GAMBLING: Skill-based vs. Chance-based - page 13.

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Chance based for a beginner is a disaster waiting to happen, remember that beginner's luck can happen and we know what happens after that, losses after losses because they want to replicate their win, skill based should be the go to because you're more likely to win there since miracles don't happen often.

Sometimes, a beginner can have better luck than a regular gambler as they do not think about the game and only play based on their feelings. They are easygoing with the loss and still using their money to invite luck to come to them. But in the skills-based, I think the beginner should learn more details about the game to have a chance to win. In this way, I think chance-based will be better for a beginner to play gambling and do not need to have a high expectation to win the game.

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Chance based for a beginner is a disaster waiting to happen, remember that beginner's luck can happen and we know what happens after that, losses after losses because they want to replicate their win, skill based should be the go to because you're more likely to win there since miracles don't happen often.

imho? There's no such thing as beginner's luck. That's just bs superstition that people want to believe so that they can entice new players whenever they play. Heck, who knows, said beginners luck may have even been manipulated just so that you play more.

I believe in beginner's luck. Maybe you called that superstition but I think that is happening to some beginners in their first experience in gambling. But they do not tell their story to the public and keep them secret for them. I do not know if that has been manipulated or not but I think that is really happening.

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You might not really know the level of lucky you have or how lucky you can be when you change your style of gambling but the reasons why many persons choose to stay away from luck base gambling is still not clear. Sometimes luck can just appear to you without knowing the outcome. The more you gambler on lucky base game, the more you will get to know what up.

Because the chances of winning in luck-based games are so slim, I believe they will shift to skill-based games. We all know that the pot money in luck-based games is huge, but you'll spend a lot of time, money, and effort to win. Skillful base games yield large rewards as well, but you must be a skilled player. But when luck strikes, that's a different thing.

But that removes the impact of luck-based games. It has its own allure, proof of it is how gambling casinos, lotteries, heck, even loot boxes in games could be included are thriving and are an integral part of the system it belongs to. Both have their own allures, but it doesn't mean that they would shift to skill-based if they really want it. It's just that simple tbh.

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Chance based for a beginner is a disaster waiting to happen, remember that beginner's luck can happen and we know what happens after that, losses after losses because they want to replicate their win, skill based should be the go to because you're more likely to win there since miracles don't happen often.

imho? There's no such thing as beginner's luck. That's just bs superstition that people want to believe so that they can entice new players whenever they play. Heck, who knows, said beginners luck may have even been manipulated just so that you play more.

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Skill-based is good you have a good chance of winning if you prefer this kind of betting, but it's not my stuff I have a job and I do betting just to have some fun throw caution to the wind, and get risky, chanced based is daring to take a chance to win and see if it's your lucky day or your turn to be lucky, that is why dice, mine and crash game are my stuff when gambling

Skill based games are only for gamblers who dont want to rely alone in luck and has time to study the game and apply a strategy to win. On the other side chance based games are exciting because you're clueless of what to expect and luck is the only thing that can make you win. In my case I prefer the skill based games because I like to spend time thinking of ways to have an edge to win.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on September 20, 2021, 08:53:55 PM

Because the chances of winning in luck-based games are so slim, I believe they will shift to skill-based games. We all know that the pot money in luck-based games is huge, but you'll spend a lot of time, money, and effort to win. Skillful base games yield large rewards as well, but you must be a skilled player. But when luck strikes, that's a different thing.

The paradox is that profits from games based on luck and profits from games based on skill are about the same (negative). In any competitive activity, the main income is received by those who are at the very top, the rest only spend time and effort trying to get there. In this sense, games based on luck have a definite advantage - you can get the jackpot with the same chance as any other player.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on September 20, 2021, 08:53:55 PM

Because the chances of winning in luck-based games are so slim, I believe they will shift to skill-based games. We all know that the pot money in luck-based games is huge, but you'll spend a lot of time, money, and effort to win. Skillful base games yield large rewards as well, but you must be a skilled player. But when luck strikes, that's a different thing.

