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Quote from: Betwrong on December 09, 2024, 10:22:59 AM

Quote from: swogerino on October 21, 2024, 04:50:30 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 21, 2024, 04:35:27 AM

Not all of them are unrealistic. Some people show how they lose a lot before winning something good, I mean even in those videos where there aim is to actually promote the site. If you see that the guy lost $5,000 before winning $20,000, you might wonder do you have that amount on your balance. Can you afford to lose such amount? Considering that, of course, that your win is not guaranteed after that loss.

The problem is that very few of the streamers will keep showing you and record a huge part of the losing streak. Personally I never seen such guys doing that,

Well, I've seen many of such videos. I mean, they win big in the end, but in the beginning they are losing a lot and they are showing it. And if what they lose is much bigger than your usual bank roll, you start thinking "Can I afford that?", "Can I play like that?"

Quote from: swogerino on October 21, 2024, 04:50:30 AM

what I have seen is that almost every streamer when he starts losing he will cut the part of the video where he loses and insert only winning part. In this context they are very dangerous and act like a poison who directly hit the newbies. So there are two sides of the medal here and people should try a bit harder to understand what these streamers do before immediately going and try to copy them.

As I said, not always. So, everyone with brain can understand that trying to copy them is dangerous. Also, there's no point in that. It's all random. You achieve f**k all when you copy someone who previously won big on slots.

Nevertheless, all these streams excite the player, and especially the inexperienced beginner player, simply because they never end with losing money. And almost always we see a happy blogger having fun on the occasion of a big win. And this certainly affects the person who watches such informational content. Even just a reminder of the gambling game itself and the possibility of winning big, which the streamer has just demonstrated, already creates the thought in the brain that it is worth playing, and this can lead to winning. Well, where to play, this is exactly what this streamer suggests. In any case, I consider such advertising aggressive, but I admit that it is effective.

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Quote from: swogerino on October 21, 2024, 04:50:30 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on October 21, 2024, 04:35:27 AM

Not all of them are unrealistic. Some people show how they lose a lot before winning something good, I mean even in those videos where there aim is to actually promote the site. If you see that the guy lost $5,000 before winning $20,000, you might wonder do you have that amount on your balance. Can you afford to lose such amount? Considering that, of course, that your win is not guaranteed after that loss.

The problem is that very few of the streamers will keep showing you and record a huge part of the losing streak. Personally I never seen such guys doing that,

Well, I've seen many of such videos. I mean, they win big in the end, but in the beginning they are losing a lot and they are showing it. And if what they lose is much bigger than your usual bank roll, you start thinking "Can I afford that?", "Can I play like that?"

Quote from: swogerino on October 21, 2024, 04:50:30 AM

what I have seen is that almost every streamer when he starts losing he will cut the part of the video where he loses and insert only winning part. In this context they are very dangerous and act like a poison who directly hit the newbies. So there are two sides of the medal here and people should try a bit harder to understand what these streamers do before immediately going and try to copy them.

As I said, not always. So, everyone with brain can understand that trying to copy them is dangerous. Also, there's no point in that. It's all random. You achieve f**k all when you copy someone who previously won big on slots.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 08, 2024, 11:46:20 AM

Some people here keep saying, that if a streamer is sponsored, we should expect this kind of behaviour.

Well, let me clarify, many streamers have been observed showcasing such ridiculous behaviors even before they were sponsored. And after they got sponsored, they were just making these reactions that staple thing. There's just too much money in this thing especially if you don't care about integrity and ethics.

So just by virtue of being sponsored and showcasing a sponroship, I don't think this absolves anyone from the moral responsibility against their audience. Both the casinos and the streamers are dishonest in that in my opinion.

My question is how do we know that they are not sponsored, when what they do clearly benefits a casino? Even though they say many times that they do not receive anything from the casino, are we going to believe that? I personally do not. Regarding responsibility, the goal of streamers is money, they will not care about their viewers. If they really want to be responsible, then I think they will not stream. But their main goal is to make as much profit as possible, either from viewers or from sponsors.

