The only thing I noticed here is that they are trying to reduce gambling addiction because I know too well that is commentaries or testimonies that always inspired a fellow or none gambling to pick up interest to gamble with this law people might remain anonymous while they still gamble without them influencing others.
This will also reduce the gambling active and influencing people around knowing to well that there are fine to pay so gambling could be done responsibly without or getting oneself into additive phase.
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March 15, 2024, 01:56:46 PM
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March 15, 2024, 01:39:33 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
This is very strange but at the same time, very understandable as well.So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Strange in the sense that this is a very uncommon law, it's the first time I am hearing or learning about such, and I believe that it is exactly the same for so many people here as well.
So, it is very uncommon to know of the possibility of a country banning talks about gambling, mean while gambling is fully legal in the same country.
On the other hand, this is understandable in the sense that, gambling is naturally promoted and more people get into gambling when they see or read about or of people's gambing testimonies online or in face to face discussions or interactions, a person who never had any intention of gambling can easily pick interest to want to try out gambling after they have read or heard that a person won a certain big amount of money on a game after betting a supposedly small about of money.
I believe this is what the government is moving to want to stop, gambling promotions regardless of the fact it's still legal to gamble.
March 15, 2024, 01:29:01 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
I wouldn't say it is weird. Some countries allow gambling, but they don't allow "advertising" or promoting gambling. I forgot, but a year or before, there was a country that banned all gambling related content/advertisement on TVs and maybe posters too. The rationale behind such a law probably boils down to the influence social media and online platforms have, specially on kids. There's a real issue with people sharing fake wins or exaggerating their gambling success online. They do it mainly to lure others in, sometimes through referral links or just to gain followers/views. This kind of promotion can definitely hide the reality of gambling risks and potentially encourages more people to gamble, thinking it is easy to win big. So I guess it is more likely to protect those that are vulnerable like gambling addicts and kids. So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
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"In this regard, this representation proposes the prohibition of online publication of materials that instruct or demonstrate gambling, commentaries, and advertisements that promote awareness of gambling activities,"
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Any person who will be found publishing gambling-related content may face six months to one year imprisonment or a fine ranging from P300,000 to P500,000.
Senate bill seeks ban on pro-gambling online content
March 15, 2024, 01:19:33 PM
Selective I guess. Most likely, registered gambling providers are the one which are legal and not all of the platforms. Therefore, promoting it will have sanctions. Also, gambling promotion has added weight by means of encouragement. Legality of a platform means it is accessible to people as long as it follows the regulation. Promoting gambling activities could encourage people including those whoch are not yet 18 and above; simply this industry wouldn't want to. It is most likely a 'lt it be' set up and if it will involve persuasion and encouragement.
Yes, you are right there. As long as they follow the regulation requirements that the government needs, it is fine in the Philippines for a gambling business to operate as long as it is
registered with Pagcor. So that proposed bill is good when it becomes law.
Because it has never been good to do illegal things in a gambling business, and everyone in the crypto space that we live in knows that too.
Well, in gambling industry to most of the countries, majority of operators are not registered because they avoid taxes and restrictions with regards to operation. Illegal is a common term being associated with betting in general simply because only few countries are allowing its operation due to the risks involved in particular with addiction. But still, there are platforms who still obey the law and in exchange is regulation including promotion, to name one.
Philippines are not really 100% pro gambling, they have some gambling operators that were given a license but are only selective. About lottery, yeah, they are everywhere but it does not make people loss a lot of money, unless a person is truly addicted, but overall, less than a dollar, one can already bet in lottery.
However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate, people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled. I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.
However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate, people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled. I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.
Yes, you are right there. As long as they follow the regulation requirements that the government needs, it is fine in the Philippines for a gambling business to operate as long as it is
registered with Pagcor. So that proposed bill is good when it becomes law.
Because it has never been good to do illegal things in a gambling business, and everyone in the crypto space that we live in knows that too.
March 15, 2024, 01:10:18 PM
Gambling laws can be a puzzling maze. On one hand, some forms of gambling are legal, on the other, advertising them is strictly forbidden. It seems counterintuitive, doesn't it?
Let's peel back the layers. This law isn't about stopping people from gambling altogether. It's about creating a safeguard against exploitation. Imagine a world bombarded with flashy casino ads, promising easy riches. Vulnerable individuals, enticed by these deceptive portrayals, could be lured into a dangerous cycle of addiction.
These fake social media influencers and telegram groups are like digital sirens, luring unsuspecting victims onto the gambling rocks. The law wants to silence these deceptive voices, protecting people from falling prey to their manipulative tactics.
