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Quote from: Peanutswar on March 08, 2022, 01:05:13 AM

In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong,

that is the best point , we as parents must understand and learn what our children is doing and taking part.

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we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted

those guilty people wanted to look for others to be blamed for their own mistakes and irresponsible actions.

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the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction

agreed totally , i myself is acting on this part because i don't want my child to go in different ways.

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and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.

This is what government and family needs to be part together, helping each other for the benefits of the child.

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In the first place, the parents are responsible to guide their children to make a proper knowledge what are the things right and wrong, we cannot blame the government because the child get addicted the education start first in their house that's way better to educate their children first but at that rate of addiction and the parent's can't hold any more they can seek help for the government for like a physiatrist but if the child can handle the gambling things and can earn through this a good factor but still need to be guided.

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On one hand I think that the Government needs to fuck off for the most part and let people live their lives. Who are they to tell adults they shouldn’t be allowed to make bets? On the other hand I know it’s a serious issue, like drug addiction and I think it’s important there is help available if needed. Most people can handle it without problem, so in my opinion it’s not something that should ever be banned (for adults that is).

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Quote from: Yogee on March 07, 2022, 06:13:06 PM

Law changes depends on how severe the situation is in each country. I don't think it's necessary using the case of the 24 year old boy. He started out at around a legal age so it's not like he's not aware of what he's doing.

Well tbf, it started out at an age of 16-17, which spiraled out of control probably during that 6-7 year gap from when he first started. I guess they're blaming the medication and process and whatnot that the kid underwent for said years but still wasn't able to stop gambling. There are a lot of cases where influence on a young age actually tends to stay when we grow up after all, especially if the said activity was still being done even after the start up. Its kinda like a virus that grew worse and worse.

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Laws needs improvement to minimize the cases of addiction that can lead to more serious problem. But there should be strict implementation and awareness so gamblers can manage to discipline themselves.

Quote from: harizen on March 07, 2022, 07:56:19 PM

Being a responsible gambler requires a bitter experience.

Well, you're right. Sometimes we need to learned the hard way in order to realize our mistakes and to avoid repeating the same mistakes again.

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When viewed in terms of psychological effects, someone who experiences gambling depression will be vulnerable to things that make him down for what has made him lose. Some countries also often emphasize that this kind of depression is fatal to mental and health. Not a few psychiatrists who experience the same complaint, so therapy is still a good solution to overcome depression due to gambling.

It is not a matter of law that must be corrected, but different people's gambling perspectives have different negative impacts as well. In this case, it is customary to overcome the mentality gradually and be guided by a psychiatrist who specializes in the field of mental improvement.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?

yes totally agreeing in this mate, Improving the laws and the implementations so that gamblers and family's won't suffer that much because they have also some obligations to what the gamblers may come.

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Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

What I am thinking here? is that we as parents has a total responsibilities to what our children may come.

and imagine that the involve person is a 16-17 y/o when this happens.

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Even though in my country gambling is in a grey area, the government can control the level of gambling because people already understand the dangers of gambling.
Maybe it depends on the level of gambling addiction in a country and if that happens, maybe the government needs to revise their laws to work with the situation.
The role of parents and family is very important in the development of young people because they are still unstable at their age and easily influenced by their friends.
In addition, these young people need to have some self-control and a good level of awareness to know that something is not good.
It is not the gambling industry's fault, but there are factors from parents, family, environment that make young people look for something else that can satisfy themselves.
A child who grows up is like a clean white paper, depending on the parents how they can direct their child to do good and stay away from wrong.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

I'm fine with how the government is informing people here about the disadvantage of doing gambling. But as stated by others too, what's the sense of those shared information if it will be ignored mostly by people.

I don't like to be negative but it seems it's better to see that people will experience some gambling problems in order to learn something out it.

Being a responsible gambler requires a bitter experience.

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Gambling addiction is a big problem around the world. Every country have got its own stance on the issue. In my country state have been given the rights to create it's policy on gambling. During the pandemic more gambling platforms have got existed and this has taken the lives of many people. Even after so many deaths of teenagers the government haven't taken any big step. This looks like the governments will receive funds/regular pay from these platforms.

As mentioned in the OP, de-addiction centre for gambling is a must in every country. As finance is involved, gambling is much connected to the emotional activities. This is why gambling addiction need to be treated at the right time, if not the end result will be very worse.

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Quote from: btc_angela on March 07, 2022, 11:54:48 AM

Of course there are laws in every country about gambling and it's bad effects and how government are helping to curb those addictions, even stricter penalties. But I guess it's really up to the individual themselves, in the first place they know the dangers of gambling and yet they try to get into it and suffer the consequences. The government can only do that much, people need to help themselves if they don't want to get addicted and the bad effects of gambling in life.

I started gambling at the age of 16, and to be honest I didn't think that gambling is bad, it started when I was almost certain that a team will win a match, they needed it to avoid being relegated, so I searched and found a bookie that offers that and placed a bet on them and won, I didn't even know what I was getting myself into, I didn't know I will get addicted to it, so I was missing guidance and knowledge and even restrictions, and it is a serious addiction that can cost people their money and even their mental health, most people didn't know how serious gambling addiction is until they experienced it.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

There's a law already available for that maybe what we need here is proper education towards gambling is needed to improve since I rarely see gambling awareness program that's why many people think about this as normal things in life. Also people are in denial about their current situation in gambling that's why its hard for expert to asses those certain situation and help people who's already been addicted. That's why counseling and frequently educating maybe thru social media and other mainstream platform can help people realize more about the risk and how they can get out with it.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?

