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Quote from: Onuohakk on May 24, 2020, 04:51:50 AM

That's what happens when someone gets addicted to something he has no control over. They are ready to risk it all, just to satisfy their urge in spite of government orders. That's what addictions cause, it pushes you to go against your own wile and that of others without reasoning the consequences or implications

Don't agree! Some people do what they like to do, yes there are rules and regulations, but some people like to break them often. So what? Do you believe in freedom? Do you think you are free? Some people ignored stupid rules, they risked, they are brave enough to risk (or stupid). Why to call them addicted gamblers when we don't know anything about them except they broke few rules.
I think that this thing with this virus is way exaggerated, I would let people do what they do, of course we should be careful and we all need to wash our hands and not cough in others, if you are sick stay home, but lock down and quarantine for all is madness. A question : Can we expect lock down and quarantine for every new virus?

That is not the problem, if you do not comply with government regulations on quarantine, it is very possible that the spread of this virus will continue to grow without any reduction. Well, assume you are healthy and not affected by the virus, but when you continue to do activities that are crowded or involve many people unknowingly you will be exposed to this virus. This virus was even recorded several times, it could be started without any symptoms and that was the information and news that I got when they continued to swarm in the market or other places. So, in this case it is not wrong for you to prioritize government rules because the rules are also to break the spread of the virus itself, if you keep doing what you like then this epidemic will continue to exist and the world will be destroyed just because of the virus, that's ridiculous.

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Quote from: Onuohakk on May 24, 2020, 04:51:50 AM

That's what happens when someone gets addicted to something he has no control over. They are ready to risk it all, just to satisfy their urge in spite of government orders. That's what addictions cause, it pushes you to go against your own wile and that of others without reasoning the consequences or implications

There's no help with that but that only guy can.

Addiction can make you go beyond the borders even though you're not allowed to get in and that's already your limitation. And for others that's thinking why that guy don't just gamble online. We don't know the reason and that guy might prefer to go physically to the casino.

He might like the live action instead of online interaction, we have no idea.

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Quote from: Yamifoud on May 23, 2020, 06:01:11 PM

No matter how strict the government implementing such a rule in closing casinos, definitely, gamblers will find away. The worst case is that, some government officials are also the ones who in the casino that is why people are confident enough that they won't get caught by the police or any implementing body.

Wow, that's new to me, so you are saying that this government officials are corrupt that its okay for them to break the law since they work with the government, if our government officials are corrupt like that, let us not expect our country will progress.

Quote from: Yamifoud on May 23, 2020, 06:01:11 PM

But you/me, as we care about ourselves and dealing with the virus seriously we already know what could possible to happen. And to know that their doing is against the pandemic rule, it's just us to help it and report to the authorities. We don't need to be silent and we have to think the safety for everyone.

I care more about the virus as I don't want to risk my life, so I would never gamble at this time//

no vaccine, no gambling.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 24, 2020, 07:00:50 AM

Quote from: deisik on May 23, 2020, 05:48:08 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 22, 2020, 05:51:51 PM

There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino

Online casinos are definitely better in this regard

With traditional ones you would openly reveal your earnings to the world as your mug will get caught on camera countless number of times, while your winnings (as well as losses, for that matter) will make it into the casino's books to check for authorities if need be. And I'm not sure you can visit a law-abiding land-based gambling institution without fully disclosing your identity, either. Protecting your privacy and the anonymity of your money when playing online is a breeze, and it is basically for this reason you can kiss your shekels goodbye if an online casino pulls off an exit scam at the end of the day. Let's call it the other five sides of a die

In a normal casino, there are cameras that record the faces of players in the room. However, they only provide these records for official requests from law enforcement agencies. The casinos themselves do not carry all video recordings to the tax service

That would be an obvious overkill

At least as long as you are required to disclose your identity before entering the premises. So can you, or anyone else, for that matter, confirm or refute the assumption that you are required to reveal your identity whenever you are going to visit a casino? I don't mean underground casinos but more like regular and regulated places as in Las Vegas or Monte Carlo? If you have to, then you can safely forget about your anonymity as well as the anonymity of your money (even if you play for cash)

Quote from: FontSeli on May 24, 2020, 07:00:50 AM

There is a major problem with online casinos. How do I top up my online account?

