Gambling discussion board needs a child board?

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Quote from: Dunamisx on January 21, 2023, 05:43:49 AM

I also don't see a need to segmenting a child board for gambling since it has already been into two categories namely the general gambling and the gambling discussion of which any reasonable user should understand the difference between the two and what category of discussion they both constitute, giving it a child board will only give chance to posting less quality on a particular childboard and may encourage spamming since a particular topic could be discussed together inline with other ones on the same board but different threads than creating childboards

How come having a child board will encourage spam? I don't understand exactly this point. Categorizing topics will open room for more ideas from different category that is not being noticed due to the dominance of sports thread. This is still the same because spammers are just using sports threads to spam nonsense posts. Having a child board can make those shit posts easy to spot compared to reading a hundred-pager sports thread.

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Quote from: Eternad on January 20, 2023, 10:28:46 AM

I believe adding a child board namely Slot, Table Games, Sports Betting and other gambling types will make the discussion on that board more organized and easy to distinguish for all the gamblers.

There are over 150 pages of threads in that sub-board. If new child boards were added, mods would need to move all the old threads to the appropriate places and not just require that new discussions be created in the correct subs. I don't see that happening.

Mods can make the current gambling discussion board as Archival and let those active threads move individually by the OP of the thread to make the process of migration smooth. Let those dead threads rest on archival and we can start fresh since this time we have a new category for discussion, not a general gambling discussion.

Locking this thread now to avoid repetitive comments. I already get what I really want which is a response from mods. Thanks everyone.

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Quote from: Eternad on January 20, 2023, 10:28:46 AM

I believe adding a child board namely Slot, Table Games, Sports Betting and other gambling types will make the discussion on that board more organized and easy to distinguish for all the gamblers.

There are over 150 pages of threads in that sub-board. If new child boards were added, mods would need to move all the old threads to the appropriate places and not just require that new discussions be created in the correct subs. I don't see that happening.

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I also don't see a need to segmenting a child board for gambling since it has already been into two categories namely the general gambling and the gambling discussion of which any reasonable user should understand the difference between the two and what category of discussion they both constitute, giving it a child board will only give chance to posting less quality on a particular childboard and may encourage spamming since a particular topic could be discussed together inline with other ones on the same board but different threads than creating childboards

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 20, 2023, 10:33:45 AM

Can you give me 10 high quality topic discussions about gambling discussion should be?

I don't think topic like: "guide how to prevent from gambling addiction", " step how to know if we''re an addicts", "history x game", " how to become a good gambler" etc that's just a generic topics and it's repeated over and over.

I disagree with your idea.

If you read completely the main request here then you should not be posting this comment. I'm asking to categorise gambling discussion into 3 child boards which is for slot, sports betting( which includes all the sports discussion on the screenshot) and table games(card games, craps, roulette & etc). I'm not suggesting having a child board for the generic topic. I already bold the part that the main point of this discussion. Adding this will not hurt, doesn't it?

Quote from: Eternad on January 20, 2023, 10:28:46 AM

I believe adding a child board namely Slot, Table Games, Sports Betting and other gambling types will make the discussion on that board more organized and easy to distinguish for all the gamblers. Gambling discussion board is already flooded due to signature campaign requirements. What do you think about this suggestion?

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 20, 2023, 12:23:50 PM

There's hardly any threads on slots or table games etc so those aren't really needed. I agree it's become more of a general sports discussion sub though. We could just get strict and go back to basics and say if it doesn't involve bitcoin somewhere then it doesn't belong in there but something tells me people will find a way to squeeze in a mention of bitcoin in any which way they can.

There are hardly any threads on slots or table games etc so those aren't really needed. I agree it's become more of a general sports discussion sub though. We could just get strict and go back to basics and say if it doesn't involve bitcoin somewhere then it doesn't belong in there but something tells me people will find a way to squeeze in a mention of bitcoin in any which way they can.

Here's the list of some good topics for slot created by @Mu_enrico:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/slots-104-fishing-gamearcade-like-slots-but-more-action-5385667
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/slots-multiplier-master-race-animation-statistics-5383296
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/slots-101-basics-strategies-and-discussion-with-poll-5249415
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/slots-102-the-provably-fair-slots-with-poll-5262052

This kind of discussion and topic on slot can be expanded if it's not being flooded easily. Same with table games like poker, blackjack, craps, roulette and many more. I believe adding this kind of child board can easily filter out those non-sense generic topics. By doing this child board it will be easier to find the discussion that new users want to read topics on the specific game that they want.

Thanks for answering on this thread sir!

