I believe that this has to do with the fact that our country (the Philippines) is a hypocritically conservative of a country, what I mean by that is that most people in the country including the ruling class have a selective values and Christian morals that they're being used.
Another reason that I believe why this is a thing here is probably because the government don't want you to be competing with them when it comes to gambling business, that's the reason why they've got so much lottery outlets especially in poor neighborhoods is because gambling business is so profitable that they can't afford to have a competition but since they can't outright ban businessmen from making their own gambling business since doing so would make them a hypocrite all over again, they do the oppression as subtle as possible, and they do that by using that law that you've mentioned, with less people knowing about gambling and those businesses, the smaller the option is, which means that they're going to be able to see only the ones that are promoted by the government.
The second reason why I think that they're doing this is just a conspiracy theory of mine, might make sense to me but not to everyone as there's probably holes in my theory that might refute it though.
Topic: Gambling Is Legal In Our Country But if You Promote It Online You'll Go To Jail? - page 6. (Read 1535 times)
March 16, 2024, 09:50:45 PM
March 16, 2024, 07:12:01 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Probably it's because of the influencers promoting gambling. They have many followers idolizing them especially the minors who are already exposed in social media. Many of these popular personality are now promoting gambling which is not really a good influence to many. Thus, it's not surprising if the Government will prohibit gambling promotions online.So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Although it seems not fair since there are also physical gambling (like lotteries) wherein many people are exposed regardless of the age thus there's no difference really.
March 16, 2024, 06:41:40 PM
The rules OP mentioned, sound very contradictory. Because how could it not be... on the one hand, the country legalizes gambling, with many lottery outlets and places for betting on horse racing, but on the other hand, the country also threatens every gambler with fines and imprisonment for individuals who post or talk about gambling. . And this raises the question of whether gambling in this country is actually legal or not, because regulations like this will not only restrain lottery outlet owners but also their fans. Although I understand quite well, that this rule was deliberately created with the aim of controlling gambling activities carried out by the public, in order to anticipate the negative impacts of gambling. However, it seems that it would be better if regarding regulations, fines and penalties, this could be reviewed again and an evaluation carried out so that the right balance between regulation and freedom of speech can be ensured.
March 16, 2024, 06:34:18 PM
This is a selfish rule
If the government wants to restrict gambling, they should do so completely and not let the existing businesses (casinos and other gambling companies) suffer because of no promotional activities and advertisements online and we know online promotion is one fast means of reaching a wider audience/customers. This is a greedy attempt on the side of the government, they clearly don't like gambling yet they legalise it so they can receive revenue from these gambling companies. It will only be fair if the government monitors online gambling promotions instead and place restrictions on certain promotional contents, including some channels used to promote such contents.
I think the government behaved like this since they just want to protect the welfare of their citizens not to fall into gambling addiction most particularly for minors who don’t have sufficient knowledge when it comes to gambling. Social media has become so influential these days and that even a single post about gambling can possibly attract thousands of aspiring gamblers. Gambling should be done in moderation, but if those gamblers who have winning history in gambling will continue to post positive views about gambling, and the government will not prohibit them from doing, then it’s as good to think that the government is allowing its citizens to fall eventually into gambling addiction.If the government wants to restrict gambling, they should do so completely and not let the existing businesses (casinos and other gambling companies) suffer because of no promotional activities and advertisements online and we know online promotion is one fast means of reaching a wider audience/customers. This is a greedy attempt on the side of the government, they clearly don't like gambling yet they legalise it so they can receive revenue from these gambling companies. It will only be fair if the government monitors online gambling promotions instead and place restrictions on certain promotional contents, including some channels used to promote such contents.
Hence, proper rules and regulations should still be exercised when it comes to gambling, regardless of the fact that gambling is recognized and legalized in the country.
