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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 22, 2020, 04:06:28 PM
#115
Quote from: semobo on May 22, 2020, 12:29:57 PM
Underground casinos have no name and no owner as legal so if there is any dispute then it is impossible to resolve there and also if it not under any regulations we can't get fairness on results as well so people should not gamble at all on such place at any circumstances.If they are unable to control their urge then they can simply gamble online. Roll Eyes

One of the cons when you do deal up with these illegal places on where you cant be assured if those would be fair or not but somewhat as a gambler you can eventually tell or feel up when somethings goes wrong or isnt right.Pretty sure that there are underground places that do operate now because there would be always a demand specially to those players who do actively go to gambling places and of course you will surely mind of on creating underneath and benefit out on peoples addiction.

Just let them be if they do ignore out and neglect rules amidst on a pandemic situation.Just be sure that they wont regret out neither they would be get caught by the authority or would simply
catch up the virus. Their call!
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 22, 2020, 01:14:01 PM
#114
Quote from: FontSeli on May 21, 2020, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: skarais on May 21, 2020, 01:00:30 PM
Quote from: Ryker1 on May 21, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.

There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions

I don't think gamblers belong to this group

You essentially assume that protesting is about violating the established ban or something to that tune. But this is not always the case. If you disagree with a certain law, you can protest in a lot of ways without necessarily breaking it. Such a form of disagreement makes sense only when everyone and his dog and his grandma (read the majority of population) are violating the law together. Then the law is repealed while the ban lifted. However, we are far from that anywhere across the globe, at least as far as the current quarantine is concerned
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 22, 2020, 12:29:57 PM
#113
Underground casinos have no name and no owner as legal so if there is any dispute then it is impossible to resolve there and also if it not under any regulations we can't get fairness on results as well so people should not gamble at all on such place at any circumstances.If they are unable to control their urge then they can simply gamble online. Roll Eyes
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 22, 2020, 12:02:13 PM
#112
Quote from: skarais on May 21, 2020, 01:00:30 PM
Quote from: Ryker1 on May 21, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

^ There is no guarantee that player's wallets in bitcoin casinos are secure for hackers nowadays are more aggressive and wise that they will make impossible things possible just for them to steal anything or everything that has value. It is a good sign that people who previously dismissed the idea of bitcoin are now returning and start to invest again that only shows how steady and stable the bitcoin now, in fact, it can also serve as a good promotion if these people would even testify that once they dumped bitcoin and now they believe or trust in bitcoin was built again. Nevertheless, I really hope that all casinos will use blockchain technology for transparency because of its good cause for it will make more people build their trust in bitcoin as well.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 22, 2020, 09:43:26 AM
#111
Quote from: FontSeli on May 21, 2020, 06:41:59 PM
There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.
They just want to justify their wrong doings, they are not prevented to gambling if its not illegal in their country, what the government are only doing is for the safety of the people, they want to prevent people from spreading the virus, so gambling is not allowed when it needs physical appearance to a certain place or venue. Maybe it's time they will learn online gambling, maybe hard at the beginning but they'll eventually love it, and its safer, you don't violate a law doing online gambling.


Quote from: FontSeli on May 21, 2020, 06:41:59 PM
Also for a person there may be an additional adrenaline rush from gambling where it is currently prohibited.
I would understand this.

Quote from: FontSeli on May 21, 2020, 06:41:59 PM
It's like sex in a public place)

BUT THIS ONE IS GROSS>  Tongue
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 07:18:09 PM
#110

Local officials on their backs protecting the people behind the underground casinos seem making the casino legit already. And with that nothing will stop the people from going. With the covid that made these people jobless, all the more they are going to try to gamble to make money if they are lucky.

Quote from: FontSeli on May 21, 2020, 06:41:59 PM
Quote from: skarais on May 21, 2020, 01:00:30 PM
Quote from: Ryker1 on May 21, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.

There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.

Also for a person there may be an additional adrenaline rush from gambling where it is currently prohibited. It's like sex in a public place)

Ah I now know the feeling lol It gets exciting to have sex in the public place and I guess it could be worth risking doing it like a dog in heat.