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Quote from: alani123 on October 20, 2024, 02:06:57 PM

A friend talked to me the other day about how they were tempted to go play some slots after seeing a stream for the last couple of days.

I decided why not and told him to send me a link so we can watch together for a while. During the span of 20 minutes the streamer got at least 3 jackpots of over 100x.
We all know that when playing slots it's more likely than not that you end up burning your entire balance before you can win anything significant. Surely you could get a few wins here and there but not enough to remain in profit forever.

So this got me suspicious and I started digging. On online forums like this one many people have observed that streamers and those doing slot videos on YouTube have very unrealistic streaks.
Of course this raises suspicions but casinos keep doing these sponsored streams.

So I wonder what could possibly be going on here. Is it normal to see so may wins as the streamers get? And if you see this, doesn't it make you less likely to trust a casino hosting something seemingly so suspicious?

If you are a type of viewer on the youtube platform and you see something like what you say op that only shows jackpots, you will really be encouraged to deposit into the casino apps that he is promoting, especially if you are not aware of what they are doing.

Because if you are aware of such streamers, you cannot believe them at first glance because usually such streamers only show demo accounts that is why they do not often lose but always win, or the videos they show are also scripted and are often made by streamers who are paid by their advertisers. So be careful too.

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Some people here keep saying, that if a streamer is sponsored, we should expect this kind of behaviour.

Well, let me clarify, many streamers have been observed showcasing such ridiculous behaviors even before they were sponsored. And after they got sponsored, they were just making these reactions that staple thing. There's just too much money in this thing especially if you don't care about integrity and ethics.

So just by virtue of being sponsored and showcasing a sponroship, I don't think this absolves anyone from the moral responsibility against their audience. Both the casinos and the streamers are dishonest in that in my opinion.

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Quote from: virasog on November 29, 2024, 12:46:36 PM

Quote from: satscraper on November 13, 2024, 04:31:01 AM

I think that the earliest age to start gamble is 21. Youngsters are hot-blooded^{in general}to make the considerable judgment in the course of their gambling particularly when the question is the money they lost. They don't have more than often their own sources to get money thus they either are disingenuous with their parents or ^{what are even worse} commit an offence to get money.

The gambling streams are presented in a way that it is appealing and attracts many people towards gambling. Those videos and streams are publicly available for everyone including the minors. When they see such attractive and easy money making, they will insist on making money from gambling and not focus on the real earnings for making a living.

Setting up wrong expectations will only lead to put hard earned money into gambling only to end up losing it all. This is not only that young blood are attracted to it, but everyone is influenced by flashy advertisements promising easy money. A teenager would be more encouraged to spend their pocket money on bets and streaks of initial wins will make them make wrong decisions because they don't realize that gambling is unpredictable and risk management is something they never learn.

Teenagers who have no experience in gambling will eventually rush into betting their allowance, not because they need to get entertained, but because of those tempting videos and streams that show how gambling can be so profitable. And so they end up losing all their funds without knowing that that’s the reality about gambling.

This is the reason why I made my conclusion that these gambling streamers are totally unreliable. They are paid by the casinos, so they have to do their job as well, even if it means deceiving the innocent people.

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Quote from: TheUltraElite on December 08, 2024, 02:36:43 AM

I keep tabs on the channels like MrHandPay, Pompsie Slots and some other gambling channels on youtube. Selective cherry picking might be the correct case here, they might not record those streaks that have been poor because they dont want the negativity on social media.

But my take is that they try to include as much as they can, even still they are running a business of entertaining the viewers and getting money off their ad revenue and hence their objective is to churn out content at a regular rate even if their losses are more than wins.

Most of them might receive some promotional cash from the casino but I doubt the actual reality of this concept. This might be applicable to official reps of the casino over youtubers.