Aren't online casinos supposed to accept mostly crypto?

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Quote from: deisik on May 23, 2020, 05:48:08 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 22, 2020, 05:51:51 PM

There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino

Online casinos are definitely better in this regard

With traditional ones you would openly reveal your earnings to the world as your mug will get caught on camera countless number of times, while your winnings (as well as losses, for that matter) will make it into the casino's books to check for authorities if need be. And I'm not sure you can visit a law-abiding land-based gambling institution without fully disclosing your identity, either. Protecting your privacy and the anonymity of your money when playing online is a breeze, and it is basically for this reason you can kiss your shekels goodbye if an online casino pulls off an exit scam at the end of the day. Let's call it the other five sides of a die

In a normal casino, there are cameras that record the faces of players in the room. However, they only provide these records for official requests from law enforcement agencies. The casinos themselves do not carry all video recordings to the tax service.
There is a major problem with online casinos. How do I top up my online account? I only have cash. I don't want to issue plastic cards and transfer money to them. After all, it is much easier to track a Bank account than at which casinos I played in order to withdraw videos of me from them.

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Quote from: Onuohakk on May 24, 2020, 04:51:50 AM

That's what happens when someone gets addicted to something he has no control over. They are ready to risk it all, just to satisfy their urge in spite of government orders. That's what addictions cause, it pushes you to go against your own wile and that of others without reasoning the consequences or implications

Don't agree! Some people do what they like to do, yes there are rules and regulations, but some people like to break them often. So what? Do you believe in freedom? Do you think you are free? Some people ignored stupid rules, they risked, they are brave enough to risk (or stupid). Why to call them addicted gamblers when we don't know anything about them except they broke few rules.
I think that this thing with this virus is way exaggerated, I would let people do what they do, of course we should be careful and we all need to wash our hands and not cough in others, if you are sick stay home, but lock down and quarantine for all is madness. A question : Can we expect lock down and quarantine for every new virus?

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That's what happens when someone gets addicted to something he has no control over. They are ready to risk it all, just to satisfy their urge in spite of government orders. That's what addictions cause, it pushes you to go against your own wile and that of others without reasoning the consequences or implications

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Why don't they find alternative in online casinos. Or try to use the Zoom app to enjoy bonding with their gambling friends while playing. They already know that it is risky to spend time in physical casino yet, they still pursue and break the rules how rude they are.

I am actually proud of myself that I can control my betting games, I haven't bet too much and I mostly try online casino but not really putting myself in. I am not afraid of getting gambling addict, I just think of the things I should prioritize and spend more portion of my fund just like right now, instead of spending too much in gambling. Why not consider buying extra goods and necessities? Or maybe these people does really have tons of cash to spend in gambling.

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Quote from: pixie85 on May 23, 2020, 05:47:59 PM

Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 18, 2020, 01:48:30 AM

Quote from: pixie85 on May 17, 2020, 02:58:46 PM

So you guys always obey the rules of your government? Is that it?

How come the government banned people from entering casinos but did not shut down casinos and allowed them to operate? If a casino is open you can expect people to go there. The rules should not forbid people from playing but casinos from being open.

I'm seeing a law breaker, that's how I put on how you reply this thread, am I right? What's the harm obeying rules imposed by your government?

People know that casinos should be closed by now and if there's no announcement from the government to operate they shouldn't have entered, so they are at fault too. Rules goes for both not just for one entity.

I don't see obeying as harmful, but if I don't see a point in something I don't do it.

Yes we could say that I'm a lawbreaker but there's a saying that rules are meant to be broken, is there not?

The rules for the current situation change every month. If they one day say that you have to wear an oxygen mask every time you go out are you going to buy one and cary a tank on your back? Cheesy

Rules made by government arent really that bad for us because they do need to control of the people into their vicinity just for the sake of their safety but there are really people who are really hard headed which do really try to break out the rule just for the sake of their addiction
or do things on what is into their minds.

