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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 06, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

I am not sure if addicted gamblers can realize they become addicted to gambling but that could be right because they will see that they don't have any property anymore. But that will not stop them from playing gambling because they will search more ways to have money and keep playing gambling. If that is happen to poor people, they will have a big problem in their life and they will difficult to solves the problem. That is also what may happens to those who consider gambling as a source of income especially if they think that gambling can solve poverty.

Some poor gamblers I think more like that. but regarding the problems caused, I think rich gamblers will get bigger problems. they have enough assets to spend, not to mention colleagues and relatives who may also be affected by their addiction.
The environment of rich people and poor people is different. poor gamblers the worst impact may lead to crime if they are reckless. but rich gamblers or even those who have a special position in a company or government, the impact of addiction can not only make them lose a lot of assets, but it may harm other people in large numbers too.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on November 06, 2024, 11:21:18 PM

They will not realize that they are addicted to gambling, but I think they will realize when they have lost a lot of money or even assets that were previously owned that were sold because they were gambled on. I am sure that everyone who is addicted will experience where they can realize that everything they have done is too excessive to the point of bankruptcy that they should not have. Most people who gamble tend to experience losses and indeed some of them have their lives destroyed, this is not desired but many experience it.
It is very wrong of course to think that gambling is a source of steady income, while the existing victory cannot be obtained with certainty. Whether they are rich or poor, no one can get consistent victory in gambling, it is something that is very unlikely to happen.

Many years ago, I got to the point where I started borrowing money from anyone I could. At first, people didn't ask me what I needed the money for, but then rumors started spreading that I was an overly gambler who spent all my money in casinos. After that, no one would lend me money. But the desire to gamble never went away. I even had to take out a bank loan to continue my hobby. It's scary to even talk about the consequences. I had to go through a hundred circles of hell.

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Quote from: harapan on November 06, 2024, 11:49:29 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 06, 2024, 06:06:35 PM

Or it coudl be a recipe to disaster if you think that way....

Only if you're gambling while considering certain factors at hand.The unaddicted gamblers will go unpunished;but to those that gamble with desperation and greed they'll literally find it difficult to get a grip of this and that'll lead them into uncontrollably loss and regret.
Gambling cannot solve the hard times(poverty),but alas,Set a boundary between gambling and getting addicted to gambling.

Yes indeed when a gambler gambles, his current state of mind is reflected in the gambling game. If he gambles with frustration and greed, then he will keep losing money in gambling, and will fall into addiction which will lead him to a lot of financial losses, because when a gambler is addicted to gambling, he does not have any other attention, he is losing all his hard-earned money if no one notices him, and he does not stop until he loses all his money.

So it is very important to have self-control and certain limits while gambling, and gambling should be seen only as entertainment. And remember that gambling addiction will only lead you to disaster, no one has ever achieved success from it.

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Quote from: harapan on November 06, 2024, 11:49:29 PM

Only if you're gambling while considering certain factors at hand.The unaddicted gamblers will go unpunished;but to those that gamble with desperation and greed they'll literally find it difficult to get a grip of this and that'll lead them into uncontrollably loss and regret.
Gambling cannot solve the hard times(poverty),but alas,Set a boundary between gambling and getting addicted to gambling.

Setting boundaries, oh, how difficult.
Gambling addiction is caused by greed and competition. When people win at gambling, they eat, drink, and debauch all night long in the presence of friends near and far. When he lost money, debt piled up, and the borrowing caused the addict's wife and children to suffer. The harm of gambling is indescribable, how many families have been broken up because of gambling addiction.
Gambling Addiction is a Dead End, yet people still rush into the fire, causing broken families and destroying bodies and minds. The best way for those who do not have a firm stance is to stay away from gambling, do not try to play even once. Cannot set boundaries.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 06, 2024, 06:06:35 PM

Or it coudl be a recipe to disaster if you think that way....

Only if you're gambling while considering certain factors at hand.The unaddicted gamblers will go unpunished;but to those that gamble with desperation and greed they'll literally find it difficult to get a grip of this and that'll lead them into uncontrollably loss and regret.
Gambling cannot solve the hard times(poverty),but alas,Set a boundary between gambling and getting addicted to gambling.

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Quote from: Sarah Azhari on November 06, 2024, 11:04:37 PM

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

I am not sure if addicted gamblers can realize they become addicted to gambling but that could be right because they will see that they don't have any property anymore. But that will not stop them from playing gambling because they will search more ways to have money and keep playing gambling. If that is happen to poor people, they will have a big problem in their life and they will difficult to solves the problem. That is also what may happens to those who consider gambling as a source of income especially if they think that gambling can solve poverty.

he should be a professional person if want to make gambling as main income. Don't do gambling as part-time, he must focus on what he was doing. I have a friend who always focus on what he doing, gambling. He have family with 3 child, and he doesn't work like what people did, he just gambling on his home, and received profit with it. he can provide his family and and pay all installments. I always ask him how he can do that, but he just saying bet and bet, he don't tell me to how he managed it all.