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 21, 2023, 02:33:23 AM

Quote from: Ucy on January 21, 2023, 01:48:44 AM

The whole Gambling Section should be a child Board of Betting & Prediction.

It should flow in the manner below:

   * Low-risk Betting > Event
   betting, Sport betting, etc
   * Betting discussion

Betting & Prediction >

   * High-risk Betting (Gambling)
   > Event gambling, Sport gambling,
   etc
   * Gambling discussion

Honestly I don't understand how you can think betting and gambling are different because for me it's same.

There's no such low risk and high risk betting, maybe some people will say sport betting is safer and low risk rather than slot where you can't control the bet. But if there's an event where the odds for favorited team or figher is 1.01x, it mean the odds of the opponent is really high and seems like have 0% to pull an upset. If you bet on the huge underdog, it's a high risk betting despite it's sport betting (low risk).

Gambling is gambling, you have a chance to lose even you gamble with 1.01x odds.

Well, the issues listed by Op could easily be resolved if the topics are moved to where they belong. And i created those sections after considering where most and mine will fit perfectly.

I actually bet and predict things but never used money to do them and I wonder If any could show me where I have been wrong in my predictions. So the risk for me and others like me is actually very low due to the fact I don't stake money or bet carelessly. So no one has the right to call me a gambler even though I predict/bet on things.

The Gambling Section makes things clear for you:

Gambling
Gambling and all "investments" that are so risky they might as well be gambling (HYIPs, pyramid schemes, etc.

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Quote from: Ucy on January 21, 2023, 01:48:44 AM

The whole Gambling Section should be a child Board of Betting & Prediction.

It should flow in the manner below:

   * Low-risk Betting > Event
   betting, Sport betting, etc
      * Betting discussion

Betting & Prediction >

   * High-risk Betting (Gambling)
> Event gambling, Sport gambling,
etc
   * Gambling discussion

Honestly I don't understand how you can think betting and gambling are different because for me it's same.

There's no such low risk and high risk betting, maybe some people will say sport betting is safer and low risk rather than slot where you can't control the bet. But if there's an event where the odds for favorited team or figher is 1.01x, it mean the odds of the opponent is really high and seems like have 0% to pull an upset. If you bet on the huge underdog, it's a high risk betting despite it's sport betting (low risk).

Gambling is gambling, you have a chance to lose even you gamble with 1.01x odds.

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The whole Gambling Section should be a child Board of Betting & Prediction.

It should flow in the manner below:

   * Low-risk Betting > Event
   betting, Sport betting, etc
      * Betting discussion

Betting & Prediction >

   * High-risk Betting (Gambling)
> Event gambling, Sport gambling,
etc
   * Gambling discussion

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Quote from: UmerIdrees on January 20, 2023, 11:38:21 PM

If you do not like sports discussion threads, then the gambling discussion board is not for you. The only interesting thing for me in that board is the discussion on different sporting events. If we exclude/ignore these discussion threads we are left with just these spam threads as mentioned by hilariousetc .

Sporting thread is also full of spam since there's many people doesn't have any idea with the sport and there's no point they want to express. I don't think it's hard to find such user, maybe for 1-3 pages you will find at least one user who only have purpose to spam.

Most of spam post in sport thread:
"Arsenal is really strong, but Manchester United is also strong too, I believe Arsenal will win, [bla bla 150 character] but if Manchester United have more preparation, Manchester United will beat Arsenal"

Adding child board about slot/dice/table game will only increase people to spam, most of the spam post in slot thread:
"Gambling is not for making money because any casino always have house edge, but if you're really lucky you will make money, gambling is for fun [bla bla 150 character]"

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Quote from: FatFork on January 20, 2023, 03:18:46 PM

Most of the discussions about sports betting have their own dedicated threads, so I don't think it is necessary to create new child boards . If you don't want to see any more sports betting threads, simply mark them as ignored (which will make other gambling discussion threads stand out).

If you do not like sports discussion threads, then the gambling discussion board is not for you. The only interesting thing for me in that board is the discussion on different sporting events. If we exclude/ignore these discussion threads we are left with just these spam threads as mentioned by hilariousetc .

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 20, 2023, 12:23:50 PM

Does your wife/child/dog know you gamble. Do you gamble with your right hand or left? Have you ever gambled on the toilet? Have you ever gambled on an aeroplane? Have you ever gambled on the toilet of an aeroplane etc. I saw there's a thread in there for Miss Universe now.

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Quote from: Welsh on January 20, 2023, 02:20:02 PM

Quote from: mk4 on January 20, 2023, 01:56:34 PM

Is there anything to discuss concerning those dice/slot/table games anyway? Discussion concerning those stuff would likely end up being about specific platforms as far as I know — whereas we already have the Service Discussion section for this.

