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Quote from: Genemind on May 29, 2020, 02:47:13 AM

In our country, it is strictly prohibited and casinos abide by the law during the lockdown. This could lead to the closure of the casino if someone reports it. It could also put people at risk even with gloves and masks. This is gambling addiction to the highest level, putting their like and even love one's life at risk just to gamble.

Casino workers and their families also needs money for food, they have to work! It's risk, I understand that,
but if they don't work they will face with other problems, maybe bigger problems!
If casino make some measures, giving their workers masks and gloves. Setting up disinfection barrier, make
enough free space between players, why to not work and make at least some money to have for food and other
basic needs! Coronavirus is dangerous, but we can't live at home in constant fear!

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In our country, it is strictly prohibited and casinos abide by the law during the lockdown. This could lead to the closure of the casino if someone reports it. It could also put people at risk even with gloves and masks. This is gambling addiction to the highest level, putting their like and even love one's life at risk just to gamble.

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Quote from: Swordsoffreedom on May 28, 2020, 08:15:20 AM

Lockdown has been going on in almost all the countries all over the world for about months. It is not possible to sit in the house for months without doing anything. Everyone is upset now, they need foods to survive, there are many people who have no other way of earning than gambling, so they have to go out for their livelihood. so, no matter how strict the government is, they will continue to gamble secretly. but i think the government should take necessary step to open all casinos. because the government can earn a lot of revenue from here.

I think if they can use their time to do many things at their home, they don't have to go out and search for another activity. Actually, they can use the time to clean their house, fix something that needs to be done, or enjoy the time with their family, it won't make them feel upset or feel lonely.

I heard that in a short time, the government will re-open the country and the city so people can back to activity and search for the new jobs. But the government will use a new protocol for people who wants to go to another city or want to go out, and they will make sure that people are healthy. We will live in a new normalisation because the virus still there. I hope that there is no new victim of the virus, and people can pass this hard time.

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Quote from: Slow death on May 17, 2020, 10:01:58 AM

In my country the government has forbidden that all places like casino, restaurants and places that sell alcoholic beverages must close.

What do people in my country do to get around this ban?

The people of my country take the phone number of the owners of these places and arrange hours that they can go there and continue playing and drinking and the owner of the place keeps the door closed so that the police think the place is closed

Something similar is happening in my country, there are many businesses, casinos included, that are making it seem as if they are closed and respecting the quarantine but in secret they are opening their businesses violating the decree of the government, in a way I can understand that they need that money to keep themselves open but at the same time they are putting everyone including themselves at risk.

And that doesn't take into account underground casinos which obviously do not respect the ban at all.

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I have not seen such things because in my country gambling offline is illegal in most part. But it's kind of normal behaviour for those who are highly addicted to gambling. It may be locked down but for them nothing has changed they just want to recover their losses Cheesy

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Quote from: radjie on May 27, 2020, 08:13:38 PM

there are several groups of people who gamble secretly here, one of them is Toto Dark gambling, of course they ignore government regulations during this pandemic, they always secretly gather in one house but the action is pretty neat because people who come not simultaneously but one by one did not even make people suspicious, after I explored it turns out their activities at home like a normal life before covid-19 gathered together for coffee while doing buying and selling activities or put up numbers they would bet.

So at least, we know that some groups gamble secretly. I think they don't care about the prohibitions from the government because they still gamble in one secret place. I believe in other areas or country, many hidden places like that which the gambler can gather and gamble or talk about other things. But in these situations, they will be selective to invite people to come to their place because they don't want to risk the other gamblers.

There are always some people who play in an ordinary casino and underground casino. Still, some people play in both two types of casino, underground and regular casino. The rules will be there, and cannot catch that player who gambles in the underground casino.

Even in a lot of countries, there are so many people that do gambling secretly but it is surely illegal as gatherings are still not allowed in a lot of countries because it is still risky to go out because of the COVID-19 virus.