Basing of on what you exampled above it do likes you do really love to follow rules (*sarcasm*).

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No matter how strict the government implementing such a rule in closing casinos, definitely, gamblers will find away. The worst case is that, some government officials are also the ones who in the casino that is why people are confident enough that they won't get caught by the police or any implementing body.
But you/me, as we care about ourselves and dealing with the virus seriously we already know what could possible to happen. And to know that their doing is against the pandemic rule, it's just us to help it and report to the authorities. We don't need to be silent and we have to think the safety for everyone.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on May 18, 2020, 01:48:30 AM

Quote from: pixie85 on May 17, 2020, 02:58:46 PM

So you guys always obey the rules of your government? Is that it?

How come the government banned people from entering casinos but did not shut down casinos and allowed them to operate? If a casino is open you can expect people to go there. The rules should not forbid people from playing but casinos from being open.

I'm seeing a law breaker, that's how I put on how you reply this thread, am I right? What's the harm obeying rules imposed by your government?

People know that casinos should be closed by now and if there's no announcement from the government to operate they shouldn't have entered, so they are at fault too. Rules goes for both not just for one entity.

I don't see obeying as harmful, but if I don't see a point in something I don't do it.

Yes we could say that I'm a lawbreaker but there's a saying that rules are meant to be broken, is there not?

The rules for the current situation change every month. If they one day say that you have to wear an oxygen mask every time you go out are you going to buy one and cary a tank on your back? Cheesy

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Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 AM

A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.

- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!

While reading I am not surprised. All that comes to my mind is that "it's normal for me". In our barangay back in our province, my mother told me that my uncle used to gamble during day time by playing mahjong with the Barangay Councilors and they are hiding somewhere out there during this quarantine period. Almost everyday my uncle leave their house and just play.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 AM

A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.

- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!

and the saddest and infuriating part about the local underground casino here in the Philippines(they consist of local people i.e. neighbours etc..) is that there are gamblers who play there that use the cash assistance given by the government to gamble which should have been given to the families who desperately need them. bit only that they don't use proper social distancing or any protection.

I don't think so. Most of the gamblers in underground casino are rich Filipino businessman and other foreigner who has business here. I believe only few poor people playing in casino especially those who received assistance from government. It's only very minimal to see poor people in casino. Maybe you just pertaining on the low baller gambling like pusoy and cockfighting which is the usual gambling of Filipino. Unless the definition of your underground casino are those on burial of someone then you are right.

a gambling place(or pasugalan) that has no licence is illegal and can be considered as an underground casino/gambling place. and yeah it is a little saddening that gambling during funeral wakes is now illegal I had a lot of fun(also sad) memories going to funeral wakes of friends and relatives to pay respect to the dead and also gamble to at least give money assistance to the family for giving a commission from every game or winnings.

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Quote from: Eugenar on May 23, 2020, 06:55:14 AM

I think this only happens fo such big persons including some authorities, governments, etc. As we all know some gambling casino are handled by some government so in order for them to still earn money with this pandemic virus they are still open the casino gambling, which is really not a good idea for me, there would be a high of risk spreading on the casino gambling if they are gambling, of course as we all know gambling could be crowded at any time and they are next in line with each other, some would not follow the social distancing because they only want to gamble and don't mind some risk of doing it.

The government will allow the casino to start operating but it will not be secretly done, government are suppose to be transparent, they created the law and they implement it, so if it's really coming from the government, they don't need to hide it. Tax is a public thing, the public are aware of it and we know how much the government have collected from certain businesses including casinos of course, so no government that is not corrupt who would do these things, otherwise those agency that monitor it might be at risk of getting sued.

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Quote from: acroman08 on May 23, 2020, 06:47:14 AM

Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 AM

A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.

- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!

and the saddest and infuriating part about the local underground casino here in the Philippines(they consist of local people i.e. neighbours etc..) is that there are gamblers who play there that use the cash assistance given by the government to gamble which should have been given to the families who desperately need them. bit only that they don't use proper social distancing or any protection.