Since they are sponsored by the casinos, then they should represent only the positive events that could fuel the attraction of the audience, and hid those losses so that they won’t compromise the purpose of such casinos.

Gambling streamers are also said to be high-risk takers, but what we don’t know is that they are not using their own funds, but it’s the sponsored funds that they keep on gambling on the site. And in return, casinos intentionally manipulate the outcome of the bets, just to show to the audience that there is easy money in gambling.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 06, 2024, 12:39:18 PM

So I feel nostalgic for those times when people's lives were, so to speak, simpler, but there was probably relatively less falsehood and lies. And at that time, such human qualities as conscience, honor and nobility were not completely lost. So we must understand that the world is generally rolling towards completely informational deepfakes, especially since AI will try very hard to help humanity quickly slide into the pit of not knowing anything and generally turn into batteries like in "The Matrix". It seems that we are all rapidly moving towards this virtual obscurantism.

The times that people have always dreamed of, when someone else would do everything for them.) In this case, AI will not necessarily do it, there are enough people who are ready to do it for a small fee, people for whom the most important thing is money are ready to deceive other people, but it seems to me that this has always been the case, at any time there were such people, even without high technology.

In general, artificial intelligence will make things done faster and spending less money in the long term, that is that main objective of companies which are focused in developing it, though if we talk about societal changes and the consequences on how people perceive reality and fiction, then I am afraid he is right and artificial intelligence will be abused by people with little morals, in order to manipulate the masses into thinking or following whatever it is more relevant of those behind the curtain.
In the case of gambling streamers or so-called influencers, AI will be used to enhance the positive characteristics of whatever product or services they are offering to their viewers, all of it for the sake of getting more money from sponsorships.
Whatever we see on the internet is about to become even less authentic and false in the years to come and we all will need to learn not to believe what we see on the screen of our smartphones anymore.

Yeah. Perhaps it is true that we all need to prepare for the fact that everything we are shown on the Internet is most likely deepfakes or heavily distorted facts, distorted so that everything is interpreted completely incorrectly. As a result, we will all come to such an information society that will be built on a huge pyramid of false information, naturally leading to completely wrong conclusions and, consequently, actions. In this case, the management of such a society as a whole is greatly simplified since only a few individuals will understand what is really happening. It seems that such a utopia may well come in a couple of decades. Or in a couple of generations of people whom we can already classify as foolish fools who are really incapable of doing anything valuable.

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I keep tabs on the channels like MrHandPay, Pompsie Slots and some other gambling channels on youtube. Selective cherry picking might be the correct case here, they might not record those streaks that have been poor because they dont want the negativity on social media.

But my take is that they try to include as much as they can, even still they are running a business of entertaining the viewers and getting money off their ad revenue and hence their objective is to churn out content at a regular rate even if their losses are more than wins.

Most of them might receive some promotional cash from the casino but I doubt the actual reality of this concept. This might be applicable to official reps of the casino over youtubers.

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Quote from: eisen33 on December 07, 2024, 07:12:43 AM

Quote from: delfastTions on December 06, 2024, 12:39:18 PM

So I feel nostalgic for those times when people's lives were, so to speak, simpler, but there was probably relatively less falsehood and lies. And at that time, such human qualities as conscience, honor and nobility were not completely lost. So we must understand that the world is generally rolling towards completely informational deepfakes, especially since AI will try very hard to help humanity quickly slide into the pit of not knowing anything and generally turn into batteries like in "The Matrix". It seems that we are all rapidly moving towards this virtual obscurantism.

The times that people have always dreamed of, when someone else would do everything for them.) In this case, AI will not necessarily do it, there are enough people who are ready to do it for a small fee, people for whom the most important thing is money are ready to deceive other people, but it seems to me that this has always been the case, at any time there were such people, even without high technology.