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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 06:41:59 PM
#109
Quote from: skarais on May 21, 2020, 01:00:30 PM
Quote from: Ryker1 on May 21, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.

There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.

Also for a person there may be an additional adrenaline rush from gambling where it is currently prohibited. It's like sex in a public place)
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 01:00:30 PM
#108
Quote from: Ryker1 on May 21, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules
The rule are made to be followed together and anyone caught red-handed will have consequences.

Understanding the current pandemic situation is something that must be done by everyone especially if the government has issued a ban. Forcing a willingness to go out and gather in the gambling arena is something that is not expected by everyone because it is very dangerous. Besides being able to endanger yourself, then careless actions like this can endanger family, friends and other people in the community. So there is no point in imposing desires if we have to sacrifice others just because of careless actions.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 12:37:40 PM
#107
Quote from: Darker45 on May 20, 2020, 11:30:51 PM
Precisely! Gambling activities are ordered to cease operations not on bases pertaining to gambling itself but because gatherings are not allowed. So if people are gathering at anybody's house during these pandemic days, that is not allowed

Can you please post the link to the text of the order in question?

Just in case, I was writing about public gatherings, i.e. not meeting someone in private. Does visiting a grocery store count as a public gathering if there are other people over there? I think it does. Does visiting your grandma count as such? I guess it doesn't. However you may look at it and whatever regulation you may come up with, this is not a public gathering. But if it is not, and gambling, or, more specifically, gambling on private premises, is not prohibited, can you legally and legitimately stop people from enjoying this activity?

Quote from: Darker45 on May 20, 2020, 11:30:51 PM
If they are gathering for illegal gambling, then they will be prosecuted both on grounds relating to illegal gambling and on the quarantine laws

That's the exact reason why we should distinguish between illegal gambling and gambling made illegal due to the quarantine laws limiting public gatherings
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 12:21:02 PM
#106
Quote from: smyslov on May 20, 2020, 09:11:42 PM
I'm surprised that your government is not implementing strict measures when they should I check the status of COVID 10 in your country and your country has a very high infections although the number of death is very low and recovery is good, could be much better if the government has implemented a lock down

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/
Well, because the government has it's own implemented rules, gambling in my place but not the legal once, most of the people here in my place consider this lockdown or quarantine as a vacation that they can do whatever they want like gambling in anytime they please though. It is also not allowed by the government they can still find ways on how they can gamble without being caught just to reduce the boredom and mingle with friends. These people don't even do any safety measures such as wearing face masks or doing social distancing they just tend to close the area for them not to become visible by the authorities. I know some legal and physical casinos as a friend told me but I never tried dropping by or spend a minute inside for it may only cause problems once we get caught on the spot and inside the casino.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 06:47:47 AM
#105
Quote from: KrisAlex18 on May 21, 2020, 06:27:43 AM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 17, 2020, 10:51:59 AM
I did and mostly the most common one is cockfighting and most traditional gambling since there aren't any land-based casinos here. Even if there are restrictions to it those gamblers gonna break rules just to get what they really wanted but I think with strict restrictions and high charges who breaks it makes them lie low and conducting regular operations to arrest them.
Gambler doesn't mind the consequences of what they are doing, they know the possibility of having a risk of gambling and the possibility of being arrested when they had caught by authorities but they don't mind it.

Because they know they will not get reported since people are afraid to get into the trouble if they find out that they are the one who reported the illegalities in normal days, things are different when there's a pandemic since I've seen so many illegal gamblers got caught by the authorities and been fine for huge bail.

But if we talk about online well we all know that its hard to track the gamblers so no matter what people who indulge on this will keep playing since they know they are safe playing at home.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 06:27:43 AM
#104
There are still some people who just ignore the rules of ou government, they don't know the risk of going outside just to gamble. In casino gambling, they will tend to play next in line even though they are wearing gloves and mask it is still dangerous, they are still prone to spreading the virus to each other. I don't know why those gambler doing such things like that, is that what gamble addict does?

