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I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

Dortmund have actually lost their dominance in football and I think that’s why you’re not trusting them that much to win this match even through they’re the most favourite in this match to win and get three points. Anything can happen though but the tendency of them losing this game is very minimal and we should not because of them not performing as much as expected have a very big disregard for them not to win the match. I still see them as one of the major contenders for the league title. We will see and tell how far they can go in the league for the support to still remain valid till the end of the season.
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I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

Dortmund performance this season doesn't prove that they are capable of winning a trophy this season, from the beginning of the league I thought that Dortmund was going to play very well and compete with Bayern Munich, Leipzig and Leverkusen but after seeing Dortmund's performance in the last match they play I don't think they can compete with the big team's in the league and win a trophy, Dortmund last match against Werder was somehow poor because Dortmund can not score a goal in the match and the second half of the match Dortmund player got a red card in 73 minutes, some people might think the red card is the reason why Dortmund did not win the match but it is not the red card, Dortmund can not win the match and the red card was when the game is about to end.

Dortmund has a game today against Fc Heidenheim, I don't think betting on Dortmund to win the match is a good idea because Dortmund can still find it difficult to defeat Fc Heidenheim, Fc Heidenheim is not that strong like Dortmund but some teams that we didn't expect to play well against big team's surprise us by playing very well and also play a defensive game to not let the opponents score goals, so betting on Dortmund to win the match is risky but betting on the game for over 1.5 or for both teams to score a goal will be the best decision.
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Wolfsburg against Frankfurt will be also very interesting game.
Yep, both teams got the same result at the beginning of this season. On paper Wolfsburg should be able to beat Frankfurt because according to H2H Wolfsburg can always find Frankfurt weaknesses. But in the upcoming match both teams have a very small difference in odds because Wolfsburg lost several key players who were injured.
So the bookmakers give odds that are not much different. Wolfsburg odds @2.65 and Frankfurt @2.55

I avoid this match because I don't want to get a surprise from both teams that could destroy my betting slip.
It can be said that this is a balanced match between the two teams, seen from the odds given which do not have a significant difference, so usually the match will be difficult to predict and a draw can occur in a match like this.
Although the statistics of the meeting record point to one team, it does not guarantee that they will be able to do the same in a different match. the risk of betting on this match is so clear, so this can also be a consideration whether we will bet or not. Especially if we prefer parlay betting, so maybe this might hinder the bets we make, and the choice is to avoid it rather than having to fail to win just because the match on paper is difficult to predict.
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The game between Leverkusen and Hoffenheim seems interesting to bet on because we expect to see Hoffenheim lose in this match because of the better performance we saw from Leverkusen. Also, Leverkusen was unbeaten in many games in the last season and even in this season their performance was not that bad to lose the chance to win this game.
They are now going to play against Hoffenheim and considering the chance of Leverkusen in this game, I think the 1.53 seems good safe for this match.
  
You are right I think Leverkusen will still be the favorite by bookmakers for the Bundesliga match especially since their opponent is not a tough club and last season Leverkusen was able to sweep all the defeats in one season their worst result last season was only a draw. But in this match I am sure Leverkusen will try their best to win because they have lost points in the previous match so Xabi Alonso does not want to repeat that mistake again and will make his club perform optimally, betting on Leverkusen's victory is the right choice but I also include other bets to get bigger odds in the match of the top clubs as below I get odds @4.01
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I don't see much chance for Leverkusen to win the title this season. This team did great last season and they went undefeated to win the local league title but this season is definitely tough for them. Bayern Munich have played two matches so far this season where they have earned full points in both matches. Leverkusen, on the other hand, have played two matches but lost one, meaning they are currently 3 points behind Bayern Munich. If we compare the performance of Leverkusen with Dortmund then we must put Bayern Munich ahead in the performance of the first two matches because they have not lost any of the two matches, they have won one match and they have drawn one match.

Leipzig is a good team, even Real Madrid had a hard time playing with them, so they are quite capable of beating Bayer. There is a lot of debate about how successful Bayer can be this season, but I would prefer to wait a few more rounds and see what they can achieve and whether they will lose more points. I think Bayern is strong enough to become champions, in fact they were strong enough last season, but the conflicts between the players and Tuchel made it impossible. Now it seems that everything is more or less in order, so Kompany has a very good chance to make Bayern champions.
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But if anyone is saying that Brussia Dortmund is better than Bayer Leverkusen such a person is absolutely not making a wrong claims. The only arguments you guys are making here in favour of Bayer Leverkusen is their last season's unbeaten campaign which culminated to their winning the Bundlesliga title  whereas Brussia Dortmund has consistently been in a top outstanding form in all seasons for the past one decade both in the Bundlesliga and champions league competition's.  

