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Quote from: Soonandwaite on December 10, 2023, 05:23:27 PM

Saarbrücken : Mönchengladbach
Hertha BSC Berlin : Kaiserslauten
Leverkusen : Stuttgart
FC St. Pauli : Fortuna Düsseldorf

This is awesome. One game I'll be looking forward to is the Bayern Leverkusen vs Stuttgart match. They're having a fantastic domestic campaign this season, both occupying first and third positions on the Bundesliga and their encounter two days ago ended in a stalemate. A rematch in the DFK Pokal trophy quarter finals would prove who's superior. I've a feeling that whoever scales through out of this meeting would go on to lift the trophy, but time will tell.

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Quote from: bct_ail on December 12, 2023, 05:11:52 AM

Saarbrücken has shown a lot of surprises so far and it will be interesting to see whether they can make another surprise against Mönchengladbach. They are certainly capable of it.

Leverkusen vs. Stuttgart is a top match, just like in the Bundesliga 1. If Mönchengladbach will not win, then only one club from Bundesliga 1 would still be in the DFB Cup. So there are more chances for the little ones to win the DFB Cup.

i can't remember that there have ever been so few bundesliga clubs . 8 teams and only 3 from the 1st bundesliga .
i think that leverkusen and st. pauli have quite good chances to reach the final. but you have to wait a little bit for the results of the
quarter-finals and then the draw for the semi-finals. maybe there will even be a surprise in the final which nobody is expecting today

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Quote from: mv1986 on December 10, 2023, 06:05:11 PM

Quote from: Soonandwaite on December 10, 2023, 05:23:27 PM

here is the complete draw from today

the green teams are my favourites in the quarter-finals

Saarbrücken : Mönchengladbach
Hertha BSC Berlin : Kaiserslauten
Leverkusen : Stuttgart
FC St. Pauli : Fortuna Düsseldorf

This is what I did not want to see to be honest, Leverkusen against Stuttgart comes too early.

Saarbrücken has shown a lot of surprises so far and it will be interesting to see whether they can make another surprise against Mönchengladbach. They are certainly capable of it.

Leverkusen vs. Stuttgart is a top match, just like in the Bundesliga 1. If Mönchengladbach will not win, then only one club from Bundesliga 1 would still be in the DFB Cup. So there are more chances for the little ones to win the DFB Cup.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on December 10, 2023, 05:23:27 PM

today was the draw for the quarter-finals of the dfb cup . will a second division team reach the final ?
two second division teams are guaranteed to reach the semi-finals . almost all the top teams have already been eliminated .
only stuttgart , leverkusen and mönchengladbach are still in the competition as bundesliga teams .
the four matches will be played at the end of january / beginning of february. here is the complete draw from today

the green teams are my favourites in the quarter-finals

Saarbrücken : Mönchengladbach
Hertha BSC Berlin : Kaiserslauten
Leverkusen : Stuttgart
FC St. Pauli : Fortuna Düsseldorf

This is what I did not want to see to be honest, Leverkusen against Stuttgart comes too early. But whatever, I am so curious to see how far Saarbrücken can make it in this DFB Cup season. It's impressive what they are doing. I don't know when it was the last time that a 3. Bundesliga club eliminated two 1. Bundesliga clubs in a row, including Bayern! Cheesy

There is no need for them to hide at all now against Mönchengladbach. What was so impressive against Frankfurt was that they were playing quite on eye-level most of the time. Maybe a little fairytale is underway here. Wink

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today was the draw for the quarter-finals of the dfb cup . will a second division team reach the final ?
two second division teams are guaranteed to reach the semi-finals . almost all the top teams have already been eliminated .
only stuttgart , leverkusen and mönchengladbach are still in the competition as bundesliga teams .
the four matches will be played at the end of january / beginning of february. here is the complete draw from today

the green teams are my favourites in the quarter-finals

Saarbrücken : Mönchengladbach
Hertha BSC Berlin : Kaiserslauten
Leverkusen : Stuttgart
FC St. Pauli : Fortuna Düsseldorf

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Quote from: mv1986 on December 07, 2023, 12:47:20 PM

Regarding Hamburg, yes I thought the same when it became annoying to see them fight against the relegation zone for several seasons and now they literally mirror the whole thing but fight vainly for the promotion into the 1. Bundesliga... Hamburg has meme potential because, I don't know the exact number, but I think they finished 4th like four or five times? They have so much potential and investors like many other clubs don't and yet they are only good at wasting and messing up things.

