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Quote from: rachael9385 on October 12, 2024, 09:47:31 AM

Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Are you sure that this was what the casino asked from you? Besides I don't think it's possible for casino to ask for a wealth document from their customers, or is the casino a scam? KYC casinos always asked for KYC's but they gives an options either to use your passport or ID, so you can chose the ones the one suitable for you because given out your information to an online company isn't that advisable.
I think the best thing for you to do right now is to block the casino account and focus on a reliable casino that have a good reputation.

Check the first reply in this thread it was from a casino representative ( not the one the op is using though) and he confirmed that casinos asking for source of wealth is a thing and not just made up to chase players away and also I have seen someone else ask about the same thing - I can’t recall the thread or how they went about but the casino sure asked them to submit the source of wealth but the only difference with this one was that he was making use of crypto deposits so it became an issue for him to provide them with that information.

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Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Run away. There are too many casinos that won't ask you to do that, which looks like a scam. In a bank it's reasonable, but not in a casino.

It's not a sign of a scam, and in casinos, it is usual to ask for proof of funds, which is, in other words source of wealth. This is to make sure that there is no laundering involved with the user's funds most probably asked to someone who deposit and withdraw too often with very less wagering just about meeting the wagering requirements to get off the withdrawal of deposited funds and if that's the case the funds has something to do with and definitely need to be investigated.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

Are you sure that this was what the casino asked from you? Besides I don't think it's possible for casino to ask for a wealth document from their customers, or is the casino a scam? KYC casinos always asked for KYC's but they gives an options either to use your passport or ID, so you can chose the one suitable for you. Because given out your information to an online company isn't that advisable.
I think the best thing for you to do right now is to block the casino account and focus on a reliable casino that have a good reputation, so that you will not end up share your personal (identity) informations to the wrong casino.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Gambling sites require KYC data or wealth documents from users for anti-money laundering or AML policies to obtain various types of licenses. But if you use gambling only for fun then use sites that allow you to gamble KYC free up to a certain amount. Because submitting your personal documents and asset documents to casino sites is very risky. So try to avoid them. But if you are addicted to gambling and gamble a lot, you have to accept and submit them, you cannot avoid them.

that is were gambling foe fun statement for is not accurate with some people. You can't say gambling is for fun when you do KYC and other documentations. I have said this many times. You can't say gambling is for fun when you deposited good amount of money and play games. Many that are saying that gambling is for fun are not even gamblers but because they are seeing others saying it and they follow up to say it without knowing why gambling is for fun. If anyone want to gamble for then he has to visit a casino which offers free games without deposit. And once a gambler deposit, he would like to have profit from the game. And I think others have also said this which I have seen.

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Quote from: aioc on October 11, 2024, 12:40:22 PM

You should name the casino and what what specific wealth of documents are asking. The casino usually asks for source of income and proof of income,, not titles of your lots or registrations of cars. I'm just assuming that they are asking for something similar to this.
That's unusual for a casino to ask for that information. Yes, they can ask for KYC because they abide on AMC guidelines but they are only limited to what they can ask because they are not the AMLAC.

It can have multiple names but the thing is the same, you can call it a source of income, source of wealth, source of funds, etc. And, I don't see anything odd in a casino platform or any other centralized financial platform to ask for your source of income, what's odd is they didn't ask for it at the time of making a deposit or doing KYC. Generally, a platform is supposed to confirm the source when a user is trying to deposit a large amount, only to make sure that the funds are coming from a legal source.

@OP, I don't know if you need consultancy, they have made it clear about what they want from you before you can withdraw your funds, so I guess you don't really have a choice because a firm will only charge you to give you the same advice, they are not going to contact the casino to exempt you from it.

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Quote from: ajiz138 on October 11, 2024, 03:58:25 PM

Source of wealth? Even I know casinos usually ask for the source of funds not wealth.

Funds and wealth are the same maybe he was mistaken the two words but its possible for a casino to use wealth even though we know that the common phrase is source of funds.

