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Quote from: bumpershot on May 04, 2015, 04:49:39 PM

Quote from: Revelation on May 04, 2015, 04:43:28 PM

Mr Scam Muggle has finally admitted that he was scammed his last XPYs

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

Why should we believe any of that? It's much more likely that Garza's dissatisfied with a deal and wants to back out. We've seen this kind of thing a few times before, and each time Garza was lying. Why should this be any different?

I was looking at it today and it seems that XPY trade volume dropped way off a couple weeks ago... I could be mis-understanding what I'm seeing, but that would explain it that Garza had no more coin to dump?

But, I also think this is just a mis-direction, look for Garza to set up 'rogue' 'Valada' servers in 5, 4, 3, 2, ...

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Quote from: miaviator on May 04, 2015, 04:55:10 PM

Quote from: coinits on May 04, 2015, 04:45:17 PM

Quote from: Revelation on May 04, 2015, 04:43:28 PM

Mr Scam Muggle has finally admitted that he was scammed his last XPYs
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

https://web.archive.org/web/20150504214440/https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

Sounds similar to things I've been saying would happen

Scammed is a bit out of context. Most likely Josh made offers by voice and email and then decided he didn't have enough control and refused to validate the trade. If there are initial investors they are off the books Coin Fire report type investors.

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story
https://hashtalk.ch/api/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story
https://archive.is/JMBO9

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Mineral......A sad story
Hello Community,

We have always wanted to be transparent. It’s been a desire. But that’s difficult when the options are weighted. Especially with all the trolling that has gone on. The lack of regard that lives are at stake. A lack of kindness and grace, let alone humility. Airing dirty laundry is hard, particularly when it’s stained. We could have done better.

Most recently, our staking address has been sought. It’s been more than a week and we’ve still been reluctant to provide it. Well, here’s why:

Phil Vadala, someone we trusted…asked for our trust…has taken the remaining 15 controllers owned by GAW and its investors.

The original arrangement to was to provide a loan to Phil, to help him out, so that he could launch the company Mineral. We believed in the service was being provided and decided to extend a loan (not equity), to help him. The loan was provided with a few conditions. First, was to see mineral develop a debit card solution for Paycoin holders, bill-pay, and deliver the premier accounts. Perhaps making good on what was the intent of PayBase. That's why we helped.

This loan was to pay for the development of the platform and to bring these features to Paycoin holders. It was widely known that we also provided access to the coin-swap software for Phil to build the mineral exchange upon. With the closure of PayBase we were excited about the prospect of these features still being delivered to loyal coin holders.

Phil offered to personally manage the companies 15 Prime controllers and coins, the goal was to use the future stake to provide the premier plans for customers and other initiatives. We believed in his integrity.

Unfortunately, things did not go as planned. As you have undoubtedly figured out, there is little to no support being offered at mineral.com. We have since learned that Paul has abandoned the support of Mineral, altogether, and did not complete the software development jobs for which he was compensated by us. And to make matters even worse, we have been told Phil did not pay the developers the money we gave him for that purpose…to pay his subcontractors.

The most drastic news is that Phil intends to keep the coins from GAW. Regretfully, these coins were made up of both company coins and the coins of early investors. In other words, real people are loosing.

We greatly regret recommending that you use Mineral.com, what we thought was a service provided by a trusted member of the community. We invested our time and resources into what looks like a scam.

We are shocked, to say the least.

Now, we are putting all our resources in retrieving the coins that are now at risk of being dumped at any time. We understand the risk this has put Paycoin in and take responsibility for retrieving the coins from Phil, immediately.

Regretfully, we have heard that other investors of the coins are taking extreme actions to retrieve their coins from Phil. While we do not condone extreme action, we do understand that many people are at the end of their rope and will do anything to hold on to the last bit of investment where they have their money tied.

We strongly recommend that you remove all your coins for the Mineral Exchange, immediately, and do not use the FastXPY service. While we know this is step backward, every discovery of bad acts perpetrated by those with no integrity or scruples brings up a step forward towards our goal.

Finally, I am asking the community to rise up and make a public call to ask Phil to return the coins he has taken to their rightful owners. It's time for this to stop. Failure to return the coins will likely result in more needless legal fees being spent and more disputes, not mention a waste of energy in trying to do the right thing, all of which we pay for. Every coin holder. All of us.

