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Topic: Gambling for fun, is it a lie that we tell ourselves? (Read 1030 times)

legendary
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Now, if it was as easy to actually abide by these principles as it is to talk about them, guess we would not have any addicts in this world lol
There are many ways that casinos use the strategy to break your principles even if you win and rush to log out. I ever intended to stop if I won $100 and withdraw the profit soon. But, I don't know what happened to all my profit (won $100) and lose. I didn't even stop after reached the winning, there are something like a magical whisper to keep me playing. that very insane, because I can't hear anything after my money's gone  Grin. it is very difficult to maintain principles if you gambler because the habit bring you to bet until the button can't be pressed.

You are not alone my friend Cheesy casinos really have a formula that can be said to be very powerful to keep gamblers there before the money runs out in each session, I don't know what happens but you also feel that it is really very difficult to get out even though you have managed to get a decent win, like you said even though you have reached the target of $100 you want but it all feels unfinished, like there is a whisper that goes into the ear telling us to stay there.

On the other hand, I'm sure that's the whisper of greed
 that always comes when we are lucky enough in one of our sessions haha, although maybe you are one of those people who are instigated to continue because of greed but I think it's normal because almost every gambler experiences scenarios like this including me too. Honestly for myself when I am a little aware that greed is starting to appear in my mind then usually I like to think for a moment and promise myself that if I lose I will not regret it too much, like for example I brought $10 capital and got a win to $100 and if indeed at that time all the winnings were lost because of greed then I always try to remember that I "only lost $10 not $100" just think that the victory I got earlier was just a passing wind.  Cheesy
sr. member
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Pretty much all I have been doing lately is gambling for FUN lol... Jokes aside (it's the name of the crypto gambling token), I feel that as long as you limit yourself to gambling with what you can afford to lose, and don't expect to win every time so that it doesn't affect your mood for thigs outside of gambling, you should be fine. Now, if it was as easy to actually abide by these principles as it is to talk about them, guess we would not have any addicts in this world lol
Gambling and fun winning all amount to one place. Most times, we even lie to ourselves and say that we are still continuing to gamble because we are enjoying the game while we have left the fun part and are now chasing losses. It happens most times without even the gambler knowing.
 
Sometimes there is one tricky thing some casinos do: after you have made some winnings and profit has been added to your initial deposit, the moment you try to withdraw, you will experience some sort of delay in withdrawal.
 
As you might try to wait a little longer, you might also be tempted to try again if you can increase the amount, but this time around you might end up losing it all up to the casino and you might be left with nothing, which if you don't hold yourself down, you might end up doing another deposit to the account. By that time, you are no longer gambling within your limit.
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.
Looking at your calculations alone, you can see that gambling is not just for the winning alone; both the winning and the fun contribute massively to why people gamble.
 
If I'm gambling and over 10–20 times I gamble within a week or month, I happen to lose more often and no profit is being made, then I will have to leave the game and focus on other things. The fun in the gambling is what will keep me going, if not in a business sense. Such spending without getting anything in return should be avoided.
 
To avoid chasing losses is part of responsible gambling, and keeping our emotions under watch is all part of it. If fun is not in play and all we see is how to make profit, we might cross the line and turn ourselves into addicts.


It's true that people gamble for fun, they entertain themselves while gambling. But the question is if they keep losing money over a period of time, for example in one month, will they still consider it as having fun? Or will The fun diminish as a result of constant loses? The answer will determine whether the purpose of gambling is solely for fun or if winning is a factor that motivates them to keep coming back to gamble. So my point is that although most people gamble for fun, but without winning money, the gambling can become boring. In that case despite the fun derived in gambling, it'll not be worth enjoying without winning money.
hero member
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Some games can be more fun and exciting than others. But I think it important to remember that losing money can feel the same no matter what game you are playing.
Some gamblers try to get back the money they lost but this can lose more money. It is important for people to know that gambling always has a chance of losing money no matter what game they play or why they play it.
Gambling can be fun but it is important to be careful and nevet lose too much money which may effect on you personal life or on you mental health.
That's true because whatever gambling game we play, if we lose, it will feel the same. Our money will be lost at the gambling table, and we will not be able to easily get our money back even if we gamble longer and use more money. We must know that the chance of losing money will become greater if we do not immediately stop gambling. Many people have experienced losing money from various types of gambling games, so we must try to prevent that from happening to us. If we lose too much money, we can only regret it because recovering from the loss will not be easy, and there is a possibility that we will lose even more money.