There are so many people here in my country that is caught doing illegal gambling, most of the time people just do this kind of action just because of money, In that scenario, the government could be involved since they are doing it in the casino itself or maybe they are just addicted in playing. Surely there are people that would risk it for gambling maybe they are addicted or something to do something like this.

There are really people who are really addicted to gambling like in my community where there are people who are gambling physically even mass gathering is prohibited. Their desires are much stronger than their fear of having a virus. There is no wrong in gambling as long as their is no physical involvement. The best way is to gambling online than to gamble physically with peers and friends because there is a high chance that the virus may spread more.

The virus is invisible and we cannot know if the players that we played have it. The scariest part is if the person is asymptomatic where he/she doesn't have symptoms of the virus. It is really preferable to play in online gambling sites than to play physically with mass gatherings because it can be a threat to our health.

Yeah, Seriously online gambling is I think also entertaining and same as going in a physical casino you could also earn a good profit and probably higher than you could earn in a casino since you could access these online websites 24/7 at home. Surely casino is entertaining than online gambling, for someone online gambling might be boring or maybe they have doubts about the game where it could be deceived, maybe the algorithm or code use is not fair to the user.

But still, at times like this, it is already a no brainer to pick online gambling since you are risking your health is going to a casino.

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Quote from: radjie on May 27, 2020, 08:13:38 PM

there are several groups of people who gamble secretly here, one of them is Toto Dark gambling, of course they ignore government regulations during this pandemic, they always secretly gather in one house but the action is pretty neat because people who come not simultaneously but one by one did not even make people suspicious, after I explored it turns out their activities at home like a normal life before covid-19 gathered together for coffee while doing buying and selling activities or put up numbers they would bet.

So at least, we know that some groups gamble secretly. I think they don't care about the prohibitions from the government because they still gamble in one secret place. I believe in other areas or country, many hidden places like that which the gambler can gather and gamble or talk about other things. But in these situations, they will be selective to invite people to come to their place because they don't want to risk the other gamblers.

There are always some people who play in an ordinary casino and underground casino. Still, some people play in both two types of casino, underground and regular casino. The rules will be there, and cannot catch that player who gambles in the underground casino.

Even in a lot of countries, there are so many people that do gambling secretly but it is surely illegal as gatherings are still not allowed in a lot of countries because it is still risky to go out because of the COVID-19 virus.

There are so many people here in my country that is caught doing illegal gambling, most of the time people just do this kind of action just because of money, In that scenario, the government could be involved since they are doing it in the casino itself or maybe they are just addicted in playing. Surely there are people that would risk it for gambling maybe they are addicted or something to do something like this.

There are really people who are really addicted to gambling like in my community where there are people who are gambling physically even mass gathering is prohibited. Their desires are much stronger than their fear of having a virus. There is no wrong in gambling as long as their is no physical involvement. The best way is to gambling online than to gamble physically with peers and friends because there is a high chance that the virus may spread more.

The virus is invisible and we cannot know if the players that we played have it. The scariest part is if the person is asymptomatic where he/she doesn't have symptoms of the virus. It is really preferable to play in online gambling sites than to play physically with mass gatherings because it can be a threat to our health.

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Quote from: Asuspawer09 on May 28, 2020, 03:25:50 AM

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Even in a lot of countries, there are so many people that do gambling secretly but it is surely illegal as gatherings are still not allowed in a lot of countries because it is still risky to go out because of the COVID-19 virus. There are so many people here in my country that is caught doing illegal gambling, most of the time people just do this kind of action just because of money, In that scenario, the government could be involved since they are doing it in the casino itself or maybe they are just addicted in playing. Surely there are people that would risk it for gambling maybe they are addicted or something to do something like this.

Lockdown has been going on in almost all the countries all over the world for about months. It is not possible to sit in the house for months without doing anything. Everyone is upset now, they need foods to survive, there are many people who have no other way of earning than gambling, so they have to go out for their livelihood. so, no matter how strict the government is, they will continue to gamble secretly. but i think the government should take necessary step to open all casinos. because the government can earn a lot of revenue from here.