Most importantly, many of the investors that owned the coins were some the same investors that supported the new platforms being built for Paycoin. As an example, the HashBase development has been stalled. This system intended to bring back many of the elements of ZenCloud.

Wish I had better news today.

Translation: Josh has finally fucked over the last bit of XPY control he ever had. Fireworks anyone?

P.S. Stole means something different to Ganza than to the rest of the world.

kept moving forward with the scam Tongue

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Quote from: coinits on May 04, 2015, 04:45:17 PM

Quote from: Revelation on May 04, 2015, 04:43:28 PM

Mr Scam Muggle has finally admitted that he was scammed his last XPYs
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

https://web.archive.org/web/20150504214440/https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

Sounds similar to things I've been saying would happen

Scammed is a bit out of context. Most likely Josh made offers by voice and email and then decided he didn't have enough control and refused to validate the trade. If there are initial investors they are off the books Coin Fire report type investors.

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story
https://hashtalk.ch/api/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story
https://archive.is/JMBO9

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Mineral......A sad story
Hello Community,

We have always wanted to be transparent. It’s been a desire. But that’s difficult when the options are weighted. Especially with all the trolling that has gone on. The lack of regard that lives are at stake. A lack of kindness and grace, let alone humility. Airing dirty laundry is hard, particularly when it’s stained. We could have done better.

Most recently, our staking address has been sought. It’s been more than a week and we’ve still been reluctant to provide it. Well, here’s why:

Phil Vadala, someone we trusted…asked for our trust…has taken the remaining 15 controllers owned by GAW and its investors.

The original arrangement to was to provide a loan to Phil, to help him out, so that he could launch the company Mineral. We believed in the service was being provided and decided to extend a loan (not equity), to help him. The loan was provided with a few conditions. First, was to see mineral develop a debit card solution for Paycoin holders, bill-pay, and deliver the premier accounts. Perhaps making good on what was the intent of PayBase. That's why we helped.

This loan was to pay for the development of the platform and to bring these features to Paycoin holders. It was widely known that we also provided access to the coin-swap software for Phil to build the mineral exchange upon. With the closure of PayBase we were excited about the prospect of these features still being delivered to loyal coin holders.

Phil offered to personally manage the companies 15 Prime controllers and coins, the goal was to use the future stake to provide the premier plans for customers and other initiatives. We believed in his integrity.

Unfortunately, things did not go as planned. As you have undoubtedly figured out, there is little to no support being offered at mineral.com. We have since learned that Paul has abandoned the support of Mineral, altogether, and did not complete the software development jobs for which he was compensated by us. And to make matters even worse, we have been told Phil did not pay the developers the money we gave him for that purpose…to pay his subcontractors.

The most drastic news is that Phil intends to keep the coins from GAW. Regretfully, these coins were made up of both company coins and the coins of early investors. In other words, real people are loosing.

We greatly regret recommending that you use Mineral.com, what we thought was a service provided by a trusted member of the community. We invested our time and resources into what looks like a scam.

We are shocked, to say the least.

Now, we are putting all our resources in retrieving the coins that are now at risk of being dumped at any time. We understand the risk this has put Paycoin in and take responsibility for retrieving the coins from Phil, immediately.

Regretfully, we have heard that other investors of the coins are taking extreme actions to retrieve their coins from Phil. While we do not condone extreme action, we do understand that many people are at the end of their rope and will do anything to hold on to the last bit of investment where they have their money tied.

We strongly recommend that you remove all your coins for the Mineral Exchange, immediately, and do not use the FastXPY service. While we know this is step backward, every discovery of bad acts perpetrated by those with no integrity or scruples brings up a step forward towards our goal.

Finally, I am asking the community to rise up and make a public call to ask Phil to return the coins he has taken to their rightful owners. It's time for this to stop. Failure to return the coins will likely result in more needless legal fees being spent and more disputes, not mention a waste of energy in trying to do the right thing, all of which we pay for. Every coin holder. All of us.