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Losing money is never funny, depending on what we spent the money on, and how important it'll be to the growth of the person economically. That's the main reason people are told to learn money management through gambling. Because we all have lots of games to participate in gambling. Hence the way we think shouldn't be considered similar, as the motive ain't the same. But, a gambler who possess some money management skill, he'd be able to utilize it while gambling, and on the real life business. Not everybody will ever get the fun via gambling. Some gamblers who understands the purpose of gambling. Don't need to rush to stake games in gambling. Monitoring every move we make in gambling, helps us to learn, while others are bothered about their lost money. The authority has been handed to the player, to decide how he wants to gamble. And nobody should complain about, how he's feeling, when the game get void. Happy or sad.
Losing money will make us feel sad and regretful, especially if we use a lot of money to gamble and lose all the money. But the feeling of sadness is only temporary because another day, we will definitely return to gambling and maybe spend even more money. Indeed, it would be a lie if we regretted it even though we have said that gambling is entertainment. Perhaps we should learn to reduce the amount of money and start treating gambling as entertainment so that if we lose, it is an amount of money that we can afford. We also shouldn't complain if we have experienced loss, especially if it is a lot of losses, because we already know that it is a risk in gambling, so we must be able to accept whatever the result is.
legendary
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Now, if it was as easy to actually abide by these principles as it is to talk about them, guess we would not have any addicts in this world lol
There are many ways that casinos use the strategy to break your principles even if you win and rush to log out. I ever intended to stop if I won $100 and withdraw the profit soon. But, I don't know what happened to all my profit (won $100) and lose. I didn't even stop after reached the winning, there are something like a magical whisper to keep me playing. that very insane, because I can't hear anything after my money's gone  Grin. it is very difficult to maintain principles if you gambler because the habit bring you to bet until the button can't be pressed.
newbie
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Pretty much all I have been doing lately is gambling for FUN lol... Jokes aside (it's the name of the crypto gambling token), I feel that as long as you limit yourself to gambling with what you can afford to lose, and don't expect to win every time so that it doesn't affect your mood for thigs outside of gambling, you should be fine. Now, if it was as easy to actually abide by these principles as it is to talk about them, guess we would not have any addicts in this world lol
sr. member
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It is still very possible that there is fun even when you have a high chance of losing your bet. Because maybe the person who is gambling enjoys taking huge risks and derives joy from it. However, I don’t really really believe in gambling for fun. I understand it, but I don’t trust nor believe in it. To gamble for fun (in the way it’s always been said), you need to have self control. I’m saying this because you can start off by using tiny amount of money just because you enjoy winning, but then the human nature comes in. Your mind could question you as to why you aren’t staking more since you’re doing really well at the prediction, and from the moment you fall for it (the average human will likely fall, IMO), it’s no more for fun, you want to make money.

If the gambler consider the gambling for the entertainment,their loss of the money also doesn’t affect him.It also allow the gambler to avoid of the gambling without any emotional distress in the game.So finally the gambler will get more chance of the winning due to play the fair game in the gambling site.The gambler only know this fact that the gamblers who play the game with the idea to win the game,he will not win at the end.The reason was the emotional interference of the game at the losing the entire dollars or make the gambler to get stress at the small dollar of the loss of money at the initial stage of the game in gambling site.

What you said in your first sentence is not entirely true. I understand that what you said will be the mentality in that case however, I don’t believe that it’ll be the case. Who derives joy from losing their money? I think that even if you are staking a tiny amount of money, you still feel somehow that you are losing and maybe you need to stop because it’s not getting any more interesting. Or maybe let me ask, can someone who is “playing for fun” play with $1 and lose 50 times and still enjoys the game? The money lost is not fun, at all.
sr. member
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People come in all kinds of characters, but everyone is the same when asked about money, which is to spin money to generate more value even though sometimes it runs out or gets stuck on a simple gambling game.

Some aspects of our lives involve gambling. Spending money, buying something is consumable and buying again even though we realize the money is used or only for necessities and do not expect significant benefits.

I hold the view that games and gambling do not always have to have more results, if there are results going home, also if the mood and circumstances are not in favor, I divert other pleasures, why force it. I don't hide behind the word fun just for greed or a short way of thinking to multiply money, and not also because instead of scapegoating fun when defeat comes.
hero member
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With all the explanations and replies above, i hope people will realize that gambling is not for winning. The longer you gamble, the greater your losses. That's why gambling is labeled sometimes as a form of entertainment for this reasons that it's for you to have fun and pay (bet) the service you choose. Although people win, it is considered as lucky if they win or stopped the game and go home with a win.
hero member
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.
Looking at your calculations alone, you can see that gambling is not just for the winning alone; both the winning and the fun contribute massively to why people gamble.
 
If I'm gambling and over 10–20 times I gamble within a week or month, I happen to lose more often and no profit is being made, then I will have to leave the game and focus on other things. The fun in the gambling is what will keep me going, if not in a business sense. Such spending without getting anything in return should be avoided.
 
