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Gambling is basically a tempting activity where they lure people and people gamble in the hope of getting more money. Although people often become addicted to gambling, they do not exercise awareness as a result. Those who gamble can never save, rather they lose the amount of money they have saved in gambling. In my opinion, most people gamble because they are poor, they are addicted to gambling with the aim of increasing their money quickly. The poor are always emotional, they often lose their money when they gamble and fail to control that emotion. So, one should never get upset while gambling, but one should play with patience and gambling is not a good sign for the poor. Most of the time, it is seen that the rich gamble only for fun and entertainment, but the poor always choose gambling as a source of earning money. So I think gambling should never be chosen as the main source of income, but it would be best if those who have more money gamble.

If we can control ourselves better, we will not have to tempts from gambling because we know that gambling is part of entertainment that we don't have to playing gambling too often. If we want to playing gambling, we will use limitation to prevents the big lost and we always remember that gambling is not a place to make money. We also know that gambling can not solves the poverty matters because we use money to make money which we can not always get it. That will be different if we works as employee or officer so we can makes money and that is our source of income. We will not try to spends too much money in gambling because we always remember that gambling can make us lose too much.

When they lose control and have an intention to make money to solve the poverty matters, they will just lose that money but they can not make money. So it is better we also realize the fact that gambling is not a way to make money.

yes, gambling is for fun and we should never gamble with more than what we can afford to lose, though for many people they approach it with a lot of hope and dreams and end up crashing their net worth due to addiction
addiction usually don't let people see clearly, it's heavy.

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Quote from: Bitcoin_people on January 03, 2025, 10:26:33 PM

Gambling is basically a tempting activity where they lure people and people gamble in the hope of getting more money. Although people often become addicted to gambling, they do not exercise awareness as a result. Those who gamble can never save, rather they lose the amount of money they have saved in gambling. In my opinion, most people gamble because they are poor, they are addicted to gambling with the aim of increasing their money quickly. The poor are always emotional, they often lose their money when they gamble and fail to control that emotion. So, one should never get upset while gambling, but one should play with patience and gambling is not a good sign for the poor. Most of the time, it is seen that the rich gamble only for fun and entertainment, but the poor always choose gambling as a source of earning money. So I think gambling should never be chosen as the main source of income, but it would be best if those who have more money gamble.

If we can control ourselves better, we will not have to tempts from gambling because we know that gambling is part of entertainment that we don't have to playing gambling too often. If we want to playing gambling, we will use limitation to prevents the big lost and we always remember that gambling is not a place to make money. We also know that gambling can not solves the poverty matters because we use money to make money which we can not always get it. That will be different if we works as employee or officer so we can makes money and that is our source of income. We will not try to spends too much money in gambling because we always remember that gambling can make us lose too much.

When they lose control and have an intention to make money to solve the poverty matters, they will just lose that money but they can not make money. So it is better we also realize the fact that gambling is not a way to make money.

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I think it depends on the person and the approach they have towards gambling, I understand that in most cases gambling often causes problems that ruin a person's life especially in terms of financial ruin but I think rationally it shouldn't have happened to you if from the start you knew about what and how gambling really is, because then you would know your own limits, or simply put it that if you have a responsible approach then you should be free from the problem of poverty due to gambling.

Moreover, there is absolutely no coercion or even threats from the casino to us to always gamble, right? So actually what makes us experience many problems due to gambling is because it is our own actions that cannot control ourselves and limit our approach to gambling, basically everything will not have too bad an impact if you know what you are facing.

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Gambling is basically a tempting activity where they lure people and people gamble in the hope of getting more money. Although people often become addicted to gambling, they do not exercise awareness as a result. Those who gamble can never save, rather they lose the amount of money they have saved in gambling. In my opinion, most people gamble because they are poor, they are addicted to gambling with the aim of increasing their money quickly. The poor are always emotional, they often lose their money when they gamble and fail to control that emotion. So, one should never get upset while gambling, but one should play with patience and gambling is not a good sign for the poor. Most of the time, it is seen that the rich gamble only for fun and entertainment, but the poor always choose gambling as a source of earning money. So I think gambling should never be chosen as the main source of income, but it would be best if those who have more money gamble.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 01, 2025, 02:13:44 PM

gambling is not supposed to be a charity (even though it would be interesting to see gambling with charity components
losing it all is never a good idea, it can be painfull and emotionally disturbing, much better to avoid this possibility completely if possible

always avoid the risk of ruin

I have no absolute knowledge of whether there is any inherent connection between charity and gambling, but I believe so in my opinion.
Gambling is never a charity, a charity is a designated fund for donations. There is a process of just donating to charity, on the other hand, if you lose in gambling, all the capital is more likely to be ruined.

