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Quote from: HelliumZ on October 29, 2024, 09:07:47 AM

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Where there is such an opportunity to quickly make a big profit, there will definitely be someone who will neglect the risks for the sake of the goal. But as we know, not everyone can hit a jackpot, most lose not only their savings, but also the savings of the whole family.

Where there is potential for big profits, there must be big risks. It won't take long for you to go from rich to poor if you're the jackpot they want in gambling. There are many gamblers in reality who have bet away many times hoping to win the jackpot but have not hit the jackpot. Jackpots are not really for everyone who are lucky enough to win the jackpot and in reality the number of such lucky gamblers is very small.

Yes, I totally agree with this, where there will be big profits, there will definitely be big risks too, so as gamblers we must understand well about such perceptions because it is impossible for us to get profits continuously, there will definitely be a time gap that may take a long time, what is meant is that as a gambler, luck in getting a win is not easy, even though you have tried your best, the dealer still determines.
Yes, you are right, as gamblers we can only hope and hope to get a win and the comparison is that only a few will win in the gambling.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 28, 2024, 10:10:59 PM

That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

In fact, the government has tried to remind its citizens not to gamble, but as we know, the more it is prohibited, the more people do it and violate it, and they realize it when they have really lost, education has also often been carried out in government offices and even private ones about the dangers of gambling, but those who are addicted will continue to play, this education will apply to people who have not really touched online or offline gambling

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Quote from: HelliumZ on October 29, 2024, 09:07:47 AM

Quote from: tvplus006 on October 27, 2024, 06:41:59 PM

Where there is such an opportunity to quickly make a big profit, there will definitely be someone who will neglect the risks for the sake of the goal. But as we know, not everyone can hit a jackpot, most lose not only their savings, but also the savings of the whole family.

Where there is potential for big profits, there must be big risks. It won't take long for you to go from rich to poor if you're the jackpot they want in gambling. There are many gamblers in reality who have bet away many times hoping to win the jackpot but have not hit the jackpot. Jackpots are not really for everyone who are lucky enough to win the jackpot and in reality the number of such lucky gamblers is very small.

Typically, the jackpot is open for every gambler who is interested in winning, but the required selective consistency is what drags back most players from reaching there. It's all a matter of control and identifying the right moment to wager good amount. However, instead of staying in queue for the jackpot, enjoying the process would be less stressful, than tiring ourselves out hopping around for techniques to fasten up the winning opportunity.

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Quote from: tvplus006 on October 27, 2024, 06:41:59 PM

Where there is such an opportunity to quickly make a big profit, there will definitely be someone who will neglect the risks for the sake of the goal. But as we know, not everyone can hit a jackpot, most lose not only their savings, but also the savings of the whole family.

Where there is potential for big profits, there must be big risks. It won't take long for you to go from rich to poor if you're the jackpot they want in gambling. There are many gamblers in reality who have bet away many times hoping to win the jackpot but have not hit the jackpot. Jackpots are not really for everyone who are lucky enough to win the jackpot and in reality the number of such lucky gamblers is very small.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 28, 2024, 10:10:59 PM

That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

When the government can eduacte their citizen about the danger of gambling, that will gives understanding to their citizens that they don't have to rely on gambling to make money. They will open their eyes that they need to work and earn money from their job. They can playing gambling occasionally to have fun and relax themselves after they doing many activities.

But some people will not thinks like that and still depends on gambling to make money. That is why we often see many people lose their money from gambling but that still not stop them from playing gambling. They still return to casino and hopes that this day they can win by playing gambling. They must know that poverty can not solved by playing gambling but they must search for a job or open a business to make money.

They are not well educated or they are just really gamblers from the start. I mean, even if there's education there's still a possibility that a gambler will always be a gambler no matter how many good things you tell them to prevent them from doing the bad habit that also became a routinary for them.

In the past, most gamblers are from the sports industry and athletes. Because they easily get money from 1 match in boxing or whatever sport they are good at, they also gamble it like they are millionaires even if they don't have any savings at all. Back when I was a kid, I heard a lot of news about them suddenly going poor because of gambling.
I think what we should really learn is the correct way of securing our financial incomes. Even if there's gambling, if we cannot move that money, then we still have a future.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 28, 2024, 10:10:59 PM

That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

I don't know how much this education can limit gambling, I only know that when gambling is not abolished as it is now, the level of human restraint is very low, all is just enhanced with an exciting hormone, always needing an addictive feeling from gambling. Therefore, poverty also quickly comes to a person as long as they pay attention to a gambling field, many countries are also afraid of this wave and deliberately put out humane propaganda to adjust the mentality and ideology but the harsh reaction like preventing others from getting rich is what they get in return.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 28, 2024, 10:33:13 PM