To avoid chasing losses is part of responsible gambling, and keeping our emotions under watch is all part of it. If fun is not in play and all we see is how to make profit, we might cross the line and turn ourselves into addicts.

Fun is something that you should really be that minding on and not on the money that it could give because on the time that you would really be that having those kind of impressions then it would really be just that making you that desperate and this is something that wont really be  that good. It is really just that there are people who do have those kind of change of impressions on the time that they would really be playing on which they would really be having that kind of impressions and this is where shit things do really start to happen on which on the time that you are really that making yourself blind and you would really be starting on messing up your finances as you do go further ahead and this is something that just very common in every gambler.
hero member
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.
Looking at your calculations alone, you can see that gambling is not just for the winning alone; both the winning and the fun contribute massively to why people gamble.
 
If I'm gambling and over 10–20 times I gamble within a week or month, I happen to lose more often and no profit is being made, then I will have to leave the game and focus on other things. The fun in the gambling is what will keep me going, if not in a business sense. Such spending without getting anything in return should be avoided.
 
To avoid chasing losses is part of responsible gambling, and keeping our emotions under watch is all part of it. If fun is not in play and all we see is how to make profit, we might cross the line and turn ourselves into addicts.
legendary
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?

The fact that we are losing money should not be a problem for those who argue that they play just for fun.
Think of it this way....

When you go to a football stadium, when you go to watch a film at the cinema, or when you join a club and pay a certain amount each month to use the swimming pool, sports or golf courts, etc... you do not pay for that?

The fact of "spending" money on something that gives you pleasure is completely justifiable, and you should see gambling in the same way.... I spend money on gambling because I feel good when I'm playing.

The only thing that changes in gambling is that we have the "possibility" of getting back the money we spend, in some cases even more than we spent, but the main objective is not that but spending money to have fun.

The problem is when people spend a lot more money than they should to get that fun. Would you pay $1,000 to watch a movie at the cinema? I amnot. But there are those who spend to feel the adrenaline in a single bet. This is not fun
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What gamblers feel about gambling is not expected to be the same, due to the need that led a person to participate in gambling. It's not to be a general problem, like Op thought. The goal of gamblers in some age brackets would be for money, while others thinks it's fun, and the rest only play to master strategies that can be implemented in life. Although those who play for money have a big PR and are populous. Casinos also use their PR to create more awareness about the business and yield more customers. If a gambler is for the fun, he'll get it and enjoy his money while gambling. Anxiety only erupts when the gambler is after money and doesn't enjoy his money. Because it's as if he's paying to earn more money or investing his money for more profits. They see gambling as a business and end up feeling that those who enjoy gambling for fun are not or lying about it. I'd conclude that it's just a misunderstanding.
Gamblers don't feel the same when they gamble, and that's because they use different gambling games, so they get different experiences. But when they lose, it is the same as losing money at the gambling table, and even though they try to recover their losses, it will not be easy for them, and they can experience even bigger losses. Those who really aim to make money from the moment they start gambling will probably experience more losses than other gamblers because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Gamblers should be able to choose to have fun rather than win because there is uncertainty about when they can get that win. It is also true that those of us who have lost at gambling are lying if we have enjoyed gambling, and that is what is experienced by those who try to chase their winnings. But those who really aim to have fun from gambling just feel the pleasure and don't think much about the losses they experience because that is the risk of gambling.

Losing money is never funny, depending on what we spent the money on, and how important it'll be to the growth of the person economically. That's the main reason people are told to learn money management through gambling. Because we all have lots of games to participate in gambling. Hence the way we think shouldn't be considered similar, as the motive ain't the same. But, a gambler who possess some money management skill, he'd be able to utilize it while gambling, and on the real life business. Not everybody will ever get the fun via gambling. Some gamblers who understands the purpose of gambling. Don't need to rush to stake games in gambling. Monitoring every move we make in gambling, helps us to learn, while others are bothered about their lost money. The authority has been handed to the player, to decide how he wants to gamble. And nobody should complain about, how he's feeling, when the game get void. Happy or sad.
sr. member
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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.
Doing this together with our friends is more fun but if we did solely, that tends to change our mindset and we think about winning.
Well, I can admit that not all the time I'm happy especially when losing, I get mad but still I never blame anyone or even myself, I accept it as I understand what gambling is all about.

I couldn't pretend but still, I consider gambling as entertainment which means I'm doing this for pleasure rather than with the intention to win. If I get lucky then it is great but if I lose, it is still okay. 
sr. member
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Gambling for fun is an honet lie we tell ourselves just to get going and satisfy our conscience to the degree to which it keeps us comfortable and allows for us continue indulging until a possible win is achieved.

