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Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 327. (Read 3377922 times)
October 05, 2015, 07:28:45 PM
October 05, 2015, 07:25:19 PM
Do you have some of the withdrawl addresses from Cryptsy for the email dumps? I was trying to find them but was notoriously hard trying to sift through thousands of pages.
BTC withdrawal addresses:
1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm -- Received 544.6948 BTC
1J1AA6wH2t3CakE85fApkdUFRHBA7Y2zhC -- Received 10.999 BTC
1HYqifTS6k8EfHWixFf8MpAKKj36uQJDXM -- Received 110.9373293 BTC
1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn82 -- Received 34,324.45336538 BTC
12AFAxed87rMEpzshF5bvwF4pvjjEXAGvs -- Received 469.44268501 BTC
Here's a couple interesting ones that link to these addresses, I'd like to see if we can pinpoint Josh's accounts.
18z9CvHcUs4mKTPEyjJLfMxeiYe9XKqxrX
1Hw8dtVC9bdxDz1su9Jx3GXTgjR75FJcMK
1JsVdtXZHKnuzUihEjCPyRm5EEcxRjWGEh
Did you find these addresses from outputs of the above addresses, or are they from inputs to them? Just curious - there are a LOT of coins right there!
One thing I find fairly interesting is that they seem to be using the same type of mixer as scrypt.cc uses... or rather, scripts or whatever they use for the laundering. I also noticed some of that going on with the known hashie.co addresses a while back. Maybe the same people are involved in all 3 scams? I know that's a stretch, but seems a bit coincidental. I mean, what mixer can even handle that volume of coins? None, they would have to be done slowly in chunks, right?
Someone selling the hashie.co domain here in the forum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-hashieco-domain-name-1179915
There is definitely a connection between GAWMiners & Hashie b/c Hashie was a member of Hashtalk & went fishing for victims among the kool-aid drinkers.
In retrospect, anyone who was never banned on hashtalk.....is suspect.
They were addresses that were positive balances linked directly, funds that flowed in and out of the same address with a minimal amount of transfers that were not sent to an exchange.
The earlier one I had found was an account from way back that had linked to Josh, my opinion is that the scam goes deeper than Paycoin and that Josh was setting up a bunch of scam websites in order to make money off gullible people who have a habit of investing in Ponzi's.
I think Josh in behind hashie.co, scrypt.cc, xscrypt, and a number of Ponzi doubler sites. We have a number of the exit addresses from the email dump so could easily do a check among them, find similar addresses that group together and find out which sites are his and how deep this rabbit hole goes.
October 05, 2015, 07:06:13 PM
I hope no one gives them a PAYCOIN for that domain.
I bid eleventy trillion XPY for the domain and didn't win. SCAM
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.12417643
October 05, 2015, 06:50:42 PM
RE: Someone selling the hashie.co domain here in the forum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-hashieco-domain-name-1179915
Funny.
It means they took their own advice and LET IT GO!
(After absconding with all the BTC, they posted the song, "Let it Go" on the hashie website. They also impersonated some of the animated characters from the kiddie flick, "Frozen."
Can you say, "Out of touch with reality?" )
I hope no one gives them a PAYCOIN for that domain.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-hashieco-domain-name-1179915
Funny.
It means they took their own advice and LET IT GO!
(After absconding with all the BTC, they posted the song, "Let it Go" on the hashie website. They also impersonated some of the animated characters from the kiddie flick, "Frozen."
Can you say, "Out of touch with reality?" )
I hope no one gives them a PAYCOIN for that domain.
October 05, 2015, 06:39:21 PM
Do you have some of the withdrawl addresses from Cryptsy for the email dumps? I was trying to find them but was notoriously hard trying to sift through thousands of pages.
BTC withdrawal addresses:
1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm -- Received 544.6948 BTC
1J1AA6wH2t3CakE85fApkdUFRHBA7Y2zhC -- Received 10.999 BTC
1HYqifTS6k8EfHWixFf8MpAKKj36uQJDXM -- Received 110.9373293 BTC
1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn82 -- Received 34,324.45336538 BTC
12AFAxed87rMEpzshF5bvwF4pvjjEXAGvs -- Received 469.44268501 BTC
Here's a couple interesting ones that link to these addresses, I'd like to see if we can pinpoint Josh's accounts.