For this current season we don't know for sure how far Bayer Leverkusen will go in maintaining their performance especially in the champions league and even in the Bundesliga but am quite sure that Brussia Dortmund as usual will make it far than Xabi Alonso and his boys this time in all competition's.
I don't see much chance for Leverkusen to win the title this season. This team did great last season and they went undefeated to win the local league title but this season is definitely tough for them. Bayern Munich have played two matches so far this season where they have earned full points in both matches. Leverkusen, on the other hand, have played two matches but lost one, meaning they are currently 3 points behind Bayern Munich. If we compare the performance of Leverkusen with Dortmund then we must put Bayern Munich ahead in the performance of the first two matches because they have not lost any of the two matches, they have won one match and they have drawn one match.

Whether Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga title is not possible so quickly. Bayern Munich have won their first two matches. However, Munich's performance in the first match against Wolfsburg was not good. Several weaknesses in Munich's squad are still quite visible. Leverkusen, on the other hand, lost against Leipzig. However, the teams have barely played two matches each. There is still a long journey ahead. Therefore, it is not yet possible to say for sure which team will be the Bundesliga champions.

I think if Kompany's target is just to dominate the Bundesliga then maybe Munich can win the Bundesliga title. However, if the KOmpany tries to dominate the Champions League and Bundesliga at the same time, it will be difficult for Munich to maintain the consistency of good performances.
When talking of the German bundesliga, I also share the same sentiment as you bro, we are still in the early days of the season, and it's just two matches played, we haven't seen the best and the worst of all this top teams, I believe that by December the picture will be much more clearer, and by then the real competitors might have emerge, but as for now, am seeing a little bit of promises from this Bayern Munich side, even though they are not at their best, but their is much more improvement from the way they were last season, then as Bayern Leverkusen,  though they have lost a game this season but that doesn't define if they are going to be challenging for the title or not, so by December hopefully, the picture will be much clearer.

Then as for your last paragraph, I believe that if Bayern Munich are actually good, they can compete on both front, I mean the German bundesliga and the uefa champions league, because they aren't new to such a situation, they have been able to compete on both front while dominating the German bundesliga over the years, so their is nothing new about it.
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Wolfsburg against Frankfurt will be also very interesting game.
Yep, both teams got the same result at the beginning of this season. On paper Wolfsburg should be able to beat Frankfurt because according to H2H Wolfsburg can always find Frankfurt weaknesses. But in the upcoming match both teams have a very small difference in odds because Wolfsburg lost several key players who were injured.
So the bookmakers give odds that are not much different. Wolfsburg odds @2.65 and Frankfurt @2.55

I avoid this match because I don't want to get a surprise from both teams that could destroy my betting slip.
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Dortmund is not a team to actually rely on as you said. Sometimes, it’s even better to rely on them in European competitions that relying and trusting them in the Bundesliga matches, they’ll just disappoint you and make you not to have trust in them again. Dortmund are full of surprises but you hardly see one coming especially when you need them the most. I have stopped given hope to teams like that, when they do the surprise, I just flow with them and if they don’t it’s still fine by me since I’m not expecting anything.
I don't even take them seriously during European competitions because they can't be trusted to deliver. In European competition, you get to play against the best from other clubs and if you find it hard to perform well in your domestic league, what's the assurance that you'd excel in these other tournaments?
Actually, if they want to be serious, they are very capable of competing in the local league or in European competitions, unfortunately they cannot be serious in doing so, as seen from how they form a team that always sells its valuable players. I even believe they will be very strong in Europe if they do something like Bayern Munich, for example, who always buys star players. They don't have to buy star players because they can create them, it's just that they prioritize the profits they can get by selling those players. It is very natural for us to judge that they will not be able to compete tightly with their behavior that is still like that.
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But if anyone is saying that Brussia Dortmund is better than Bayer Leverkusen such a person is absolutely not making a wrong claims. The only arguments you guys are making here in favour of Bayer Leverkusen is their last season's unbeaten campaign which culminated to their winning the Bundlesliga title  whereas Brussia Dortmund has consistently been in a top outstanding form in all seasons for the past one decade both in the Bundlesliga and champions league competition's.  

For this current season we don't know for sure how far Bayer Leverkusen will go in maintaining their performance especially in the champions league and even in the Bundesliga but am quite sure that Brussia Dortmund as usual will make it far than Xabi Alonso and his boys this time in all competition's.
I don't see much chance for Leverkusen to win the title this season. This team did great last season and they went undefeated to win the local league title but this season is definitely tough for them. Bayern Munich have played two matches so far this season where they have earned full points in both matches. Leverkusen, on the other hand, have played two matches but lost one, meaning they are currently 3 points behind Bayern Munich. If we compare the performance of Leverkusen with Dortmund then we must put Bayern Munich ahead in the performance of the first two matches because they have not lost any of the two matches, they have won one match and they have drawn one match.