To become a professional gambler you need to gain extensive experience and guide yourself through patience. There are more chances of winning in gambling by betting here than in online casinos or other sites. may have a higher chance of losing. From my experience I can say that no one can tell you any key mantra to win more in gambling although I imagine many like your friend have chosen gambling as a profession.

I am interested in gambling part time as a working person and play it regularly and I only do it for fun with self control. You can gamble part time but you should control yourself from getting addicted.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 06, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

I am not sure if addicted gamblers can realize they become addicted to gambling but that could be right because they will see that they don't have any property anymore. But that will not stop them from playing gambling because they will search more ways to have money and keep playing gambling. If that is happen to poor people, they will have a big problem in their life and they will difficult to solves the problem. That is also what may happens to those who consider gambling as a source of income especially if they think that gambling can solve poverty.

They will not realize that they are addicted to gambling, but I think they will realize when they have lost a lot of money or even assets that were previously owned that were sold because they were gambled on. I am sure that everyone who is addicted will experience where they can realize that everything they have done is too excessive to the point of bankruptcy that they should not have. Most people who gamble tend to experience losses and indeed some of them have their lives destroyed, this is not desired but many experience it.
It is very wrong of course to think that gambling is a source of steady income, while the existing victory cannot be obtained with certainty. Whether they are rich or poor, no one can get consistent victory in gambling, it is something that is very unlikely to happen.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 06, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

I am not sure if addicted gamblers can realize they become addicted to gambling but that could be right because they will see that they don't have any property anymore. But that will not stop them from playing gambling because they will search more ways to have money and keep playing gambling. If that is happen to poor people, they will have a big problem in their life and they will difficult to solves the problem. That is also what may happens to those who consider gambling as a source of income especially if they think that gambling can solve poverty.

he should be a professional person if want to make gambling as main income. Don't do gambling as part-time, he must focus on what he was doing. I have a friend who always focus on what he doing, gambling. He have family with 3 child, and he doesn't work like what people did, he just gambling on his home, and received profit with it. he can provide his family and and pay all installments. I always ask him how he can do that, but he just saying bet and bet, he don't tell me to how he managed it all.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on November 06, 2024, 09:02:37 PM

I am not sure if addicted gamblers can realize they become addicted to gambling but that could be right because they will see that they don't have any property anymore. But that will not stop them from playing gambling because they will search more ways to have money and keep playing gambling. If that is happen to poor people, they will have a big problem in their life and they will difficult to solves the problem. That is also what may happens to those who consider gambling as a source of income especially if they think that gambling can solve poverty.

There will be those who can realize it but there are also those who cannot realize it because they already have dirty mind, this means not being able to think clearly or even understand what their mistakes are in gambling and what conditions are happening to themselves, it is very possible for an addict.
Money is also not reason for an addict to stop gambling, there will be other activities that are done to make money and it will be easy for anyone to have money by doing anything including crime, this is the worst condition for gambling addict.

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Quote from: uche6215 on October 06, 2024, 05:50:36 PM

Infact gambling has made many to go broke and live in poverty many has lost their life savings and even pension in gambling, I am of the view that gambling should be controlled by the government of each country and that there should be a maximum amount of money one should use in gambling.

Just as gambling is a shortcut to poverty, many have become rich quickly by gambling. I have seen most people become destitute by gambling, very few become rich. Actually gambling depends on your luck, if your luck is good you can win and if your luck is not good you can't win. Now when gambling, those who are more greedy and bet more amount will become destitute if they lose by luck. So don't gamble with more money than you can afford to lose. Yes, gambling is good for fun so if someone wants to gamble for fun it would be better to spend 2-5% of his income. A person who is too greedy in gambling will become destitute.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

I am not sure if addicted gamblers can realize they become addicted to gambling but that could be right because they will see that they don't have any property anymore. But that will not stop them from playing gambling because they will search more ways to have money and keep playing gambling. If that is happen to poor people, they will have a big problem in their life and they will difficult to solves the problem. That is also what may happens to those who consider gambling as a source of income especially if they think that gambling can solve poverty.

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Quote from: irsykes on November 06, 2024, 02:42:49 PM

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Actually in this case I think they are of the same mind because at the end of the day gambling is not such a thing but it does become a selfish last resort done by expecting luck to favor them.