Regardless of the laws being strict or needing improvement, they can't fully control each and everyone's will on doing gambling. That's beyond of law's control and the only solution I'm seeing to help gambling problems is for the people to help themselves.

No matter how the law was improved if people will ignore it since they are now getting deeply fall on doing gambling nothing will change.

That's the reality that's happening everywhere.

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Unfortunately this is bad news to read!

Curiously and as incredible as it may seem, today I read a news on a website that Casinos and Gambling may be allowed in the country where I live, after almost 70 years of prohibition.

Of course, this was a Bill and it will be voted on in the Senate, but depending on the situation, gambling may be allowed here.

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Lucky are those who are born in a country where people have the capacity to spend tax money on gamblers who couldn't control thier impulsiveness. If they are not in such a country like the US, these gamblers are going to be robbing anyone just so they can have some cash to gamble again. Very unfortunate for someone in other countries, thier gambling addiction will go worse.

Yes law needs improvement. I guess if the casinos will indeed ask for KYC, the casino must do something good with thier KYC or the information they got. IF they see the person is impulsive which behavior could potentially make them addicted, maybe limit the game time of the person.

Make use of the KYC information of the casinos. If they learn the person doesn't really have money but just accidentally got there because friends visited a casino and he was tagged along, maybe limit his access after that day. But because the casino is a business, that's not possible.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

I was going through my feed when I saw this article :
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hulldailymail.co.uk/news/hull-east-yorkshire-news/heartbroken-parents-say-hull-teacher-6755181.amp

According to the article the parents of the 24 Year old teacher blamed inadequate Gambling treatment and medicines available right now, also improper assesment of Gambling disorder. Their son became an addict by using fixed odds at the age of 16-17 and ultimately his addiction spiralled out of control.

This made me go further in the article to find more about Gambling disorder, according to the current education, it's categorized under impulsive disorder, in the US they are actually treated with medicine like : Mood stabilizers, Opioids, antidepressants and antipsychotic pills.

Is your country doing enough to inform people about the disorder? It's does require medical treatment first and foremost therefore I do think I would suggest anyone banning their accounts and asking help from social platforms to go to a certified therapist. It's not a joke and should not be taken lightly.

Do you think the laws needs improvement?
Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

Gambling addiction without a doubt is a problem, unlike those which are addicted to consuming substances to alter their mood in some way or form the one that is addicted to gambling suffers from a behavioral addiction, which in many cases can be even more difficult to cure, so in that aspect the parents are not wrong, however I really think they are trying to shift away the responsibility from their son, after all it is not as if anyone forced him to did what he did and he failed himself at restricting those impulses, and now he is suffering the consequences of those mistakes.

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

Do you think the laws needs improvement?

the law doesn't need to be improved, on all gambling sites it's there well written in the TOS: "prohibited for under 18"

people shouldn't blame gambling sites, addiction is people's fault, there are people who are addicted to alcohol, but i don't see blaming breweries, so why would we blame gambling sites when Does anyone become addicted to gambling?

Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

Do you think as the parents mentioned that Gambling industry has a *predatory* stance, is true?

this is not true, the gambling industry is playing their part, and it is up to each person to control themselves when playing

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Quote from: fiulpro on March 07, 2022, 11:31:57 AM

... Do you think the laws needs improvement?

Law changes depends on how severe the situation is in each country. I don't think it's necessary using the case of the 24 year old boy. He started out at around a legal age so it's not like he's not aware of what he's doing.

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Quote from: Oceat on March 07, 2022, 04:10:53 PM

Addiction is addiction, it doesn't matter what it is as long as you can't control yourself or stop from keep doing the same routine then you really need help. Medications aren't enough itself if you, yourself won't help to change or cope up what's best and what is bad for you.

The government might be trying their best to help those in trouble but for some countries like the third world countries, there isn't enough people who could afford to go and ask for their help when all they could offer in exchange is nothing. Except for the self-awareness that they were fucked up.

those who do not have self-awareness, their whole life will be very chaotic...

only yourself must be fully responsible for what you do, you can't blame others for what happened to you, gambling addiction occurs because you don't realize that you have a big responsibility towards yourself. those who do not have a sense of responsibility towards themselves will only bring misery to their personal and family lives. Don't expect the government to treat your addiction in full, they won't be fully responsible for it, they just do what they're told.

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From what I know in our country it's the usual offering of help for gamblers that has problems, exclusion to using casinos depending on their financial situation (or whenever signs of gambling disorders come up, such as mood swings, excessive stays in casinos, etc.,). On one note though, I honestly think medication is just a temporary stop measure, it doesn't actually help in solving the root of the problem. It's like putting a stop gap, and if not resolved within that time frame where the medication is effective, i hardly doubt people could get over addiction. As to how to stop it, well, not really sure, I think it varies from person to person?

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