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Topic: [GBT Protocol - ASIC] - BitArena.net - Mining Pool - Prop - 0% Fees. - page 2. (Read 13902 times)

legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
jjiimm_64 after il present the formula you can let me know if there is a bug or something or what i need to fix , what was my first post reply?

"New hooping prof fell free to test it" i never said Pool reset or something.

eagerly awaiting 'formula' so we can "mine" on your pool!!
legendary
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1097
Gree, don't waste your time on responding messages and go ahead of the method specs. I'm really interested in it Smiley.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Hmm, I'm thinking scammer tag might be warranted here.  I wasn't really going to advocate for that, but given the ops reluctance honor the agreement he made with his miners when he started the pool and now his inability or unwillingness to provide any sort of "proof" for this hopper proof method smells like a giant scam at this point.  I wonder if we solved a block and he pocketed the 50 coins now.  I didn't bother looking at the blockchain around that time... may be worth investigating.

In either case, he's scammed me out of 1.3 millions shares at this point, possibly even ~50 BTC.

Calm down , i`m sick or you i have told you all your shares are HERE just wait a few minute to write the formula so you can understand it, and then you can decide what you will do if you will mine or not.
vip
Activity: 980
Merit: 1001
Greee showed on the 1st page he had little understanding of running a pool, if you read through further he misunderstood a question about paying out txn fees to miners.
Inaba knew full well when he pointed his 500Gh here that the pool may never find a block, hoppers left and pool hashrate plummeted to 1.2Ghash....
Neither of you are shining atm.

I actually tried to help by posting information about payout systems - i stopped reading the thread soon after.
organofconti tried to help too I see

I went through trying to reinvent the wheel when my pool changed from prop - then decided there were better systems than I could invent.
There are accepted ways of changing reward systems - some research would have saved the pool op a *lot* of pain
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
jjiimm_64 after il present the formula you can let me know if there is a bug or something or what i need to fix , what was my first post reply?

"New hooping prof fell free to test it" i never said Pool reset or something.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
Hmm, I'm thinking scammer tag might be warranted here.  I wasn't really going to advocate for that, but given the ops reluctance honor the agreement he made with his miners when he started the pool and now his inability or unwillingness to provide any sort of "proof" for this hopper proof method smells like a giant scam at this point.  I wonder if we solved a block and he pocketed the 50 coins now.  I didn't bother looking at the blockchain around that time... may be worth investigating.

In either case, he's scammed me out of 1.3 millions shares at this point, possibly even ~50 BTC.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
No, you can not make changes in the middle of a round if you expect people to trust you.  You offered a pool with a set of parameters which I agreed to mine on.  If you want to change your parameters, you wait until AFTER the round is over.  You don't change it after I've already given you my hashes.

What's to stop you from doing that to others in the future?  Nothing, because you have no integrity.  You've demonstrated the fact that you can and will take away users shares for any reason you see fit and not pay them for it.   You have zero integrity at this point and you continue to compound your problem.  You will never have a successful pool with that sort of mind set.


Please get lost Inaba. I have no fees and i have no reason to steel or something like that i just love this , i have money / servers i just love to work and create so please get lost with your ideas , i will protect full time miners not hoopers like you.

I will repeat myself i will GLADLY restore your shares if you will continue mining.
So your pool is all about the blackmail?

New proposal:

Greee must either:

-Pay Inaba the expected value of the shares he submitted (no, I don't mean PPS, I'm sure organofcorti can provide us with the average expected value of said shares when mined on a prop pool).
Or:
-Switch back to the old payout system and restore Inaba's sharecount, then switch to the new payout method at the end of the round.
Or:
-Get a scammer tag.

Shadow383 is the same payout system and prop, but he have some hoopers proof rules, that i will fully explain in a few moments.

i`m not stupid to steal or something lol , i just install some hooping proofs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1YmS_VDvMY

Thank you Smiley in a few moments.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
Please respond to the following use case:


I mine at your pool with my 4 gig rig
my 4 gigs is 10% of pool
we mine for 4 days and I have about 100k shares and 10% of the pool shares
my hard drive crashes, rig is down.


what happens to all my work?


edit:  or better yet

I mine with all of my 54gig
i mine for 4 days and i am 50% of pool (jtfr 260 usd of electricity)
my internet goes offline for extended period of time


what happens to my work?

please respond to the above scenarios

jjiimm_64 i have all users shares backup and i can restore it in a few sec , i just want to explain the hooping prof formula so you can all understand it before i restore your shares and what are the risks if you not mine anymore.