That's the actual reason why I mentioned that it isn't a charity and it was designed to make money and not to give any money to their participants, just like what you just mentioned, when you lose to gambling everything got ruined and there's no way that you can recover that unless you will try some luck though it might add more to your losing amount if luck won't allow you to win.

It's something that most gamblers needs to understand, play with an amount that you are willing to let go and avoid exceeding to prevent any aggression that may push you to keep aiming for more.

How foolish for someone to have this kind of mentality on which they do really believe that they can make money with gambling and on a constant manner on which this is really that very indeed wrong thing when it comes into this aspect. If you've been that too positive towards gambling results then it will really be bringing out that kind of desperation on which this is something make you having that excessive spending of money through it. It will really be that normal that casinos will really be giving or making out promotions on which it does look cool as possible as they can because they do really want things to be interesting to hook up people to play and its true that this is a business and not charity. People do really get fooled and ending up that those bonuses are that giving them some advantage. lol

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 02, 2025, 06:34:09 PM

yes, specially if you expose yourself to bets in the style all or nothing, ruin is always an option, it just takes one small mistake.

That reminds me that I myself used to play this type of game technique when I played poker on many occasions at a site called betcoinpoker, the only software was free and apart from that there were tournaments 24 hours a day, and it was very exciting because they were all pvp and sometimes when I was already very lost I would opt for going all-in and sometimes I would win, but that was something that was very optional because I remember that you could participate in these games for free, and some other online championships also had to leave a payment in mbtc, how I would like this type of games to come back like that, it was pure fun, but of course sometimes this type of events happen when you play with the martingale, that is why that strategy is not recommended.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on January 01, 2025, 02:29:53 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 01, 2025, 02:13:44 PM

gambling is not supposed to be a charity (even though it would be interesting to see gambling with charity components
losing it all is never a good idea, it can be painfull and emotionally disturbing, much better to avoid this possibility completely if possible

always avoid the risk of ruin

I have no absolute knowledge of whether there is any inherent connection between charity and gambling, but I believe so in my opinion.
Gambling is never a charity, a charity is a designated fund for donations. There is a process of just donating to charity, on the other hand, if you lose in gambling, all the capital is more likely to be ruined.

I haven't seen something like that yet but definitely see some potential on this possibility

like a "charity fi" or gamble for charity, something like that

yes, specially if you expose yourself to bets in the style all or nothing, ruin is always an option, it just takes one small mistake.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on January 01, 2025, 02:29:53 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 01, 2025, 02:13:44 PM

gambling is not supposed to be a charity (even though it would be interesting to see gambling with charity components
losing it all is never a good idea, it can be painfull and emotionally disturbing, much better to avoid this possibility completely if possible

always avoid the risk of ruin

I have no absolute knowledge of whether there is any inherent connection between charity and gambling, but I believe so in my opinion.
Gambling is never a charity, a charity is a designated fund for donations. There is a process of just donating to charity, on the other hand, if you lose in gambling, all the capital is more likely to be ruined.

That's the actual reason why I mentioned that it isn't a charity and it was designed to make money and not to give any money to their participants, just like what you just mentioned, when you lose to gambling everything got ruined and there's no way that you can recover that unless you will try some luck though it might add more to your losing amount if luck won't allow you to win.

It's something that most gamblers needs to understand, play with an amount that you are willing to let go and avoid exceeding to prevent any aggression that may push you to keep aiming for more.

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Quote from: HelliumZ on January 01, 2025, 02:29:53 PM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 01, 2025, 02:13:44 PM

gambling is not supposed to be a charity (even though it would be interesting to see gambling with charity components
losing it all is never a good idea, it can be painfull and emotionally disturbing, much better to avoid this possibility completely if possible

always avoid the risk of ruin

I have no absolute knowledge of whether there is any inherent connection between charity and gambling, but I believe so in my opinion.
Gambling is never a charity, a charity is a designated fund for donations. There is a process of just donating to charity, on the other hand, if you lose in gambling, all the capital is more likely to be ruined.