Sure the David vs. Goliath kind of game can be interesting, but still I prefer some great names in the final. It is exciting when Saarbrucken kicks out Bayern and now Frankfurt and, well, if I think about it maybe Saarbrucken would be fun to watch in the final. But I am afraid sometimes that the final is like 4-0 after 25 minutes and that is not that entertaining.

Hamburg is one team who seems just like Everton in the EPL, season in and out they battle relegation but unlike Everton they were finally relegated. Now as a top team, finding a way back to top flight, Bundesliga shouldn’t be much a task but we see them messing up things at final stages. What’s the problem, the players or the coach?

I think this team needs just few additions and the team will be back to German top flight sooner than expected. Saarbucken has now kicked out 2 top German teams and are now in the Quater Finals, I don’t think they’ll go beyond this phase but if they do par adventure, it would be a delight to watch but teams like Stuggart and Bayern Leverkusen are now favorites to win this competition.

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I still very disappointed with Eintracht Frankfurt in yesterday match against Saarbrucken, who doesn't know which league they come from in Germany. What's worse, Eintracht Frankfurt played only with 10 players because they got a red card, at least my parlay bet lost just because I included Eintracht Frankfurt too. I think Eintracht Frankfurt will still play well in this match, because in the Bundesliga at least Eintracht Frankfurt is not bad at all. So yes, I put my trust in Eintracht Frankfurt to win, but in reality Eintracht Frankfurt actually lost with a score of 2-0 and Eintracht Frankfurt played badly in this match.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on December 07, 2023, 03:22:11 AM

Quote from: mv1986 on December 06, 2023, 06:19:24 PM

Now my hope is that we won't see Stuttgart - Leverkusen in the next round. That would be a bummer for the competition and all the rounds to come.

But there we go, Hamburg made the next miracle happen for their fans and conceded two goals in the last minute of regular time and overtime, respectively! Cheesy

I am sure it must feel great to be a Hamburg fan.

The goal against them in minute 120' was a huge evil pill to swallow for them. Off to new adventures in the 2. Bundesliga Tongue

Hamburg deserves all of it.
Back in the 1st league all they had to show for for years was the fact that they never got relegated to the 2nd league. Thank god at some point that ended and their last resort was crushed, haha. I am such a hater.

Well yeah, Stuttgart vs Leverkusen would be really shitty for the competition. On the other hand, wouldn't it be funny to see a 2nd tier team go to the final and maybe even win the cup? Grin

Who would have though we wouldn't see Bayern, Dortmund and/or Leipzig in the final 8 this year. As the saying goes, anything can happen in the cup.

Regarding Hamburg, yes I thought the same when it became annoying to see them fight against the relegation zone for several seasons and now they literally mirror the whole thing but fight vainly for the promotion into the 1. Bundesliga... Hamburg has meme potential because, I don't know the exact number, but I think they finished 4th like four or five times? They have so much potential and investors like many other clubs don't and yet they are only good at wasting and messing up things.

Sure the David vs. Goliath kind of game can be interesting, but still I prefer some great names in the final. It is exciting when Saarbrucken kicks out Bayern and now Frankfurt and, well, if I think about it maybe Saarbrucken would be fun to watch in the final. But I am afraid sometimes that the final is like 4-0 after 25 minutes and that is not that entertaining.

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Quote from: Oneandpure on December 06, 2023, 12:09:29 PM

Both team have good performed in domestic league, Dortmund success get draw from bayern leverkusen and stuttgart are in the top third standings in domestic league. Excited if both team will play with main players and not rotation yet for getting one place to quarter final round. In bundesliga match, Stuttgart won over 2-1 from Dortmund and your predicting seems accurate with Stuttgart will win DFB Pokal match to get one ticket in quarter final round.
Borussia Mönchengladbach is first teams qualified to quarter final of DFB Pokal round after beating Wolfsburg last night 1-0 and match extend until extra time, crucial for Mönchengladbach scored on 120th minutes by Manu Kone, now waiting several DFB Pokal matches result have Leverkusen, Frankfurt and Hamburger SV.