18z9CvHcUs4mKTPEyjJLfMxeiYe9XKqxrX
1Hw8dtVC9bdxDz1su9Jx3GXTgjR75FJcMK
1JsVdtXZHKnuzUihEjCPyRm5EEcxRjWGEh
Did you find these addresses from outputs of the above addresses, or are they from inputs to them? Just curious - there are a LOT of coins right there!
One thing I find fairly interesting is that they seem to be using the same type of mixer as scrypt.cc uses... or rather, scripts or whatever they use for the laundering. I also noticed some of that going on with the known hashie.co addresses a while back. Maybe the same people are involved in all 3 scams? I know that's a stretch, but seems a bit coincidental. I mean, what mixer can even handle that volume of coins? None, they would have to be done slowly in chunks, right?
Someone selling the hashie.co domain here in the forum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-hashieco-domain-name-1179915
There is definitely a connection between GAWMiners & Hashie b/c Hashie was a member of Hashtalk & went fishing for victims among the kool-aid drinkers.
In retrospect, anyone who was never banned on hashtalk.....is suspect.
October 05, 2015, 06:38:10 PM
Do you have some of the withdrawl addresses from Cryptsy for the email dumps? I was trying to find them but was notoriously hard trying to sift through thousands of pages.
BTC withdrawal addresses:
1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm -- Received 544.6948 BTC
1J1AA6wH2t3CakE85fApkdUFRHBA7Y2zhC -- Received 10.999 BTC
1HYqifTS6k8EfHWixFf8MpAKKj36uQJDXM -- Received 110.9373293 BTC
1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn82 -- Received 34,324.45336538 BTC
12AFAxed87rMEpzshF5bvwF4pvjjEXAGvs -- Received 469.44268501 BTC
Here's a couple interesting ones that link to these addresses, I'd like to see if we can pinpoint Josh's accounts.
18z9CvHcUs4mKTPEyjJLfMxeiYe9XKqxrX
1Hw8dtVC9bdxDz1su9Jx3GXTgjR75FJcMK
1JsVdtXZHKnuzUihEjCPyRm5EEcxRjWGEh
Did you find these addresses from outputs of the above addresses, or are they from inputs to them? Just curious - there are a LOT of coins right there!
One thing I find fairly interesting is that they seem to be using the same type of mixer as scrypt.cc uses... or rather, scripts or whatever they use for the laundering. I also noticed some of that going on with the known hashie.co addresses a while back. Maybe the same people are involved in all 3 scams? I know that's a stretch, but seems a bit coincidental. I mean, what mixer can even handle that volume of coins? None, they would have to be done slowly in chunks, right?
The addresses I posted were ones that other people had shared in emails that came directly out of Cryptsy withdrawal confirmations sent to Josh.
October 05, 2015, 06:16:07 PM
Do you have some of the withdrawl addresses from Cryptsy for the email dumps? I was trying to find them but was notoriously hard trying to sift through thousands of pages.
BTC withdrawal addresses:
1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm -- Received 544.6948 BTC
1J1AA6wH2t3CakE85fApkdUFRHBA7Y2zhC -- Received 10.999 BTC
1HYqifTS6k8EfHWixFf8MpAKKj36uQJDXM -- Received 110.9373293 BTC
1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn82 -- Received 34,324.45336538 BTC
12AFAxed87rMEpzshF5bvwF4pvjjEXAGvs -- Received 469.44268501 BTC
Here's a couple interesting ones that link to these addresses, I'd like to see if we can pinpoint Josh's accounts.
18z9CvHcUs4mKTPEyjJLfMxeiYe9XKqxrX
1Hw8dtVC9bdxDz1su9Jx3GXTgjR75FJcMK
1JsVdtXZHKnuzUihEjCPyRm5EEcxRjWGEh
Did you find these addresses from outputs of the above addresses, or are they from inputs to them? Just curious - there are a LOT of coins right there!
One thing I find fairly interesting is that they seem to be using the same type of mixer as scrypt.cc uses... or rather, scripts or whatever they use for the laundering. I also noticed some of that going on with the known hashie.co addresses a while back. Maybe the same people are involved in all 3 scams? I know that's a stretch, but seems a bit coincidental. I mean, what mixer can even handle that volume of coins? None, they would have to be done slowly in chunks, right?
Someone selling the hashie.co domain here in the forum.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wts-hashieco-domain-name-1179915
October 05, 2015, 05:03:52 PM
Do you have some of the withdrawl addresses from Cryptsy for the email dumps? I was trying to find them but was notoriously hard trying to sift through thousands of pages.