That's right, and even if the casino claims that part of the funds will go to some charitable purposes, then most likely it's just a nice way to avoid paying some taxes. Because in the country where I live, organizations can avoid paying taxes in the reporting period to the extent that they spent their earnings on charity. It's funny that organizations often donate to charity funds that belong to these organizations. It's funny and bad.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on January 01, 2025, 02:13:44 PM

gambling is not supposed to be a charity (even though it would be interesting to see gambling with charity components
losing it all is never a good idea, it can be painfull and emotionally disturbing, much better to avoid this possibility completely if possible

always avoid the risk of ruin

I have no absolute knowledge of whether there is any inherent connection between charity and gambling, but I believe so in my opinion.
Gambling is never a charity, a charity is a designated fund for donations. There is a process of just donating to charity, on the other hand, if you lose in gambling, all the capital is more likely to be ruined.

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Adding more pressure with your gambling session, knowing that if you lose your loan money it will adds up to your problem, it's not good using money that you can't afford to lose, instead just play the game with spare money and don't put too much pressure, with that kind of gaming you'll not going to push for more and if you lose, you just go and quit without thinking of adding more money, unlike with aiming differently, you'll be stuck and you'll keep playing to the point that you ends up barrowing to keep your session and to keep on trying to recover.

And that's the mistake majority of newbie gamblers make, thinking the more they gamble, the more closer they are likely to winning a jackpot, of which literally it doesn't always work that way, considering the fact that Casinos always have an edge in terms of profit margin to it's users. While secondly, greed and lack of self control are another factor that triggers people into losing so much money to gambling, because initially, gambling is meant to be treated as fun, and not a major source of income, which is why those who treats gambling as a major source of income always struggle with falling victim into addiction. .

They think that if luck permits then it will be a quick way to earn, nit realizing the fact that gambling is a business and all business are designed to make money, they are not a charity where you can always get money when you needed, at first its for enjoyment and entertainment but when greed start to dominate your emotions and your will changes, it starts to put that pressure and aimed for more.

The big risk that you may take when you are already engaged, losing all your savings and regrets things after are very possible once you have that deep engagement to gambling.

gambling is not supposed to be a charity (even though it would be interesting to see gambling with charity components
losing it all is never a good idea, it can be painfull and emotionally disturbing, much better to avoid this possibility completely if possible

always avoid the risk of ruin

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Quote from: Fredomago on December 28, 2024, 12:34:33 AM

Adding more pressure with your gambling session, knowing that if you lose your loan money it will adds up to your problem, it's not good using money that you can't afford to lose, instead just play the game with spare money and don't put too much pressure, with that kind of gaming you'll not going to push for more and if you lose, you just go and quit without thinking of adding more money, unlike with aiming differently, you'll be stuck and you'll keep playing to the point that you ends up barrowing to keep your session and to keep on trying to recover.

And that's the mistake majority of newbie gamblers make, thinking the more they gamble, the more closer they are likely to winning a jackpot, of which literally it doesn't always work that way, considering the fact that Casinos always have an edge in terms of profit margin to it's users. While secondly, greed and lack of self control are another factor that triggers people into losing so much money to gambling, because initially, gambling is meant to be treated as fun, and not a major source of income, which is why those who treats gambling as a major source of income always struggle with falling victim into addiction. .

They think that if luck permits then it will be a quick way to earn, nit realizing the fact that gambling is a business and all business are designed to make money, they are not a charity where you can always get money when you needed, at first its for enjoyment and entertainment but when greed start to dominate your emotions and your will changes, it starts to put that pressure and aimed for more.

The big risk that you may take when you are already engaged, losing all your savings and regrets things after are very possible once you have that deep engagement to gambling.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on December 26, 2024, 08:18:24 PM

it's crazy because some will dismiss these stories instantly saying they aren't true, even though they are
and others will read about it and ask about it but have no courage to try
takes some special kind of personality to join this side of the force

actually there is no need to have 2 personalities in this case, just follow the flow where we gather, and gamble, if you are ready to bet then you are ready to lose, but if the environment does not allow for better there is nothing wrong if we move away, focus on work to survive and by managing financial patterns poverty can be avoided,

That's the right approach for me.
If you cannot afford it then, don't play at all. I mean, there are those who start hating themselves because they made a wrong decision to gamble and wanted their back that instant. This is where it could lead to chasing losses heavily which will probably lead to poverty next. If you know to yourself that you are going to hate yourself because of your own mistake, don't start it. You save yourself the stress, the money, and the effort of playing and waiting for the jackpot that might not even happen at all.
Gambling is for those who believe they have some spare money to play with, it's better that way to avoid chaos.

yes! gambling should be for those with disposable income, not a way for people to try to get rich, if the odds were better maybe we'd have a different conversation here, but taking into account as it is now this is probably the best idea... you know what I mean?

too many poor people betting money that would be much better if invested than if wasted on the game boards...