March 16, 2024, 06:08:39 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"
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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online contentit seems that the most target of this bill is for those influencers who will promote gambling in their contents. Because that's here in our country, usually when you watch videos via social media, you'll be surprised at the end of the video, there are a few minutes reserved for that in their promotion video, which for me is wrong. Why? Because there are content creators when the content is for younger people so that means there are minors watching it and then suddenly there will be gambling at the end? what will the minor think? that gambling is just a normal game, we know how curious and talented they are, maybe later they are not of legal age but they already know how to gamble. That's also why the house bill was passed because of the number of complaints. Because here in our country, there are more and more influencers who promote gambling because the online gambling sites offer a lot of money to the people who will promote it and of course because money is involve, the others have no choice but to accept it.
March 16, 2024, 04:17:36 PM
I agree with those kids exposed to online casinos. The promotion of casinos should be monitored, anyone shouldn't be allowed to just promote to all audiences. A law for this I guess is necessary.
I won’t say weird since it’s the same here in our region, where gambling lotto games are promoted normally on our national television channel, but they forbid you from promoting your winnings or opening casinos. The government is the only one who can promote and launch games for individuals to gamble. Otherwise, everything else is illegal.
This tells us that some governments are totally unaware of gambling games and the differences between one and another, also they intend ti benefit only their wallets instead of letting others to invest opening casinos or players to enjoy.
This tells us that some governments are totally unaware of gambling games and the differences between one and another, also they intend ti benefit only their wallets instead of letting others to invest opening casinos or players to enjoy.
It's not just about ads but the streamers online promoting these casinos are getting popular and their videos are shared because of the popularity of crypto. People are playing for the first time is increasing and their government is probably alarmed at the number of social media accounts reposting online casinos and trying to earn referral links.
March 16, 2024, 04:06:01 PM
I won’t say weird since it’s the same here in our region, where gambling lotto games are promoted normally on our national television channel, but they forbid you from promoting your winnings or opening casinos. The government is the only one who can promote and launch games for individuals to gamble. Otherwise, everything else is illegal.
This tells us that some governments are totally unaware of gambling games and the differences between one and another, also they intend ti benefit only their wallets instead of letting others to invest opening casinos or players to enjoy.
This tells us that some governments are totally unaware of gambling games and the differences between one and another, also they intend ti benefit only their wallets instead of letting others to invest opening casinos or players to enjoy.
March 16, 2024, 03:59:15 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
And what’s the reason for that? Since you are from the country, you should know the reason why the government places ban on gambling advertisements in your country, because I haven’t heard something like this before and it’s really surprising to me. How will you allow gambling in a country, but you decided to place ban on gambling advertisement, with a fine and risk being jailed, definitely their will be a reason for that, but any reason for it, it looks some how to me, and it doesn’t make any sense to me. If the government is against gambling, then they should just place ban on it, instead of giving strict rules, and I don’t know if you can mention the country which you are from, maybe I can just do more research about the reason for banning gambling advertisement.
they dont want to let those children do see those ads on TV on which it might be giving out that kind of potential addiction. They are allowing on something that not allowed to make ads
on which same as you said that it would really be that raising up those kind of questions in mind on how they do that. If this would be the law then no one on their right minds would really be that
trying out to oppose on what the government had been set. There's nothing we can do but to follow on what the rules or laws are. You can gamble and incase you do win the better keep it
on yourself rather than on putting up yourself on such trouble.
March 16, 2024, 03:54:27 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
And what’s the reason for that? Since you are from the country, you should know the reason why the government places ban on gambling advertisements in your country, because I haven’t heard something like this before and it’s really surprising to me. How will you allow gambling in a country, but you decided to place ban on gambling advertisement, with a fine and risk being jailed, definitely their will be a reason for that, but any reason for it, it looks some how to me, and it doesn’t make any sense to me. If the government is against gambling, then they should just place ban on it, instead of giving strict rules, and I don’t know if you can mention the country which you are from, maybe I can just do more research about the reason for banning gambling advertisement.
