You made the drama for yourself by stealing shares. You were told not to run a prop pool from the start, but you went ahead and did it anyway because you thought you knew better.
Now, when you finally realize you have no idea what you're doing, you switch mid round and steal all the work because of a mistake YOU made, which people tried repeatedly to enlighten you about and you refused to listen. That's two mistakes you made and you are trying to blame the users? Really?
Good luck man, your pool will never succeed if you steal from your users like that.
Topic: [GBT Protocol - ASIC] - BitArena.net - Mining Pool - Prop - 0% Fees. - page 3. (Read 13902 times)
October 07, 2012, 01:02:00 PM
October 07, 2012, 12:58:20 PM
I'm sorry, no, it doesn't work like that. I mined on a prop pool, not a hop proof pool. I told you from the start:
You just did it. You can not be trusted. Plain and simple.
Yeah, that 43% is mine! All mine! God help you if you try to change the payout method in the middle of a block.
Grats on the fact that you pool didn't just explode when I pointed my farm at you. I am impressed with that at least.
Grats on the fact that you pool didn't just explode when I pointed my farm at you. I am impressed with that at least.
You just did it. You can not be trusted. Plain and simple.
Ok Inaba you are a hooper so please shut up don`t make any drama. I writing right now the new formula so you can understand it , if you will mine i will gladly restore your shares.
October 07, 2012, 12:55:42 PM
I'm sorry, no, it doesn't work like that. I mined on a prop pool, not a hop proof pool. I told you from the start:
You just did it. You can not be trusted. Plain and simple. Basically, this shows that if you ever run into a problem of your own making, you will penalize the users, not suck it up yourself. All the top pools have run into problems at some point or another, and you know what they all have in common: The operators accepted responsibility for the mistake and did not pass it along to the users. The ones that failed to do this are no longer around.
Yeah, that 43% is mine! All mine! God help you if you try to change the payout method in the middle of a block.
Grats on the fact that you pool didn't just explode when I pointed my farm at you. I am impressed with that at least.
Grats on the fact that you pool didn't just explode when I pointed my farm at you. I am impressed with that at least.
You just did it. You can not be trusted. Plain and simple. Basically, this shows that if you ever run into a problem of your own making, you will penalize the users, not suck it up yourself. All the top pools have run into problems at some point or another, and you know what they all have in common: The operators accepted responsibility for the mistake and did not pass it along to the users. The ones that failed to do this are no longer around.
October 07, 2012, 12:54:25 PM
Gree, you can't just go and reset the stats system mid-round. You need to pay Inaba for those shares.
Of course i`l restore his shares but he will lose them IF he don`t start mining.
So Inaba?
October 07, 2012, 12:54:21 PM
Yep, something like that, and the difficulty was lower then, too... so I'm not sure what the PPS rate was, but I could look it up.
October 07, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
Gree, you can't just go and reset the stats system mid-round. You need to pay Inaba for those shares.
October 07, 2012, 12:49:25 PM
So you want people to mine on your pool by stealing their hashing power? Good luck with that. Your pool is 100% fail from the start.
Theft of resources is unacceptable under any circumstance. Anyone mining on this pool will know that at any time you, the operator, will take their shares and BTC at will. You are basically admitting to being a thief now.
You, Greee, have now admitted to stealing 43% of the shares submitted to your pool. (Well, you've actually stolen 100% of the shares, but we won't quibble)
Theft of resources is unacceptable under any circumstance. Anyone mining on this pool will know that at any time you, the operator, will take their shares and BTC at will. You are basically admitting to being a thief now.
You, Greee, have now admitted to stealing 43% of the shares submitted to your pool. (Well, you've actually stolen 100% of the shares, but we won't quibble)
Anaba, didn't you submit like 1.3 million shares?
edit:
Greee, please dont take that as we are 'picking on you'. My motives for saying all these things is to help you not get into trouble later and maybe save you some time/headache.