Quote from: tusandii on October 28, 2024, 10:10:59 PM

That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

yes that's right, sometimes even though gambling is prohibited in their country, each individual themselves who do not care about what they do sometimes do crazy things with big risks that are certain to happen but they still do it, in my opinion this happens because there is a strong urge to want to win until what they do is continue to gamble without caring about the side of the losses that will occur later.
In my own country, gambling is prohibited, and there have been many cases of people who have experienced bad things because of gambling addiction, whether they are bankrupt, those who divorce their partners, the loss of their homes or other assets and even some who end their lives because they are in debt that was previously used for gambling, this is terrible.

One thing we forget is that gambling has been around for a long time, whether it is banned or not, people cannot be prevented from gambling. I mean gambling is about personality and will always involve personal decisions. Even though many countries have banned gambling, provided education and so on, it does not stop someone from accessing gambling. Unless you live in North Korea with full control, then the level of eradication of gambling will be easy to do, both from the lower and upper levels of society to the upper levels of society.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 28, 2024, 10:10:59 PM

That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

Since global gambling platform has now become an established platform, governments cannot leave it out of their plans. Because in some countries governments are getting revenue from this platform. Governments of countries that are collecting revenue from gambling platforms should pay special attention to gambling issues. Especially the new gamblers will suffer financially and emotionally if they get addicted there. In that regard it is necessary to give knowledge in advance as a precaution. By doing this, they can gain more skills and knowledge in gambling matters and how to conduct gambling in adverse conditions and how to control themselves.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 28, 2024, 01:40:55 PM

I kinda agree to this sentiment but from the people that have built up some sort of wealth, it's unlikely they would lose everything.

But for many people that are on the edge of poverty, their gambling habit can actually keep them in substantial poverty. So it's something that is causing a lot of people to remain poor. So in the long term it would be ideal to implement some sort of income based limits on the gambling platforms that are most prevalent. The UK is already implementing such system and it's helping quite a few people. Of course those more familiar with online systems would find loopholes and play with VPN, crypto, unlicensed casinos or Curacau ones etc.

So I agree with the OP but the proposed solutions are quite restrictive and only help people who have only knowledged to access proper licensed platforms. If someone wants to ruin their wealth otherwise, they'll always be other ways.

this is the thing, if you have more wealth and disposable income small losses (and this is relative) won't be such a big deal

do you have any sources on what the UK is implementing? not sure if I got it....

people would always have a way to ruin their wealth, if not with gambling than with legalized lotteries organized by the government
but I'm on the team that thinks betting ends up doing more harm than good

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Quote from: tusandii on October 28, 2024, 10:10:59 PM

That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

When the government can eduacte their citizen about the danger of gambling, that will gives understanding to their citizens that they don't have to rely on gambling to make money. They will open their eyes that they need to work and earn money from their job. They can playing gambling occasionally to have fun and relax themselves after they doing many activities.

But some people will not thinks like that and still depends on gambling to make money. That is why we often see many people lose their money from gambling but that still not stop them from playing gambling. They still return to casino and hopes that this day they can win by playing gambling. They must know that poverty can not solved by playing gambling but they must search for a job or open a business to make money.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on October 28, 2024, 09:28:59 PM

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Yup, thinking about that they can easily duplicate their previous wins may keep them playing, in hope that luck wil permits them and will give that chance to recover but most of the time if not in every case or scenario they will just keep adding money and lead them losing their money to the point that they already struggled with their finances. It's a quick way lose it all of you don't know how to control and balance your money.

The downside is that a gambler often isn’t satisfied with small winnings. Even if he starts off winning, it’s never enough for him. He continues to gamble until he loses his initial winnings and ultimately all his capital for the day. I’ve seen this happen with a friend who is this type of gambler.

Yes it is greed and most gamblers always find it difficult to ignore greed in their minds especially when they have managed to achieve a number of wins, as you said that often they are not satisfied with the amount of winnings they get so instead of cashing it out they continue and chase a larger amount of winnings which in the end often leads a gambler to significant regret when the amount of winnings they previously managed to get is lost again because of the luck that has been lost.

Therefore, this is why a gambler must know, understand and realize what and how gambling really is, because when you realize a fact that defeat will always be part of the game and also understand that previous wins cannot be used as a guarantee for the next win, then it is unlikely for you to apply greed.