They realize that gambling is not a suitable place but this is the last way when they want to get entertainment by expecting to benefit from the entertainment created especially for some people who do seem to impose their will they will try all ways to get profit here but it is precisely things like this that make them destroyed in the end because the money that has been collected slowly belongs to the casino because indeed the luck they have will all remain the same where the gambler will lose to the dealer.

if they have ever felt victory in gambling they will have a sense of curiosity and put hope for victory in the days needed. without realizing it they will fall into addiction. no matter how mature people are, their place is hypocritical, they can keep secrets about the destruction and pain of their own actions. because I see many people no matter how mature when their economic exams must have a day where they will act to play gambling

No, I'm not going to say that this is hypocrisy but I do agree when I say that in this case there will be a lot of gamblers who do keep the pain of losses because it's a natural thing but when it comes to big expectations and continuing to gamble without knowing the direction it doesn't show that they are mature in doing things because we certainly know that in the end when someone who can be said to be responsible for gambling is those who do gamble with financial knowledge and are responsible for what they do in gambling.

It is not that in this case we never make mistakes because surely everyone must have felt that way but responsible gamblers are those who do manage to take advantage and good situations from what they have felt and evaluate so that in the future it is even better not to fall into the same and repeated situations.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on November 05, 2024, 07:15:04 AM

we should always show how we care about our friends but in a loving way, sometimes this is hard, of course, but truth is better than lying any day of the week
if a foundation of a relationship is being honest with each other it will be easier to solve emotional problems that can arrive
like let's say your wife or husband spending the kids school payment on a parlay

We can be truthful to them.

But being caring as that gives them the wrong impression. Instead of thinking positively that their friends are worried about their gambling thoughts.

They're going to think of those tips badly and resort that these friends are fake and they simply want them put down.

We like to think about ourselves as rational and being driven by logic but this is not true, people often rely on their gut feelings to take important decisions, so you could do everything in your power to show a person that their gambling is getting out of control and they may need to reduce it a little bit, and instead of seeing the truth and be thankful for it, they will think that you are trying to control their lives and accuse you of doing so, and this will happen even if you were being extremely respectful while doing so.

It's tiresome if we push them with how we're concerning about their gambling problems. I am not as pushy anymore as before.

Because there's the misleading thought that are being developed when you care too much for these people. Few words, few reminders I think they're all enough for them.

If they will listen, that's nice but if they don't then at least we gave them some reminders and we're not at fault that we didn't advised them what to do.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on November 06, 2024, 03:37:18 PM

Quote from: Fredomago on October 30, 2024, 02:16:04 PM

Your decision needs to be aligned with how you set your limits and expectations and not by just following your emotions which most of the time been dominated by greed and aggression.

If you doubt things are as you say my friend, I think that first of all we as humans, before we are traders, market speculators, even investors, well we should be people who should imagine all the scenarios, if we play badly it is lost money, but if we play well we double the money, but at what price will we take that risk? Are we in a position to take that risk? We should imagine the worst scenario which is to lose all the money, and if possible, what should we do next? If we have an alternative plan that does not affect our lives in an impressive way, then we take it, but if not? What would we do? That is what before playing we should think, analyze and decide how far we can risk , for me that is playing intelligently.

As long as in the worse case scenario we are not worried about the consequences then it means we can take that risk no matter what and as I said don't care about the consequences of our action. The problem is that people with such possibility are a minor percentage compared to most normal people who are not gambling for fun (despite them saying otherwise) and are gambling to make more money, this lead to inevitable more losing of money with the passing of time and this is truly the shortcut to poverty. The worse thing is that most people do it unconsciously by keep playing and trying every day and then in the end when they lose money the become stressed, depressed even some times and all sort of sadness status that a human being with emotions can experience. May be we should try some military persons or some religious persons to gamble and see how strong is their self will, I would love seeing such an experiment.

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Quote from: Fredomago on October 30, 2024, 02:16:04 PM

Your decision needs to be aligned with how you set your limits and expectations and not by just following your emotions which most of the time been dominated by greed and aggression.

If you doubt things are as you say my friend, I think that first of all we as humans, before we are traders, market speculators, even investors, well we should be people who should imagine all the scenarios, if we play badly it is lost money, but if we play well we double the money, but at what price will we take that risk? Are we in a position to take that risk? We should imagine the worst scenario which is to lose all the money, and if possible, what should we do next? If we have an alternative plan that does not affect our lives in an impressive way, then we take it, but if not? What would we do? That is what before playing we should think, analyze and decide how far we can risk , for me that is playing intelligently.

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on November 06, 2024, 03:19:21 PM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 06, 2024, 06:06:35 PM

Or it coudl be a recipe to disaster if you think that way....