Whether Leverkusen will win the Bundesliga title is not possible so quickly. Bayern Munich have won their first two matches. However, Munich's performance in the first match against Wolfsburg was not good. Several weaknesses in Munich's squad are still quite visible. Leverkusen, on the other hand, lost against Leipzig. However, the teams have barely played two matches each. There is still a long journey ahead. Therefore, it is not yet possible to say for sure which team will be the Bundesliga champions.

I think if Kompany's target is just to dominate the Bundesliga then maybe Munich can win the Bundesliga title. However, if the KOmpany tries to dominate the Champions League and Bundesliga at the same time, it will be difficult for Munich to maintain the consistency of good performances.
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Dortmund is not a team to actually rely on as you said. Sometimes, it’s even better to rely on them in European competitions that relying and trusting them in the Bundesliga matches, they’ll just disappoint you and make you not to have trust in them again. Dortmund are full of surprises but you hardly see one coming especially when you need them the most. I have stopped given hope to teams like that, when they do the surprise, I just flow with them and if they don’t it’s still fine by me since I’m not expecting anything.
I don't even take them seriously during European competitions because they can't be trusted to deliver. In European competition, you get to play against the best from other clubs and if you find it hard to perform well in your domestic league, what's the assurance that you'd excel in these other tournaments?
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Despite their failure in the final and the sale of some of their key players Dortmund are indeed in a troubled period. A change in manager has also contributed to this challenge with Nuri Sahin now overseeing the team’s operations. On-song, they have not been attaining early season form but it is still premature to write them off. But with some modifications being made and with some encouragement, there might still be a way that they could move up the ranks of the league. It may take some time before the results are fully realized and therefore, the patient should be given some time before the verdict is passed.
Nuri Sahin was indeed doubted because he did not have sufficient experience, but whatever it is, Dortmund has always been a team that cannot be underestimated even though they have made many changes.
To be able to become a fierce competitor in the Bundesliga title race may be very difficult, but at least Dortmund will still be able to compete to stay in the top 4.
The Bundesliga is now a more competitive competition because not only Borussia Dortmund and Bayern are competing like in previous seasons, but the increase in several other teams has made the competition even fiercer.
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I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
Borrusia Dortmund compromise their chances previous season when they met Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final, their actions was fierce but not enough to take down Real Madrid. Dortmund have trigger the sell clause for most of their talented players and this is no such welcoming idea for the club. Forward to current, Edin Terzic lost his job and the new boss, Nuri Sahin is hired for managerial role and expects him to deliver the job for which he was assigned. Borrusia Dortmund stats this season, 1W 1D 0L. Based on my statistical data, Borrusia Dortmund will push for greater heights on the league table this season. Not too early to start laying complaints.


Despite their failure in the final and the sale of some of their key players Dortmund are indeed in a troubled period. A change in manager has also contributed to this challenge with Nuri Sahin now overseeing the team’s operations. On-song, they have not been attaining early season form but it is still premature to write them off. But with some modifications being made and with some encouragement, there might still be a way that they could move up the ranks of the league. It may take some time before the results are fully realized and therefore, the patient should be given some time before the verdict is passed.
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But if anyone is saying that Brussia Dortmund is better than Bayer Leverkusen such a person is absolutely not making a wrong claims. The only arguments you guys are making here in favour of Bayer Leverkusen is their last season's unbeaten campaign which culminated to their winning the Bundlesliga title  whereas Brussia Dortmund has consistently been in a top outstanding form in all seasons for the past one decade both in the Bundlesliga and champions league competition's.  

