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hero member
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September 06, 2014, 07:25:07 AM
Just a suggestion...

do not buy on the same cloud.zenminer.com account both Scrypt and SHA-256 virtual machines...

Just use 2 separate accounts...

In fact, BTC difficulty is increasing very much (15% - 20% difficulty increases every 10 days), and by few months, you could loose a part of Scrypt mining profits, just paying SHA-256 maintenance fees...

Anyway, I think too that most probably the mining farm should rebate maintenance fees according to market situation...
But it is better to be careful...

What's  the benefit of using two accounts?! Maintenance fees at GAW Miners will be adjusted downward (n their words: "adjusts to always remain profitable"), so based on that there's no risk of losing scrypt coins to SHA256 fees.
On top of that, and this is quite a biggie, the Hashlet Genesis is a Hashlet Prime, so you can (in the near future/weeks) switch from SHA256 to Scrypt mining and back again.

The genesis isn't a prime, it can't switch back. The prime can switch to genesis and back though.
hero member
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MΣC
September 06, 2014, 07:01:33 AM
Just a suggestion...

do not buy on the same cloud.zenminer.com account both Scrypt and SHA-256 virtual machines...

Just use 2 separate accounts...

In fact, BTC difficulty is increasing very much (15% - 20% difficulty increases every 10 days), and by few months, you could loose a part of Scrypt mining profits, just paying SHA-256 maintenance fees...

Anyway, I think too that most probably the mining farm should rebate maintenance fees according to market situation...
But it is better to be careful...

What's  the benefit of using two accounts?! Maintenance fees at GAW Miners will be adjusted downward (n their words: "adjusts to always remain profitable"), so based on that there's no risk of losing scrypt coins to SHA256 fees.
On top of that, and this is quite a biggie, the Hashlet Genesis is a Hashlet Prime, so you can (in the near future/weeks) switch from SHA256 to Scrypt mining and back again.
legendary
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September 06, 2014, 05:34:19 AM
Just a suggestion...

do not buy on the same cloud.zenminer.com account both Scrypt and SHA-256 virtual machines...

Just use 2 separate accounts...

In fact, BTC difficulty is increasing very much (15% - 20% difficulty increases every 10 days), and by few months, you could loose a part of Scrypt mining profits, just paying SHA-256 maintenance fees...

Anyway, I think too that most probably the mining farm should rebate maintenance fees according to market situation...
But it is better to be careful...

1)I do agree 2 accounts makes a lot of sense.


2)  Your projections for btc diff rise are high.

Jun 29 to July 12 = 13 days and 3.08 %
July 12 to July 25 = 13 days and 8.08 %
July 25 to Aug 08 = 13 days and 5.30 %
Aug 08 to Aug 19 = 11 days and 20.86 %
Aug 19 to Aug 31 = 12 days and 15.03%
Aug 31 to now   8 to 13% jump

in the last 62 days  we had an increase of about 64 percent.  Which is closer to 10% a jump.  Some think the btc network is getting pretty full in size and longterm growth will be under 10%  per diff jump.
legendary
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September 06, 2014, 03:00:01 AM
Just a suggestion...

do not buy on the same cloud.zenminer.com account both Scrypt and SHA-256 virtual machines...

Just use 2 separate accounts...

In fact, BTC difficulty is increasing very much (15% - 20% difficulty increases every 10 days), and by few months, you could loose a part of Scrypt mining profits, just paying SHA-256 maintenance fees...

Anyway, I think too that most probably the mining farm should rebate maintenance fees according to market situation...
But it is better to be careful...
legendary
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September 06, 2014, 02:17:51 AM
So let me think:

When i buy 200GH/S it costs me 200Dollar

0.00002780 per Day/GH/S = 0.0133 * 200 = 2,66$/Day


When i buy 9 Hashlets it costs me 200Dollar

0.0006721 per Day/MH/S =  0.0006721 * 9  =  2,7$/Day



So why i should use the GenesisHashlet???

You forgot the daily maintenance costs:

200GH Hashet Genesis: $0.01 / 5GH so 200GH / 5 GH = 40 x 0.01 = $0.40 / day maintenance, so you keep $2.26/day
9MH Hashlet Solo on Zenpool ( 0.00063912 BTC on Zenpool according to my rates page): $0.08 / 1 MH so 9 x $0.08 = $0.72 / day maintenance, so you keep $1.98 / day
This is of course if your calculations of what you would earn are correct !

According to my Zenpool stats your 9MH Hashlets would make 0.00063912 x 9 = 0.00575208 BTC / day = ~$2.77 /day before maintenance deduction (so ~$2.05 after)

Maybe I messed up some calculations somewhere ..
Make sure you calculate the maintenance fees in when you do a ROI or daily profit calculation!

