Topic: Germany DFB Cup 2023/2024 - Discussion and Prediction - page 5. (Read 986 times)

oha.the hamburger sv has to go to berlin . there was something..... in the relegation to the 1st bundesliga the hsv won 1:0 in berlin .
this time the result would be enough to get one round further . i think that 20k or even 25k hamburger fans will travel to berlin to support the hambuger team .
nevertheless hertha bsc berlin is for me the favourite in this match . i hope however that both hamburger teams win and that it then comes to the derby in the dfb cup

Stuttgart vs. Dortmund: This is definitely an exciting match. Both teams even play against each other in the Bundesliga 1 at Saturday. But one will not be able to take much from the game, as the DFB Cup match will be a completely different one.

Homburg vs. St. Pauli. A good draw for Homburg, which might even be seen on television. League 4 against the actual number one in the table from Bundesliga 2.

In addition to the shocking elimination of Bayern Munich from the competition Freiburg and Leipzig were also eliminated. Those were also surprising news for me.

Because I wouldn't expect those teams not to care about the DFB cup much. One of the biggest teams in the competition have been eliminated too now so the other teams have a much bigger chance to go for the title. Freiburg were statistically impressive but Paderborn must have played their most efficient match - 3 goals in 3 shots on target.

Aside from that Leipzig had a much tougher match against Wolfsburg. But their effort was quite poor which led to their elimination. Especially that red card shown to Poulsen was a big hit.

Now among the remaining teams Leverkusen and Dortmund are the biggest favourites. Maybe Stuttgart would surprise us but they need Guirassy recovered from the injury first.

Since Bayern and Leipzig are gone there is only one real highlight game left, and that's Stuttgart vs Dortmund.

The way Dortmund is playing, especially away, this should go to Stuttgart I think, I don't really understand why they are so strong this season, but somehow they are.
Saarbrücken also got a nice pick, another highlight for them. Maybe they can pull off the next big surprise?

The rest of the games is more "meh" in my eyes.

yesterday the draw for the round of sixteen in the dfb cup was made and the remaining 6 bundesliga clubs will once again have two bl duels. saarbrücken, who beat bayern, will play at home against eintracht frankfurt and the regional league team fc homburg (4th german league) will face the leaders of the 2nd bundesliga, st. pauli.
the complete pairings can be found in the graphic - the matches will be played at the beginning of december

In recent years I have always avoided placing bets on the cup games in each country because many of the big teams have a very complicated game schedule, so these big teams choose to rotate players when the cup starts, but when It's about being in the cup final, so these big teams play more seriously. I saw a lot of people commenting critically on Bayern's defeat, but when we look back a few months ago we can see that Bayern weren't doing well, they didn't have good results in terms of being that same team that scored a lot of goals, but they were doing well in the European champions league games, which in a way would make any fan think that the coach's position was guaranteed.

but what we saw in practice was that Bayern's management was much more concerned about the risk of not being able to win the Bundesliga and it didn't matter if the coach was doing well in the Champions League, so they fired the coach and I believe that Tuchel has We took this into consideration to the point of not risking Kane in this cup game and other good players didn't start playing, they entered the field during the game, probably to avoid injuries because Bayern in the next game will play against Dortmund, in a game which will be very important because currently Bayern are not at the top, they are in second place and a defeat or draw in this game against Dortmundo could put Bayern in a situation where they would see the title going away

and not winning the bundesliga could put tuchel's position at risk, in my opinion this defeat for bayern is not a surprise to me, this is because bayern is in a situation where they cannot have players with injuries, especially the defensive players and attack. Bayern's priority is to win the Bundesliga. Liverkusen won, but despite scoring 5 goals, they conceded 2 goals and tomorrow there will be a complicated game in the bundesliga, I'm still thinking whether to bet on them or not

I would advise you not to trust Bayern Munich ever in the DFB Pokal. Because they are always doing this sooner or later. This isn't the first time they are losing to a much lower tier team in this cup. They can even get very surprising results against Bundesliga teams in this cup such as the Monchengladbach example from two seasons ago - which ended up with a 5-0 loss. 

As a result it is the best to avoid betting on Bayern Munich win when it comes to this competition. They just don't care about it at all seemingly. We saw that in the Saarbrucken match as well. We saw really poor performances from players like Sane.

Bayern Munich was in this match better them the other team by a lot. They just couldnt convert their chances into goals and when you miss that much a punishment must come. Ofcourse it did in the last minute and they couldnt change anything. Bayern wanted to save some of the players but ended up getting knockout again from the cup.

@vennali I totally agree with your statement as this is a major upset and I guess Kane will be disappointed as he won’t be winning this trophy as a Bayern player this season. Lastly this exit should be a wake up call for Bayern that they cannot underestimate any opponent especially in Bundesliga where every point will matter as the season progresses ahead.

