It fails as an analogy
No, it doesn't, and you can change that fact no matter how hard you wish it to be.
You are American. Born free in the richest country in the world and you can't change that fact no matter how hard you wish.
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No, it doesn't, and you can change that fact no matter how hard you wish it to be.
You are American. Born free in the richest country in the world and you can't change that fact no matter how hard you wish.
It fails as an analogy
No, it doesn't, and you can change that fact no matter how hard you wish it to be.
Endlessly. You are obsessed with being like a slave. I happen to think that slavery was very unpleasant and you trivialise it by comparing your good fortune with the misery of slaves.
You are not a slave. Your life is not remotely like that of a slave. Stop being so immature.
You are not a slave. Your life is not remotely like that of a slave. Stop being so immature.
It's. A fucking. Analogy.
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It fails as an analogy and frankly its insulting to try to ask for pity in such silly terms. For all I know you have real problems that I would sympathise with. But I don't see being born American as a reason for pity. You have no reason to compare yourself to a house slave, field slave or any other kind of person who wasn't born in freedom.
Endlessly. You are obsessed with being like a slave. I happen to think that slavery was very unpleasant and you trivialise it by comparing your good fortune with the misery of slaves.
You are not a slave. Your life is not remotely like that of a slave. Stop being so immature.
You are not a slave. Your life is not remotely like that of a slave. Stop being so immature.
It's. A fucking. Analogy.
"... count your blessings" is to levels of freedom
as
"... count your blessings" is to levels of slavery
Neither one is a justification for the grievances inflicted upon the relatively better off.
edit... a simpler analogy in the hope that you can wrap your head around it...
BitterTea, the relatively wealthy, relatively free United States Citizen is to the average human being on the planet
as
the house slave, the relatively taken care of, relatively free slave is to the average slave
Nowhere in there am I saying that BitterTea == slave
You are American. On a global standard, you are born rich and free. Instead of comparing yourself to a slave, why not count your blessings?
"You are a house slave. On a plantation standard, you are born rich and free. Instead of comparing yourself to a field slave, why not count your blessing?"
Still not a justification for slavery. How many times do we have to go through this?
Endlessly. You are obsessed with being like a slave. I happen to think that slavery was very unpleasant and you trivialise it by comparing your good fortune with the misery of slaves.
You are not a slave. Your life is not remotely like that of a slave. Stop being so immature.
You are American. On a global standard, you are born rich and free. Instead of comparing yourself to a slave, why not count your blessings?
"You are a house slave. On a plantation standard, you are born rich and free. Instead of comparing yourself to a field slave, why not count your blessing?"
Still not a justification for slavery. How many times do we have to go through this?
You are American. On a global standard, you are born rich and free. Instead of comparing yourself to a slave, why not count your blessings?
Comparing being born rich and free
Bullshit, on both counts.
with being born a slave is a very bad analogy.
I was merely trying to get through to you that
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Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.
is not a justification for binding me to some dead men's signature, any more than
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Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery.
is a justification for slavery.
Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.
"Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery."
Still not a justification for slavery.
Being born in a rich free county makes you feel that you are as badly off as the people shipped to the plantations and worked to death.
Are you asking for pity?
Do they not teach analogies in your public school system?
Comparing being born rich and free with being born a slave is a very bad analogy.
Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.
"Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery."
Still not a justification for slavery.
Being born in a rich free county makes you feel that you are as badly off as the people shipped to the plantations and worked to death.
Are you asking for pity?
Do they not teach analogies in your public school system?
Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.
"Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery."
Still not a justification for slavery.
Being born in a rich free county makes you feel that you are as badly off as the people shipped to the plantations and worked to death.
Are you asking for pity?
Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.
"Look on the bright side...there are worse plights to have been born into than slavery."
Still not a justification for slavery.
I don't think I said "we" as I am not American.
What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them.
Do you not agree with that?
What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them.
Do you not agree with that?
I want to implement nothing.
I merely object to the idea that a piece of paper, written and signed by men long dead, to which I never agreed, should be binding upon me.
Collectivist terms. How ironic.
I don't think I said "we" as I am not American.
What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them.
Do you not agree with that?
What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them.
Do you not agree with that?
I want to implement nothing.
I merely object to the idea that a piece of paper, written and signed by men long dead, to which I never agreed, should be binding upon me.
Its a bit like being born rich or poor. In an ideal world, you'd get to choose first but sadly, you pop out and are lumbered with your skin colour, nationality, culture and a lot of other stuff.
Look on the bright side...there are worse places to have been born that the US.
I don't think I said "we" as I am not American.
What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them.
Do you not agree with that?
What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them.
Do you not agree with that?
I want to implement nothing.
I merely object to the idea that a piece of paper, written and signed by men long dead, to which I never agreed, should be binding upon me.
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http://freestateproject.org/
The closest thing we have to what I have stated.
: ) Also, thank you, Hawker.
http://freestateproject.org/
The closest thing we have to what I have stated.
: ) Also, thank you, Hawker.
Nice idea. I love New Hampshire in summer
With respect, I don't have any wars. You must be mixing me up with someone else.
You said "we" are the government. Why are you not also accountable for their wars? Sounds like "we" are the government only when it is convenient for your rationalizations.
I don't think I said "we" as I am not American.
What I said is that if you want to implement your interpretation of the US constitution, that affects other people and you need to justify it to them.
Do you not agree with that?
With respect, I don't have any wars. You must be mixing me up with someone else.
You said "we" are the government. Why are you not also accountable for their wars? Sounds like "we" are the government only when it is convenient for your rationalizations.
What you can't do is tell other people how they should live.
You're such a fucking hypocrite! That's exactly what you do when you threaten to put people in jail for not funding your wars!
With respect, I don't have any wars. You must be mixing me up with someone else.
What you can't do is tell other people how they should live.
You're such a fucking hypocrite! That's exactly what you do when you threaten to put people in jail for not funding your wars!
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There will be a good portion of the populace that won't, we can band together and change a state to one without border restrictions. If we can't even do that much, we're not a significant movement and thus not notable. The defense forces must have eliminated all issues with our borders in your case.
There will be a good portion of the populace that won't, we can band together and change a state to one without border restrictions. If we can't even do that much, we're not a significant movement and thus not notable. The defense forces must have eliminated all issues with our borders in your case.
At least you know where you stand. There is nothing to stop you all moving to Arizona right now and having the border dismantled. That won't happen - there is no American constituency for that.
http://freestateproject.org/
The closest thing we have to what I have stated.
: ) Also, thank you, Hawker.
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