Quote from: ajiz138 on October 11, 2024, 03:58:25 PM

You are stuck in that casino with a lot of money in it so the casino is asking for this document? What are the things the casino is asking for? And usually the source of funds is from the bank statement.

For the few times I have seen such question, it is usually asked during registration and not for old users. If he has a large amount of money in the casino, that will likely be winnings of which the casino cannot ask for the source.

Quote from: ajiz138 on October 11, 2024, 03:58:25 PM

I don't know about gambling consultants, and this is the first time a gambler has asked this.

The title of the thread is a little bit odd when you marry it with the body. First I thought he was posting as an expert that is looking for gamblers to coach. I never knew he was actually the one making the consultation in the forum.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:54:38 AM

Quote from: Don Pedro Dinero on October 11, 2024, 08:43:52 AM

Run away. There are too many casinos that won't ask you to do that, which looks like a scam. In a bank it's reasonable, but not in a casino.

The problem is that I have money to withdraw

haha. What kind of casino is that? Lol ,after all they will ask for something that really against for data privacy? For sure i have encountered some of these situation way back 2018 if i remember it correctly. Cheesy

Coz there's someone sent me a message and he gave me a bunos after signing up on some website i found on telegram group,then after winning that site is asking me for something that for me smell really fishy . Lol so i run away and if i we're you be careful.

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Quote from: leonair on October 11, 2024, 03:40:37 PM

Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

If you personally don't have any problem then you can do it. But I don't think it is good to share one's financial status anywhere and especially on gambling sites it should not be done in any way. Because gambling sites are very risky. When you share your financial status here, they can attack you in various ways if they sell it on the black market. It can be cyber attack or physical attack. So think them through and then decide

I have been listening from the beginning, but OP has not answered the name of the gambling site that asked for private personal documents. If it is KYC, I think it is reasonable, but if you want to know the bank account and so on, OP you should actually be suspicious of a platform like this.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Firstly I would like to know, was that a KYC requirement, did you read and agreed to their terms before signing up on the platform? If you did and you see that this document they are asking for was and is not part of their terms just in case they would want to claim they have updated their terms, you can proceed to make a complaint with the regulatory body in charge of such matters in your region, cause I'm guessing there should be one who handles such, but to save you stress, if it's part of KYC requirement, you may have to share but be mindful not to give really vital information while you do, personally everything about this is really fishy from both ends away from all that I have mentioned.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents.

I am not aware that such thing could be asked of by a casino. Because casinos shouldn't be the one to ask about such information since it is not important.

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I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.

I don't know any but if the casino is in your country, you should look for legal assistance from your country and if the casino is not in your country, it is better that you avoid them and use another casino because your source of wealth documents should be known by only the government or bank.

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Bookkeepers are your friends. They're generally people who help you manage documents related to taxes, finances, etc. They should be able to help (and answer) any inquiries you have whenever a casino asks you something as long as they have your info. Though I don't think you need to go that far, it's just a source of wealth. Pretty sure a bank statement is more than enough and should satisfy the casino. Unless there are some other sources then just use that instead.

If you really don't know jack, then yeah, look up bookkeepers. With the abundance of VAs, pretty sure you can get one pretty cheaply. Would rather find a local one though just so that they know the local tax rules of your country.

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What casino is it? If you share the name of the company it could become easier for another gamblers to help you if he has already faced the same situation when playing there. The professional you are looking for is an accountant or maybe an attorney who has knowledge over the legal aspects of providing personal documents to online platforms. To try looking for online forums focused on those fields of work may also be a worthy idea.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 10:54:47 AM

If you read my message carefully, it clearly says that I need help/advice on how to act better. Not that I need documents.
KYC and source of wealth (SOW) are two different things. Before speaking, inform yourself. It is not me who uses the term wealth, but it is the name of this document.

I have already completed the KYC procedure a long time ago. What I wanted to ask is if there are companies/people experienced in gambling platforms, who help and give support regarding gambling cases

Why do you need someone to proceed? Are you afraid that your information about the "source of wealth" will be used for dirty things? I have also been asked about the source of income but it's not gambling, it's a local cryptocurrency exchange that does it annually like an update. I don't mind giving them the information because I know they are a reputable company name.