-edit-
Average payout I posted does not specify if that's / 1GH , 5GH or 10GH. I assume 10GH. Can anyone confirm?

This is payout for 1 GHs



and this is cost for 5 Ghs

newbie
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September 06, 2014, 01:16:09 AM
So let me think:

When i buy 200GH/S it costs me 200Dollar

0.00002780 per Day/GH/S = 0.0133 * 200 = 2,66$/Day


When i buy 9 Hashlets it costs me 200Dollar

0.0006721 per Day/MH/S =  0.0006721 * 9  =  2,7$/Day



So why i should use the GenesisHashlet???

You forgot the daily maintenance costs:

200GH Hashet Genesis: $0.01 / 5GH so 200GH / 5 GH = 40 x 0.01 = $0.40 / day maintenance, so you keep $2.26/day
9MH Hashlet Solo on Zenpool ( 0.00063912 BTC on Zenpool according to my rates page): $0.08 / 1 MH so 9 x $0.08 = $0.72 / day maintenance, so you keep $1.98 / day
This is of course if your calculations of what you would earn are correct !

According to my Zenpool stats your 9MH Hashlets would make 0.00063912 x 9 = 0.00575208 BTC / day = ~$2.77 /day before maintenance deduction (so ~$2.05 after)

Maybe I messed up some calculations somewhere ..
Make sure you calculate the maintenance fees in when you do a ROI or daily profit calculation!

-edit-
Average payout I posted does not specify if that's / 1GH , 5GH or 10GH. I assume 10GH. Can anyone confirm?
newbie
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September 06, 2014, 12:57:18 AM
So let me think:

When i buy 200GH/S it costs me 200Dollar

0.00002780 per Day/GH/S = 0.0133 * 200 = 2,66$/Day


When i buy 9 Hashlets it costs me 200Dollar

0.0006721 per Day/MH/S =  0.0006721 * 9  =  2,7$/Day



So why i should use the GenesisHashlet???
newbie
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September 06, 2014, 12:46:02 AM
The new hashlet is the Hashlet Genesis - SHA256
They start at $9.95 for 10GH bundles, and have a $0.02 maintenance for every 10GH!

More info http://gawminers.com/pages/hashlet-genesis
I bought one.

When you activate it you can select from 1 of the 4 available btc pools:
Code:
Name	                Average Payout
NiceHash SHA256        0.00002780 BTC
BTC Guild        0.00001834 BTC
GHASH.IO        0.00001834 BTC
Multipool.us SHA256 0.00001690 BTC

Hope that answers some of the questions you have prior to buying.

Picture from my ZenPortal showing the Icon and pool for my Haslet Genesis:
http://i.imgur.com/5kNvr5U.jpg
newbie
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September 06, 2014, 12:43:17 AM
Whats the new HashletGenesis?

Which Pool, and which return/per day when i buy 100GH/S?

hero member
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September 05, 2014, 07:24:43 PM
New hashlet to be released any minute now! Check out hashtalk or gaw homepage, or link in sig!
hero member
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September 05, 2014, 01:54:26 PM
Multihaslet, maybe brown, i guess!!!!!
you cannot change the pool of a Hashlet Solo, it sticks with the pool you bought it for, in your case Multipool Wafflepool (is the brown one)
What happens if the operator of Wafflepool shuts down the site?  I didn't really understand the price increase just for the ability to switch pools or stay on one pool.
Did GAW make deals with the pool operators?  Like Clevermining and Wafflepool?  It hasn't made sense to mine SCRYPT on Wafflepool in a long time, or am I missing something?

Several pool operators have confirmed that they have had no contact with GAW whatsoever, and have not seen any rise in hashrate commensurate with GAW's claimed power.
There is no evidence that the Hashlets exist in any form, or are actually mining on any pool, or any coin.
What you are buying is a contract which will pay you the equivalent rate that you would have earned if you were hashing on Wafflepool, minus maintenance fees. They may or may not actually be mining.
As the expected overall return from that contract is negative, GAW could simply take your initial money, then slowly return it to you, and still make a profit, with no actual mining required.
they have provided this address as one of them. currently at 62Gh but has hit over 140Gh. not everyone can make up over 100Gh

http://clevermining.com/users/1BT9cPLGRep7nXnvo9JoXn6H7sSd5Em2WE


actually, i just found this thread. it seems someone else mentioned it belonging to sfire and then someone misinterpreted as belonging to zen and then the rumor spread. my apologies
https://hashtalk.org/topic/2516/zenpool-howdeedoodat-some-thoughts/
hero member
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September 05, 2014, 01:52:42 PM
Multihaslet, maybe brown, i guess!!!!!
you cannot change the pool of a Hashlet Solo, it sticks with the pool you bought it for, in your case Multipool Wafflepool (is the brown one)

What happens if the operator of Wafflepool shuts down the site?  I didn't really understand the price increase just for the ability to switch pools or stay on one pool.