That is why I limit myself from gambling, I don't want to be an addict on it someday so I don't play often, I just play whenever I am with my friends.
Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 17, 2020, 10:51:59 AM
I did and mostly the most common one is cockfighting and most traditional gambling since there aren't any land-based casinos here. Even if there are restrictions to it those gamblers gonna break rules just to get what they really wanted but I think with strict restrictions and high charges who breaks it makes them lie low and conducting regular operations to arrest them.
Gambler doesn't mind the consequences of what they are doing, they know the possibility of having a risk of gambling and the possibility of being arrested when they had caught by authorities but they don't mind it.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 06:15:41 AM
#103
Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 20, 2020, 07:56:26 PM
Quote from: FontSeli on May 20, 2020, 07:30:42 PM
I live in the Republic of Belarus. We have everything open. You can go to any bars and casinos. Of course, the attendance of these institutions has fallen significantly because people themselves do not want to take risks. However, we do not have a legal ban on the operation of these places.

We didn't even stop the football championship! I think many people know this because it has become popular in the world.
Slutsk forward!

Maybe that's the reason why you have high infection cases as you have a lot of establishments open. It is good that people are already doing their own precautions by not going to crowded places. I hope your government realized how dangerous it is to continue that kind of setting.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/

Quote from: smyslov on May 20, 2020, 09:11:42 PM
I'm surprised that your government is not implementing strict measures when they should I check the status of COVID 10 in your country and your country has a very high infections although the number of death is very low and recovery is good, could be much better if the government has implemented a lock down

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/

I'm a little familiar with the statistics on those who got sick and died during seasonal epidemics of common flu. The numbers are almost identical. Perhaps this is why our President did not order the use of restrictive measures. This is why casinos and other establishments operate and people are free to make decisions about isolation themselves.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 04:01:31 AM
#102
Quote from: adzino on May 20, 2020, 08:10:36 PM
You broke the rule too. You entered the casino,
It looks like you should check my topic replies a bit with questions similar to yours: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5249137.60

This is where people can judge about you that you are only chasing weekly posts, without investigating replies to the contents of the topic questions, Lol.

Very quickly you say I "broke the rules" you do not know the point of the problem, immediately said, you are strange.
For the future, check the conversation of others, you just post and draw conclusions.

don't jump right in... and spray, ridiculous.


And here are the results that have been completed at this time: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54467837
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 02:41:00 AM
#101
Quote from: Nellayar on May 20, 2020, 11:29:45 PM
Quote from: adzino on May 20, 2020, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 AM
A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.

- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!
You broke the rule too. You entered the casino, while your government ordered you not to do so. How are you so different from "that" person? "That" person and the others can also claim that they just wanted to know what was happening inside.
Instead of going inside, you could have just informed the authorities. They would have taken the appropriate steps. You just risked yourself entering the casino.
Let me restate what OP said, " last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time"

I never saw any word "entered". Yes, he passed that time but he doesn't entered in casino. Please read carefully the verb used so that, you won't misinterpreted. Just a friendly advise.  Smiley

Great explanation so maybe he understand the word since its so different, It can create confusion if the reader didn't read it carefully that's why someone miss judge the situation.


Anyways @OP First you need to know if the Casino's got a clearance to operate given by government since if they comply on the government orders for sure there's no any problem with that, Also for sure the casino in your placed follow the protocol since they wear mask and gloves as you said it.

But if you find any illegalities which can contribute badly to the current situation better to report it to proper authority so that they can do a counter action regarding on this thing. lock downs will never ends if there's hard headed persons will not follow and disobey the law.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 21, 2020, 01:07:34 AM
#100
Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 AM
A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.
first question is what are you doing outside that late time?and arent you being arrested by not following the quarantine law?