Thank you.

you did NOT answer the question, what happens if a miners internet goes down for extended period of time?
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
No, you can not make changes in the middle of a round if you expect people to trust you.  You offered a pool with a set of parameters which I agreed to mine on.  If you want to change your parameters, you wait until AFTER the round is over.  You don't change it after I've already given you my hashes.

What's to stop you from doing that to others in the future?  Nothing, because you have no integrity.  You've demonstrated the fact that you can and will take away users shares for any reason you see fit and not pay them for it.   You have zero integrity at this point and you continue to compound your problem.  You will never have a successful pool with that sort of mind set.


Please get lost Inaba. I have no fees and i have no reason to steel or something like that i just love this , i have money / servers i just love to work and create so please get lost with your ideas , i will protect full time miners not hoopers like you.

I will repeat myself i will GLADLY restore your shares if you will continue mining.
So your pool is all about the blackmail?

New proposal:

Greee must either:

-Pay Inaba the expected value of the shares he submitted (no, I don't mean PPS, I'm sure organofcorti can provide us with the average expected value of said shares when mined on a prop pool).
Or:
-Switch back to the old payout system and restore Inaba's sharecount, then switch to the new payout method at the end of the round.
Or:
-Get a scammer tag.

Shadow383 is the same payout system and prop, but he have some hoopers proof rules, that i will fully explain in a few moments.

i`m not stupid to steal or something lol , i just install some hooping proofs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1YmS_VDvMY
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
Please respond to the following use case:


I mine at your pool with my 4 gig rig
my 4 gigs is 10% of pool
we mine for 4 days and I have about 100k shares and 10% of the pool shares
my hard drive crashes, rig is down.


what happens to all my work?


edit:  or better yet

I mine with all of my 54gig
i mine for 4 days and i am 50% of pool (jtfr 260 usd of electricity)
my internet goes offline for extended period of time


what happens to my work?

please respond to the above scenarios

jjiimm_64 i have all users shares backup and i can restore it in a few sec , i just want to explain the hooping prof formula so you can all understand it before i restore your shares and what are the risks if you not mine anymore.

Thank you.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
No, you can not make changes in the middle of a round if you expect people to trust you.  You offered a pool with a set of parameters which I agreed to mine on.  If you want to change your parameters, you wait until AFTER the round is over.  You don't change it after I've already given you my hashes.

What's to stop you from doing that to others in the future?  Nothing, because you have no integrity.  You've demonstrated the fact that you can and will take away users shares for any reason you see fit and not pay them for it.   You have zero integrity at this point and you continue to compound your problem.  You will never have a successful pool with that sort of mind set.


Please get lost Inaba. I have no fees and i have no reason to steel or something like that i just love this , i have money / servers i just love to work and create so please get lost with your ideas , i will protect full time miners not hoopers like you.

I will repeat myself i will GLADLY restore your shares if you will continue mining.
So your pool is all about the blackmail?

New proposal:

Greee must either:

-Pay Inaba the expected value of the shares he submitted (no, I don't mean PPS, I'm sure organofcorti can provide us with the average expected value of said shares when mined on a prop pool).
Or:
-Switch back to the old payout system and restore Inaba's sharecount, then switch to the new payout method at the end of the round.
Or:
-Get a scammer tag.

Shadow383 is the same payout system and prop, but he have some hoopers proof rules, that i will fully explain in a few moments.

i`m not stupid to steal or something lol , i just install some hooping proofs.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
Please respond to the following use case:


I mine at your pool with my 4 gig rig
my 4 gigs is 10% of pool
we mine for 4 days and I have about 100k shares and 10% of the pool shares
my hard drive crashes, rig is down.


what happens to all my work?


edit:  or better yet

I mine with all of my 54gig
i mine for 4 days and i am 50% of pool (jtfr 260 usd of electricity)
my internet goes offline for extended period of time


what happens to my work?

please respond to the above scenarios
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
YOU ARE A POOL HOOPER MAN, get a life.
....So?
You had no policy in place that said you would penalise pool hoppers in any way at the time Inaba joined.

IL REPEAT IL RESTORE YOUR SHARES with a simple command IF YOU WILL CONTINUE MINING. Our hooping proof system remove hoopers shares. If they come the system will restore them .... i`l present the full formula in a few moments.

This "few moments" is really starting to stretch out.