BTC withdrawal addresses:
1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm -- Received 544.6948 BTC
1J1AA6wH2t3CakE85fApkdUFRHBA7Y2zhC -- Received 10.999 BTC
1HYqifTS6k8EfHWixFf8MpAKKj36uQJDXM -- Received 110.9373293 BTC
1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn82 -- Received 34,324.45336538 BTC
12AFAxed87rMEpzshF5bvwF4pvjjEXAGvs -- Received 469.44268501 BTC
Here's a couple interesting ones that link to these addresses, I'd like to see if we can pinpoint Josh's accounts.
18z9CvHcUs4mKTPEyjJLfMxeiYe9XKqxrX
1Hw8dtVC9bdxDz1su9Jx3GXTgjR75FJcMK
1JsVdtXZHKnuzUihEjCPyRm5EEcxRjWGEh
Did you find these addresses from outputs of the above addresses, or are they from inputs to them? Just curious - there are a LOT of coins right there!
One thing I find fairly interesting is that they seem to be using the same type of mixer as scrypt.cc uses... or rather, scripts or whatever they use for the laundering. I also noticed some of that going on with the known hashie.co addresses a while back. Maybe the same people are involved in all 3 scams? I know that's a stretch, but seems a bit coincidental. I mean, what mixer can even handle that volume of coins? None, they would have to be done slowly in chunks, right?
October 05, 2015, 04:53:18 PM
Do you have some of the withdrawl addresses from Cryptsy for the email dumps? I was trying to find them but was notoriously hard trying to sift through thousands of pages.
BTC withdrawal addresses:
1Ep5cvvkpnTPoiQgpC3UxkyckrVQSMxyTm -- Received 544.6948 BTC
1J1AA6wH2t3CakE85fApkdUFRHBA7Y2zhC -- Received 10.999 BTC
1HYqifTS6k8EfHWixFf8MpAKKj36uQJDXM -- Received 110.9373293 BTC
1P62VZZ9kL97dzzcWhG7JZDssaW2MDgn82 -- Received 34,324.45336538 BTC
12AFAxed87rMEpzshF5bvwF4pvjjEXAGvs -- Received 469.44268501 BTC
Here's a couple interesting ones that link to these addresses, I'd like to see if we can pinpoint Josh's accounts.
18z9CvHcUs4mKTPEyjJLfMxeiYe9XKqxrX
1Hw8dtVC9bdxDz1su9Jx3GXTgjR75FJcMK
1JsVdtXZHKnuzUihEjCPyRm5EEcxRjWGEh
October 05, 2015, 01:42:10 PM
@Paul Answer is simple, it's craptsy supporting scamtsy, especially with their mintsy
October 05, 2015, 11:31:31 AM
Here is part of the Emails between Josh Garza and Paul Vernon:
And a couple pages before that when the list of Prime Controller owners was announced during the "Paycoin chat with an actual female involved"
What?
Cryptsy 1
Cryptsy 1
everything going like mr garza planned with Big Vern of Cryptsy (thx PRODIGI). i dont remember if this was posted before
And a couple pages before that when the list of Prime Controller owners was announced during the "Paycoin chat with an actual female involved"
New Prime Distribution:
XPY Core Dev 14
Cryptsy 1
XPY Trust 5
Adam Matlack 3
The PayCoin Foundation 12
Unknown party 15
XPY Core Dev 14
Cryptsy 1
XPY Trust 5
Adam Matlack 3
The PayCoin Foundation 12
Unknown party 15
What?
Cryptsy 1
Cryptsy 1
October 05, 2015, 11:18:49 AM
I have to wonder regarding that "ZERO association" though... how about that ball-cupping CTO of theirs? Garza's buddy Marshall Long. Is he already an ex-CTO? Doesn't seem to list Cryptsy or Project Investors on his LinkedIn page anymore.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshalllong
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshalllong
Exactly my first thought.
They have these blanket denials, forgetting that
a) Coinfire has been proven right in this space many times, and
b) there are leaked emails that include proposed business dealings between Josh Garza and Marshall Long while Long was working as a C-level for Cryptsy.
If they were going to lie, a better approach would have been to make Long the fall guy. Trying to Marion Jones the article is a poor approach given that there is clear evidence of an association.