Nah, I guess they both have in similar percentage/chances of winning. What skill-based gambling is in a huge advantage is you can do something to change the outcome of the game, while pure luck based games has a fixed outcome.
The reason why I said they have a very similar chances for you to win is that, you're still unsure If you win as there are always a good or better opponent than you. Skill-based gambling like Poker also depends on slight luck especially with how you handle when you always have good hands. Bad hands are considered unlucky but you can still win it when you know how to handle your opponent.

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In about Gambling for me it's better to use or we incline in the skill-based than chance-based cause in skill-based we can emphasize our moves in order just to more excellent to perform the game so by using our skill there's a big chances to win more cause we already know the movement and we can predict the weakness of our opponent besides of the chance-based it's a probability to win because the destiny know our lucky day if we could win the game.

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Quote from: kayvie on May 14, 2020, 04:25:33 AM

Well, I really don't have the luck when it comes to gambling, especially when I play dice or slot machines, I always lose when I play chance-based games. So, I am also into playing skill-based, poker is also one of my choices.

You might not really know the level of lucky you have or how lucky you can be when you change your style of gambling but the reasons why many persons choose to stay away from luck base gambling is still not clear. Sometimes luck can just appear to you without knowing the outcome. The more you gambler on lucky base game, the more you will get to know what up.

If that is about luck, well, there is nothing we can do to invite luck to come to us, but if we are lucky, the feelings can not express because we will be too happy to enjoy our winning.
A gambler can play gambling on the skills base or luck base simultaneously to expect to win one of those types of gambling games.
Maybe they can win on the gambling games base skills and in the next hour, they can win on the luck on the gambling game base luck.
But no matter what gambling games we will play, we should remember that gambling needs to be controlled to avoid addiction that can come to us.

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Quote from: Desmong on September 20, 2021, 05:18:16 PM

Quote from: kayvie on May 14, 2020, 04:25:33 AM

Well, I really don't have the luck when it comes to gambling, especially when I play dice or slot machines, I always lose when I play chance-based games. So, I am also into playing skill-based, poker is also one of my choices.

You might not really know the level of lucky you have or how lucky you can be when you change your style of gambling but the reasons why many persons choose to stay away from luck base gambling is still not clear. Sometimes luck can just appear to you without knowing the outcome. The more you gambler on lucky base game, the more you will get to know what up.

Because the chances of winning in luck-based games are so slim, I believe they will shift to skill-based games. We all know that the pot money in luck-based games is huge, but you'll spend a lot of time, money, and effort to win. Skillful base games yield large rewards as well, but you must be a skilled player. But when luck strikes, that's a different thing.

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Quote from: kayvie on May 14, 2020, 04:25:33 AM

Well, I really don't have the luck when it comes to gambling, especially when I play dice or slot machines, I always lose when I play chance-based games. So, I am also into playing skill-based, poker is also one of my choices.

You might not really know the level of lucky you have or how lucky you can be when you change your style of gambling but the reasons why many persons choose to stay away from luck base gambling is still not clear. Sometimes luck can just appear to you without knowing the outcome. The more you gambler on lucky base game, the more you will get to know what up.

Dont really believed on transferring on other places will really make you lucky because everything is random even if you do deal up with strategic type of games but if luck isnt on your side you would definitely still lose.

People does have different preference when it comes to games that they would like to play because some do like instantaneous type of profits and results and some do really love to deal with those games which

you can make use your skill at your advantage.There's no actually need to choose because its our money to be used so we can do all we want.

As you said people have different preferences. While at the same time, people also have a habit of doing something like a lucky charm to somehow increase their winning rate. In an RNG luck-based game, it's usual to see some different methods to attempt attracting luck. Imagine, in an RPG game where upgrading in most cases is luck-based, characters owners have different ways to increase the luck even they know it's RNG. They will do it based on time, based on location, and many more. What's more in gambling where money is at stake so gamblers not just doing a quick bet.

