GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-) - page 219.

suchmoon

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Proof of them scamming.
He is the CEO of GAW.
Do you really want me to go through these threads to show you people who said that there's no hosting and the whole thing is a lie? I read some just yesterday.
If I'm correct there are also innosilicon miners on the shelves (those silver ones) not only Zeus, but I'm a mining noob.

I don't think I accused "them" of scamming, in fact at the very bottom of my OP I explained how it doesn't have to be a ponzi.

I do think that "he" is lying a lot and I still think that beyond GAW hosting there is no 138 GH/s Zen/Hashlet mining operation.

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Quote from: alienesb on August 19, 2014, 03:45:34 PM

So... you just keep moving the bar huh?

I don't believe I am moving it. I stated quite clearly in my original post that the doubts I have are about ZenCloud and then Hashlets. I don't think these pictures of a room with some miners on shelves meet the lofty claims about those services. For starters the scale seems to be off by about two orders of magnitude. But it looks like the CEO is going to post more pictures, so let's wait and see.

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Get Paid Crypto To Walk or Drive

Why is it more expensive to get more?

1 MH/s = $15.99
5 MH/s = $79.99
15 MH/s = $239.99

5 X 15.99 = $79.95, seems to be cheaper to buy 5 of the smaller offers
3 X 79.99 = $239.97

That doesn't make much sense to me. Was about to pull the trigger and buy a small one to test it out, but that is oddly suspicious.

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 19, 2014, 02:43:06 PM

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Who cares which one is the hashlet? Maybe all of it. The buliding is there and so are the miners, which means those who said he's not mining should take it back.
You can like the guy or not but next time please refrain from prosecuting him until you get some proof.

Proof of what? And who is "he"?

Some of the pictures had already been posted two months ago:

https://hashtalk.org/t/gaw-miners-generation-a-hosted-update/1347

The was never any doubt that GAW hosting was real (read the first post), at least it had and still has hashrate showing up on pools etc. It was just not working properly. But now this magic Zen cloud that GAW purchased just recently is actually the same "datacenter"? And the revolutionary multi-algo hashlet, a result of "most ambitious R&D initiative ever" is actually made by Zeus? Well I guess by GAW standards this is within acceptable limits of bending the truth.

Ok, I realize some of us wanted pictures and we got pictures of something. And the address. Great. Hopefully we'll be getting the rest of it soon. Like where is the 138 GH/s.

So... you just keep moving the bar huh?

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Quote from: KriszDev on August 19, 2014, 03:23:10 PM

If this is cloudmining then why they need my address?

Billing address perhaps?

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If this is cloudmining then why they need my address?

suchmoon

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Who cares which one is the hashlet? Maybe all of it. The buliding is there and so are the miners, which means those who said he's not mining should take it back.
You can like the guy or not but next time please refrain from prosecuting him until you get some proof.

Proof of what? And who is "he"?

Some of the pictures had already been posted two months ago:

https://hashtalk.org/t/gaw-miners-generation-a-hosted-update/1347

The was never any doubt that GAW hosting was real (read the first post), at least it had and still has hashrate showing up on pools etc. It was just not working properly. But now this magic Zen cloud that GAW purchased just recently is actually the same "datacenter"? And the revolutionary multi-algo hashlet, a result of "most ambitious R&D initiative ever" is actually made by Zeus? Well I guess by GAW standards this is within acceptable limits of bending the truth.

Ok, I realize some of us wanted pictures and we got pictures of something. And the address. Great. Hopefully we'll be getting the rest of it soon. Like where is the 138 GH/s.

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Quote from: demme on August 19, 2014, 12:32:58 PM

Quote from: suchmoon on August 19, 2014, 12:28:52 PM

Quote from: seedtrue on August 19, 2014, 12:06:21 PM

Data enter pictures have been posted. https://hashtalk.org/t/data-center-pictures/6448

chill with the conspiracy theories now Roll Eyes

So which one of these is a hashlet now? I can see some Ants and some Zeus and Innosilicon (?) hardware.

Although there is some useful data in it:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=89.246497W+31.210067N

Brand new warehouse?

It's unclear. Street View is dated May 2009. Google needs to do another drive by.

