Topic: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io ION ionomy. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :) - page 806. (Read 3377922 times)

Eric your word goes a long way of restoring Joes reputation imo. some of the emails are damning but we do not know what was said behind closed doors which seems like Mr. Garbanzos modus operandi. the fact that he is not willing talk about paycoins future in a recorded setting (even if its behind closed doors but recorded to avoid misunderstandings etc) speaks VOLUMES

I can confirm that Marshal Long will also accept chocolate twinkies.

In my opinion Eric has proven (and has been proven through documents I've read) he was one of the clean ones involved in the company and got out when he realized the big picture.  Joe on the other hand sits on the council of Primes. Off the top of my head he owns 5 PC's and is leasing some out to XPYtrust.

Agreed. This whole latest fork is simply to make Paycoin appear less scammy so that the scam can continue. If these people actually wanted to fix inflation they would pull the coins out of the Prime Controller addresses. If the statement " We will publicly burn the XPY staked from our PC's" bullshit smells right, you are very easily played for a fucking fool. Why create coins to destroy them? Empty the fucking address ya fucking moron, and then you don't create the coins to begin with. A fucking 5 year old could figure this out. What the fuck? Cmon, that is an obvious lie being tossed out to con gullible idiots to keep playing along with the scam for fucks sake.

Explain the concept of the "hybrid flex blockchain." How was it supposed to work, what were the benefits, what was done to make it happen, and why hasn't it been implemented?

Also explain the amps that were used on hashlets and how they worked without being a ponzi scheme.

Everyone on the inside should be able to explain those things and how they worked, or exactly how someone else on the inside lied to you about those things and how they worked or you are just as guilty as Josh.

State Bar Association would be the 1st step to file a complaint against a lawyer.

http://hirealawyer.findlaw.com/choosing-the-right-lawyer/state-bar-associations.html

I do not, nor have I ever, owned a single Paycoin.

I was never issued any by the company, nor have I ever purchased one from the company nor any person or exchange.

The only time I've ever interacted with Paycoin was building the company wallets and initial prime controller daemons.

TL;DR, I have no coins to destroy, kind sir.

So in your opinion how much due diligence lawyers should do before sending out letters on behalf of their clients?

For example Garza claims he owns hardware, trolls doubt it, Garza wants to send out C&Ds. Is the lawyer supposed to just take Garza's word for it?

How about merchants and partnerships? If Garza is claiming he has partnerships with merchants and Coin Fire should stop writing about it, is that all that's needed for a C&D?

http://www.scribd.com/doc/248372603/Coinfire-Cease-and-Desist#scribd

Also from Reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2tiufi/ccn_author_fired_questions_about_ccn_ill_address/


This guy is such a scumbag, and to think people like this report "news" is disgusting.

No I am not. I was following up your comment with a comment. I do not know you nor your reputation.

I hope you are not suggesting that I am involved in any way in XPY.  I have been calling this a scam since the original thread, and I even predicted back in October that Josh would exit the scene and blame it the SEC and FinCEN!

I hold exactly 1 XPY and 1 Hashtaker, which I bought only to create a second account on Hashtalk when my first account was shadowbanned (for asking difficult questions about the pre-mine).  I have used my account on Hashtalk to ask questions and try to bring some light to this scam as best I could without getting shadowbanned again.

My belief is that it might be a good idea to fork XPY to get rid of all Prime Controllers and get rid of wallets known to be associated with Josh/GAW.  You can question that all you want, but if you want to try to make me a part of this scam you better have your facts straight.

To Eric and Joe back away from PayCoin 100% and destroy your coins. Prove it.

Actions speak louder than words. Publicly state that PayCoin is a pre-mined scam coin and the whole enterprise, and anyone involved with its development, promotion, or sale is a scammer.

No, that is not what I said at all. Nice try though.

What I said is that if it is not 'open to all' then there must be a qualifying set of conditions, which are defined by a governing body. It is this instance that then exposes the 'governing body' to liability for the project by way of them asserting their authority over the coin project.

Which is ENTIRELY different from declaring that all ICO's *must* be open to all.

Your legalese kung fu is extremely weak.

For anyone who cares about my opinion on the matter.... ^ This is all true

A few days after I resigned, I drove from CT to MS on my way home to TX. I stopped in Hattiesburg and had a long face-to-face talk with Joe. It was then that I shared the hard truths I had learned in CT, some of which he had familiarity with, some of which was definitely news to him. I also know that he began his exit very soon after that talk, just not as quickly as I had dropped everything in CT and left.

For anyone that cares what I think, I've gotten to know Joe really well over the past 10 months and I have nothing but respect for him. He's of sound character, but shares a common weakness with the rest of us that "fell for it" and did this guy's dirty work. We had a passion for crypto-currency and 'building cool shit' (not saying that any of the final products ended up being 'cool shit' at all). Our biggest fault was trusting a manipulative and deceitful person that conned us into thinking he shared the same values. In the end we learned that there were very different motivations at the top of the food chain, we were just too focused on our individual jobs to realize the bigger picture. I also know that Joe has mirrored my efforts in the past few months to help "shine some light" on the operation, and yes I am being intentionally vague due to the ongoing "situation."

I have nothing really to gain by stepping in and speaking on Joe's character, I'm just sharing my 648 XPY (or however many equals two cents). FWIW, Joe and I (as well as several others) are still working with the appropriate 'parties' to bring all of this to an end.

Regardless, I respect everyone's right to their own opinion. It's criticism and free speech that keeps the world honest.

2 Crooks 1 Coin?

Crooks eating their own. Greed is a powerful force to a scam artist. Getting rid of one crook's coins makes the coins of other crooks more valuable to them. It's all about the pump. The pump. The pump. It's all about the dump. The dump. The dump.

Forget morally/ethically/legally right or wrong.

Why would you/anyone participate/hold/use/invest/develop in a coin if this is done. It can be done to bitcoins, but bitcoin works because it's so hard that it's almost impossible to do. Why would you bother wasting any time/energy/money on a coin that has shown can be taken away like that? It just doesn't make sense It can be done, but doing it should kill the coin so why do it?

I mean this saga (and crypto, in general imo) is full of people that suck at logic and common sense, but wouldn't this be a bridge too far? Forget the morality of the fork, look at the reality that will happen in the aftermath. A coin that has shown that it can easily be taken/blacklisted if you piss off a group of people that are either morally corrupt or incompetent to be involved in this mess up to this point. Doesn't seem like a smart idea to me.

Matlock's keyboard must have died midway in that sentence.

I am sure he meant to type: "he is only in it to try and help himself"

I will be happy to compare qualifications to make this statement with yours.


Really?  So in your crack legal analysis, all coin ICOs must be public, open to all?  You cannot limit for accredited investor status?  You cannot limit participation by criminals?  You cannot simply pick your friends?  This is a new legal idea, the ICo must be open to all.  Please enlighten us on the laws which require such.

Matlock said in one of the videos that he was just in it to try and help.  Just take a really close look at the figure heads of team paycoin and you'll realize its just a bag of snakes.