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legendary
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cgminer must determine if a share (nonce) should be sent to the pool.

It would be really bad if it couldn't do that Smiley

When you tell cgminer you want all the extra information it can throw at you, by telling it '--verbose', one of the output lines is to tell you what it does with each nonce the chip returns to cgminer.

At 260GH/s you generate around 60.5 nonces of 1 difficulty, per second.
My pool doesn't want you sending that much crap to it Smiley
Nor do you want to increase your network flow by 202 times Smiley

My pool will set a work difficulty so that you are sending shares at around 18 per minute.
Thus cgminer must work out what difficulty each nonce is and if it should send it.
In verbose more it tells you for, on average, 201 of those 202 that their difficulty is too low.

https://kano.is/index.php?k=workdiff

Code:
 [2021-10-29 09:28:27.862] Accepted 4b97ce57 Diff 867/788 GSF 0

This means the pool is asking me for shares of 788 diff or higher (one GSF + one GSI)

Another way to look at this is that it means, on average, one in 788 nonces returned at 1 difficulty will be 788 difficulty.

However the driver I wrote will have already set the chip ticket mask (difficulty) to 16 at this stage, so only 16th of the nonces are returned by the chip over USB to cgminer.
Thus you'd see 16th of the messages in verbose mode.
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
For paying attention (and having intelligent posts) gave ya yer 1st Merit.  Smiley
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 2
@VanLife4Me, please edit your posts to use the code tag. Found on the tool bar it looks like #. Using it changes text logs to a much easier to look at scrollable box like this
Code:
cgminer version 4.12.0 - Started: [2021-10-28 17:59:42.804]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):870.0G (1m):841.4G (5m):813.9G (15m):805.1G (avg):799.4Gh/s
 A:1061242  R:0  HW:544  WU:11166.9/m
 Connected to stratum.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user xxxxxxxx.worker
 Block: bf5e4b2d...  Diff:20.1T  Started: [19:29:35.353]  Best share: 892K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 SB management [P]ool management ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSF 10050209: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (31:16) |  100% WU:100% | 196
 1: GSF 10050081: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (31:16) |  100% WU:100% | 293
 2: GSF 10050191: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 347
.1G / 268.0Gh/s WU:3744.1/m-----------------------------------------------------
 [2021-10-28 19:33:17.202] Accepted 375b762b Diff 1.18K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:18.604] Accepted 1a901997 Diff 2.47K/442 GSF 0
 [2021-10-28 19:33:19.002] Accepted 481c8428 Diff 909/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:20.763] Accepted 0d5c652a Diff 4.91K/442 GSF 0
 [2021-10-28 19:33:21.861] Accepted 52c80865 Diff 792/442 GSF 1
 [2021-10-28 19:33:22.101] Accepted 834b1bce Diff 499/442 GSF 1
 [2021-10-28 19:33:24.344] Accepted 5cfdf732 Diff 705/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:25.284] Accepted 091f85f6 Diff 7.18K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:29.083] Accepted 45308790 Diff 947/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:29.423] Accepted 25566981 Diff 1.75K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:30.581] Accepted 0400f618 Diff 16.4K/442 GSF 1

Done, and thank you for the tip.
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
@VanLife4Me, please edit your posts to use the code tag. Found on the tool bar it looks like #. Using it changes text logs to a much easier to look at scrollable box like this
Code:
cgminer version 4.12.0 - Started: [2021-10-28 17:59:42.804]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):870.0G (1m):841.4G (5m):813.9G (15m):805.1G (avg):799.4Gh/s
 A:1061242  R:0  HW:544  WU:11166.9/m
 Connected to stratum.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user xxxxxxxx.worker
 Block: bf5e4b2d...  Diff:20.1T  Started: [19:29:35.353]  Best share: 892K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 SB management [P]ool management ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSF 10050209: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (31:16) |  100% WU:100% | 196
 1: GSF 10050081: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (31:16) |  100% WU:100% | 293
 2: GSF 10050191: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 347
.1G / 268.0Gh/s WU:3744.1/m-----------------------------------------------------
 [2021-10-28 19:33:17.202] Accepted 375b762b Diff 1.18K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:18.604] Accepted 1a901997 Diff 2.47K/442 GSF 0
 [2021-10-28 19:33:19.002] Accepted 481c8428 Diff 909/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:20.763] Accepted 0d5c652a Diff 4.91K/442 GSF 0
 [2021-10-28 19:33:21.861] Accepted 52c80865 Diff 792/442 GSF 1
 [2021-10-28 19:33:22.101] Accepted 834b1bce Diff 499/442 GSF 1
 [2021-10-28 19:33:24.344] Accepted 5cfdf732 Diff 705/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:25.284] Accepted 091f85f6 Diff 7.18K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:29.083] Accepted 45308790 Diff 947/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:29.423] Accepted 25566981 Diff 1.75K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:30.581] Accepted 0400f618 Diff 16.4K/442 GSF 1
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 2
"Share above target" is probably something with the pool expecting a faster miner (more shares coming in) and it could take a few minutes to retarget.

