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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Without their guidance to their kids, the emotion can't be handle by those young minds. That's why not just in gambling but also in other things, they have to guide their kids.
Everything that's out of their control can have a predatory stance and even to the people that they're talking with. It just have to be guided by them and explain what are do's and don'ts that their children has to understand about gambling. Addiction is a serious problem and even them as parents, they might not be able to handle it.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

Well, that is what most of the time happens when a gambler can't control himself and become addicted to gambling.
I've seen people online that got addicted in gambling to the point that they will borrow money to their colleagues and will sell most of what they have just to have money to use to either recover their losses or to just gamble itself because they are addicted already. Ending? They will be depressed and I don't know if there are some who are committing suicide because of it but I hope they aren't thinking of it.

Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

I think there are laws in every country regarding gambling but with gambling right now mostly online already because of the pandemic, I doubt that the government can make law improvements especially with the age limit that is allowed to gamble. Gambling can change your life positively or negatively and as an adult and as a gambler, we should know the consequences that gambling might give to us.

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Quote from: Distinctin on March 08, 2022, 06:51:11 AM

Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

I guess there's nothing to improve, gambling addiction is the fault of the gamblers, it's not the operators. If they allow the liquor producer and people get addicted to liquor, would that mean the production should be stopped? of course NO!

If the number of cases in a particular place or country that's the time that the government might take an action but if just a few counts or does not trigger the whole community itself there's no need for the government presence instead the relatives or any people on that environment of the person is the responsible to make sure their companion are still in a good health or not already addicted.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

I guess there's nothing to improve, gambling addiction is the fault of the gamblers, it's not the operators. If they allow the liquor producer and people get addicted to liquor, would that mean the production should be stopped? of course NO!

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

The article is very disheartening the parents should always be the first to go if parents lose their child this way it's a lifetime of mourning, I hope they can cope, the big lesson we can learn here is whenever there is a sign of addiction even it may look harmless and the gambler can still keep up, we must always look for a sign if left uncontrol it can lead to loss of mind and life, gambling should be played moderately 5 or more hours of playing can be considered high risk already.

For parents if they see their kids is participating on any gambling activities maybe the best thing they can do is to guide them since base on our experience early days in gambling is the most crucial one since from this where addiction mostly started and this is really destructive didn't assest properly. And for surr once they already experience all the risk they can counter all things and can able do proper planning upon their play time so proper guidance is really needed by new gamblers.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

The article is very disheartening the parents should always be the first to go if parents lose their child this way it's a lifetime of mourning, I hope they can cope, the big lesson we can learn here is whenever there is a sign of addiction even it may look harmless and the gambler can still keep up, we must always look for a sign if left uncontrol it can lead to loss of mind and life, gambling should be played moderately 5 or more hours of playing can be considered high risk already.

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Actually on gambling site have term of service not about rule with how to begin gambling but also almost gambling site give warning for gambler about risk when begin betting, I think all people have know what the risk and effect with gambling and many of expert in gambling never use their saving money. Almost have country allowed with gambling as legal site but not any law when how much money do you on gambling site, check again with rule with gambling and have to know about risk before you loss everything in gambling and you need ready if keep try with gambling.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Honestly, I've heard of Gambling addiction but never heard of Gambling Disorder and the treatment for it is crucial for the patient's rehabilitation. I wonder if they conduct such seminars to the poorest community in our country because whenever I attend the topic are always sex transmitted diseases and growing crops to counter the dramatically increased of the poorest population without even having any alternatives for the high price of foods. That's why they cannot stop it even though they have nothing on the food table anymore because maybe some of them have already addicted and got this kind of disorder.

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It's double edged sword, I can say gambling is good and could make extra money, but I can't blame other people if they said gambling is bad and you'll always lose due to house edge. So it's really depends on each person opinions regarding a matter and I don't think laws need a improvements, if someone really wanted to gambling even he have addiction... he will do anything to make him can gamble again.

To stop gambling addiction, the addicts need to have own motive and spirit to stop... therapist, doctor and parents only an assistance to help you, they can't make you stop 100%.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

From what I am reading, it would seem that the Healthcare industry has a *predatory* stance. Why on earth would anyone give Opioids or antipsychotics to a gambling addict? Hes not private Ryan with his legs blown off or a schizophrenic. A gambling addiction is just like any other addiction. Fat people are food addicts, perverts are sex addicts, crackheads are drug addicts. There are ways to deal with them and help them out of financial trouble situations or offer medical advice, but an addict is an addict. Its just how their brain is wired. Not much you can do about that.

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It baffles me as well as overwhelms me when I see how things that are ordinary nothing becomes a very big problem when done too much.
And then, what pops up in my mind is -
Porn addiction - I can understand cus I've been there
Food addiction - I can understand too
Movie addiction
Phone addiction
Drug addiction - includes alcohol and hard drugs
Smoking addiction
Music addiction.
All this addictions, I can understand but then, gambling addiction is what I don't really understand how it happens, what's the really big fun in gambling that someone should get so addicted to it? Is a question I ask myself most time, maybe I don't understand because I don't gamble alot, so probably it's not my thing.