Dortmund and Stuggart in recent times have both performed excellently well and it’s going to be a tough one when both teams meet each other. I don’t think there’ll be any rotation because both teams see this match as quite important so as to get to the quarterfinals, however Dortmund played very brilliantly but too bad they could keep up defending Stuttgart's skipper, Guirassy from scoring the opener.

Stuggart came out top of this encounter though with a 2-0 margin which they worked hard for because the match was pretty even in terms of possession and statistics, Mochengladbach came to get win at extra time and joined some big German teams in the Quarter finals of the DFB Pokal, congrats to Stuttgart and Mönchengladbach for qualifying for the next round.

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Quote from: mv1986 on December 06, 2023, 06:19:24 PM

Now my hope is that we won't see Stuttgart - Leverkusen in the next round. That would be a bummer for the competition and all the rounds to come.

But there we go, Hamburg made the next miracle happen for their fans and conceded two goals in the last minute of regular time and overtime, respectively! Cheesy

I am sure it must feel great to be a Hamburg fan.

The goal against them in minute 120' was a huge evil pill to swallow for them. Off to new adventures in the 2. Bundesliga Tongue

Hamburg deserves all of it.
Back in the 1st league all they had to show for for years was the fact that they never got relegated to the 2nd league. Thank god at some point that ended and their last resort was crushed, haha. I am such a hater.

Well yeah, Stuttgart vs Leverkusen would be really shitty for the competition. On the other hand, wouldn't it be funny to see a 2nd tier team go to the final and maybe even win the cup? Grin

Who would have though we wouldn't see Bayern, Dortmund and/or Leipzig in the final 8 this year. As the saying goes, anything can happen in the cup.

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Now my hope is that we won't see Stuttgart - Leverkusen in the next round. That would be a bummer for the competition and all the rounds to come.

But there we go, Hamburg made the next miracle happen for their fans and conceded two goals in the last minute of regular time and overtime, respectively! Cheesy

I am sure it must feel great to be a Hamburg fan.

The goal against them in minute 120' was a huge evil pill to swallow for them. Off to new adventures in the 2. Bundesliga Tongue

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and today there was the first sensation in the dfb cup. third division team saarbrücken won 2:0 against frankfurt .
and dortmund can't win the dfb cup next year either, dortmund lost 2:0 in stuttgart . does Edin Terzic remain tariner of dortmund now ?
i think there is a lot of speculation in dortmund now. of the 8 teams in the quarter finals only 3 teams are from the 1st bundesliga .
is that a new record ? here are all the results from yesterday and today .

Edit: Hertha BSC Berlin : Hamburger SV 5:3 after penalty

source:https://www.flashscore.com/football/germany/dfb-pokal

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Quote from: Oneandpure on December 06, 2023, 12:09:29 PM

Quote from: Essential10 on December 06, 2023, 07:34:24 AM

VfB Stuttgart Vs Borussia Dortmund

Today at the MHPArena, the match between Stuttgart and Borussia Dortmund in the round of 16 of the DFB-Pokal is set to be an exciting one. Both the teams have come in good form. Stuttgart will be looking to build on their recent win over Dortmund in the Bundesliga and continue their strong form at home. Dortmund, on the other hand, will be keen to avenge their previous defeat to Stuttgart and continue their good run in the DFB-Pokal. They will be favorites to win given Stuttgart's recent Bundesliga form and their strong performance against Dortmund in their last meeting. However, Dortmund are determined to turn the tables and secure a win. I predict that Stuttgart should be an exciting encounter with a narrow win ensuring the next round. My Prediction: Stuttgart 3-2 Borussia Dortmund.