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Quote from: suchmoon on August 19, 2014, 12:28:52 PM

Quote from: seedtrue on August 19, 2014, 12:06:21 PM

Data enter pictures have been posted. https://hashtalk.org/t/data-center-pictures/6448

chill with the conspiracy theories now Roll Eyes

So which one of these is a hashlet now? I can see some Ants and some Zeus and Innosilicon (?) hardware.

Although there is some useful data in it:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=89.246497W+31.210067N

Brand new warehouse?

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Quote from: seedtrue on August 19, 2014, 12:06:21 PM

Data enter pictures have been posted. https://hashtalk.org/t/data-center-pictures/6448

chill with the conspiracy theories now Roll Eyes

So which one of these is a hashlet now? I can see some Ants and some Zeus and Innosilicon (?) hardware.

Although there is some useful data in it:

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=89.246497W+31.210067N

demme

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Quote from: seedtrue on August 19, 2014, 12:06:21 PM

Data enter pictures have been posted. https://hashtalk.org/t/data-center-pictures/6448

chill with the conspiracy theories now Roll Eyes

Finally

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Data center pictures have been posted. https://hashtalk.org/t/data-center-pictures/6448

chill with the conspiracy theories now Roll Eyes

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Quote from: jeroenn13 on August 19, 2014, 08:16:05 AM

Quote from: demme on August 19, 2014, 08:04:05 AM

Maybe that is because the are using old stuff right now and when newer and less power demanding units arrive they will lower cost ? I dont know but it is high atm yes

But seriously. using old stuff now. You could get charged these fees until they have new hardware? This could be 2015..

I am just speculating, I really dont know anything!

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Quote from: demme on August 19, 2014, 08:04:05 AM

Maybe that is because the are using old stuff right now and when newer and less power demanding units arrive they will lower cost ? I dont know but it is high atm yes

But seriously. using old stuff now. You could get charged these fees until they have new hardware? This could be 2015..

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Maybe that is because the are using old stuff right now and when newer and less power demanding units arrive they will lower cost ? I dont know but it is high atm yes

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Calculation:

21.5 MH = 0.0145 BTC/DAY = 6.88$ (475$ per Bitcoin)
Maintenance costs (0.08$/MH) = 1.72$

= 25% Maintenance Costs!

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Quote from: jeroenn13 on August 19, 2014, 07:24:56 AM

Anyone have trouble connecting to www.hashtalk.org?

It always goes up n down...think that is when they remove all the negative posts

Well I recently placed a negative message about the high maintenance costs (Promising they will change the maintenance in the future, currently it's extremely high.). Seems like a PRE-ORDER at BFL.)
Thats why I am asking. Still not able to connect, could it be a ban or something?

Calculation:

21.5 MH = 0.0145 BTC/DAY = 6.88$ (475$ per Bitcoin)
Maintenance costs (0.08$/MH) = 1.72$

= 25% Maintenance Costs!

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Quote from: jeroenn13 on August 19, 2014, 07:24:56 AM

Anyone have trouble connecting to www.hashtalk.org?

It always goes up n down...think that is when they remove all the negative posts

Very funny you're so clever!

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Anyone have trouble connecting to www.hashtalk.org?

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one "proof" is: they no longer sell gaw / zeus hardware: http://gawminers.com/collections/all-miners

so either they are not producing hardware any more.. but then it is unlikely that they ran out of stock for fury as well as falcon as well as war machine as well as ... ( X6 Generation ) on the same day!

or they put all their miners in the zencloud. they even had those 88 Mhash Miners, wo probably nobody bought for 4000 usd.. they have to be somewhere! nobody will buy them nowadays with this low ltc value! the same counts for the original zeusminer hardware.. zeusminer sells it massively overpriced.. only hashra is real distrubutor now.. so where has all these zeusminer hardware gone produced in the last months? i think it is in zeushash und zenminer!

so i think 130 Ghash is possible! Maybe not in this very moment.. and they are now paying some weeks off the own pocket.. but i am really sure that they will use the 2.000.000 USD from this weekend to buy new miners.. so that they will have 500 Ghash in one month.. and then everything will be fine!

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