I had a friend way back in 2016 who gambled until he lost everything, his wife took their only child and left him because feeding became a big problem, as the guy hardly keeps money, ones he gets his salary, he will spend almost everything on gambling, and even when he wins, he ends up spending all his winnings right there in the game shop, even after he's family left him, he still never stopped gambling, and till today, when ever the issue of gambling addiction is discussed, am really wondering within myself, what really drives gambling addiction.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp
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Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

I had not heard the term gambling disorder as such, as a clinical term. But of course I have heard of problem gamblers.

I am not a big fan of regulations but it seems to me that the gambling sector is one that needs to be policed by the public authorities, otherwise they have a tendency to destroy lives to make money.

Regarding the laws, I think that the current ones are fine even if they can be improved, and especially to control more the illegal gambling, which escapes the regulations. Although it is never possible to control everything 100%.

Quote from: Dart18 on March 08, 2022, 01:53:53 AM

I believe this also depends on how the a child was raised.

There are many factors. I believe that the person who has these exaggerated problems with gambling and ends up committing suicide, had previous problems and gambling behavior is a symptom. But a person can go through a bad period and then have a full life. If when that person has a bad period he/she falls into gambling, he/she can end up very badly. That is why I believe that the public authorities have to control the gambling industry.

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I believe this also depends on how the a child was raised. If there is discipline in the house, (the real one) then a child will take it until he grows to a man. I don't see the problem in gambling as long as you know your limits and the discipline made by your parents will be the one shielding you from that responsibility to control it.
Don't give a child money, he can't do it. Don't give them your credit card accounts, they can't do it. If its their own money they will be spending to gamble then it will be their problem if they got broke and unable to buy their own food. I learned all of that hard with my parents and until now it's stuck in my brain.
There are other issues outside of what I said but it gives me a difficult time to understand it. Gambling addiction is surely a big problem but I don't understand how it happened with others who had their parents supporting them.

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This isn't the fault of lack of medications nor intervention therapy, but rather poor parenting that lead to the addiction of the teenager. Parents often shift the blame to the lack of professional management strategies from healthcare professionals, but apparently it's within their initial care which is the problem. I don't know if any drugs can help gambling addicts to recover, but I do know that intervention on the onset of gambling addiction greatly helps in curbing addicts to go deeper to the rabbit hole.

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Quote from: Doell on March 07, 2022, 10:59:05 AM

Indeed mental disorders such as gambling addicts must see a psychiatrist, such treatment may be very useful for most addicts. In my country if there are addicts then they will go to the doctor but depending on the economic capacity as well, there are those who run to shamans or are left alone until they become crazy. The regulations in my country are strict if a gambler is caught gambling, he is immediately jailed.

Gambling addiction can cause us to lose everything, not only money but we will also lose our lives, we can also go crazy, every country must have its own regulations, people who gamble are definitely provided with their own platform by the state, in my country also restricts people who gamble. playing gambling, if they play gambling in crowded places and in public places, it is certain that the government will arrest them, but if they gamble in the places that have been provided, they will definitely be safe, in my opinion if people are addicted to playing gambling, it can be said that the person already has a mental disorder, and they must be handled immediately by the authorities.

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This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

I guess that "big pharma" is really desperate to sell more drugs and make more money from of the poor gambling addicts.This is just as predatory as some parts of the gambling industry. Angry

I don't really think that gambling addiction can be cured with drugs,pills and remedies.It can be cured only by therapy and by the desire of the gambling addict to solve his mental problem and to get out of his toxic condition.
It has been proven multiple times that some antidepressants can lead to addiction.
Nobody can solve a gambler's problem,by turning one addiction into another.

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I guess it all comes down to each one because we know gambling is an activity that some people do in their spare time. If a child is addicted to gambling, it is not all the fault of the child or the gambling itself but it will be a big question, why the child can be like that. Of course, this also needs to be considered by every parent how they supervise their children. Maybe parents can accuse gambling of making their child addicted but maybe parents need to look at what causes their child to be like that. A child can't become addicted without a reason. It's like an addiction to playing games on a smartphone but this time, gambling uses money.

This is why parents need to wisely supervise their children and always remind their children to stay away from gambling and explain the consequences that will arise if they become addicted. And it will be the responsibility of the parents to supervise their children.

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Hm just reading this, I don't think there is sth like a "Gambling disorder". I guess one can get addicted to it, just like other addictions that don't involve drug abuse (e.g. video games, social networks, porn or whatever). The treatment then should follow the standard procedure for this kind of illness (not sure what it is, I am no docter...)

Of course for younger people the parents play an important role to educate their children. School education should also play their part though.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

I agree with her regarding the inadequate gambling treatment and medicines but it is unfair to solely blame everything on it. mental disorder is always complex and complicated, misdiagnosing is always possible.

Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder?

NO! there is rarely any mention of gambling addiction/disorder in my country.

Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?

YES!

Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 10:31:57 AM

Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

YES! people may not like or completely deny it but it is true.

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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 08, 2022, 12:05:13 AM

In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong,

that is the best point , we as parents must understand and learn what our children is doing and taking part.

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we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted

those guilty people wanted to look for others to be blamed for their own mistakes and irresponsible actions.

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the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction

agreed totally , i myself is acting on this part because i don't want my child to go in different ways.

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and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.

This is what government and family needs to be part together, helping each other for the benefits of the child.

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