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Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.
starting to operate at 00 time?so meaning they are really hiding the operation?for gamblers specially for the addicted one this is very thrilling and exciting as they are going against the law and this brings them satisfactions things that illegal works will desire and choose to do but i hope you wont go with them OP because i believe that you are responsible person.
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they all use masks and gloves.[/b]
Gloves wont save them right mate because the truth is using gloves without proper knowledge will only helps you spread the virus not awaring of it.
so better use alcohol time after time than wearing gloves.
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- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!
there are some news that abusing the situation is happening in some community but me?i never go out from 7pm since the lockdown happens more than 2 months ago.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 20, 2020, 11:30:51 PM
#99
Quote from: deisik on May 20, 2020, 06:44:33 AM
Quote from: Darker45 on May 20, 2020, 04:31:32 AM
Gambling is going on in my place as well, although mostly in the most concealed of places. Around my neighborhood, some gamblers are still meeting up every once in a while in one of their homes. I have also mentioned here that avid cockfighting fans are also caught holding matches at a building rooftop, at a hidden cemetery corner, and so on

Well, that remains to be seen

I think we should distinguish between illegal activities no matter the circumstances from illegal ones which are made illegal according to temporary regulations. For example, cockfighting can be outright illegal in certain jurisdictions, and for good reasons so. However, casino gambling can be made illegal in circumstances like these, which are temporary in nature

There's no point distinguishing when all kinds of land-based gambling operations are prohibited, regardless of whether you have a license or not. There is a blanket order to halt all kinds of gambling events.

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It is not so much gambling itself that is illegal but rather gatherings at public places. So if a group of people does something not illegal per se at someone's home, how can it be considered a violation of law and which law exactly? Curfew, quarantine? Then, are you going to report on the people visiting their relatives, friends, and neighbors?

Precisely! Gambling activities are ordered to cease operations not on bases pertaining to gambling itself but because gatherings are not allowed. So if people are gathering at anybody's house during these pandemic days, that is not allowed. People casually visiting their friends, neighbors, families, sweethearts, and so on is not allowed. Whether there is a special occasion such as birthday, wedding anniversary, and even a wake does not matter. Gatherings are not allowed.

If they are gathering for illegal gambling, then they will be prosecuted both on grounds relating to illegal gambling and on the quarantine laws.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 20, 2020, 11:29:45 PM
#98
Quote from: adzino on May 20, 2020, 08:10:36 PM
Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 AM
A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.

- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!
You broke the rule too. You entered the casino, while your government ordered you not to do so. How are you so different from "that" person? "That" person and the others can also claim that they just wanted to know what was happening inside.
Instead of going inside, you could have just informed the authorities. They would have taken the appropriate steps. You just risked yourself entering the casino.
Let me restate what OP said, " last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time"

I never saw any word "entered". Yes, he passed that time but he doesn't entered in casino. Please read carefully the verb used so that, you won't misinterpreted. Just a friendly advise.  Smiley
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 20, 2020, 09:32:30 PM
#97
Quote from: Twinkledoe on May 20, 2020, 07:56:26 PM

Maybe that's the reason why you have high infection cases as you have a lot of establishments open. It is good that people are already doing their own precautions by not going to crowded places. I hope your government realized how dangerous it is to continue that kind of setting.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/

Every government has its own guidelines, Sweden also goes to the other direction by not implementing a lockdown and look they are doing fine, I guess it's all about if the people are educated enough on how to protect themselves, they cannot have the government watched all their moves and actions, the citizen should also contribute to making the infection to its low level while we are waiting for the cure.
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Re: Gambling hiding, rules ignored.
May 20, 2020, 09:23:41 PM
#96
Quote from: smyslov on May 20, 2020, 09:11:42 PM
Quote from: FontSeli on May 20, 2020, 07:30:42 PM
I live in the Republic of Belarus. We have everything open. You can go to any bars and casinos. Of course, the attendance of these institutions has fallen significantly because people themselves do not want to take risks. However, we do not have a legal ban on the operation of these places.

We didn't even stop the football championship! I think many people know this because it has become popular in the world.
Slutsk forward!

I'm surprised that your government is not implementing strict measures when they should I check the status of COVID 10 in your country and your country has a very high infections although the number of death is very low and recovery is good, could be much better if the government has implemented a lock down

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/belarus/

32,426 and yet everything seems to look normal,... maybe their government value more their economy than the safety of the people.
In other countries where cases are lower, they are even imposing a very strict measures, what they are doing is prevention because that is the only strategy now knowing that the vaccine is not yet out for distribution and we even didn't know if they already find the formula to create a vaccine.
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