Nothing wrong after all. Just follow what we think we are comfortable with.

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Quote from: Desmong on September 20, 2021, 05:18:16 PM

Quote from: kayvie on May 14, 2020, 04:25:33 AM

Well, I really don't have the luck when it comes to gambling, especially when I play dice or slot machines, I always lose when I play chance-based games. So, I am also into playing skill-based, poker is also one of my choices.

You might not really know the level of lucky you have or how lucky you can be when you change your style of gambling but the reasons why many persons choose to stay away from luck base gambling is still not clear. Sometimes luck can just appear to you without knowing the outcome. The more you gambler on lucky base game, the more you will get to know what up.

Dont really believed on transferring on other places will really make you lucky because everything is random even if you do deal up with strategic type of games but if luck isnt on your side you would definitely still lose.

People does have different preference when it comes to games that they would like to play because some do like instantaneous type of profits and results and some do really love to deal with those games which

you can make use your skill at your advantage.There's no actually need to choose because its our money to be used so we can do all we want.

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Quote from: kayvie on May 14, 2020, 04:25:33 AM

Well, I really don't have the luck when it comes to gambling, especially when I play dice or slot machines, I always lose when I play chance-based games. So, I am also into playing skill-based, poker is also one of my choices.

You might not really know the level of lucky you have or how lucky you can be when you change your style of gambling but the reasons why many persons choose to stay away from luck base gambling is still not clear. Sometimes luck can just appear to you without knowing the outcome. The more you gambler on lucky base game, the more you will get to know what up.

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Skill-based is good you have a good chance of winning if you prefer this kind of betting, but it's not my stuff I have a job and I do betting just to have some fun throw caution to the wind, and get risky, chanced based is daring to take a chance to win and see if it's your lucky day or your turn to be lucky, that is why dice, mine and crash game are my stuff when gambling

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We shouldn't always rely on luck to win in gambling. We will never improve with that.

We need to try finding a way for that luck to always come to us and improve our winning stats. The strategy on that was only applicable to skill-based games.

Don't expect any skills involves that are needed to beat a house edge games. No one can beat the algorithm intentionally. Pure luck is needed on that part. Other gamblers that are able to stay in the long run on these chance-based games are because they are good at budgeting their bankroll.

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In addition to poker, every game requires skill to choose players need to learn basic skills and tactical awareness during competitive games strategic awareness involves the ability to know your role and to have lasting awareness and the ability to make good decisions on the field. Despite the huge number of club poker its rules are very general and generally the same for each species in the end, the player must collect a combination of five cards whose combination is the strongest win among them.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on September 11, 2021, 08:39:40 AM

Personally I am a fan of both, but if I had to choose between the two then I am choosing skill based. Poker is my all time favorite card game or game that you can find at the casino and when I say poker I mean actual poker, none of that online crap or fast play poker, I like poker when you actually sit down, take your time, bluff etc. When you take bluffing out of the game it's just not as fun.

I agree about online poker - the dominance of bots plus grinders who, with the help of special software, play simultaneously on 20 tables, completely kills the spirit of the game. I would love to play live poker, but most of my friends are not into it and poker itself is prohibited in my country.

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If you have the time and the passion, skill-based is worth trying you have a good chance of winning in skill-based as long as you know the game, you are familiar with players and the team, you can come out with a winable list, chance-based games are for people who just want to enjoy and get entertained they don't want to waste their time and effort analyzing the game, they just go for the roll or what the cards will bring them and accept them as they are.

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Personally I am a fan of both, but if I had to choose between the two then I am choosing skill based. Poker is my all time favorite card game or game that you can find at the casino and when I say poker I mean actual poker, none of that online crap or fast play poker, I like poker when you actually sit down, take your time, bluff etc. When you take bluffing out of the game it's just not as fun.

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In poker it's harder to do. because some things (like cards on the table) is independent from you and your skill.

Then why there are people who are consistently good with poker?