The law doesn't judge the gambler, it protects them. It allows individuals to make informed choices, free from the pressure of relentless advertising. Imagine a casino with a big sign outside, but no salespeople allowed on the street. People can still walk in if they choose, but the decision is theirs, unclouded by aggressive marketing tactics.
Let's peel back the layers. This law isn't about stopping people from gambling altogether. It's about creating a safeguard against exploitation. Imagine a world bombarded with flashy casino ads, promising easy riches. Vulnerable individuals, enticed by these deceptive portrayals, could be lured into a dangerous cycle of addiction.
These fake social media influencers and telegram groups are like digital sirens, luring unsuspecting victims onto the gambling rocks. The law wants to silence these deceptive voices, protecting people from falling prey to their manipulative tactics.
The law doesn't judge the gambler, it protects them. It allows individuals to make informed choices, free from the pressure of relentless advertising. Imagine a casino with a big sign outside, but no salespeople allowed on the street. People can still walk in if they choose, but the decision is theirs, unclouded by aggressive marketing tactics.
March 15, 2024, 12:45:54 PM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
Two things are likely to be happening here;1. The government could be pushing its citizens to playing the lottery because they might have a stake in it or probably use it as a cashcow for whatever financing is needed...
2. This could be targeted to any other gambling platform available from you jurisdiction, and they are trying to put them out of business either for not paying the right amount for licensing or probably an individual using the government machinery to put a competitor out of business.
Make your pick from above reasons, but from how all this is all explained it honestly doesn't even make sense, perphaps if they really want gambling controlled then let them ban this vice altogether than subjecting it's people to some hash punishments!!
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
If I where in this country, I would go for my freedom and stay away from gambling, otherwise if they serve the interests of the people better they state their intentions than shooting in the dark and people aren't sure of what's happening. 
March 15, 2024, 12:42:44 PM
These vloggers often paint an unrealistic picture. They showcase their wins, the thrill of victory, but conveniently forget the countless losses that keep gambling sites afloat. It's like watching a highlight reel of a soccer game, with only the goals and none of the grueling training or missed shots.
This lack of transparency is what makes the situation so dangerous. Kids and teenagers, with their developing sense of judgment, are particularly vulnerable to this distorted portrayal. They might see gambling as a path to easy money, a quick fix for their desires, completely oblivious to the potential dangers of addiction.
So, a blanket ban on all gambling promotion might seem like a blunt instrument, but it highlights a genuine concern. We need a more nuanced approach. Age restrictions on gambling content are crucial, but what about these cleverly disguised vlog endings? Perhaps a stricter vetting process is needed, or clearer disclaimers separating the actual content from the gambling promotion.
This lack of transparency is what makes the situation so dangerous. Kids and teenagers, with their developing sense of judgment, are particularly vulnerable to this distorted portrayal. They might see gambling as a path to easy money, a quick fix for their desires, completely oblivious to the potential dangers of addiction.
So, a blanket ban on all gambling promotion might seem like a blunt instrument, but it highlights a genuine concern. We need a more nuanced approach. Age restrictions on gambling content are crucial, but what about these cleverly disguised vlog endings? Perhaps a stricter vetting process is needed, or clearer disclaimers separating the actual content from the gambling promotion.
March 15, 2024, 12:42:00 PM
This is very understandable. What the senates are trying to do is regulate the way people gamble and react to gambling in their country. Truth be told, online gambling promotion is a partner.
The reason why the gambling industry is getting the kind of attention it's getting is because of the pattern most people use in promoting gambling online, like the way they promote it as if it's all that easy to win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth do not rush into it with further study of how the gambling industry works.
The reason why the gambling industry is getting the kind of attention it's getting is because of the pattern most people use in promoting gambling online, like the way they promote it as if it's all that easy to win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth win without losing in the gambling, which is part of the reason why most youth do not rush into it with further study of how the gambling industry works.
March 15, 2024, 12:37:57 PM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Looking at this from my own personal point of view, I just think your country is just only trying to indirectly tax people for every successful gambling, because if I may ask, Do your country also charge people to court if they post a bet they lost while gambling? Because allowing gambling in the physical, while persecuting same people when they post a game won while gambling online doesn't make any sense. But, only if such penalty is being made just to regulate gambling exposure to people less of below 18yrs, then such policy is likely to be worth it. 
March 15, 2024, 12:31:42 PM
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This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.
I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.
The government will try to take a middle path so as not to ban it completely, which in the end will get nothing from the industry. Maybe they'll think about what's mutually beneficial before passing a rule, but I don't know what country you're from.