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Quote from: maydna on May 27, 2020, 09:53:05 PM

Quote from: radjie on May 27, 2020, 08:13:38 PM

there are several groups of people who gamble secretly here, one of them is Toto Dark gambling, of course they ignore government regulations during this pandemic, they always secretly gather in one house but the action is pretty neat because people who come not simultaneously but one by one did not even make people suspicious, after I explored it turns out their activities at home like a normal life before covid-19 gathered together for coffee while doing buying and selling activities or put up numbers they would bet.

So at least, we know that some groups gamble secretly. I think they don't care about the prohibitions from the government because they still gamble in one secret place. I believe in other areas or country, many hidden places like that which the gambler can gather and gamble or talk about other things. But in these situations, they will be selective to invite people to come to their place because they don't want to risk the other gamblers.

There are always some people who play in an ordinary casino and underground casino. Still, some people play in both two types of casino, underground and regular casino. The rules will be there, and cannot catch that player who gambles in the underground casino.

Even in a lot of countries, there are so many people that do gambling secretly but it is surely illegal as gatherings are still not allowed in a lot of countries because it is still risky to go out because of the COVID-19 virus.

There are so many people here in my country that is caught doing illegal gambling, most of the time people just do this kind of action just because of money, In that scenario, the government could be involved since they are doing it in the casino itself or maybe they are just addicted in playing. Surely there are people that would risk it for gambling maybe they are addicted or something to do something like this.

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Quote from: radjie on May 27, 2020, 08:13:38 PM

there are several groups of people who gamble secretly here, one of them is Toto Dark gambling, of course they ignore government regulations during this pandemic, they always secretly gather in one house but the action is pretty neat because people who come not simultaneously but one by one did not even make people suspicious, after I explored it turns out their activities at home like a normal life before covid-19 gathered together for coffee while doing buying and selling activities or put up numbers they would bet.

So at least, we know that some groups gamble secretly. I think they don't care about the prohibitions from the government because they still gamble in one secret place. I believe in other areas or country, many hidden places like that which the gambler can gather and gamble or talk about other things. But in these situations, they will be selective to invite people to come to their place because they don't want to risk the other gamblers.

There are always some people who play in an ordinary casino and underground casino. Still, some people play in both two types of casino, underground and regular casino. The rules will be there, and cannot catch that player who gambles in the underground casino.

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Quote from: radjie on May 27, 2020, 08:13:38 PM

there are several groups of people who gamble secretly here, one of them is Toto Dark gambling, of course they ignore government regulations during this pandemic, they always secretly gather in one house but the action is pretty neat because people who come not simultaneously but one by one did not even make people suspicious, after I explored it turns out their activities at home like a normal life before covid-19 gathered together for coffee while doing buying and selling activities or put up numbers they would bet.

They are doing good because there's no whistleblower and they already know each other for a long time, they should just add precautions by just doing the right thing like 1-meter physical distancing, washing their hands and disinfecting the things they've used, you cannot stop people from breaking their habit even on this pandemic.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 09:27:44 AM

A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.

- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!

In my place there are specific nationality who always disobey the law when it comes to gambling, I'm not against them because of their specific identity but on a time like this, they should follow such law since they are on an international soil well I believe our government knows this thing since they caught many underground gambling which is alarming in my place as well. Addict gamblers will always pay at their own ways even if they break the law, they will stay play.

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there are several groups of people who gamble secretly here, one of them is Toto Dark gambling, of course they ignore government regulations during this pandemic, they always secretly gather in one house but the action is pretty neat because people who come not simultaneously but one by one did not even make people suspicious, after I explored it turns out their activities at home like a normal life before covid-19 gathered together for coffee while doing buying and selling activities or put up numbers they would bet.