October 05, 2015, 11:14:00 AM
About a month ago:
I thought I had posted the Emails between Paul Vernon & Josh Garza where they are discussing combining GAW & Cryptsy through a stock swap, but I guess someone else must have posted the screens of that. I will dig around and see if I can find those.
I thought I had posted the Emails between Paul Vernon & Josh Garza where they are discussing combining GAW & Cryptsy through a stock swap, but I guess someone else must have posted the screens of that. I will dig around and see if I can find those.
I believe it was an email from Josh to Paul proposing that Cryptsy run the exchange and GAW would run the cloud service. They would exchange stock in each other's companies and become partners. Josh was also telling Paul that Josh can help him rebuild his UI and build a better strategy towards users... and rebrand EVERYTHING under BTC.com
I'm not sure if Paul/Cryptsy ever responded to Josh's hair-brained idea.
That sounds about right. I do recall Josh specifically talking about a stock swap to formalize this deal, i.e. Josh/GAW would handle the Con of victims and fraud, and Cryptsy would handle the
October 05, 2015, 11:08:04 AM
About a month ago:
I thought I had posted the Emails between Paul Vernon & Josh Garza where they are discussing combining GAW & Cryptsy through a stock swap, but I guess someone else must have posted the screens of that. I will dig around and see if I can find those.
I thought I had posted the Emails between Paul Vernon & Josh Garza where they are discussing combining GAW & Cryptsy through a stock swap, but I guess someone else must have posted the screens of that. I will dig around and see if I can find those.
I believe it was an email from Josh to Paul proposing that Cryptsy run the exchange and GAW would run the cloud service. They would exchange stock in each other's companies and become partners. Josh was also telling Paul that Josh can help him rebuild his UI and build a better strategy towards users... and rebrand EVERYTHING under BTC.com
I'm not sure if Paul/Cryptsy ever responded to Josh's hair-brained idea.
October 05, 2015, 10:41:53 AM
About a month ago:
They've got other investigation issues. I'm sure someone will post investigation documents for them. It is only a matter of time.
To your knowledge, are there any investigations underway specifically about collusion between BV/Cryptsy and JG/GAW in implementing the Paycoin Scam? The Emails where the two of them are discussing actual stock swap between the two companies just prior to the launch of the Paycoin Scam have been out for some time, but there was not 100% proof that the two indeed made a deal (and what that deal would entail, like helping launder Premine so it could be dumped and denied that it came from there)) in anything I saw. For me personally , the odd things happening where bots can clearly be seen depositing and then withdrawing the exact same coins from Cryptsy deposit wallets over and over as part of the Paycoin Shuffle and then of course the free Paycoin shitter given to Cryptsy (magically filled with 125,000 Paycoins even) have convinced me personally that Cryptsy was in on this the whole way.
I think that would be an issue and I think some other KYC issues, taxation issues and licensing issues with multiple agencies will start coming out soon with actions in 2016.
Granted, I'm not saying that is what is happening until someone says that is exactly what is happening and I would expect some media organizations in this space to likely start reporting on it... soon(tm).
I thought I had posted the Emails between Paul Vernon & Josh Garza where they are discussing combining GAW & Cryptsy through a stock swap, but I guess someone else must have posted the screens of that. I will dig around and see if I can find those.
I hope cryptsy also gets life in prison, they're still profiting off securities fraud to this day
They've got other investigation issues. I'm sure someone will post investigation documents for them. It is only a matter of time.
To your knowledge, are there any investigations underway specifically about collusion between BV/Cryptsy and JG/GAW in implementing the Paycoin Scam? The Emails where the two of them are discussing actual stock swap between the two companies just prior to the launch of the Paycoin Scam have been out for some time, but there was not 100% proof that the two indeed made a deal (and what that deal would entail, like helping launder Premine so it could be dumped and denied that it came from there)) in anything I saw. For me personally , the odd things happening where bots can clearly be seen depositing and then withdrawing the exact same coins from Cryptsy deposit wallets over and over as part of the Paycoin Shuffle and then of course the free Paycoin shitter given to Cryptsy (magically filled with 125,000 Paycoins even) have convinced me personally that Cryptsy was in on this the whole way.
I think that would be an issue and I think some other KYC issues, taxation issues and licensing issues with multiple agencies will start coming out soon with actions in 2016.
Granted, I'm not saying that is what is happening until someone says that is exactly what is happening and I would expect some media organizations in this space to likely start reporting on it... soon(tm).