I don't think so. Most of the gamblers in underground casino are rich Filipino businessman and other foreigner who has business here. I believe only few poor people playing in casino especially those who received assistance from government. It's only very minimal to see poor people in casino. Maybe you just pertaining on the low baller gambling like pusoy and cockfighting which is the usual gambling of Filipino. Unless the definition of your underground casino are those on burial of someone then you are right.

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I think this only happens fo such big persons including some authorities, governments, etc. As we all know some gambling casino are handled by some government so in order for them to still earn money with this pandemic virus they are still open the casino gambling, which is really not a good idea for me, there would be a high of risk spreading on the casino gambling if they are gambling, of course as we all know gambling could be crowded at any time and they are next in line with each other, some would not follow the social distancing because they only want to gamble and don't mind some risk of doing it.

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Quote from: YOSHIE on May 17, 2020, 10:27:44 AM

A little story in my place of residence, last night I went out around 00, time in my country, and I passed a casino place that during this time, there were rules from the government while all land casinos were closed to prevent covid-19 outbreaks, allcountries have that rule, maybe.

Strangely, the hour to 01 (night), I saw one by one people continue to arrive and enter the casino building, finally I also went in to see what was done by that person, at the end of the story the person put up a bet and gambled.
That's what gambling addicts do, even though the government forbids people from visiting casinos, however, ignoring them, in their minds betting and gambling, ignoring the rules.

note:
they all use masks and gloves.

- And how in your country, did you find something similar like I found...!
- Is this the only thing I have met in my country...!
- Did you all find the same thing...!

and the saddest and infuriating part about the local underground casino here in the Philippines(they consist of local people i.e. neighbours etc..) is that there are gamblers who play there that use the cash assistance given by the government to gamble which should have been given to the families who desperately need them. bit only that they don't use proper social distancing or any protection.

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 22, 2020, 05:51:51 PM

There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino

Online casinos are definitely better in this regard

With traditional ones you would openly reveal your earnings to the world as your mug will get caught on camera countless number of times, while your winnings (as well as losses, for that matter) will make it into the casino's books to check for authorities if need be. And I'm not sure you can visit a law-abiding land-based gambling institution without fully disclosing your identity, either. Protecting your privacy and the anonymity of your money when playing online is a breeze, and it is basically for this reason you can kiss your shekels goodbye if an online casino pulls off an exit scam at the end of the day. Let's call it the other five sides of a die

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Quote from: FontSeli on May 22, 2020, 05:51:51 PM

Many people simply do not trust online casinos.

Casino is pretty much on the dark side of the world and some ( probably most ) country forbid gambling therefore once a site scam there is nothing that you can do about it anymore. Different thing with real casino, if it exist in a country that means there are some law protecting those gambler from being scammed by the casino as well

Quote from: FontSeli on May 22, 2020, 05:51:51 PM

There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino. Some people just like to go to the casino with their friends.

In fact if you gamble online, no one will be able to know how much have you won compared to going to a real casino However alot more people do enjoy playing in companion in real casino

All aside that, there are tons of people still gamble casually in my country like there is no covid19 in here at all lol

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Quote from: Kasabus on May 22, 2020, 09:43:26 AM

Quote from: FontSeli on May 21, 2020, 06:41:59 PM

There are people who see that the established security measures are excessive. And they are thus protesting against the prohibitions.

They just want to justify their wrong doings, they are not prevented to gambling if its not illegal in their country, what the government are only doing is for the safety of the people, they want to prevent people from spreading the virus, so gambling is not allowed when it needs physical appearance to a certain place or venue. Maybe it's time they will learn online gambling, maybe hard at the beginning but they'll eventually love it, and its safer, you don't violate a law doing online gambling.

You probably won't believe it, but not all people want and can use the Internet. Many people simply do not trust online casinos.
There are also those who do not want to show their earnings and therefore they play for cash, which is impossible to do in an online casino. Some people just like to go to the casino with their friends.

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