Did GAW make deals with the pool operators?  Like Clevermining and Wafflepool?  It hasn't made sense to mine SCRYPT on Wafflepool in a long time, or am I missing something?

Most people are accepting that they are being pointed at the "Zenpool" and getting payouts; but if they are buying the WaffleHashlet then it's mining on the Wafflepool as SCRYPT?  Which is currently showing 75% profitability vs LTC?

If a pool shuts down what happens to your miner pointed at it?  I'm sorry if this has been answered somewhere, I haven't seen it.
more than likely they will switch you to a similar one
hero member
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September 05, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
Updated:

Just got first payout:

25 Mh x 0.00062926 would be 0.01573; however my payout was .0100 @ 9:16 am EST
Did not see mention of fees.

Not much transparency in how payouts are made. I understand each Mh has a fee of 0.08 for a total of $2 in my case per day. But again I cannot see any detailed break down from the dashboard.


Still waiting for my payout it's been over 24hrs...  From my understanding. Payouts start around 8 EST up to about 12 EST. Will update once I see a payout.

BTW I purchased zen solo; has a payout of about 0.00062926 according to their site. It's the highest for the different hashlets.


since it's your first payout it probably means you didn't have it for 24 hours and thus the reduced payout
hero member
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September 05, 2014, 01:50:01 PM
So the only benefit for the Hashlet Prime is the fact you can change pools and they "might" introduce new algorithms?

Did everyone who bought the standard Hashlet get upgraded to a Prime? If so, it really makes me think it's not worth the money. To go from $16 to $40 for no reason..

yup ,at the moment there's no reason, but I think that will slowly change.
For example, they are making an announcement tonite (they usually send emails to all customers by email the next day) at hashtalk.org
hero member
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September 05, 2014, 01:49:02 PM
I just registered on this site because I was thinking about purchasing a 100 mh hashlet from gawminers. Are they scammers or do they pay out when they are suppose to? I don't feel like wasting time/money/energy on a scam.

so far they seem completely legit, though not without hiccups. customer service can be slow, but in general, there's no proof that they are a scam.
they also sell physical miners, which at least tells you they have plenty of miner, unlike other cloud mining companies that have nothing to show
newbie
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September 05, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
Update 2:

Reviewed hashtalk.org, very confusing but was able to find  a link stating payouts were from 8am EST to 12noon EST.

Just got payment for day 2: payout time is 11:22am EST, with empty post to the balance tab. Yesterday after I did not see payments I opened a ticket. I'm wondering if these guys are still working and getting thinks working, and I have to keep emailing them to get daily payments.
Did not get paid on day 2, very worrisome for a new product/service.

Another complaint is lack of timings in their timeline. The balance tab is the only one with date and time stamp, the activity tab is missing time stamp.

Reason I make mention is that I purchased 25 Mh zen hashlets on 9/3, and had them activated around 5am EST. If payout cutoff is 7:59am EST then I should have got paid that same day; I did not.

9/3 5am activated 25 Mh Zen hashlets, no payouts for few hours of work.

9/4 full 24 hours after activation should have had payment of 0.015 instead got 0.0100, without any
Maintenance fees. Payout time was 9:19 EST, I had already created a ticket after I did not see a payout after 8amEST.

9/5 Empty payout at 11:22 EST, about to create a ticket. Don't know why 9/4 was fine and 9/5 would not be. On 9/4 balance was fully update within the hour of payout, today it is not.
hero member
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September 05, 2014, 11:12:48 AM
We are also awaiting a SHA256 announcement.
Eager to see what this brings us.

Yeh me too! Ready to buy some more mining shiz! Been really impressed so far, time will tell though until I hit ROI.
legendary
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September 05, 2014, 10:36:54 AM
We are also awaiting a SHA256 announcement.
Eager to see what this brings us.
sr. member
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September 05, 2014, 09:25:35 AM
That's true, I heard that they are leasing a lot of their hash power to other companies. People were even speculating that all this hash might be used to crack phones. Cheesy
I also heard they might be mining a lot of different altcoins at the same time. I'm sure they are mining, but not with all their hardware. Maybe 20% is mining and the rest is leased? Anyway, they said they can't disclose this information.
hero member
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September 05, 2014, 10:28:33 AM
There's meant to be a massive announcement tonight, maybe the Hashlet Primes are going to get a treat?
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