March 16, 2024, 03:25:40 PM
This is a little strange actually because if in the end the senate's goal as said in the article is to reduce or even make gambling nonexistent in the country then indeed all forms of gambling should be prohibited not only in the online form but in the offline form because it would be very useless if they really want to stop gambling activities for the community or the youth in the country but indeed legalize gambling even there are still some legal outlets for lotteries or horse racing as you said . Its just like you forbid your child to play games but you buy a console that can be used for your child 
But maybe in this case there is another consideration where it is to limit students because for some online sites that do not use KYC then anyone has the right to be in it unlike lottery outlets or casinos that are already visible then there must be some special requirements that can be used as a reference that only adults can be in it but it is a little silly because in the end gambling still exists and it doesnt make sense with this reason.
But maybe in this case there is another consideration where it is to limit students because for some online sites that do not use KYC then anyone has the right to be in it unlike lottery outlets or casinos that are already visible then there must be some special requirements that can be used as a reference that only adults can be in it but it is a little silly because in the end gambling still exists and it doesnt make sense with this reason.
The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities.
March 16, 2024, 03:10:45 PM
This is one bill that is interesting to follow, gambling is very much legal in our country and many content creators are getting rich creating content about gambling,
and content creators are just the tip of the iceberg. The government is likely earning millions from taxes and fees from gambling operators. Winners from some jackpots may get taxed as well. A full blown ban on promotions will surely hit the industry.
I don't think it will reach this forum, its only for content creators on social medias who have large following,
I guess you have a point with bitcointalk being a non-mainstream platform hence likely won't be on their radar. From a resources to reward ratio perspective, it's such a poor target as well because it doesn't take a genius to know no one, if not, most would be able to pay huge fines.
March 16, 2024, 02:54:01 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
I think this is a big trap for gamblers especially those that are not aware that advertising or talking about gambling activities would bring a big penalty. This is why we need to always read and make sure that any country we are going to, we know the law they so we don't become victims of circumstances we are nit aware about. In this kind of country that gambling is eligible but a single adverts attract sanctions that generate funds for the government. I think this is a trap and we should be aware of what we are doing so we don't become a victim of what we don't know and this is mostly for the expatriates living in a new country. So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"
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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content
March 16, 2024, 02:41:13 PM
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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"
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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online contentStill, it doesn’t make a lot of sense as these are taxed industry and not allowing any form of internet publicity is directly hampering the growth of the industry which you’re taxing.
All that tough doesn’t stop humans from gambling and indirectly, these materials will go out.
then it wont really be needing that much exposure. The thing i do have in mind is on whats the reason that they do prohibit those kind of gestures or showcase those wins is that
they dont really like to get those negative inputs or impressions by the public despite of its being legal. We do know that not all would really be pleased out when it comes to
gambling despite of being allow but of course there would really be a certain market for that and its something that couldnt really be stopped.
As a citizen then if its something that you would be put up in jail, then why the heck you would really be doing such thing?
March 16, 2024, 02:26:21 PM
This is a selfish rule
If the government wants to restrict gambling, they should do so completely and not let the existing businesses (casinos and other gambling companies) suffer because of no promotional activities and advertisements online and we know online promotion is one fast means of reaching a wider audience/customers. This is a greedy attempt on the side of the government, they clearly don't like gambling yet they legalise it so they can receive revenue from these gambling companies. It will only be fair if the government monitors online gambling promotions instead and place restrictions on certain promotional contents, including some channels used to promote such contents.
If the government wants to restrict gambling, they should do so completely and not let the existing businesses (casinos and other gambling companies) suffer because of no promotional activities and advertisements online and we know online promotion is one fast means of reaching a wider audience/customers. This is a greedy attempt on the side of the government, they clearly don't like gambling yet they legalise it so they can receive revenue from these gambling companies. It will only be fair if the government monitors online gambling promotions instead and place restrictions on certain promotional contents, including some channels used to promote such contents.