In general, artificial intelligence will make things done faster and spending less money in the long term, that is that main objective of companies which are focused in developing it, though if we talk about societal changes and the consequences on how people perceive reality and fiction, then I am afraid he is right and artificial intelligence will be abused by people with little morals, in order to manipulate the masses into thinking or following whatever it is more relevant of those behind the curtain.
In the case of gambling streamers or so-called influencers, AI will be used to enhance the positive characteristics of whatever product or services they are offering to their viewers, all of it for the sake of getting more money from sponsorships.
Whatever we see on the internet is about to become even less authentic and false in the years to come and we all will need to learn not to believe what we see on the screen of our smartphones anymore.

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Quote from: Orpichukwu on December 03, 2024, 02:56:00 PM

This is very correct; those streamers have only one purpose, which is to make money online. They are not different from influencers on different social media who are paid to promote a product that they don't know much about. If they scam people or not, they don't really care. What matters to them is doing the job they are being paid for and getting bonuses based on how many people were able to fall victim to using their affiliate code. They operate as if they are in a situation of either choosing their family bills to be paid or deceiving a few innocent followers.

It’s no longer new that the world of content creation is flooded with dishonesty and lies, all in the name of making money of the engagement they get from their audience, each day new people are trooping in with different acts, they give the public what they want, even if it’s just a big lie or one big joke, and that’s how they make their money, by now it shouldn’t be new to us anymore that most of these people online who pose to be experts in gambling predictions are simply just normal people with a huge audience (sometimes the number of audience might even turn out to be fake) and those who follow them or their acts do so at their own risk because when/if you fail in the process, you’ll definitely be responsible for your actions as you won’t hold no one responsible.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 06, 2024, 12:39:18 PM

So I feel nostalgic for those times when people's lives were, so to speak, simpler, but there was probably relatively less falsehood and lies. And at that time, such human qualities as conscience, honor and nobility were not completely lost. So we must understand that the world is generally rolling towards completely informational deepfakes, especially since AI will try very hard to help humanity quickly slide into the pit of not knowing anything and generally turn into batteries like in "The Matrix". It seems that we are all rapidly moving towards this virtual obscurantism.

The times that people have always dreamed of, when someone else would do everything for them.) In this case, AI will not necessarily do it, there are enough people who are ready to do it for a small fee, people for whom the most important thing is money are ready to deceive other people, but it seems to me that this has always been the case, at any time there were such people, even without high technology.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 06, 2024, 12:39:18 PM

So I feel nostalgic for those times when people's lives were, so to speak, simpler, but there was probably relatively less falsehood and lies. And at that time, such human qualities as conscience, honor and nobility were not completely lost. So we must understand that the world is generally rolling towards completely informational deepfakes, especially since AI will try very hard to help humanity quickly slide into the pit of not knowing anything and generally turn into batteries like in "The Matrix". It seems that we are all rapidly moving towards this virtual obscurantism.

That is right so maybe we will face much fake in this life. People already lost conscience, honor and nobility to other people and not care with what happen around them. They will care with their life and busy to achieve what they want without thinks about other people who is trying to survive for their lives. The world is already changed and we can not deny that but we must prevents the bad things happens to us. If we thinks that gambling videos and streams are so unrealistic, we don't have to watch and choose the other videos. In this matter, we must be wise for what we watch and not just follow without we thinks much. Otherwise, we may get the bad things in our life.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 06, 2024, 08:26:06 PM

Undoubtedly my friend, always the simple fact that Something like this is published here in the photo immediately causes the word to spread, it's a fact, of course all this about Reputation and casinos are a big factor for marketing for any site, I think that also because of that is why Companies always have great confidence in the Forum and its marketing , whether with branding Campaigns or social media campaigns, the impact is Strong , and in itself that is what is sought, for us as clients it is good to have this type of information on the forum.

Not only casino companies, with all companies that are running, they will certainly market their products with the aim of expanding the reach of their products known to the public and in my opinion that is a natural thing, the casino itself is not wrong to market its business to develop its casino by utilizing the development of current technology that is developing, because utilizing current technology is indeed one effective way to market a business or product that is managed.
Maybe it also makes sense to say that the marketing video made by the casino is a hoax because they say that it is easy to win but it is not actually, but even so I think that out of the millions of people who gamble, there must be those who get the big win that is intended in the marketing, it's just that very few get it.