Almost all countries have corrupt governments, not only yours but my country is the same. They often camouflage themselves with regulations, while behind the scenes they continue to get payments from the industry. It's ridiculous, but that's the truth.
This is quite a strange proposed law. However, what I see is that there is some anxiety that has led the proponent make the prohibition proposal. The prohibition is intended for reduce the negative impact that gambling activities can have, but the prohibition is not intended to limit the income that government can get from gambling activities. If he really want to eliminate the bad effects of gambling, then instead of prohibition on promoting gambling activities, he should submit a proposal to ban all gambling activities.
Besides that, it is not stated whether the prohibition applies to individuals or also applies to government agencies. If the prohibition on promoting gambling activities only applies to individuals, so there is a possibility the authorized party or those given permission by the government can promote gambling activities and the content, which means it will be additional income for the government.
March 15, 2024, 12:22:12 PM
Philippines are not really 100% pro gambling, they have some gambling operators that were given a license but are only selective. About lottery, yeah, they are everywhere but it does not make people loss a lot of money, unless a person is truly addicted, but overall, less than a dollar, one can already bet in lottery.
However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate, people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled. I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.
However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate, people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled. I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.
Yes, you are right there. As long as they follow the regulation requirements that the government needs, it is fine in the Philippines for a gambling business to operate as long as it is
registered with Pagcor. So that proposed bill is good when it becomes law.
Because it has never been good to do illegal things in a gambling business, and everyone in the crypto space that we live in knows that too.
March 15, 2024, 12:18:11 PM
Well it's still a bill and it hasn't been passed into law but I don't think I'd be wrong to say whoever came up with such bill is sick in the head.
According to an extract from the article:
"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."
If they kick against talking and promoting gambling on social media, what's the difference between such publicity and stationary gambling sign boards in front of casinos, isn't it also a form of advert?
According to an extract from the article:
"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."
If they kick against talking and promoting gambling on social media, what's the difference between such publicity and stationary gambling sign boards in front of casinos, isn't it also a form of advert?
If the government chooses to take such measures, possibly they must be doing such for the interest of their citizens. Sometimes, before the government or the law makers in a nation put up bills of such nature, there must have been uproars of such act in that nation which is however causing or becoming a menace in that country and as a step to curtailing excess of it, the put a law into action to checkmate such activities. This I believe the government of that nation wants to do to her citizens.
This I think would not solve the issue of gambling as their citizens would resort to going online to gamble just to avoid the government sanctions against them. This would get worse than they expected to reduce.
March 15, 2024, 12:17:04 PM
Any chance this bill will be approved?
And its such a big amount compare to other crimes, the heck Sen Padilla. because this I think will affect Filipinos here in the forum if they proved us to be promoting casinos. I did have a medium account where I wrote some articles about gambling and added my referral links and I did create a youtube channel for it.
March 15, 2024, 12:07:36 PM
Philippines are not really 100% pro gambling, they have some gambling operators that were given a license but are only selective. About lottery, yeah, they are everywhere but it does not make people loss a lot of money, unless a person is truly addicted, but overall, less than a dollar, one can already bet in lottery.
However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate, people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled. I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.
However, this online gambling platforms with most of them are unlicensed has been used or abuse by the influencers to make easy money by convining their followers to bet after they showed their winning bets. Knowing the Philippines has a high poverty rate, people might be desperate to make money from gambling but in reality they were just misled. I have not opposition about this bill, anyone can gamble but this one is to eliminate irresponsible gambling cause by irresponsible online influencers.
March 15, 2024, 12:02:05 PM
Well it's still a bill and it hasn't been passed into law but I don't think I'd be wrong to say whoever came up with such bill is sick in the head.
According to an extract from the article:
"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."
If they kick against talking and promoting gambling on social media, what's the difference between such publicity and stationary gambling sign boards in front of casinos, isn't it also a form of advert since casinos are not banned.
According to an extract from the article:
"The lawmaker said the proposed legislation is deemed instrumental to lessen, if not at all eliminate, the exposure and impact of gambling to the general public, especially the youth, that brings lasting damage to individuals, families, and even communities."
If they kick against talking and promoting gambling on social media, what's the difference between such publicity and stationary gambling sign boards in front of casinos, isn't it also a form of advert since casinos are not banned.