Why didn't you take everyones advice and use DGM or some other hopper unfriendly method. (dgm can still be hopped, but not as lucratively)
October 07, 2012, 12:43:46 PM
So you want people to mine on your pool by stealing their hashing power? Good luck with that. Your pool is 100% fail from the start.
Theft of resources is unacceptable under any circumstance. Anyone mining on this pool will know that at any time you, the operator, will take their shares and BTC at will. You are basically admitting to being a thief now.
You, Greee, have now admitted to stealing 43% of the shares submitted to your pool. (Well, you've actually stolen 100% of the shares, but we won't quibble)
Theft of resources is unacceptable under any circumstance. Anyone mining on this pool will know that at any time you, the operator, will take their shares and BTC at will. You are basically admitting to being a thief now.
You, Greee, have now admitted to stealing 43% of the shares submitted to your pool. (Well, you've actually stolen 100% of the shares, but we won't quibble)
October 07, 2012, 12:43:05 PM
We have created this new hooping-proof formula so all non-active miners loses their shares.
!!! this is unacceptable, you will not get anybody to mine at your pool if you 'take' their shares. what if my miners crash? i lose my shares?
let me write the formula so you can understand it, then i`l gladly accept your feedback to modify or fix some bugs
October 07, 2012, 12:42:48 PM
We have created a hooping proof formula, feel free to test it.
I will explain it in a few moments
I will explain it in a few moments
what you have created is a 'mining proof' pool. taking shares?
October 07, 2012, 12:39:59 PM
... weird pm your ip to check some routes...
I had bitarena blocked at my router
))) no way October 07, 2012, 12:39:28 PM
We have created this new hooping-proof formula so all non-active miners loses their shares.
!!! this is unacceptable, you will not get anybody to mine at your pool if you 'take' their shares. what if my miners crash? i lose my shares?
I am sure i had more then 600 shares.
Average speed: 0 MHash/s
Est. reward this round: 0 BTC
Round shares: 646
Total Balance: 0 BTC
October 07, 2012, 12:38:16 PM
... weird pm your ip to check some routes...
I had bitarena blocked at my router
October 07, 2012, 12:36:36 PM
We have created this new hooping-proof formula so all non-active miners loses their shares.
October 07, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Umm, what happened to the round shares? They are at 0 and you don't have any solved blocks.
October 07, 2012, 12:29:33 PM
... weird pm your ip to check some routes...
October 07, 2012, 12:25:25 PM
We have created a hooping proof formula, feel free to test it.
I will explain it in a few moments
I will explain it in a few moments
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October 07, 2012, 12:09:14 PM
We have created a hooping proof formula, feel free to test it.
I will explain it in a few moments
I will explain it in a few moments
October 02, 2012, 10:39:42 AM
Are you argue with me?
We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?
Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.
Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.
Thank you.
We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?
Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.
Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.
Thank you.
Hate to argue with you but, miners could just connect right when it records your hashrate, then disconnect after its recorded. Then reconnect 10 minutes later, then disconnect... etc etc. Full payout while only mining say 1 minute every 10.
Well actually, that depends on if your using the average hashrate over the last 10 minutes, or if you are using instantaneous hashrate.
Not only that, but the fact is on very short rounds, the full time miners will not get 'their' full reward because other big miners will jump in and take a larger slice!!!
if you want hop-unfriendly .....use DGM
* jjiimm_64 goes back to popcorn
October 02, 2012, 04:58:39 AM
Are you argue with me?
We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?
Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.
Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.
Thank you.
We or i`m not a 12 years old kid, i like to create/build not to debate something... So please calm down , i`m confident that will be non-exploitable u need 100% answer?
Miners , answer only for "organofcorti": YES will be non-exploitable.
Please again let the miners decide that after will be live.
Thank you.
Hate to argue with you but, miners could just connect right when it records your hashrate, then disconnect after its recorded. Then reconnect 10 minutes later, then disconnect... etc etc. Full payout while only mining say 1 minute every 10.
Well actually, that depends on if your using the average hashrate over the last 10 minutes, or if you are using instantaneous hashrate.
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