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Quote from: tusandii on October 28, 2024, 10:10:59 PM

That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

yes that's right, sometimes even though gambling is prohibited in their country, each individual themselves who do not care about what they do sometimes do crazy things with big risks that are certain to happen but they still do it, in my opinion this happens because there is a strong urge to want to win until what they do is continue to gamble without caring about the side of the losses that will occur later.
In my own country, gambling is prohibited, and there have been many cases of people who have experienced bad things because of gambling addiction, whether they are bankrupt, those who divorce their partners, the loss of their homes or other assets and even some who end their lives because they are in debt that was previously used for gambling, this is terrible.

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That is why many countries not legalize gambling because the government is worried that gambling will make life even more miserable, the poor will become poorer and the rich will become poor but sometimes even though the government cares, the users are the ones who pay little attention to their gambling and continue to use gambling as a means of getting money quickly and blaming the government for the mistakes they make. In my opinion, even though gambling cannot be eliminated, at least there is education that can open the eyes of gamblers so that they can limit themselves so that they do not get too caught up in this game.

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Quote from: jossiel on October 28, 2024, 05:47:53 PM

Quote from: alani123 on October 28, 2024, 01:40:55 PM

I kinda agree to this sentiment but from the people that have built up some sort of wealth, it's unlikely they would lose everything.

We can't be sure.

I have watched and read stories about those that came from wealth and then due to being a gambling addict, they've lost almost everything.

But it's true that those that are living with poverty will make themselves stay there due to this mindset.

Even though rich people who have a lot of money or abundant assets, poverty can happen if they are trapped in gambling addiction, especially with the wrong mindset such as being able to double their money in gambling or chasing victory, this mindset will most likely only make them experience themselves being more interested in gambling, it's not just a saying but I'm sure this has happened to some people out there, including in my own environment which did happen with initially having a lot of money, a house, a car but all that disappeared when he was addicted to gambling. The statement about gambling being a shortcut to poverty is a reality but this applies to people who do consider gambling as a way to get rich quick or a way to get money. Because for those who consider it just entertainment, in my opinion, they will not gamble excessively which can make them suffer big losses or become poor.

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The gambler who consider to get the money from gambling will pay in different manners.They will start to play with some money safety in the critical manner.Butbin the gambling,the gambling will give the biggest opportunity at the end of that game.The experienced gambler will know about the opportunities at the particular critical moment.Gamblers who get money from the gambling will not get satisfied after the money win.The will start the process for the second round here,but we know their will be loss game in the end of the game.

This is exactly what I said to one of my family members recently because we had some discussion about the gambling activities he is doing because I believe he is struggling financially and he said to me "When you are struggling. This is the only way you will make enough money easily"
When I heard that, I didn't know what to say, I thought I was about to cry or slap him. His mind seems already broken, how can he say that? Maybe due to what he is going for?

That’s what gamblers usually say because many have experienced winning substantial amounts of money. When they run out of money, they often turn to gambling as a way to make more. However, the problem is that their past experience of winning big might not be replicated, leading to repeated losses. Before they know it, they are already struggling financially.

Yup, thinking about that they can easily duplicate their previous wins may keep them playing, in hope that luck wil permits them and will give that chance to recover but most of the time if not in every case or scenario they will just keep adding money and lead them losing their money to the point that they already struggled with their finances. It's a quick way lose it all of you don't know how to control and balance your money.

The downside is that a gambler often isn’t satisfied with small winnings. Even if he starts off winning, it’s never enough for him. He continues to gamble until he loses his initial winnings and ultimately all his capital for the day. I’ve seen this happen with a friend who is this type of gambler.

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Quote from: Makus on October 28, 2024, 02:04:14 PM

Every gambler without self control is likely to get addicted in no time. Its take a lot of discipline to gamble with a schedule amount after losing drastically, the mindset of revenge always come up in the mind of the gambler but the choice to either fall for it or disregard it is determined by the gambler. Even gambler with lots of years of experience still fall for this trick, it's easier to fall when you are desperate for a win or chasing after your loses or jackpot. Sometimes gamblers conceive the mindset that gambling often would guarantee a jackpot but that's not true, gamble often most especially irresponsibly would only create more loses, only few gambles are lucky to hit the jackpot by gambling often because it all depends on luck.

It is true that it will be very easy for someone to become addicted to gambling when they cannot control their gambling activities and with discipline in setting limits for gambling, both the time we use to gamble or the funds we will use to gamble, of course this will be able to avoid addiction to gambling and most importantly we will not experience addiction and will also avoid financial problems.