The difference is that, Bayern Munich are supposed to win pretty much every trophy they enter, to consider their season a successful one. While, for Arsenal, United, even winning 1 trophy at the moment will be considered a good season. Unfortunate for Bayern as its a major set back for their ongoing season. While also having their primary defender getting injured in the process.

Just as some other top teams in the Carabao cup like Arsenal and Manchester United were knocked out, Bayern suffered the same fate in the DFB-Pokal. They lost to me because they never expected it and most likely have underestimated FC SAARBRUCKEN. There was no Harry Kane in the team, maybe if he was in they would not have scored only one goal all through the game. Bayern have been knocked out from the competition a lot, with them now having one less competition to play, they should be able to focus more on defending the Bundesliga and winning the Champions league.

Bayern was just hilarious.
Imagine a team of mostly national players losing ( after having a 1:0 lead ) to a 15th place 3rd devision team, these stories are only written in cup games.

I checked and saw that betting Saarbrücken would have brought a 30:1 payout, that's some nice odds. 

Also, I feel sorry for all the thousands of people that put Bayern in their parley just to make the odds a tiny bit higher, but luck for these people.

Wow. What a surprise and what joy in Saarbrücken. Bayern Munich is knocked out in the second round. Goal from Saarbrücken in injury time. The DFB Cup is always good for surprises and proved it yesterday

It was also a surprise that Paderborn bowled out Freiburg.

The draw for the finals of the last 16 teams will take place at sunday. Only one team from League 3 and one from League 4 left. Let us see against whom they will play.

i think these green tips will advance one round today. bayern will also win and frankfurt will probably also win at viktoria köln. the only thing i'm unsure about is kiel against magdeburg. the guest from magdeburg could also win there. because the magdeburg fans will support their team in kiel very loudly.
but the dortmunden team is also unpredictable this season. this match is also sure to be highly interesting.

Good bye Hoffenheim.
Finally BVB is getting their shxt together and getting some good/ok results.
This should be enough to beat Hoffenheim at home. They still have their troubles to score but in the cup they mostly good at home.

Hopefully this will also be the case today, don't want to jinx it here. 

Two teams that are not in Bundesliga 1 or 2 still have a chance today to reach the next round and bowl out either Bayern Munich or Frankfurt. But I do not think Saarbrücken will have much of a chance. Viktoria Köln would have more of a chance. As you wrote, we will know more tonight.

The other games are:

Dortmund – Hoffenheim
Sandhausen – Leverkusen
Freiburg – Paderborn
Kiel – Magdeburg
Hertha Berlin – Mainz
Nürnberg - Rostock

yes. as i wrote a few weeks ago. the first 4 bundesliga clubs have been eliminated. leipzig,heidenheim , union berlin and 1.fc köln are no longer in it.
and tonight dortmund or hoffenheim are guaranteed to be eliminated. maybe we'll see one or two surprises in the eight games tonight but we'll see !
at 11 pm we'll all be wiser. the dfb cup is always good for a surprise.

Last years DFB Cup winner can no longer be this years winner. Leipzig was knocked out in the DFB Cup from VFL Wolfsburg. They won 1:0. Leipzigs player Poulsen even got a red card in minute 56.
And another surprise in the DFB Cup. FC Homburg from League 4 won against Fürth (League 2). Homburg is nearly the last team that is still in the DFB Cup but not in Bundesliga 1 or 2.

Not only clubs from Bundesliga 1 will be eliminated. There are also many teams from Bundesliga 2 will also play against each other.

It is a pity that many of the "small" clubs were already knocked out in the first round. There are only a few left that are not in Bundesliga 1 or 2. 5 teams from League 3 and only one from League 4 (FC Homburg).  Of course, many keep their fingers crossed for the small club for a win.

today was the draw for the second round of the dfb cup . some very very interesting duels are to be seen in the second round .
4 Bundesliga clubs are guaranteed to be eliminated in the second round. i have marked these duels in red below
all matches will take place on 31 october and 1 november.

Borussia Mönchengladbach - 1. FC Heidenheim
VfB Stuttgart- Union Berlin
Borussia Dortmund - TSG Hoffenheim
VfL Wolfsburg - RB Leipzig

SC Freiburg - SC Paderborn
Hertha BSC - FSV Mainz 05
1. FC Kaiserslautern - 1. FC Köln
FC St. Pauli - FC Schalke 04
1. FC Nürnberg - Hansa Rostock
Holstein Kiel - 1. FC Magdeburg
Viktoria Köln - Eintracht Frankfurt
SV Sandhausen - Bayer 04 Leverkusen
1. FC Saarbrücken - FC Bayern München
Arminia Bielefeld - Hamburger SV
SpVgg Unterhaching - Fortuna Düsseldorf
FC Homburg - SpVgg Greuther Fürth