There is and has not been anyone who gambles without the expectation of winning, irrespective of how much was used to gamble. If then the reason for gambling is to win then what jusitifis it as fun, nothing but self deceit.
hero member
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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.
Gambling is really fun for those who don't take it very serious every game must end up to be wins, when you understand that gambling is all about lose and win, because of how unpredictable the results is you wouldn't want to invest more than you can't afford.  When you take gambling as hustle, it won't be seen as something funny for you, it will be expected that every game must end up to be win. For gambling to be seen as fun for gamblers they need  to build their mindset not to see trading as a source of income,  with this their won't be any emotions attached to it even if their is a lose.
hero member
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I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
no problem at all. I am ready to lose the amount that I bet on the bet. I wrote about a similar situation in another topic. I prefer betting on sports events and depending on whether my favorite teams are playing, I can place a bet and it will not be a big disappointment for me when the bet is not will play, it’s just a hobby. There are periods when teams don’t play during the season (training/holidays) and at that moment I have no thirst for bets.
So yes, there are people who take gambling very calmly if they don’t place big bets.
hero member
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I know for sure that if we take periodic account of how many times that we gamble, maybe weekly, monthly or yearly, we'll find out that the loses are far greater than the winnings, so I sometimes wonder how we can be indulging in something that we lose far more than we gain, in the name of having fun. I know that it's human nature to want to conquer, defeat, control and be the leader, yet we go into gambling knowing that the system doesn't give us a fair advantage of achieving these aims, yet we're happy to go back and likely be defeated again.

Perhaps deep down in our conscience, somewhere that we don't like to listen to, it still tells us the truth that the reason why we're going to gamble is to hopefully win money, not really to have fun.

I know that it's said that you should gamble the amount that you can afford to loose, but will you call it a true fun when you know that there's a higher probability of losing your bet?
In gambling we don't expect having the statistics of gambling especially the winning aspect to be higher than the losing part of gambling, its very obvious that gambling have to do with different ways and you have to know the measures that is suitable for you before you venture into gambling because when you don't have a budget for gambling you will end up using your savings for gambling, many people today never cross check their last year expenses in gambling and their last year profit in gambling, so many people do say that its not necessary to make such statistics of gambling annually
Because of that impossibility pf having a higher winning rtuo vs the loses that the reason why it necessary to gamble with the mindset that you lose and lose,  then win +lose which is why we have advocated for responsible gambling and for that to happen a gambler must first of all have the mindset of gambling just for fun and not the winning at all time,  winning os part of gambling but the ability to understand the house edge is what makes you a smart gambler.

Some take gambling as win at all time event,  meanwhile in reality it not so and those who have such mindset are always disappointed in the end when they imagination fails to come to reality,  one they record loses more than their win at some point in time.
sr. member
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Gamblers don't feel the same when they gamble, and that's because they use different gambling games, so they get different experiences. But when they lose, it is the same as losing money at the gambling table, and even though they try to recover their losses, it will not be easy for them, and they can experience even bigger losses. Those who really aim to make money from the moment they start gambling will probably experience more losses than other gamblers because gambling is not a place to make money but just to have fun. Gamblers should be able to choose to have fun rather than win because there is uncertainty about when they can get that win. It is also true that those of us who have lost at gambling are lying if we have enjoyed gambling, and that is what is experienced by those who try to chase their winnings. But those who really aim to have fun from gambling just feel the pleasure and don't think much about the losses they experience because that is the risk of gambling.
Some games can be more fun and exciting than others. But I think it important to remember that losing money can feel the same no matter what game you are playing.
Some gamblers try to get back the money they lost but this can lose more money. It is important for people to know that gambling always has a chance of losing money no matter what game they play or why they play it.
Gambling can be fun but it is important to be careful and nevet lose too much money which may effect on you personal life or on you mental health.
legendary
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I said it wasn't a lie. we are not kids who watch cartoons anymore. if you ask what entertainment is for adults and what do we discuss among our friends? Of course, gambling is one of the ways we have fun. As long as we haven't become addicts, we still have common sense and can still control how to go gambling in our free time, there is always fun. unless we consider this is the main job to earn money, how many people I have even seen are in debt because of gambling. They take this kind of game too seriously which should be used for entertainment and fun.

Yes if you are a gambler then you need to emphasize to yourself that gambling is "one" way for you to get pleasure and not "the only way to get pleasure" why is that? because obviously it's not uncommon for me to see lately a change in mindset and perspective happening unconsciously, or I mean someone who initially only focused on gambling for pleasure but because they made gambling the "only way to find pleasure" then obviously it has the potential for a change in mindset so maybe you already know what will happen when someone becomes more serious in their gambling involvement, no longer pleasure but always trying to recover the situation to break even.

That means that we still have to be very careful and also be more assertive in applying some boundaries and self-control, it is not impossible because the possibility for worse things will still remain in gambling in addition to the many temptations that are there that can clearly make us fall slowly without realizing it.
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