NiceHash and proper cgminer don't work well together, because NiceHash requires some added protocol stuff that's demonstrably insecure and kano refuses to support it.

I'm still getting the Share above target on Kano where I have been running all morning.

Does this help?

cgminer version 4.12.0 - Started: [2021-10-28 17:59:42.804]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):720.6G (1m):776.9G (5m):756.4G (15m):524.5G (avg):796.0Gh/s
 A:186082  R:0  HW:128  WU:11117.7/m
 Connected to stratum.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user xxxxxxx.worker
 Block: 281d978b...  Diff:20.1T  Started: [18:13:35.427]  Best share: 459K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 SB management [P]ool management ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSF 10050209: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 276
 1: GSF 10050081: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:399 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 254
 2: GSF 10050191: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 223
.7G / 265.7Gh/s WU:3711.1/m-----------------------------------------------------
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.600] GSF 1: Share above target
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.600] 1: GSF 1 - AsicBoost nonce found : midstate 2
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.680] 1: GSF 1 - Device reported nonce: 8d5bfa0f @ 19 (0)
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.680] GSF 1: Share above target
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.680] 1: GSF 1 - AsicBoost nonce found : midstate 1
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.700] 1: GSF 1 - Device reported nonce: bc62f812 @ 19 (0)
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.700] GSF 1: Share above target
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.700] 1: GSF 1 - AsicBoost nonce found : midstate 1
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.842] 2: GSF 2 - Device reported nonce: 4f401734 @ 79 (0)
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.842] GSF 2: Share above target
 [2021-10-28

Looks like you have the "--verbose" command in your config/bat file. Take that out and see what you get listed on the cgminer screen.

Thank you, I turned that on when it seemed to not be working with Nicehash. So, this is what it should look like then?

Code:
cgminer version 4.12.0 - Started: [2021-10-28 17:59:42.804]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):870.0G (1m):841.4G (5m):813.9G (15m):805.1G (avg):799.4Gh/s
 A:1061242  R:0  HW:544  WU:11166.9/m
 Connected to stratum.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user xxxxxxxx.worker
 Block: bf5e4b2d...  Diff:20.1T  Started: [19:29:35.353]  Best share: 892K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSF 10050209: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (31:16) |  100% WU:100% | 196
 1: GSF 10050081: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (31:16) |  100% WU:100% | 293
 2: GSF 10050191: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 347
.1G / 268.0Gh/s WU:3744.1/m-----------------------------------------------------
 [2021-10-28 19:33:17.202] Accepted 375b762b Diff 1.18K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:18.604] Accepted 1a901997 Diff 2.47K/442 GSF 0
 [2021-10-28 19:33:19.002] Accepted 481c8428 Diff 909/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:20.763] Accepted 0d5c652a Diff 4.91K/442 GSF 0
 [2021-10-28 19:33:21.861] Accepted 52c80865 Diff 792/442 GSF 1
 [2021-10-28 19:33:22.101] Accepted 834b1bce Diff 499/442 GSF 1
 [2021-10-28 19:33:24.344] Accepted 5cfdf732 Diff 705/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:25.284] Accepted 091f85f6 Diff 7.18K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:29.083] Accepted 45308790 Diff 947/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:29.423] Accepted 25566981 Diff 1.75K/442 GSF 2
 [2021-10-28 19:33:30.581] Accepted 0400f618 Diff 16.4K/442 GSF 1