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Quote from: deisik on May 24, 2020, 05:05:08 PM

However, it doesn't necessarily entail a disclosure of your identity. There are many places where you can buy crypto anonymously. For example, peer-to-peer marketplaces are specifically designed to help you out with anonymous crypto purchases. On some of them you don't even need to register (thus you don't disclose any personal details), and your Bitcoin address is never revealed to the seller so any track of your coins gets lost there. The bottom line is that online casinos are more anonymous overall

It is not important whether someone can track the movement of your cryptocurrencies to an online casino. It is important here that a person needs to put money into an account to buy cryptocurrencies. And they will immediately become visible to the tax service

The money is already in your bank account

No one knows how you are going to spend it, to buy Bitcoin or something else. Let me guess you don't know how P2P marketplaces work. But let me lend you a helping hand here. The seller doesn't know the buyer, he just receives, say, a transfer to his payment card, while his coins from his account on a marketplace are debited. But he doesn't know where they go because, technically, he doesn't even know whether it is his coins or someone else's

You don't understand me. If a person does not want to show the state, the Bank or someone else that he has 5 thousand dollars, then he will not go to open a Bank account and put this money in the account

Do you describe a hypothetical situation or your own circumstances?

Since you are talking like a hardened criminal -- a drug dealer, money launderer, or something to that tune. If so, it is unclear what you are doing here. Cause if you were, you would stay miles away from both regulated casinos and cryptocurrencies (as well as bitcointalk, for the record). Regardless, this has nothing to do with the fact that gambling at online casinos with cryptocurrency is more anonymous than at regular ones with cash. If you are going to challenge this point, please stick to the point (pardon the pun)

Why do you call a criminal a person who does not want to carry money to a Bank account? I know a lot of people who don't trust banks and government agencies. There are countries where it is not safe to show how much money you have earned. Therefore, some people prefer to pay in cash everywhere without using plastic cards.
Once upon a time, it was not safe in my country to put a lot of money in a Bank account. Those days are over, but many people have kept their old habits and pay everywhere only in cash.

This also applies to casino games. Only cash and no Bank accounts.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 26, 2020, 06:54:33 PM

Quote from: deisik on May 25, 2020, 02:48:05 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 24, 2020, 05:48:48 PM

Quote from: deisik on May 24, 2020, 05:05:08 PM

However, it doesn't necessarily entail a disclosure of your identity. There are many places where you can buy crypto anonymously. For example, peer-to-peer marketplaces are specifically designed to help you out with anonymous crypto purchases. On some of them you don't even need to register (thus you don't disclose any personal details), and your Bitcoin address is never revealed to the seller so any track of your coins gets lost there. The bottom line is that online casinos are more anonymous overall

It is not important whether someone can track the movement of your cryptocurrencies to an online casino. It is important here that a person needs to put money into an account to buy cryptocurrencies. And they will immediately become visible to the tax service

The money is already in your bank account

No one knows how you are going to spend it, to buy Bitcoin or something else. Let me guess you don't know how P2P marketplaces work. But let me lend you a helping hand here. The seller doesn't know the buyer, he just receives, say, a transfer to his payment card, while his coins from his account on a marketplace are debited. But he doesn't know where they go because, technically, he doesn't even know whether it is his coins or someone else's

You don't understand me. If a person does not want to show the state, the Bank or someone else that he has 5 thousand dollars, then he will not go to open a Bank account and put this money in the account

Do you describe a hypothetical situation or your own circumstances?

Since you are talking like a hardened criminal -- a drug dealer, money launderer, or something to that tune. If so, it is unclear what you are doing here. Cause if you were, you would stay miles away from both regulated casinos and cryptocurrencies (as well as bitcointalk, for the record). Regardless, this has nothing to do with the fact that gambling at online casinos with cryptocurrency is more anonymous than at regular ones with cash. If you are going to challenge this point, please stick to the point (pardon the pun)

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I guess they can't stand how boring it is in the house for a month(s) staying while doing the very unusual thing repeatedly for days.

It should be boring days, staying at home all time and can't go anywhere. Moreover, for people who often visit physical casinos. But we have no choices, staying at home is the best way to prevent Covid-19 spreads. Also, almost all physical casinos are closed temporarily. However, we must deal with this situation and be aware of the most priority thing. Just be patient and do everything at home!