The more time a person spend in doing something the more the chances of getting accustom to the way the is done or function. Game of card is a game of chance which the chances of becoming more lucky to win from random is high combined with skill. Maybe I could say the higher the time spent in learning/doing something, the better the chances of getting it right.

Practice makes perfect, that's why gamblers love to practice to learn more and to be consistent.
However, it's only doable on games that are based on luck, therefore, it's important to focus on games that are proven could make someone win consistent money, and of course, as mentioned, card game, particularly poker is one of those.

If a gambler can practice and manage their money, they will surely improve their skills. But most gamblers will not think much about managing their money instead of trying just to play more and more and that is why many gamblers lose their money in the end. However, if that gambling game is based on luck, no matter how hard we practice, we still have a big chance of losing money without knowing when to win. But if that is about poker, practice can make us become a pro poker players.

That's why the majority of the gamblers are losers because they are serious with their goal of making consistent money, but they don't have the skills in doing it, bankroll management is pretty basic, if you messed up with it, then don't expect that you'll have a profitable journey in gambling.

Actually that's the aim of majority but I think only few of the gamblers earn and that are the people who have proper discipline, although skills is really important but some how we need to be prepared for some situations and learn some ways to exit since not everyday we can earn a huge money of it that's why we set some target profit amount and the one I think decent amount is 20%-30% from our capital winning and the same while losing so that we can secure our daily profit. Although we know that this is not consistent but at least we can assure that once we lose the damage is not huge.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on May 22, 2020, 05:19:28 PM

In poker it's harder to do. because some things (like cards on the table) is independent from you and your skill.

Then why there are people who are consistently good with poker?

The more time a person spend in doing something the more the chances of getting accustom to the way the is done or function. Game of card is a game of chance which the chances of becoming more lucky to win from random is high combined with skill. Maybe I could say the higher the time spent in learning/doing something, the better the chances of getting it right.

Practice makes perfect, that's why gamblers love to practice to learn more and to be consistent.
However, it's only doable on games that are based on luck, therefore, it's important to focus on games that are proven could make someone win consistent money, and of course, as mentioned, card game, particularly poker is one of those.

If a gambler can practice and manage their money, they will surely improve their skills. But most gamblers will not think much about managing their money instead of trying just to play more and more and that is why many gamblers lose their money in the end. However, if that gambling game is based on luck, no matter how hard we practice, we still have a big chance of losing money without knowing when to win. But if that is about poker, practice can make us become a pro poker players.

That's why the majority of the gamblers are losers because they are serious with their goal of making consistent money, but they don't have the skills in doing it, bankroll management is pretty basic, if you messed up with it, then don't expect that you'll have a profitable journey in gambling.

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Quote from: freedomgo on September 11, 2021, 03:38:17 AM

Quote from: Desmong on September 10, 2021, 05:16:24 PM

Quote from: freedomgo on May 23, 2020, 01:31:33 AM

Quote from: johhnyUA on May 22, 2020, 05:19:28 PM

In poker it's harder to do. because some things (like cards on the table) is independent from you and your skill.

Then why there are people who are consistently good with poker?

The more time a person spend in doing something the more the chances of getting accustom to the way the is done or function. Game of card is a game of chance which the chances of becoming more lucky to win from random is high combined with skill. Maybe I could say the higher the time spent in learning/doing something, the better the chances of getting it right.

Practice makes perfect, that's why gamblers love to practice to learn more and to be consistent.
However, it's only doable on games that are based on luck, therefore, it's important to focus on games that are proven could make someone win consistent money, and of course, as mentioned, card game, particularly poker is one of those.

If a gambler can practice and manage their money, they will surely improve their skills. But most gamblers will not think much about managing their money instead of trying just to play more and more and that is why many gamblers lose their money in the end. However, if that gambling game is based on luck, no matter how hard we practice, we still have a big chance of losing money without knowing when to win. But if that is about poker, practice can make us become a pro poker players.

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