March 15, 2024, 11:37:26 AM
This violation is quite strange and confusing but interesting to discuss, sometimes there are strange regulations like that in some countries but we just don't know about them, but this is much stranger where gambling is legal everywhere but you are not allowed to publish it online let alone promote it, I think we Everyone knows that the reason the state prohibits gambling is because it doesn't want all of its people to gamble in online casinos and maybe that reason is used to prevent people from gambling online because the government doesn't get the taxes.
Meanwhile, playing gambling at lottery outlets offline, maybe the government gets taxes from it, but I also don't want to react, let alone assess the regulations in your country, of course your government has reasons for that, it could be because they want to get more taxes and fines from the people who do you like gambling or does your government not want people to like gambling because of invitations from friends who publish their winnings as gambling-related content on the internet or their social media.
Meanwhile, playing gambling at lottery outlets offline, maybe the government gets taxes from it, but I also don't want to react, let alone assess the regulations in your country, of course your government has reasons for that, it could be because they want to get more taxes and fines from the people who do you like gambling or does your government not want people to like gambling because of invitations from friends who publish their winnings as gambling-related content on the internet or their social media.
March 15, 2024, 11:31:38 AM
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This bill was introduced in my country so I’m pretty sure that it’s content will be revised to a bare minimum since our government is corrupt while we get most of our taxes on gambling industry from huge scale casino like POGO which use various artist and influencer to promote their brand.
I doubt that this bill will successfully approved in the senate. Maybe this will be revised to target only influencers on social media that doing live stream but not to the level that it will be generalized for any gambling activity. I trust on how corrupt our government so this is an easy denied.
The government will try to take a middle path so as not to ban it completely, which in the end will get nothing from the industry. Maybe they'll think about what's mutually beneficial before passing a rule, but I don't know what country you're from.
Almost all countries have corrupt governments, not only yours but my country is the same. They often camouflage themselves with regulations, while behind the scenes they continue to get payments from the industry. It's ridiculous, but that's the truth.
March 15, 2024, 11:29:55 AM
That's strange. But reading from the article's first paragraph you can already tell this is something about social media influencers promoting casinos which have ruined lives of your fellow men. Many off us are not aware of the people affected in your country but the government must have took noticed of those victims are did some actions.
The casino and all other gambling businesses in the cities are regulated and the establishments know their gamblers. If you are someone who gambles in your city, they know you can afford and they will not bother you but those online gamblers, the government will not be able to monitor people who spends money in to online casinos and who got addicted.
The casino and all other gambling businesses in the cities are regulated and the establishments know their gamblers. If you are someone who gambles in your city, they know you can afford and they will not bother you but those online gamblers, the government will not be able to monitor people who spends money in to online casinos and who got addicted.
March 15, 2024, 11:29:12 AM
I find this unusual and weird I live in a country where gambling is legal there are lotto outletss in every corner, there are horse racing betting outlet and there are online betting station that originates in our country and yet there is a pending bill that if you're going to post or talk about gambling you'll likely going to get fine of 500k pesos or $90k and you will also land in jail.
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
I just hope this bill is not passed into law because many people might go to jail or be forced to pay fines. I hope the government is also making plans to increase the prison capacity of the country because many people might fall victim to this law. People usually post wins on social media to advertise the casino and out of the joy of winning. Friends and families have mocked many people concerning losses in gambling, so out of joy they might want to prove to critics that they have been fortunate. This is why some of them post these wins on social media.
That's a quite strange law because they are allowing gambling casinos and outlets to work without any restriction but when someone talks about it they will get penalized. If they really don't like gambling then they should take proper actions against the casinos and those lotto outlets, however, i they don't want to do that then they should allow citizens to talk about betting.
Sometimes it is not out of place for the government to regulate the gambling sector to discourage gambling addiction and underage gambling. I was not pleased when I saw a betting company advertising close to a junior secondary school where students are less than fourteen years old. This is why the government will make certain laws to protect the vulnerable. However, I find this bill to be very strict.
March 15, 2024, 11:22:47 AM
So if you post that you won in horse racing or you post the winning bets in daily lottery you will likely get charged and penalize, so what do you think of this law, is this right?
Laws remain rules from the government, they can issue laws based on mutual negotiations, especially parliament, of course parliament is not one or two people, maybe dozens of people and including religions, whether it's for gambling or against gambling, we as a society must understand situations like that, I'm sure almost all countries apply rules like legal gambling but the same as illegal and illegal gambling but like legal.We understand situations like that in gambling, because almost on average mafia countries have power in the government, if that happens then it is not surprising that in countries where gambling is legal it becomes illegal and vice versa, business and rivals talk, that's how the world is today, laws can be bought and wrong can be right and right can be wrong.
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