This is uncertain times and no one was prepared for it . We have to face the situation and come as a winner. It is also time for us to do many new things which we never did and enjoy that and also learn new skills and develop some new hobbies or to find out our hidden talent . This will help us keep busy and time will fly quickly .

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Gambling is practiced in almost all countries but in many countries they keep it a secret because there is no support But I think it destroys the social environment The more money you make, the more you lose It becomes a kind of intoxication. Then people hit their families and even take part in this game Which disrupts the journey of ordinary life The trend of online gambling has increased a lot since everything that was shut down due to the epidemic sat in lockdown. It is much easier to make money if we can play properly.

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On countries where gambling is illegal, there are underground gambling, gamblers will always find a way under the very harsh condition and environment, it's their way to kill boredom and to make money, anything that will make you money in the easiest way people is going to do that, so it's not really surprising.

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Quote from: deisik on May 25, 2020, 02:48:05 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 24, 2020, 05:48:48 PM

Quote from: deisik on May 24, 2020, 05:05:08 PM

However, it doesn't necessarily entail a disclosure of your identity. There are many places where you can buy crypto anonymously. For example, peer-to-peer marketplaces are specifically designed to help you out with anonymous crypto purchases. On some of them you don't even need to register (thus you don't disclose any personal details), and your Bitcoin address is never revealed to the seller so any track of your coins gets lost there. The bottom line is that online casinos are more anonymous overall

It is not important whether someone can track the movement of your cryptocurrencies to an online casino. It is important here that a person needs to put money into an account to buy cryptocurrencies. And they will immediately become visible to the tax service

The money is already in your bank account

No one knows how you are going to spend it, to buy Bitcoin or something else. Let me guess you don't know how P2P marketplaces work. But let me lend you a helping hand here. The seller doesn't know the buyer, he just receives, say, a transfer to his payment card, while his coins from his account on a marketplace are debited. But he doesn't know where they go because, technically, he doesn't even know whether it is his coins or someone else's

You don't understand me. If a person does not want to show the state, the Bank or someone else that he has 5 thousand dollars, then he will not go to open a Bank account and put this money in the account. I know how P2P marketplaces work. You will not agree to sell me bitcoins and in return wait for receiving cash in an envelope)

Many people have Bank accounts. But not all people can afford to put all their income on the account. Because not all income taxes are paid.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on May 25, 2020, 09:24:00 AM

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But it's prohibited for the moment because of the pandemic, how come they have permission?

their casino has illegal permission from the government, since the pandemic is in effect, all physical casino casinos are closed to prevent wider viruses, not current licenses, the purpose of official permits for the owner and founder of gambling/places.
not now from the past.

Quote from: plvbob0070 on May 18, 2020, 07:37:12 AM

If that casino is really being backed up by higher officials, it means that there is a double standard. If it's a normal citizen, it's not allowed and they are violating the rules, but if it's the authorities, they are allowed? As if authorities can't be affected by the virus.

This is a big problem right now, by ignoring the rules and accepting in secret for those who bet on the table.

It is undeniable that most of them are respectable people and in view, the authoritarian system with the horns in power and those without the horns is destroyed.
I feel annoyed with their actions, as if...! because people are prohibited from going out and doing their activities, the people themselves smuggle at night, they think they are getting away with the law, very ironic.

These kinds of people what I really hate. Even in my country, there are people like that. Just because they are a government official and have the authority, they think it's okay for them to violate the law. It's really ironic because they are the ones making the ordinance, and supposed to make everyone follow it but they are the ones disobeying it. They are not an exemption to the law

Let me say that I agree with you

But could we really expect anything else deep down? If you have the power to make laws and then enforce them, you are not obliged by them, technically speaking. For example, if you could manipulate the laws of nature, like gravity or whatever, you would be in no way bound by them, other than of your own accord. It is not particularly different with laws humans make. Those who make the laws are not inherently bound by them, whether we like it or not, as they can always change them if it comes to that

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