March 16, 2024, 01:58:39 PM
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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"
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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online contentStill, it doesn’t make a lot of sense as these are taxed industry and not allowing any form of internet publicity is directly hampering the growth of the industry which you’re taxing.
All that tough doesn’t stop humans from gambling and indirectly, these materials will go out.
March 16, 2024, 01:50:57 PM
I don’t know about the law being right or wrong. It’s certainly crazy that an activity that’s legal and allowed in a country cannot be talked about online. You could gamble all you want but talk about it online and face punishment of fines or jail term and in some cases, both.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.
Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.
I can understand the aim of the law to the general populace but if the law maker feels so strongly about gambling and all it entails, won’t it be better to put forward laws that would place stringent restrictions that would curtail gambling? Perhaps such strict laws won’t get enough support in order to pass.
Well, this would certainly help curb gambling online and greatly reduce its visibility to minors and young adults online.
Nakes sense. It's kinda crazy you can gamble all you want but can't chat about it online without getting in trouble. If they're worried about the bad side of gambling why not just make stricter rules for it instead of trying to hush people up? But I guess really tough laws might not go down well with everyone. Still, tightening things up online could help keep kids away from it. It's a real tricky situation, you know? Balancing freedom and control ain't easy
I believe that achieving a balance will always be difficult because people's definitions of "freedom" and "control" differ. Some people believe that any gambling prohibitions violate their right to make their own decisions. Others see greater limitations as a helpful step toward safeguarding individuals from harm. So, even if a policy is implemented to strike a balance, it is possible that some people will be dissatisfied with it.
March 16, 2024, 01:42:53 PM
It depends on the laws of each country. Gambling may be legalized in your country for those who want to gamble on their own initiative. But if you promote the casino site with various interesting slides, videos or other content then it is also on them. May affect people who originally did not want to gamble. so such people can get upset and complain against the promoter and at that time the promoter can be jailed it will depend on the laws of each country. So to know this, you have to study law first
Such regulations are too cornering gambling, even though it has been legalized. There should be places where to promote gambling, and these places are already addressed.
There may be rules that do not allow promoting in public places or places that are too crowded with minors.
Not completely prohibiting someone from promoting gambling either through slides, videos and other content.
If it is prohibitive, of course it is obvious, not allowing it at all, but if it is still legal, it must be flexible and equally profitable,
because the casino must have paid taxes to the government that legalized it.
March 16, 2024, 01:21:14 PM
Any chance this bill will be approved?
And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.
Similar rules for advertisement bans for certain fields exists already all around the world and EU is setting up tighter laws against influencer marketing too.
Traditional media and traditional advertisement was easier to control, but regulators want to catch up with guerrilla adverisement like influencers. And since that fight is way harder to win as most of them don't admit that they are advertising. This could be one step against it. If they don't need to prove that influencer is getting something in return, it's way more easier just to enforce blanket ban pro gambling content in general.
March 16, 2024, 12:40:59 PM
so what do you think of this law, is this right?
I get what you're saying, but I don't think gambling ads being illegal while gambling itself is legal is that weird. It kinda reminds me of alcohol - it's legal to buy but theres all these rules about selling it or drinking it public and my guess is they're worried about problem gambling and addiction. So maybe cracking down on constant ads everywhere is their way to help addicts out? Seems contradictory though, right? Makes you wonder if there's some other reason they don't want it promoted so much.
March 16, 2024, 12:24:18 PM
There must be a logical reason for making such a law. Where online gambling or physical gambling is permitted but direct promotion is prohibited. I think the purpose of making such a law is that gambling cannot be encouraged there. If one conducts gambling at his own wish he has sufficient freedom but when it is publicized he becomes a criminal. I think this is definitely a good law. If gambling is legalized in most countries that have existing laws, they will be allowed to do all kinds of promotions, including gambling and advertising. But the laws of your country legalize gambling but do not allow it to be encouraged which is certainly commendable. Government in a country can take any decision considering various opportunities, benefits and alternative possibilities.
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