Not really. Sports betting makes sense since there's a ton of variables to discuss pretty much every week, but dice betting or even betting games against the house don't really change all that much. I imagine there would be a few threads about techniques, but that's about it. Hence, why I don't think we particularly need another section. If anything, you'd probably want to separate sports gambling discussion from gambling discussion, but again I don't think it's necessary.

Well yes that's exactly what I meant lol. Discussions about dice/slot/table would mostly be about how specific platforms conduct these games(odds, fees, etc), which fits decently in the Service Discussion section.

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Quote from: Eternad on January 20, 2023, 10:28:46 AM

I believe adding a child board namely Slot, Table Games, Sports Betting and other gambling types will make the discussion on that board more organized and easy to distinguish for all the gamblers. Gambling discussion board is already flooded due to signature campaign requirements. What do you think about this suggestion?

It will be a whole lot of child board there is this will be considered knowing there are lots of games, and its pretty useless imo. So far that board is fully controlled by the mods assigned there, i see lots of locked thread for some generic thread questions about games and etc.

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Quote from: Dr.Bitcoin_Strange on January 20, 2023, 04:10:27 PM

Some people don't know how to gamble, so perhaps if there should be any child's board under gambling, it should possibly be "Beginners and Help for Gambling," so that newbie gamblers can easily ask questions and get help from that child's board.

There is a simple solution for that: if you have issues with something gambling related, simply create a topic about it and people will help. Gambling is not a rocket science that needs a whole child board just for that.

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Gambling discussion board is far from being perfect, but adding new child board won't make it better. From what I noticed, most of topics not related with sports is just spam megathreads, sometimes with most stupid questions that you can make. Something like ''How to teach your dog/children/wife to gamble'' or ''what is right age to start gambling'' It's difficult to tell something new about gambling itself, what wasn't posted yet, so, people repeat same stuff. In topics dedicated to sports we have at least some discussion between users. And I wouldn't say that in these topics people talk just about sports, there is more than enough posts about betting on these leagues.

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Some people don't know how to gamble, so perhaps if there should be any child's board under gambling, it should possibly be "Beginners and Help for Gambling," so that newbie gamblers can easily ask questions and get help from that child's board. I think some newbies have difficulty in the gambling section, but any time they hit the gambling section of this forum, they should be able to find some help and guidance on good casinos to bet at. Just my OPn ✌️

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Most of the discussions about sports betting have their own dedicated threads, so I don't think it is necessary to create new child boards . If you don't want to see any more sports betting threads, simply mark them as ignored (which will make other gambling discussion threads stand out).

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Quote from: Eternad on January 20, 2023, 10:28:46 AM

Looking at the image below looks like the gambling discussion board is more on sports discussion rather than a gambling discussion instead. I don't frequently on sportsbook so I usually skip threads like these but the gambling discussion board is already full of this type of thread so there's no skipping here but a full ignore on the board.

As i see this, we have gambling board where there are ANN threads listed for different gambling sites. We can discuss all about the gambling games like slot, dice with respect to the site offering in each of those threads.
Under the gambling board we have three child boards namely Gambling discussion, Games and rounds and Investor-based games which fulfill the whole purpose of gambling.
The gambling discussion section contains mostly threads for discussion of different sports (as people usually bet on sports). I think we do not need any more child boards for gambling.

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Quote from: mk4 on January 20, 2023, 01:56:34 PM

Is there anything to discuss concerning those dice/slot/table games anyway? Discussion concerning those stuff would likely end up being about specific platforms as far as I know — whereas we already have the Service Discussion section for this.

Not really. Sports betting makes sense since there's a ton of variables to discuss pretty much every week, but dice betting or even betting games against the house don't really change all that much. I imagine there would be a few threads about techniques, but that's about it. Hence, why I don't think we particularly need another section. If anything, you'd probably want to separate sports gambling discussion from gambling discussion, but again I don't think it's necessary.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on January 20, 2023, 12:23:50 PM

Most of these get trashed or locked if reported. I'm getting tired of the really stupid ones though: Does your wife/child/dog know you gamble. Do you gamble with your right hand or left? Have you ever gambled on the toilet? Have you ever gambled on an aeroplane? Have you ever gambled on the toilet of an aeroplane etc. I saw there's a thread in there for Miss Universe now.

I literally look at every topics that posted in Gambling Discussion board. I have seen a lot of irrelevant topics such as the latter sentences you said.

So, I tried to get some of the redundant topics in Gambling Discussion from page 1 to 15. Though, they have different way but I think these topics are leading in 1 context.