Most importantly, many of the investors that owned the coins were some the same investors that supported the new platforms being built for Paycoin. As an example, the HashBase development has been stalled. This system intended to bring back many of the elements of ZenCloud.

Wish I had better news today.

Translation: Josh has finally fucked over the last bit of XPY control he ever had. Fireworks anyone?

P.S. Stole means something different to Ganza than to the rest of the world.

I knew this story sounded familiar:
https://hashtalk.ch/topic/36299/it-s-time-for-the-truth
https://archive.is/8TqXe

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Quote from: jdebunt on May 04, 2015, 08:50:40 AM

There is nothing wrong with the Bitcoinist article. Clear disclaimer at the top, and if the company in question wants to pay for it, there is nothing wrong with that.

Deepak did a good job of keeping things objective in my opinion.

People need to do their own research and go after the people that are actually to blame here, aka the Garza clan (or however you want to describe it).

I don't get this slovenly mental incompetence. It boggles the mind such stupidity.

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Deepak did a good job of keeping things objective

It is a paid for fucking advertisement, Shitpak the Lawyer has no say whatsoever in the matter.

Or do you mean they sit there with the client working it all out ' hey you say this and I say this so that it looks like an article rather than a paid advertisement' ' lemme throw you a semi-curve ball to make it look more real' ?

Just like that

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Clear disclaimer at the top

no it is not it is mealie mouthed scum bag cunning to hide the word sponsored at the end of the sentence.

Garbage website that does that, garbage "reporter" and good thing the moron affixed his credentials to this fraudently scam advert because for sure any law firm in the future will seek out what a shitpak he is and not hire him...

Of course the door is always open at that grinning faggot Dave Mclean if needed.

Fuck you and that fake Belgium author, this Shipak wannabe lawyer and the scum who failed to sell this garbage website to the bigger scum Homero.

All in the name of duping the uninitated masses. Pieces of shit:

Disclaimer: Bitcoinist is not responsible for goods and services provided by CoinCard, CPIGroup or its subsidiaries. Bitcoinist does not endorse the products and services provided in the sponsored article

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Cunning and as low class and low down as you faggot marketing "clever' human filth think you are.

Most if not all will glimpse for a mere second at that not even read the single last two words.

Pigs.

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Quote from: Revelation on May 04, 2015, 04:43:28 PM

Mr Scam Muggle has finally admitted that he was scammed his last XPYs

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

Why should we believe any of that? It's much more likely that Garza's dissatisfied with a deal and wants to back out. We've seen this kind of thing a few times before, and each time Garza was lying. Why should this be any different?

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Quote from: Revelation on May 04, 2015, 04:43:28 PM

Mr Scam Muggle has finally admitted that he was scammed his last XPYs

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

https://web.archive.org/web/20150504214440/https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

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Mr Scam Muggle has finally admitted that he was scammed his last XPYs

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37331/mineral-a-sad-story

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10807748

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Just another fly-by-nighter.

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had to be done Wink

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Carmelo Miliáns of btclend: please do not publish suspicious activity you see on the blockchain so i Carmelo can fix it behind closed doors to save my face or to hide my illegal activities. My motto Do what you will, anything at all! Y u not trust?

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Quote from: miaviator on May 04, 2015, 02:38:16 PM

@CoinFire

Tag you're it.

The last guy who reported it to Stripe was sent a free Stripe t-shirt by the Stripe team for bringing the violation to light. So, whoever wants a free Stripe shirt can get one that way.

I hear they hang out on IRC.

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Quote from: Paul Revere on May 01, 2015, 10:33:56 AM

Another thing worthy of note on the Paycoin Blockchain: At least 3 PC addresses are not playing along with the pretend rule that PC's must scrape stake to avoid (much) compounding. https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/#!rich

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?319632.htm #11
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?320305.htm #12
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xpy/address.dws?320307.htm #13

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Quote from: miaviator on May 04, 2015, 03:45:56 PM

Homero: The reporting was done in good faith and by proper reporting procedure by everyone. I was on the call when it happened. Your deflection, deceit and insults to the community, both this community and the XPY community, are completely unprofessional and uncalled for. You do not get to rule as a dictator simply because your customers have entrusted you with their coins. As of now you have broken that trust on many levels.