I suspect yes as it looks like this on Kano.is:

Code:
Worker Name:	Work Diff	:Last Share	Shares	:Diff	:Share Rate	«Elapsed	:Invalid	:Hash Rate	Info	:Best	:Best Ever
xxxxxxxx.worker 442 6s 7,165 3,166,930 656.67GHs 2m 39s 0.000% 806.25GHs LA/Bv 74.1786M 74.1786M
Total: 1 (1 active worker) 7,165 3,166,930 656.67GHs 0.000% 806.25GHs
hero member
Activity: 2534
Merit: 623
"Share above target" is probably something with the pool expecting a faster miner (more shares coming in) and it could take a few minutes to retarget.

NiceHash and proper cgminer don't work well together, because NiceHash requires some added protocol stuff that's demonstrably insecure and kano refuses to support it.

I'm still getting the Share above target on Kano where I have been running all morning.


Looks like you have the "--verbose" command in your config/bat file. Take that out and see what you get listed on the cgminer screen.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 2
"Share above target" is probably something with the pool expecting a faster miner (more shares coming in) and it could take a few minutes to retarget.

NiceHash and proper cgminer don't work well together, because NiceHash requires some added protocol stuff that's demonstrably insecure and kano refuses to support it.

I'm still getting the Share above target on Kano where I have been running all morning.

Does this help?

Code:
cgminer version 4.12.0 - Started: [2021-10-28 17:59:42.804]
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 (5s):720.6G (1m):776.9G (5m):756.4G (15m):524.5G (avg):796.0Gh/s
 A:186082  R:0  HW:128  WU:11117.7/m
 Connected to stratum.kano.is diff 442 with stratum as user xxxxxxx.worker
 Block: 281d978b...  Diff:20.1T  Started: [18:13:35.427]  Best share: 459K
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 [U]SB management [P]ool management [S]ettings [D]isplay options [Q]uit
 0: GSF 10050209: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 276
 1: GSF 10050081: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:399 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 254
 2: GSF 10050191: BM1397:01+ 400.00MHz T:400 P:400 (32:16) |  100% WU:100% | 223
.7G / 265.7Gh/s WU:3711.1/m-----------------------------------------------------
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.600] GSF 1: Share above target
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.600] 1: GSF 1 - AsicBoost nonce found : midstate 2
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.680] 1: GSF 1 - Device reported nonce: 8d5bfa0f @ 19 (0)
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.680] GSF 1: Share above target
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.680] 1: GSF 1 - AsicBoost nonce found : midstate 1
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.700] 1: GSF 1 - Device reported nonce: bc62f812 @ 19 (0)
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.700] GSF 1: Share above target
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.700] 1: GSF 1 - AsicBoost nonce found : midstate 1
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.842] 2: GSF 2 - Device reported nonce: 4f401734 @ 79 (0)
 [2021-10-28 18:15:59.842] GSF 2: Share above target
 [2021-10-28
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
"Share above target" is probably something with the pool expecting a faster miner (more shares coming in) and it could take a few minutes to retarget.

NiceHash and proper cgminer don't work well together, because NiceHash requires some added protocol stuff that's demonstrably insecure and kano refuses to support it.
hero member
Activity: 2534
Merit: 623

Er? Why? to feed the F 6A?
You can already do that with his hub -- if you do not mind vastly overloading the USB socket, just leave the other port open, plug in the F and crank her up. A dual to single adapter still faces that max 3A limit for the single socket.


Very good point! Totally forgot you could do that on the gekko hub. Just had a vague memory of someone doing that kind of thing in the past but now I think of it, it was probably to get around the per-port limit on a particular hub.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 2
So, I've read enough here to know some of you are successfully mining, is it just that I shouldn't be mining with NiceHash? If so, any recommendations?


Known good pools are kano.is and solo.ckpool.org

Use those to get everything configured correctly.

First question - to avoid top posting (which I guess I did) should I have quoted a previous message?