I thought I had posted the Emails between Paul Vernon & Josh Garza where they are discussing combining GAW & Cryptsy through a stock swap, but I guess someone else must have posted the screens of that. I will dig around and see if I can find those.
October 05, 2015, 10:16:41 AM
I have to wonder regarding that "ZERO association" though... how about that ball-cupping CTO of theirs? Garza's buddy Marshall Long. Is he already an ex-CTO? Doesn't seem to list Cryptsy or Project Investors on his LinkedIn page anymore.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshalllong
https://www.linkedin.com/in/marshalllong
October 05, 2015, 09:58:26 AM
Do you guys think I will finally get the Prime Cuntroller from Crypsty that I won fair and square?
P.S: Looks like my conclusions reached by Blockchain research that massive amounts of Paycoins were being shuffled through/by Cryptsy were correct after all.
I'm pulling for you buddy.
October 05, 2015, 09:34:23 AM
October 05, 2015, 09:09:44 AM
So, the Cryptsy team is going to play tough guy and continue to deny everything. Complete surprise there. This hubris will certainly increase popcorn sales.
Here is another of Josh's knownBTC addresses:
There is a connection here. I made an overlap timeline showing the Blockchain.info chart with the Cryptrader.com chart:
I added some visual aids so that perhaps the most child like morons who can not figure out that Josh & Co are endlessly dumping XPY and pocketing BTC might be able to grasp the situation. Keep buying Morons! Josh has an endless supply of shitcoin that he can dump out in exchange for your $ and BTC!
Ladies and Gentlemen. There are seven acknowledged wonders of the World. We are about to show you the eighth. Standing in spotlight are young men who have brought you such tunes as "The Grunt" "Pass the Peas", "Give me some More", Ladies and Gentlemen, without no doubt, theeeeese are the JB's! Hit it!
https://i.imgur.com/76eCH8w.gif
https://i.imgflip.com/s2p67.gif
Shoot, tried both Imgur and PB (and imgflip) for my JB gif and none seem to work here anymore. Oh well, the Youtube link works...
P.S: I wonder if there are connections between Cryptsy and the "Not Josh" crooks who have been the public face of Paycoin for the last 6 months?
Ya hear it? The shit pressure is rising, assholes. You assholes have loaded up a hair trigger double barreled shit machine gun and the barrel is pointed straight at your own heads"
Here is another of Josh's knownBTC addresses:
Here you can see where all your BTC go from the premine:
https://blockchain.info/address/37ZnQ67LHmBBjrLm3cE7Muy3m1mmFyH94J
Can anybody confirm this is a address connected to PayCoin/Paybase ?
https://blockchain.info/address/37ZnQ67LHmBBjrLm3cE7Muy3m1mmFyH94J
Can anybody confirm this is a address connected to PayCoin/Paybase ?
There is a connection here. I made an overlap timeline showing the Blockchain.info chart with the Cryptrader.com chart:
I added some visual aids so that perhaps the most child like morons who can not figure out that Josh & Co are endlessly dumping XPY and pocketing BTC might be able to grasp the situation. Keep buying Morons! Josh has an endless supply of shitcoin that he can dump out in exchange for your $ and BTC!
Ladies and Gentlemen. There are seven acknowledged wonders of the World. We are about to show you the eighth. Standing in spotlight are young men who have brought you such tunes as "The Grunt" "Pass the Peas", "Give me some More", Ladies and Gentlemen, without no doubt, theeeeese are the JB's! Hit it!
https://i.imgur.com/76eCH8w.gif
https://i.imgflip.com/s2p67.gif
Shoot, tried both Imgur and PB (and imgflip) for my JB gif and none seem to work here anymore. Oh well, the Youtube link works...
P.S: I wonder if there are connections between Cryptsy and the "Not Josh" crooks who have been the public face of Paycoin for the last 6 months?
Ya hear it? The shit pressure is rising, assholes. You assholes have loaded up a hair trigger double barreled shit machine gun and the barrel is pointed straight at your own heads"
October 05, 2015, 09:08:23 AM
They should have done what ShapeShift did and delist it when things started getting shady, it was a pretty bad idea to accept a Prime Controller and eventually it catches up when you take little shortcuts here and there.
That would be assuming they are not scumbags, which is a silly assumption to make, especially with the claims made in the cryptsy post.
The prime controller just gave them more coins to dump on their customers to put more btc/cash in their pockets, which seems to be their #1 priority.
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