Criteria of a good gambler

Responsible gambling

How to win gambling?

gambling techniques

My Unconventional Betting Strategy

Poker strategies

Don't get me wrong, those are good ideas. But as time goes by, I think the contexts are bit similar with each other.

Here is the thread that purely spamming:

gambling discussion

Imagine, A (Gambling Discussion) under Gambling Discussion board.

And lastly, Will you stop gamble if your girl friend insists ?

The thread is useless. I really don't care if your girlfriend will stop you in gambling. I have my own life.

Well, that's all I want to share.

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Is there anything to discuss concerning those dice/slot/table games anyway? Discussion concerning those stuff would likely end up being about specific platforms as far as I know — whereas we already have the Service Discussion section for this.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on January 20, 2023, 12:23:50 PM

Most of these get trashed or locked if reporting. I'm getting tired of the really stupid ones though: Does your wife/child/dog know you gamble. Do you gamble with your right hand or left? Have you ever gambled on the toilet? Have you ever gambled on an aeroplane? Have you ever gambled on the toilet of an aeroplane etc. I saw there's a thread in there for Miss Universe now.

My dog, wife and child none know I do gamble 😂
I am a right handy. when clicking I do use my right hand sometimes I use my toe of the right foot. What do you conclude LOL
Have you tried gambling when you are having orgasm 😜?
I am always busy flirting with the air hostage but I guess next time I will give it a go.

Most of them are signature spammers. I am guilty of it too, I try my best to reframe myself not looking too odd. When I visit the boards I barely see a topic where I can have a good discussion. No one cares for a discussion there.

Back to OP, I think first we need to take care of the redundant topics of the whole gambling board before doing anything else.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 20, 2023, 10:33:45 AM

Can you give me 10 high quality topic discussions about gambling discussion should be?

I don't think topic like: "guide how to prevent from gambling addiction", " step how to know if we''re an addicts", "history x game", " how to become a good gambler" etc that's just a generic topics and it's repeated over and over.

I disagree with your idea.

Most of these get trashed or locked if reported. I'm getting tired of the really stupid ones though: Does your wife/child/dog know you gamble. Do you gamble with your right hand or left? Have you ever gambled on the toilet? Have you ever gambled on an aeroplane? Have you ever gambled on the toilet of an aeroplane etc. I saw there's a thread in there for Miss Universe now.

Quote from: Eternad on January 20, 2023, 10:28:46 AM

Looking at the image below looks like the gambling discussion board is more on sports discussion rather than a gambling discussion instead. I don't frequently on sportsbook so I usually skip threads like these but the gambling discussion board is already full of this type of thread so there's no skipping here but a full ignore on the board.

I believe adding a child board namely Slot, Table Games, Sports Betting and other gambling types will make the discussion on that board more organized and easy to distinguish for all the gamblers. Gambling discussion board is already flooded due to signature campaign requirements. What do you think about this suggestion?

There's hardly any threads on slots or table games etc so those aren't really needed. I agree it's become more of a general sports discussion sub though. We could just get strict and go back to basics and say if it doesn't involve bitcoin somewhere then it doesn't belong in there but something tells me people will find a way to squeeze in a mention of bitcoin in any which way they can.

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Quote from: Jawhead999 on January 20, 2023, 10:33:45 AM

Can you give me 10 high quality topic discussions about gambling discussion should be?

I don't think topic like: "guide how to prevent from gambling addiction", " step how to know if we''re an addicts", "history x game", " how to become a good gambler" etc that's just a generic topics and it's repeated over and over.

I disagree with your idea.

I agree with this post.

Gambling discussion board is fine as it is. There are barely any meaningful discussion in that board. Adding more child boards will accomplish nothing. Let's say we added a "slot games" child board. Who is going to post there and what? What can anybody possibly discuss anything about slot games? It will be more of the same spam just in a different sub forum.

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Can you give me 10 high quality topic discussions about gambling discussion should be?

I don't think topic like: "guide how to prevent from gambling addiction", " step how to know if we''re an addicts", "history x game", " how to become a good gambler" etc that's just a generic topics and it's repeated over and over.

I disagree with your idea.

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Looking at the image below looks like the gambling discussion board is more on sports discussion rather than a gambling discussion instead. I don't frequently on sportsbook so I usually skip threads like these but the gambling discussion board is already full of this type of thread so there's no skipping here but a full ignore on the board.

I believe adding a child board namely Slot, Table Games, Sports Betting and other gambling types will make the discussion on that board more organized and easy to distinguish for all the gamblers. Gambling discussion board is already flooded due to signature campaign requirements. What do you think about this suggestion?

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