So, I'm connected to Kano now and getting the same issue "Share above target" and suggestions on how to attack that? Is it going to be a matter of getting the voltages right? At the moment I'm running one stick and one fan at a time. I'm using all equipment from bitcoinmerch.

Thanks for being patient with a new guy. I've spent several days making sure I'd tried everything I could figure out from internet searches.
legendary
Activity: 3583
Merit: 1094
Think for yourself
So, I've read enough here to know some of you are successfully mining, is it just that I shouldn't be mining with NiceHash? If so, any recommendations?


Known good pools are kano.is and solo.ckpool.org

Use those to get everything configured correctly.
newbie
Activity: 12
Merit: 2
Hello all, newbie here, but I have read this whole thread a few times.

I've got my three CompacF miners running with CGMiner at 400 (I have meters coming Friday to further tune voltage), but when I mine with NiceHash I end up with most of my shares being discarded. Their help says this has something to do with my mining software and overclocking.

So, I've read enough here to know some of you are successfully mining, is it just that I shouldn't be mining with NiceHash? If so, any recommendations? I'd like to generate revenue regularly as this is part of my DCA stacking strategy.

Thanks in advance for any help you all can provide, finding this thread has made my life so much easier!

legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
Thats probably why it hasnt been mentioned. Its not as linear as the previous sticks. Cheers Kano.

EDIT:-

Just throwing this out there. But would there be a market for a dual to single usb pcb to join two ports together on the gekko hub? So you can run a compac-f at full speed?
Er? Why? to feed the F 6A?
You can already do that with his hub -- if you do not mind vastly overloading the USB socket, just leave the other port open, plug in the F and crank her up. A dual to single adapter still faces that max 3A limit for the single socket.
hero member
Activity: 2534
Merit: 623
Thats probably why it hasnt been mentioned. Its not as linear as the previous sticks. Cheers Kano.

EDIT:-

Just throwing this out there. But would there be a market for a dual to single usb pcb to join two ports together on the gekko hub? So you can run a compac-f at full speed?
legendary
Activity: 4592
Merit: 1851
Linux since 1997 RedHat 4
About: 65GH/s +/- 5% per 100MHz

GH/s per Hz is lower at lower frequencies
GH/s per Hz is higher at higher frequencies (within limits)

i.e. as long as you have enough cooling, once it gets over the 300-350MHz mark, it should show a better ratio.
hero member
Activity: 2534
Merit: 623
OK, got just 1 @ this point, so i can pull 6 Amps out of 1 port when leaving other 1 unoccupied. (This what i make out of your remark Smiley  )

You can but its certainly not advisable.

EDIT:

Is there a rough performance spec for it like we had with the Newpacs?

Quote
=================
=Expected Performance=
=================
The expected performance of the NewPac is about 0.228 * MHz = GH. 
At the default frequency of 100MHz, the NewPac runs at 22.8 GH.
legendary
Activity: 3374
Merit: 1859
Curmudgeonly hardware guy
Officially I'm not allowed to endorse that strategy because the USB jacks themselves aren't rated for that kind of current.

But yes, each pair of ports has 6 total amps available. Check the underside label for pairings.
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 85
so i just bought one @ Bitshopper.

I can use this stick with an gekkosience hub Right?

Very curious if it is as brilliant as newpac and R606 Smiley



Yep. I’ll be running 6 of them on my gekko hub but not at max speed due to the amperage per port. The ports share a 6amp inductor(?) between them so a max of 3amp per port which is around 500-525mhz each stick.
OK, got just 1 @ this point, so i can pull 6 Amps out of 1 port when leaving other 1 unoccupied. (This what i make out of your remark Smiley  )
hero member
Activity: 2534
Merit: 623
so i just bought one @ Bitshopper.

I can use this stick with an gekkosience hub Right?

Very curious if it is as brilliant as newpac and R606 Smiley



Yep. I’ll be running 6 of them on my gekko hub but not at max speed due to the amperage per port. The ports share a 6amp inductor(?) between them so a max of 3amp per port which is around 500-525mhz each stick.
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 85
so i just bought one @ Bitshopper.

I can use this stick with an gekkosience hub Right?

Very curious if it is as brilliant as newpac and R606 Smiley

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