange the support team was so dumb and idiots that they asked me what is your email for your Bitcoin wallet not having a clue about how desktop software wallet works as I had told them I use Electrum as wallet before, I am sure the support team of any casino is not that dumb.

Gambling sites require KYC data or wealth documents from users for anti-money laundering or AML policies to obtain various types of licenses. But if you use gambling only for fun then use sites that allow you to gamble KYC free up to a certain amount. Because submitting your personal documents and asset documents to casino sites is very risky.  So try to avoid them. But if you are addicted to gambling and gamble a lot, you have to accept and submit them, you cannot avoid them.

You should name the casino and what what specific wealth of documents are asking. The casino usually asks for source of income and proof of income,, not titles of your lots or registrations of cars. I'm just assuming that they are asking for something similar to this.
That's unusual for a casino to ask for that information. Yes, they can ask for KYC because they abide on AMC guidelines but they are only limited to what they can ask because they are not the AMLAC.

This is done to ensure that the casino is not allowing money laundering. All the players when deposit a significant amount in the casino, the casino’s security system gets alerted. Hence, they manually now ask you to prove your source of income or wealth. If you don’t like to provide the KYC details, then you need to find casinos that don’t ask for KYC. I am sure if you do plenty of research, then you will definitely find good and trustworthy KYC-free casinos. Now regarding the consulting, then I am not sure if there are any professionals present, but yes, many people here in the forum can give you free advice and suggestions.

With your post I begin to understand that the real problem you have is that you did KYC and some time later the casino asked you to show the source of funds and you are not able to show proof of the funds. So you want to know if there is a website, company or person that can help you solve this dispute that exists between you and the casino. If you want a mediator for a conflict between a casino and a client, you can use this website:

https://casino.guru/complaints/all

but you can only complain on that site if the casino you deposited money into is listed on that site

You can also complain in this section of the forum

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0

In both links, you should tell the whole story and post proof. But they will not produce any proof of funds document for you, because that would be wrong. You need to show proof of funds to the casino, and it must be from a genuine source.

In this case, you do not need a consulting firm or any third party if you are not able to prove the source of the deposit funds, especially if you intend to withdraw a large amount. Any third party consultant will not be able to provide you with support in this case or if the casino is planning to scam your winnings in any available way.

Personally, this is the first time I have come across a case where the source of the deposit funds was asked, and I expected that this could only be done through questioning by the legal authorities, otherwise there would be no good reason for the casino to suspect the source of your funds.

My advice to you is to tell us the name of the casino and if you are one of the lucky ones, it may be one of the casinos that has a representation here on the forum so that we can communicate with the team. This will make it easier for us to verify the reputation of the casino and know the type of evidence required. In general, it would be better if you were able to provide clear evidence of the source of your funds because there is not much that can be done.

This is a normal thing with most casinos as they do this during their KYC process to ensure your money is clean and do not come from forbidden practices. What you should do is to simply declare your source of money accurately; if you are employed you state it or if you are running your private business you also state it. Some casinos go as far as asking you the range of your annual income so you should do well to give a close estimate that will give them a picture of the kind of customer they are on barding.

If you read my message carefully, it clearly says that I need help/advice on how to act better. Not that I need documents.
KYC and source of wealth (SOW) are two different things. Before speaking, inform yourself. It is not me who uses the term wealth, but it is the name of this document.

I have already completed the KYC procedure a long time ago. What I wanted to ask is if there are companies/people experienced in gambling platforms, who help and give support regarding gambling cases

It's normal for a casino to ask for a KYC from a player, especially if the amount you won with them is something you will release.

Of course they don't want to happen to use their platform in an illegal transaction, you know what that means.
Now if wealth of documentation looks like you won the  big winning amount dude, right? All I can give you is that you will be transparent.

Why not save yourself the stress of going through a third party organization of website whereby they will have to charge you on any service rendered, its still the same thing that if asked from this forum, some of our experienced members in gambling will support you with the necessary response regarding your question, i think this is more of a kyc related challenges which they may seek for your proof of fund, though not all gambling can request for that in their kyc requirements.

When you say something like this, do you mean you need someone to submit KYC for you or produce documents to prove where your money came from?    You may never see those services here.

If it's a reputable casino asking those KYC I guess it's safe to do it. Just come clean   But depends on how much you have in your account but seeing the term you use is "WEALTH" looks like your loaded. 

I don't know when a casino company has now become a banking platform to ask about the source of wealth for someone who registered on their platforms, it's very awkward to me except if someone has laundered a huge amount of money in their account and not using it to stake bets but yet it is never the duty of a casino company to ask about one's source of wealth, perhaps the information they got from the KYC documents should be enough. A casino company asking about the source of wealth from their customers is not a fight against money laundering to me. There are people who made huge amount of money from gambling and they have devoted their time to gambling such that they sees it as their own source of income even though winnings are not guaranteed always so if such a gambler decides to move their funds to other casino company and continue gambling does it require them to declare their source of wealth? I can't even be comfortable with a casino company asking too much about my personal details, i'll rather disregard such casino company than risking further information apart from the ones i gave in my KYC verification.


This is exactly the problems with most casino sites now, they won't ask you for this information on registering and making deposits on their platforms but when it comes to withdrawal that's when they will begin to check all their ToS and some golden rules that does not exist. Even if they are to ask for source of wealth shouldn't it be when large deposits are being made instead of withdrawals? SMH!

You don't have to pay a fee here. Just post the updates here and you'd see replies from most people here that will give you some good advice for
free.

Is there any problem proceeding with the KYC? Don't you have to documents to support your financial capacity or you can't show any proof of your source of funds and income?

What is the name of the casino? I asked the question for us to know if the casino is legit or not. If the casino is asking you for money again without able to withdraw, it can likely be a scam casinos.

If you have answered that question and the casino is legit, all you need is proof of income or something related to it like bank statement of account.