For this current season we don't know for sure how far Bayer Leverkusen will go in maintaining their performance especially in the champions league and even in the Bundesliga but am quite sure that Brussia Dortmund as usual will make it far than Xabi Alonso and his boys this time in all competition's.
I don't see much chance for Leverkusen to win the title this season. This team did great last season and they went undefeated to win the local league title but this season is definitely tough for them. Bayern Munich have played two matches so far this season where they have earned full points in both matches. Leverkusen, on the other hand, have played two matches but lost one, meaning they are currently 3 points behind Bayern Munich. If we compare the performance of Leverkusen with Dortmund then we must put Bayern Munich ahead in the performance of the first two matches because they have not lost any of the two matches, they have won one match and they have drawn one match.
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Dortmund vs Heidenheim is the stronger of the two teams, they had a great performance last season. However, Heidenheim have been the best performers in the current new season, and they are currently top of the points table with two wins from their opening matches. If Heidenheim can follow up their performances, then they will surely be in a good position by the end of the season. Dortmund's win against Heidenheim could be a surprise in this match, but it seems certain as the game will be played at their home ground. Moreover, the 1x2 odds between the two teams dictates Dortmund's win and most people will bet on Dortmund's side.
I do not think Heidenheim good start means they will do well all season. Dortmund has more experience and stronger team which will help them in long run. Playing at home also helps Dortmund. They usually win at home with over 70% of their last 20 home games ending in win. Heidenheim on other hand does not do as well away from home only winning 30% of their away games. Even though Heidenheim is doing well now we need to look at whole picture and remember that Dortmund is stronger team. This means Dortmund will probably win when they play at home.
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I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
Borrusia Dortmund compromise their chances previous season when they met Real Madrid in the UEFA Champions League final, their actions was fierce but not enough to take down Real Madrid. Dortmund have trigger the sell clause for most of their talented players and this is no such welcoming idea for the club. Forward to current, Edin Terzic lost his job and the new boss, Nuri Sahin is hired for managerial role and expects him to deliver the job for which he was assigned. Borrusia Dortmund stats this season, 1W 1D 0L. Based on my statistical data, Borrusia Dortmund will push for greater heights on the league table this season. Not too early to start laying complaints.

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Dortmund vs Heidenheim is the stronger of the two teams, they had a great performance last season. However, Heidenheim have been the best performers in the current new season, and they are currently top of the points table with two wins from their opening matches. If Heidenheim can follow up their performances, then they will surely be in a good position by the end of the season. Dortmund's win against Heidenheim could be a surprise in this match, but it seems certain as the game will be played at their home ground. Moreover, the 1x2 odds between the two teams dictates Dortmund's win and most people will bet on Dortmund's side.
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And even some platforms also have their own predictions where it is different. So, if I personally, I still prefer Leverkusen if to bet. But I prefer to be safe, just watch first, without betting on this match.  Grin
You are right maybe just watching the match is safer for a difficult match to predict like this, but if you want to bet it is better to see how the two clubs play who among them is more dominant in attacking then you can bet in the middle of the time.
Because after all this involves money for betting. And I am not the type of person who bets on high risks.  Grin
Be safe by not betting in this match is better for me, and maybe for people who are not really sure with this. Prefer and better to choose other play match that we may have higher chance to be sure in one club.

I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.
I actually want Dortmund to win, but aren't some of their players injured? including their striker who is also injured and will miss the match against Hedenheim later?
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Our bet are the same. I think dortmund will have no problem to beat heidenheim.

I know you're worrying about Dortmund's chance to beat Heidenheim. But i must emphasize that if Heidenheim was getting 6 points from beating the weak clubs. It's not gonna be a hard game for Dortmund to beat Heidenheim.

The problem with betting on Dortmund is that they can lose to a strong or weak club with equal success. So it doesn't really matter how good Heidenheim is, what matters is what day Dortmund will have.
Overall, the bet looks OK, but I don't like it when the overall odds are so small with a relatively large number of outcomes. I'm thinking about taking one game (either Bayern or Bayer) with a handicap of -1.
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I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

I agree with you about how Dortmund have been operating since they lost that opportunity of winning the league title on that final day of the season, I think that was 2 seasons ago, they have been on my bad book of teams that are very good at disappointing gamblers. Although this season the only thing they are good at is giving up to 3 goals in a game, with their opponent being Heidenheim I don't still see any reason to give them a straight win and we should be careful with the bigger teams this week because we have the craziest champions league games so some of the bigger clubs might fail to even score more goals or win a game rather they choose to settle for a draw just to be ready for the UCL games ahead.
In this encounter between Dortmund vs Heidenheim, I don't mind if Heidenheim is a newly promoted side, I have the feeling that it will be both team score game and this option (BTS) will happen in some of the games involving the bigger clubs around Europe.
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I really don't trust Dortmund to deliver and get three points because they are not a team that can be relied upon. Teams that you'd naturally beat as a big team will end up surprising you and although Heidenheim are a newly promoted side, they have been dishing out better than average results in their previous games.
 If I were to add it in my games, I'd take a safee option of either 1.5 or 2.5 since giving Dortmund a straight win can be tricky.

This is a game I will advice against adding it to one’s list of stake this weekend. This Dortmund team has been the most inconsistent club ever, thy have the most chances to have won the league but they end up not winning it at the dead end. Heidenheim has been an excellent promoted team since last season and they have interestingly continued with same form which is just like the way other newly promoted clubs who later cement their position in the top flight league and continue there. So this game to me currently doesn’t have a favourite and it is a big risk to wager into this game with this very close odds although Dortmund at home is their advantage
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