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Quote from: Iranus on December 30, 2024, 08:27:58 AM

To be more precise, the cause or path leading to poverty, the culprit is none other than ourselves. If we do not know how to control ourselves, do not know how to manage our finances well...not only gambling but also business or investment can make us poor. It all depends and is up to us to decide, don't blame gambling, investment...if we become poor.

Those who try to blame gambling and claim that it is the cause of poverty will not be surprised if they fail in business and also blame it as the cause of their poverty.

That's the truth, it's just that the moment when gamblers are destroyed occurs because of their inability to control their gambling. They also have to see how gamblers are okay even though they lose. It doesn't mean that those who are okay have better finances. But they have better control than gamblers who end up destroyed because of their own mistakes in gambling. I see many gamblers like that. They are so bad at chasing big wins that they forget what they have bet.

You know, there are other gamblers who are actually very stubborn, the type who, even though they know they shouldn't do it, still do it because from the very beginning of their game they are controlled by their so-called greed.

This is the painful truth: often, even when they see that they are winning, they don't want to stop but continue to gamble. This is the really sad stage of what they do.

Every gamblers with different mentality. There are some gamblers that would keep gambling even when they are losing with the hope of winning later. There are also some gamblers that will stay away from gambling once they have lost money once of twice. There are some gamblers that do not have a job, so they are betting so that they could make some profits to take care of their bill. We need to be wise and know what works for us if we really want to be a consistent gambler. We should be ready for the real business of making money without being greedy.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 30, 2024, 08:32:15 AM

Quote from: Iranus on December 30, 2024, 08:27:58 AM

To be more precise, the cause or path leading to poverty, the culprit is none other than ourselves. If we do not know how to control ourselves, do not know how to manage our finances well...not only gambling but also business or investment can make us poor. It all depends and is up to us to decide, don't blame gambling, investment...if we become poor.

Those who try to blame gambling and claim that it is the cause of poverty will not be surprised if they fail in business and also blame it as the cause of their poverty.

That's the truth, it's just that the moment when gamblers are destroyed occurs because of their inability to control their gambling. They also have to see how gamblers are okay even though they lose. It doesn't mean that those who are okay have better finances. But they have better control than gamblers who end up destroyed because of their own mistakes in gambling. I see many gamblers like that. They are so bad at chasing big wins that they forget what they have bet.

You know, there are other gamblers who are actually very stubborn, the type who, even though they know they shouldn't do it, still do it because from the very beginning of their game they are controlled by their so-called greed.

This is the painful truth: often, even when they see that they are winning, they don't want to stop but continue to gamble. This is the really sad stage of what they do.

Greed is caused by the inability of the gambler to set his limits. The fault is not in gambling but in the behavior of gambling.
I know almost all gamblers may have a hard time with all the gambling that has been done. Many have bad experiences related to excessive gambling or greed from the gambler himself. Even people who are anti-gambling blame gambling, without realizing that the gambler himself puts themselves in trouble.
Having money is not a measure of someone being able to gamble. Many people have a lot of money but do not want to gamble, it is because they cannot afford the risk, the risk that may be created by themselves.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 30, 2024, 08:32:15 AM

Quote from: Iranus on December 30, 2024, 08:27:58 AM

To be more precise, the cause or path leading to poverty, the culprit is none other than ourselves. If we do not know how to control ourselves, do not know how to manage our finances well...not only gambling but also business or investment can make us poor. It all depends and is up to us to decide, don't blame gambling, investment...if we become poor.

Those who try to blame gambling and claim that it is the cause of poverty will not be surprised if they fail in business and also blame it as the cause of their poverty.

That's the truth, it's just that the moment when gamblers are destroyed occurs because of their inability to control their gambling. They also have to see how gamblers are okay even though they lose. It doesn't mean that those who are okay have better finances. But they have better control than gamblers who end up destroyed because of their own mistakes in gambling. I see many gamblers like that. They are so bad at chasing big wins that they forget what they have bet.