If we think that by gambling too often we will be able to get big wins or jackpots, then this will make us spend more money on gambling and if there is a big win that they get from their bets, it cannot cover the losses they have experienced before, the luck that is obtained in gambling will not be able to be obtained often, so it would be better if we can control the time to gamble and the funds that we will use to gamble, because without doing this, it is very possible that we will experience problems in terms of finances.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 28, 2024, 01:40:55 PM

I kinda agree to this sentiment but from the people that have built up some sort of wealth, it's unlikely they would lose everything.

We can't be sure.

I have watched and read stories about those that came from wealth and then due to being a gambling addict, they've lost almost everything.

But it's true that those that are living with poverty will make themselves stay there due to this mindset.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 28, 2024, 12:58:30 PM

, financially, emotionally, spirtually, you name it...
if you lack self-control it's probably better to avoid gambling, you are right on that.
in the end of the day never risk more than what you can afford to lose is a golden rule.

Every gambler without self control is likely to get addicted in no time. Its take a lot of discipline to gamble with a schedule amount after losing drastically, the mindset of revenge always come up in the mind of the gambler but the choice to either fall for it or disregard it is determined by the gambler. Even gambler with lots of years of experience still fall for this trick, it's easier to fall when you are desperate for a win or chasing after your loses or jackpot. Sometimes gamblers conceive the mindset that gambling often would guarantee a jackpot but that's not true, gamble often most especially irresponsibly would only create more loses, only few gambles are lucky to hit the jackpot by gambling often because it all depends on luck.

Actually this isnt really just that applicable on gambling but also in other things as well on which on the moment or time that you would really be that dealing into something on which if its done on addicted manner or severe engagement on which it could really be potentially be able to affect something then it will really be just that wise that you should really be that trying to lessen up that kind of engagement on which we know that if it does really give out some effect negatively then it will really be that common sense that you should really be that stopping or trying to get rid of it while its still early.
The most common mistake of those people is that they do really believe that gambling could give out that positive outcome into their lives in terms of finances on which they dont mind of on the risks
involved into it and will be making out those regrets in the end of the line.

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With gambling gaining awareness each day and the population of those gambling increasing it's calls for concern as many has fallen victim to this money sucking game that makes people not to save their money but loss it.
But let's take a critical look at this very sensitive matter called gambling has anyone really made it from gambling, is gambling worth it and if really anyone has made it through gambling can he/she proudly tell the younger ones that gambling is what going into.
Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

I will never lay my cards in gambling knowing that my life will be ruined instead of having better.

Gambling is not a shortcut instead a door to be more poorer.

Yes, you are right that betting can bring you to be poor, it's better not, especially if you don't have good finances, it will be very difficult to go up to class, then you will lose your great hopes in changing fate, even rich people also fall into poverty because Gambling, but at the conclusion you must also understand that it is not a casino or gambling but it is because of the gambler's own mistakes who make mistakes because they cannot control their emotions and money well so that they are addicted and risking all the money in gambling.

most addictions can ruin your life somehow, financially, emotionally, spirtually, you name it...
if you lack self-control it's probably better to avoid gambling, you are right on that.
in the end of the day never risk more than what you can afford to lose is a golden rule.

Well you are right, but I see no how gamble addiction can ruin someone's life spiritually (am still wondering how Huh

) but nevermind if it can ruin one's life physically it means it could affect him or her both spiritually. However, to control ourselves so that we won't become addicted to gamble, we really need to be more responsible while gambling, by not risking what we can not afford to lose. Even though we gamble for fun we should also know our limits so that we would not exceed them while enjoying the fun (or not).

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on October 28, 2024, 12:58:30 PM

, financially, emotionally, spirtually, you name it...
if you lack self-control it's probably better to avoid gambling, you are right on that.
in the end of the day never risk more than what you can afford to lose is a golden rule.

Every gambler without self control is likely to get addicted in no time. Its take a lot of discipline to gamble with a schedule amount after losing drastically, the mindset of revenge always come up in the mind of the gambler but the choice to either fall for it or disregard it is determined by the gambler. Even gambler with lots of years of experience still fall for this trick, it's easier to fall when you are desperate for a win or chasing after your loses or jackpot. Sometimes gamblers conceive the mindset that gambling often would guarantee a jackpot but that's not true, gamble often most especially irresponsibly would only create more loses, only few gambles are lucky to hit the jackpot by gambling often because it all depends on luck.

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