Now I think that's the question that you need some answers. Is that gambling site reputable enough that your information about your "source of wealth" will be safe? There will be people who can help you with this but I think they will just suggest the same thing which is to pass that information so you can pull out your money and just don't come back if ever you are doubting the online casino.
Be careful with who you will deal though, they might make a contract about getting 10-20 percent of your total balance which I think is robbery.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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If they're asking for source of income documents then share your source of income with them as there's nothing wrong in that. Those documents are often asked for AML purpose and they won't be harmful for someone whose source of income is genuine and there's no money laundering involved in it.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 10:54:47 AM

If you read my message carefully, it clearly says that I need help/advice on how to act better. Not that I need documents.
KYC and source of wealth (SOW) are two different things. Before speaking, inform yourself. It is not me who uses the term wealth, but it is the name of this document.

I have already completed the KYC procedure a long time ago.

Do it as is.

Don't act weirdly and don't be too vocal about it when the verification happens. Just provide what's being asked to you and everything is going to go smoothly.

Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 10:54:47 AM

What I wanted to ask is if there are companies/people experienced in gambling platforms, who help and give support regarding gambling cases

I don't have an idea if there's specific service that helps on this one but if it's about disputes and claims, askgamblers is the one to help.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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Actually, I have never heard of any legal agency or company which offers such services to guide gamblers when casinos ask for very specific documentation like those papers you are being asked for. I believe, you don't have anything to hide about your income, you should go for it if the casino is a reliable one and one with a very good track record within the industry. If you want to have some professional assistance on whether you should or not to submit such information to the casino perhaps it would be more appropriate if you hired some lawyer with experience dealing with gambling services.
That is the only idea which comes to my mind.

I hope you have good luck and you do not find further inconveniences.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 10:54:47 AM

I have already completed the KYC procedure a long time ago. What I wanted to ask is if there are companies/people experienced in gambling platforms, who help and give support regarding gambling cases

Well, first you should know that if your deposits are significant, then it’s pretty common for crypto casinos to request source of wealth documents, especially as part of their license rules. There are many companies and professionals who offer advice and assistance to you on how to handle these kinds of cases and requests. However, if you can explain to us more about your case, the casino you are dealing with, and if you can easily provide your source of income, then we all can help you right from here without any need to pay someone for things you can find for free.

Moreover, I believe the source of wealth is also a proof of your income, such as your job salary, investments or if you own property. I might be wrong, but if the casino doesn’t accept what I mentioned as income proofs, then definitely the casino is so shady or let’s say a scam.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
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What sort of amounts are you talking about? A few hundred dollars or $500k? If it's a few hundred then you're better off just trying to research the information online yourself and determine the best course of action, if they don't accept your answers then you might have to write off the debt or you could raise a scam accusation here and you might be able to get your deposit amount back. If it's much larger numbers then you probably want to consult both a lawyer in your local jurisdiction and one that specializes in the jurisdiction of the casino. You should also probably ignore their license location and focus on where they are actually headquartered, as you may have better luck pursuing action that way.

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Source of wealth? Even I know casinos usually ask for the source of funds not wealth.

You are stuck in that casino with a lot of money in it so the casino is asking for this document? What are the things the casino is asking for? And usually the source of funds is from the bank statement.

I don't know about gambling consultants, and this is the first time a gambler has asked this.

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Quote from: ? on October 11, 2024, 08:09:00 AM

Hello. Recently an online casino asked me source of wealth documents, I wanted to ask if there are companies/people that offer advice & assistance to gambling players, even paying a fee. Because I have questions about it and how to proceed correctly.
Thanks

If you personally don't have any problem then you can do it. But I don't think it is good to share one's financial status anywhere and especially on gambling sites it should not be done in any way. Because gambling sites are very risky. When you share your financial status here, they can attack you in various ways if they sell it on the black market. It can be cyber attack or physical attack. So think them through and then decide

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