It's a recipe for disaster indeed..I was having a conversation with a female friend and I told her I lost some money in gambling but I was shocked when she told me that she lost some money too, I didn't know she was a gambler until she told me..I asked why she couldn't stop even after multiple losses, she replied, it's seemed like the fastest way to make money..The moment you have this thought you will start losing because you are playing out of desperation to make money, the same way it's easy to win that's the same way you can lose easily.

The reason for continuing to gamble is not about how to get easy money, because I think that is not the right reason for you to continue gambling. Because, when you continue to gamble even though you realize that you often lose rather than win, then the right reason is only about addiction and having fun in the gambling game itself, and not about being a quick way to make money. Because after all, if you have a reason to make quickmoney in gambling, then you can't lose too often. So, the one thing that keeps you gambling is about addiction, because when you are addicted you no longer care about losing or winning.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 06, 2024, 06:06:35 PM

Or it coudl be a recipe to disaster if you think that way....

It's a recipe for disaster indeed..I was having a conversation with a female friend and I told her I lost some money in gambling but I was shocked when she told me that she lost some money too, I didn't know she was a gambler until she told me..I asked why she couldn't stop even after multiple losses, she replied, it's seemed like the fastest way to make money..The moment you have this thought you will start losing because you are playing out of desperation to make money, the same way it's easy to win that's the same way you can lose easily.

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In our world there are not so many free entertainment so everything has to be paid for and gambling is no exception. Those who believe that gambling is an easy way to make money initially has a wrong idea about this area of entertainment. Win in gambling of course you can, but always remember that the winnings are formed from the lost money other players, because gambling is a zero-sum game.

Actually in this case I think they are of the same mind because at the end of the day gambling is not such a thing but it does become a selfish last resort done by expecting luck to favor them.

They realize that gambling is not a suitable place but this is the last way when they want to get entertainment by expecting to benefit from the entertainment created especially for some people who do seem to impose their will they will try all ways to get profit here but it is precisely things like this that make them destroyed in the end because the money that has been collected slowly belongs to the casino because indeed the luck they have will all remain the same where the gambler will lose to the dealer.

if they have ever felt victory in gambling they will have a sense of curiosity and put hope for victory in the days needed. without realizing it they will fall into addiction. no matter how mature people are, their place is hypocritical, they can keep secrets about the destruction and pain of their own actions. because I see many people no matter how mature when their economic exams must have a day where they will act to play gambling

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on November 06, 2024, 08:24:40 AM

Addicted gamblers will usually start to realize it themselves when they finally sell their property for their uncontrolled gambling needs. and when everything is gone, maybe only regret is left.
Gamblers who finally consider gambling as a source of income are those who previously got some wins that could exceed their income from their jobs. thinking getting wins from the game is easier and produces more than having to work hard to work and be tiring.

We are humans and our psychology pushes us to strange decisions. For example, if we don't like our job, we will look for any hobby that can give us income on the side, just to quit our job. And we will also look for those who are successfully engaged in gambling, to say to ourselves "this guy lives happily and richly, and I can do the same". But in reality, this is a dead end and not a way out of the situation.

I think it is a decision that occurs because of the urge of a stressful situation, such as having financial problems, having a job with a minimum wage that is unable to cover all living expenses or being in debt because of something can also trigger mental and psychological stress on a person, and of course as we know that when someone is influenced by a lot of pressure from various problems they experience, then of course various decisions that are far from rational are very possible for them to do, as you exemplified, namely it is very possible for them to assume that they can get a big win like what other people get, such as streamers in a show until finally the idea actually leads them to a much worse situation. On the other hand, this is the reason why common sense and rational thinking must always be maintained and used every time you find something new.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 06, 2024, 06:58:11 PM

Gambling sites can be regulated by the government but talking about control and discipline on gambling, it's not on the government already but should come from the gamblers' mindset. Otherwise, if they pursue gambling without setting limits and just gamble with all their funds, then it's highly possible that they will end up losing all their hard-earned money and become homeless due to their gambling addiction. Take note that falling into poverty because of gambling habits is always a choice because of wrong decision making and irresponsible gambling habits.

You are right, when it comes to self control and discipline the government are incapable of doing that because it's an individual thing, the main reason why a lot of gamblers keep chasing the market is because they try to get back what they have lost, this would make them lose their hard-earned money. Like you said wrong decision making and irresponsible gambling habits can lead to poverty, it's your responsibility as a gambler to keep things balanced, stake Only what you can afford to lose.

the government can try to teach you discipline and self control but for real, do you really think they care?
politicians are way more interested and sucking your monetary energy until the last cent of it and leave you
it's crazy but it's just how it is

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