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Quote from: delfastTions on November 29, 2024, 04:25:11 AM

Probably, if we compare the reliability of information on the forum and in social networks of mass use, then in any case the reliability on the forum is an order of magnitude higher than in social networks.
There are many reasons for this and by the way, one of the serious reasons is that the authority of the forum user is usually a brake so that, fearing to lose his reputation, this user would begin to write deliberately false or unverified information. And this concerns information about various nuances of the work of some casinos first of all. And of course, if a user with a good reputation on the forum begins to write false information, other users will immediately notice it. And why would a loss of reputation be necessary here? Realistically and sensibly reasoning, it is clear to anyone that none of the authoritative users need this.

Undoubtedly my friend, always the simple fact that Something like this is published here in the photo immediately causes the word to spread, it's a fact, of course all this about Reputation and casinos are a big factor for marketing for any site, I think that also because of that is why Companies always have great confidence in the Forum and its marketing , whether with branding Campaigns or social media campaigns, the impact is Strong , and in itself that is what is sought, for us as clients it is good to have this type of information on the forum.

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Quote from: blockman on December 05, 2024, 05:02:20 PM

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Quote from: blockman on December 04, 2024, 04:37:40 PM

Exactly, these streamers are also creative in how they are advertising their sponsors. They don't have to be obvious but to be genuine and lowkey advertised. It doesn't matter to them who they will hit with their advertisement through the stream but as long as they are doing their job and whatever is in the contract, that's it for them.

When you see how brazenly some streamers and advertisers in general lie, for some reason I remember scenes from Hollywood or, for example, French films, like "Count Monte Cristo", where the heroes of the films demonstrate miracles of noble behavior, honesty and incorruptibility. They simply cannot imagine, much less allow themselves to commit ignoble acts.
Even if there is a small grain of truth in such stories, we can only regretfully state that all of humanity has almost completely lost such qualities as nobility, honor, conscience and even fear of divine punishment or fear of karmic revenge.

That's how it goes nowadays because majority are for the money and they've got some family to provide for. And that's why even if they want to be honest and and be in truth, there are some lies that they have to say on their stream even if the balance that they have isn't theirs and are provided by the casino that they are promoting.

So I feel nostalgic for those times when people's lives were, so to speak, simpler, but there was probably relatively less falsehood and lies. And at that time, such human qualities as conscience, honor and nobility were not completely lost. So we must understand that the world is generally rolling towards completely informational deepfakes, especially since AI will try very hard to help humanity quickly slide into the pit of not knowing anything and generally turn into batteries like in "The Matrix". It seems that we are all rapidly moving towards this virtual obscurantism.

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Quote from: virasog on November 29, 2024, 12:46:36 PM

The gambling streams are presented in a way that it is appealing and attracts many people towards gambling. Those videos and streams are publicly available for everyone including the minors. When they see such attractive and easy money making, they will insist on making money from gambling and not focus on the real earnings for making a living.

Setting up wrong expectations will only lead to put hard earned money into gambling only to end up losing it all. This is not only that young blood are attracted to it, but everyone is influenced by flashy advertisements promising easy money. A teenager would be more encouraged to spend their pocket money on bets and streaks of initial wins will make them make wrong decisions because they don't realize that gambling is unpredictable and risk management is something they never learn.

With the current gadgets and the internet being like basic needs, even small children can find a marketing video made by a casino company, because now there are many children who are still minors but they already have their own gadgets bought by their parents, In my environment, children who are still minors who already have their own gadgets are not a strange thing anymore, this is like a culture, so they themselves are certainly not far from the internet and social media, which is where many casino marketing videos are.