Both team have good performed in domestic league, Dortmund success get draw from bayern leverkusen and stuttgart are in the top third standings in domestic league. Excited if both team will play with main players and not rotation yet for getting one place to quarter final round. In bundesliga match, Stuttgart won over 2-1 from Dortmund and your predicting seems accurate with Stuttgart will win DFB Pokal match to get one ticket in quarter final round.
Borussia Mönchengladbach is first teams qualified to quarter final of DFB Pokal round after beating Wolfsburg last night 1-0 and match extend until extra time, crucial for Mönchengladbach scored on 120th minutes by Manu Kone, now waiting several DFB Pokal matches result have Leverkusen, Frankfurt and Hamburger SV.

This game is tough to have a clear opinion on, but in one of the pools I am playing I went with Stuttgart to qualify for the next round. I don't know, but in all the top matches that Dortmund played, it is like they are paralyzed in some parts of the game. It is not the highly agile, high pressing and fast counter attack team that they used to be some time ago. Haaland missing certainly makes a difference and Stuttgart is fun to watch because you can see how they enjoy every minute of the game no matter what opponent is waiting on the other side. Dortmund got lucky a few times and my guess here is that without luck in this game, the DFB Cup will end for them tonight.

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Quote from: Essential10 on December 06, 2023, 07:34:24 AM

VfB Stuttgart Vs Borussia Dortmund

Today at the MHPArena, the match between Stuttgart and Borussia Dortmund in the round of 16 of the DFB-Pokal is set to be an exciting one. Both the teams have come in good form. Stuttgart will be looking to build on their recent win over Dortmund in the Bundesliga and continue their strong form at home. Dortmund, on the other hand, will be keen to avenge their previous defeat to Stuttgart and continue their good run in the DFB-Pokal. They will be favorites to win given Stuttgart's recent Bundesliga form and their strong performance against Dortmund in their last meeting. However, Dortmund are determined to turn the tables and secure a win. I predict that Stuttgart should be an exciting encounter with a narrow win ensuring the next round. My Prediction: Stuttgart 3-2 Borussia Dortmund.

Both team have good performed in domestic league, Dortmund success get draw from bayern leverkusen and stuttgart are in the top third standings in domestic league. Excited if both team will play with main players and not rotation yet for getting one place to quarter final round. In bundesliga match, Stuttgart won over 2-1 from Dortmund and your predicting seems accurate with Stuttgart will win DFB Pokal match to get one ticket in quarter final round.
Borussia Mönchengladbach is first teams qualified to quarter final of DFB Pokal round after beating Wolfsburg last night 1-0 and match extend until extra time, crucial for Mönchengladbach scored on 120th minutes by Manu Kone, now waiting several DFB Pokal matches result have Leverkusen, Frankfurt and Hamburger SV.

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Xavi Alonso has been doing a fantastic job at Bayern Leverkusen. They're the only team in Europe yet to test defeat this season and tonight they will be locking horns with Paderborn in the round 16 of the DFB pokal cup. The cup has produced some shocking results but I do not really expect much resistance from Paderborn. Some first team players have been sidelined but I still expect the fielded players to get the job done. With Bayern Munich knocked out of the competition, they're one of the favourites to lift the trophy. A victory at Bay Arena would ensure that they're one step closer to their target.

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Quote from: AHOYBRAUSE on December 06, 2023, 12:23:21 AM

I'm happy to see Kaiserslautern to perform so well in the cup this year.
At the beginning they also looked quite good in the 2nd league but for some reason they fell off the radar and even had to change their coach recently.

Anyway, it's always nice to see traditional clubs woth a long history to perform well.

Today hopefully Dortmund will advance as well so they stay alive in 2 cups over the winter.
Playing in Stuttgart though is next to Leverkusen the hardest team they could meet in this round so my confidence level is not so high. Dortmund though is always good for a surprise ( as well as for a disappointment Cry

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Kaiserslautern performance was quite impressive especially judging from the ups and downs the team generally have been through, Changing the coach of a team especially halfway into the season could change the team’s performance generally either way but this side has made that change affect them positively and gained points were it mattered.