Better control and not getting to deep as they are able to accept that they took the risk and they didn't manage to win, those are the things that very important in terms of controlling your emotion and setting up your limitation, the more you understand the better chance that you'll not going to fall and be trap with how gambling works.

It's your good decision making and good balance with all the factors that you need to consider when you are inside this kind of venue, either aiming to have some fun or aiming to earn some if luck permits you to win.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 29, 2024, 03:59:53 PM

Hmm I can confirm that gambling can or indeed allows someone to become a means to make someone poor because after all gambling is an activity that involves money and risk, but in my opinion it also depends on how you treat gambling, because actually even though the activity has risks but if you treat it correctly then in my opinion you should not experience financial decline due to gambling.
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In contrast though, I have noticed there are many people who come from Africa and are active participants of this forum. In many African countries Islam is the majority religion and (as we all know) there are no grey areas when comes to gambling for those who follow the religion of Muhammad. To those people there is no "correct" way to handle or partake in gambling, to them the whole concept and idea of gambling is morally incorrect and hence why they completely avoid it.
I have not read the Koram myself, but I think I remember from a summary of it that Muhammad himself told his followers gambling was a way for the devil, the enemy to manipulate humankind, same with alcohol. So he declared both of them Haram.
It is interesting how there is no negotiation or middle terms about some topics for some cultures in the east of the planet, while the west is more open.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on December 30, 2024, 08:32:15 AM

Quote from: Iranus on December 30, 2024, 08:27:58 AM

To be more precise, the cause or path leading to poverty, the culprit is none other than ourselves. If we do not know how to control ourselves, do not know how to manage our finances well...not only gambling but also business or investment can make us poor. It all depends and is up to us to decide, don't blame gambling, investment...if we become poor.

Those who try to blame gambling and claim that it is the cause of poverty will not be surprised if they fail in business and also blame it as the cause of their poverty.

That's the truth, it's just that the moment when gamblers are destroyed occurs because of their inability to control their gambling. They also have to see how gamblers are okay even though they lose. It doesn't mean that those who are okay have better finances. But they have better control than gamblers who end up destroyed because of their own mistakes in gambling. I see many gamblers like that. They are so bad at chasing big wins that they forget what they have bet.

You know, there are other gamblers who are actually very stubborn, the type who, even though they know they shouldn't do it, still do it because from the very beginning of their game they are controlled by their so-called greed.

This is the painful truth: often, even when they see that they are winning, they don't want to stop but continue to gamble. This is the really sad stage of what they do.

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Quote from: Iranus on December 30, 2024, 08:27:58 AM

To be more precise, the cause or path leading to poverty, the culprit is none other than ourselves. If we do not know how to control ourselves, do not know how to manage our finances well...not only gambling but also business or investment can make us poor. It all depends and is up to us to decide, don't blame gambling, investment...if we become poor.

Those who try to blame gambling and claim that it is the cause of poverty will not be surprised if they fail in business and also blame it as the cause of their poverty.

That's the truth, it's just that the moment when gamblers are destroyed occurs because of their inability to control their gambling. They also have to see how gamblers are okay even though they lose. It doesn't mean that those who are okay have better finances. But they have better control than gamblers who end up destroyed because of their own mistakes in gambling. I see many gamblers like that. They are so bad at chasing big wins that they forget what they have bet.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on December 29, 2024, 03:59:53 PM

Hmm I can confirm that gambling can or indeed allows someone to become a means to make someone poor because after all gambling is an activity that involves money and risk, but in my opinion it also depends on how you treat gambling, because actually even though the activity has risks but if you treat it correctly then in my opinion you should not experience financial decline due to gambling.

On the other hand we can see that there are still or even many active gamblers who are still fine, or I mean do not experience any problems in their financial situation even though they are involved in gambling, IMO gambling will not cause problems if you know how to control it.

To be more precise, the cause or path leading to poverty, the culprit is none other than ourselves. If we do not know how to control ourselves, do not know how to manage our finances well...not only gambling but also business or investment can make us poor. It all depends and is up to us to decide, don't blame gambling, investment...if we become poor.

Those who try to blame gambling and claim that it is the cause of poverty will not be surprised if they fail in business and also blame it as the cause of their poverty.

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