You are right, all groups are interested in this online gambling because of its attractive marketing and it has succeeded in making many people interested in doing it, but marketing like this is also a natural thing in my opinion.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 05, 2024, 03:16:06 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 04, 2024, 04:37:40 PM

Exactly, these streamers are also creative in how they are advertising their sponsors. They don't have to be obvious but to be genuine and lowkey advertised. It doesn't matter to them who they will hit with their advertisement through the stream but as long as they are doing their job and whatever is in the contract, that's it for them.

When you see how brazenly some streamers and advertisers in general lie, for some reason I remember scenes from Hollywood or, for example, French films, like "Count Monte Cristo", where the heroes of the films demonstrate miracles of noble behavior, honesty and incorruptibility. They simply cannot imagine, much less allow themselves to commit ignoble acts.
Even if there is a small grain of truth in such stories, we can only regretfully state that all of humanity has almost completely lost such qualities as nobility, honor, conscience and even fear of divine punishment or fear of karmic revenge.

That's how it goes nowadays because majority are for the money and they've got some family to provide for. And that's why even if they want to be honest and and be in truth, there are some lies that they have to say on their stream even if the balance that they have isn't theirs and are provided by the casino that they are promoting.

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Quote from: blockman on December 04, 2024, 04:37:40 PM

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Quote from: blockman on December 03, 2024, 03:30:37 PM

That is very true. All they care is about how much money that they make. The affiliates, commissions and everything they get for the streams that they promote.
The casinos that they are working with, it's always been the case of how much money they will make from it. Don't believe with everything that they show off because not all of it are true.

However, sometimes you have to show creativity and ingenuity so that as many people as possible would believe in the deliberately false staged information that is promoted by another supposedly real stream or some other video sequence. Probably such work should be well paid, since from a primitive fake stream, most likely, a tiny percentage of those who watched it will believe in luck and in general how fabulously you can get rich practically without doing anything. This is where you need to show creativity so that everything seems truthful, although the authors, of course, are obvious that they are liars and falsifiers who have no conscience at all, never have had and never will. And there are actually a lot of such shameless creative people. Including streamers too,

When you see how brazenly some streamers and advertisers in general lie, for some reason I remember scenes from Hollywood or, for example, French films, like "Count Monte Cristo", where the heroes of the films demonstrate miracles of noble behavior, honesty and incorruptibility. They simply cannot imagine, much less allow themselves to commit ignoble acts.
Even if there is a small grain of truth in such stories, we can only regretfully state that all of humanity has almost completely lost such qualities as nobility, honor, conscience and even fear of divine punishment or fear of karmic revenge.
Exactly, these streamers are also creative in how they are advertising their sponsors. They don't have to be obvious but to be genuine and lowkey advertised. It doesn't matter to them who they will hit with their advertisement through the stream but as long as they are doing their job and whatever is in the contract, that's it for them.

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Quote from: delfastTions on December 04, 2024, 02:12:59 AM

Quote from: blockman on December 03, 2024, 03:30:37 PM

That is very true. All they care is about how much money that they make. The affiliates, commissions and everything they get for the streams that they promote.
The casinos that they are working with, it's always been the case of how much money they will make from it. Don't believe with everything that they show off because not all of it are true.

However, sometimes you have to show creativity and ingenuity so that as many people as possible would believe in the deliberately false staged information that is promoted by another supposedly real stream or some other video sequence. Probably such work should be well paid, since from a primitive fake stream, most likely, a tiny percentage of those who watched it will believe in luck and in general how fabulously you can get rich practically without doing anything. This is where you need to show creativity so that everything seems truthful, although the authors, of course, are obvious that they are liars and falsifiers who have no conscience at all, never have had and never will. And there are actually a lot of such shameless creative people. Including streamers too,

Exactly, these streamers are also creative in how they are advertising their sponsors. They don't have to be obvious but to be genuine and lowkey advertised. It doesn't matter to them who they will hit with their advertisement through the stream but as long as they are doing their job and whatever is in the contract, that's it for them.

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