Paul Revere:
Jenny Says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEfpoUuKFOY

Homero says "Get you facts straight before accusing anyone of cheating."
Homero says "Are you Slow or Plain Stupid?"
Homero says "You my friend are nothing but a bully."
Homero says "I wish I had you in front of me."
Homero says "you only get respect from those who fear you."
Homero says "Sorry, I cant respect those who lack of respect to others.”
Homero says "The explanations were given to our customers. "
Homero says "You want details subscribe to our mailing list or read our forum."
Homero says "His Blockchain tracing tracing abilities are worthless when his conclusions are way off."
Homero says "It was my lack of judgment on who I trusted."
Homero says "This things happen to the largest businesses in the world."
Homero says "The situation was solved”
Homero says "Someone with access did it.”
Homero says "Not rocket science”
Homero says "Anyways, no matter what I say, it will be useless in this audience.”
Homero says "ohhh I am impress of your wittiness !”
https://forum.gethashing.com/uploads/default/4803/e3c72943c2054edc.jpg
Homero says "I make things happen in case you have not notice.”
Homero says “soon"

This looks familiar!

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Quote from: miaviator on May 04, 2015, 03:49:40 PM

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volder [4:42 PM]
This is interesting. Homer's got his own news network now.

http://captiongenerator.com/38538/HOMO-News-Network

Okay... that was really funny!

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volder [4:42 PM]
This is interesting. Homer's got his own news network now.

http://captiongenerator.com/38538/HOMO-News-Network

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It's for the children!

Carmello: The reporting was done in good faith and by proper reporting procedure by everyone. I was on the call when it happened. Your deflection, deceit and insults to the community, both this community and the XPY community, are completely unprofessional and uncalled for. You do not get to rule as a dictator simply because your customers have entrusted you with their coins. As of now you have broken that trust on many levels.

Paul Revere:
Jenny Says: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEfpoUuKFOY

Carmello says "Get you facts straight before accusing anyone of cheating."
Carmello says "Are you Slow or Plain Stupid?"
Carmello says "You my friend are nothing but a bully."
Carmello says "I wish I had you in front of me."
Carmello says "you only get respect from those who fear you."
Carmello says "Sorry, I cant respect those who lack of respect to others.”
Carmello says "The explanations were given to our customers. "
Carmello says "You want details subscribe to our mailing list or read our forum."
Carmello says "His Blockchain tracing tracing abilities are worthless when his conclusions are way off."
Carmello says "It was my lack of judgment on who I trusted."
Carmello says "This things happen to the largest businesses in the world."
Carmello says "The situation was solved”
Carmello says "Someone with access did it.”
Carmello says "Not rocket science”
Carmello says "Anyways, no matter what I say, it will be useless in this audience.”
Carmello says "ohhh I am impress of your wittiness !”

Carmello says "I make things happen in case you have not notice.”
Carmello says “soon"

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Quote from: kken01 on May 04, 2015, 03:31:07 PM

favdesu since its so easy i had to disable ad block for one session Grin

also i checked the box for begging to look/click ads

I tried to disable adblock and disconnect, still no ads. Someone report it for me please

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favdesu since its so easy i had to disable ad block for one session Grin

also i checked the box for begging to look/click ads

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Quote from: holdembot on May 04, 2015, 03:20:39 PM

Quote from: miaviator on May 04, 2015, 03:11:30 PM

https://hashtalk.ch/topic/37328/lets-play-what-does-your-ad-say
https://archive.is/ZdNqc

My adblocked site says no ads. Google says:

https://www.google.com/adsense/localized-terms

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MrCEO is really going down the uberRetard hole. Is he seriously making these childish posts. Every day his UberRetardism is getting worse and worse.

People are responding with the types of ads they see.

1) Isn't this begging for ad views against every advertisers T&C?
2) How desperate for money are you when you have to ask people to look at your ads?
3) Now that hashtalk is "independent" why is Homero begging people to look at ads?

*On the note of forums and advertising: I voluntarily leave ads turned on here at bitcointalk to support the forum vs clicking the disable ads checkbox.

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how to report hashtalk as google ad terms violation:

from here on it's obvious. report for no privacy info, and "force to click"

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