Regardless, you don't just change the payout method mid-round specifically to screw over your biggest contributor. A Scammer tag beckons.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
There is no way I am mining on a pool who's operator is an admitted thief, you have got to be kidding, right?

I never steel , i`m not a thief.

Ok are you stupid or what? wtf is this?

YOU ARE A POOL HOOPER MAN, get a life.

IL REPEAT IL RESTORE YOUR SHARES with a simple command IF YOU WILL CONTINUE MINING. Our hooping proof system remove hoopers shares. If they come the system will restore them .... i`l present the full formula in a few moments.
sr. member
Activity: 336
Merit: 250
No, you can not make changes in the middle of a round if you expect people to trust you.  You offered a pool with a set of parameters which I agreed to mine on.  If you want to change your parameters, you wait until AFTER the round is over.  You don't change it after I've already given you my hashes.

What's to stop you from doing that to others in the future?  Nothing, because you have no integrity.  You've demonstrated the fact that you can and will take away users shares for any reason you see fit and not pay them for it.   You have zero integrity at this point and you continue to compound your problem.  You will never have a successful pool with that sort of mind set.


Please get lost Inaba. I have no fees and i have no reason to steel or something like that i just love this , i have money / servers i just love to work and create so please get lost with your ideas , i will protect full time miners not hoopers like you.

I will repeat myself i will GLADLY restore your shares if you will continue mining.
So your pool is all about the blackmail?

New proposal:

Greee must either:

-Pay Inaba the expected value of the shares he submitted (no, I don't mean PPS, I'm sure organofcorti can provide us with the average expected value of said shares when mined on a prop pool).
Or:
-Switch back to the old payout system and restore Inaba's sharecount, then switch to the new payout method at the end of the round.
Or:
-Get a scammer tag.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 1000
Please respond to the following use case:


I mine at your pool with my 4 gig rig
my 4 gigs is 10% of pool
we mine for 4 days and I have about 100k shares and 10% of the pool shares
my hard drive crashes, rig is down.


what happens to all my work?


edit:  or better yet

I mine with all of my 54gig
i mine for 4 days and i am 50% of pool (jtfr 260 usd of electricity)
my internet goes offline for extended period of time


what happens to my work?
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
There is no way I am mining on a pool who's operator is an admitted thief, you have got to be kidding, right?
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
No, you can not make changes in the middle of a round if you expect people to trust you.  You offered a pool with a set of parameters which I agreed to mine on.  If you want to change your parameters, you wait until AFTER the round is over.  You don't change it after I've already given you my hashes.

What's to stop you from doing that to others in the future?  Nothing, because you have no integrity.  You've demonstrated the fact that you can and will take away users shares for any reason you see fit and not pay them for it.   You have zero integrity at this point and you continue to compound your problem.  You will never have a successful pool with that sort of mind set.


Please get lost Inaba. I have no fees and i have no reason to steel or something like that i just love this , i have money / servers i just love to work and create so please get lost with your ideas , i will protect full time miners not hoopers like you.

I will repeat myself i will GLADLY restore your shares if you will continue mining.
legendary
Activity: 1260
Merit: 1000
No, you can not make changes in the middle of a round if you expect people to trust you.  You offered a pool with a set of parameters which I agreed to mine on.  If you want to change your parameters, you wait until AFTER the round is over.  You don't change it after I've already given you my hashes.

What's to stop you from doing that to others in the future?  Nothing, because you have no integrity.  You've demonstrated the fact that you can and will take away users shares for any reason you see fit and not pay them for it.   You have zero integrity at this point and you continue to compound your problem.  You will never have a successful pool with that sort of mind set.
newbie
Activity: 28
Merit: 0
You made the drama for yourself by stealing shares.  You were told not to run a prop pool from the start, but you went ahead and did it anyway because you thought you knew better.

Now, when you finally realize you have no idea what you're doing, you switch mid round and steal all the work because of a mistake YOU made, which people tried repeatedly to enlighten you about and you refused to listen.  That's two mistakes you made and you are trying to blame the users?  Really?

Good luck man, your pool will never succeed if you steal from your users like that. 

So if i run prop i cant make updates or hooping proof settings? I have to stay like this because i say so?

i`m not blaming users i`m blaming just you for all of this so get lost.

I was friendly with you some users have fairly told me what was your idea i was new on this and i start to learn so please let the drama and kissing asses beware of your pool and let me do my work.

its still PROP and will remain prop but with extra protection from hoopers.. like you.

Have a nice/lovely life Inaba.
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