Dortmund will go through when they face Stuggart, though this match could give them some worries but they are going to come out top of this encounter and I’m so confident of that especially with the way they played Leverkusen, therefore facing Stuttgart wouldn't be very difficult for them even though Stuttgart would try to make it tough in the 1st 20-30 mins of the game.

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VfB Stuttgart Vs Borussia Dortmund

Today at the MHPArena, the match between Stuttgart and Borussia Dortmund in the round of 16 of the DFB-Pokal is set to be an exciting one. Both the teams have come in good form. Stuttgart will be looking to build on their recent win over Dortmund in the Bundesliga and continue their strong form at home. Dortmund, on the other hand, will be keen to avenge their previous defeat to Stuttgart and continue their good run in the DFB-Pokal. They will be favorites to win given Stuttgart's recent Bundesliga form and their strong performance against Dortmund in their last meeting. However, Dortmund are determined to turn the tables and secure a win. I predict that Stuttgart should be an exciting encounter with a narrow win ensuring the next round. My Prediction: Stuttgart 3-2 Borussia Dortmund.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on December 05, 2023, 05:33:17 PM

the first four teams qualified for the quarter-finals of the dfb cup today. there were no real surprises. three teams from the second bundesliga are still there.
and tomorrow there will definitely be a fourth team. hertha bsc berlin or hamburger sv. here again the results from tonight

I'm happy to see Kaiserslautern to perform so well in the cup this year.
At the beginning they also looked quite good in the 2nd league but for some reason they fell off the radar and even had to change their coach recently.

Anyway, it's always nice to see traditional clubs woth a long history to perform well.

Today hopefully Dortmund will advance as well so they stay alive in 2 cups over the winter.
Playing in Stuttgart though is next to Leverkusen the hardest team they could meet in this round so my confidence level is not so high. Dortmund though is always good for a surprise ( as well as for a disappointment Cry

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the first four teams qualified for the quarter-finals of the dfb cup today. there were no real surprises. three teams from the second bundesliga are still there.
and tomorrow there will definitely be a fourth team. hertha bsc berlin or hamburger sv. here again the results from tonight

source: https://www.flashscore.com/football/germany/dfb-pokal

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Quote from: bct_ail on December 05, 2023, 06:54:51 AM

Quote from: QueenVera on December 05, 2023, 05:28:52 AM

The cup games in most top European countries, placing a bet on those games might be quite risky as most of these top teams prefer chasing their league title and European titles rather than a less competitive title hence, the rotation in the squad. Owing to these rotations, surprises could spur out and lead to them playing against your prediction on your bet slip. An example is Bayern Munich who were defeated by a team who sits 15 on the log in the 3rd Division of the German League, that’s crazy.

You can see Bayern’s pointman, Kane out because to the coach, he needed to keep fit and stay cool for the league and the UCL and that risk really paid off. I think the League game in Germany will be quite complicating especially for a team like Leverkusen who still wants to keep chasing the title. Probably there could be rotation but would it result to the losing the game?? Well Xabi Alonso would do best what suits his team and in his choice, make the fan’s happiness his priority.

If the "little" clubs play against the big ones, I dare to bet some money. Especially when the clubs from League 3 downwards will play against Bayern Munich. In general, it seems that Bayern Munich are no longer have much interest in the DFB Cup (like you wrote about the case with Kane). They won the DFB Cup the last time in 2020. After that they only reached the 2nd round three times and the quarter-finals once. So if one have generally bet against Bayern Munich the last 4 times they have got a good win each time.

I am not sure if you have ever followed the drama taking place at the Säbener Street when Bayern gets kicked out of the DFB Pokal in an early round. If you wanna call that "no longer have much interest in the DFB Cup", something doesn't add up there! Cheesy

It is getting close to being the end of the world for a few days and a trainer discussion is automatically initiated. The media is slapping the club's face for a whole week wherever they can and the bosses are looking as if they just lost a loved one.

The truth is that Bayern played some very bad DFB Cup rounds in recent years and deserved to be eliminated. In the Bundesliga they can get away with losing a couple of games like that because there is no team ready to take the opportunity and win the title. That's the huge difference between the DFB Cup and the Bundesliga.

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