Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 158.

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Quote from: Luzin on October 12, 2024, 07:20:08 AM

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Bayer hasn't shown the same dominance as last year, but they are still in the leading group and haven't lost their chances to defend the title. You don't think Leipzig will become champions, do you? Probably Bayern? But Bayern has only scored 2 points in 3 serious games (Bayer, Aston Villa, Eintracht). If they have problems in games with strong opponents, then perhaps they will change places with Bayer.

Those 3 matches are quite difficult. Eintracht and Leverkusen are not easy teams to beat. Even if Leipzing met them, it might also be difficult. The league is a lot of matches there will always be surprises, those who are able to get maximum points and perform steadily they will certainly be the champions. Until this week, only Munich and Leipzig have never lost. Their points are also the same so, a defeat or a draw will make them shift. Even Eintrach could have displaced Bayern and Leipzig.

If you went back 5 years and said that Eintracht and Bayer were "not easy opponents" for Bayern, you would simply be laughed at. And I agree that these are not easy opponents for the current Bayern, my point is that this is why the intrigue in the Bundesliga is more relevant than ever and Bayern is far from killing it (although at the beginning of the season it seemed otherwise).

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Quote from: Slow death on October 13, 2024, 12:13:01 PM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 13, 2024, 06:05:27 AM

Six games left behind and I see a wounded Dortmund already. Sad

I want to understand their situation on one hand though. Because Nuri Şahin isn't very experienced yet and he is in an adaptation process here. I can only say that maybe it wouldn't take him more than half a season to do so. I hope... 12 goals scored and 11 conceded is just quite bad statistics which pushed them down to the 7th position for now.

Defense has always been a problem for this team though. They somehow work it out in the Champions League. But not in the Bundesliga... Do you think they would finish out of top four?

Honestly, I doubt very much that Dortmund won't be able to finish in one of the 4 positions, I say this because they always end up being lucky enough to get a place in the European Champions League and Eintracht Frankfurt won't be able to stay in their current position until the end of the league, currently Eintracht Frankfurt has played 6 games, but has only scored in 9 games, which shows that they don't have a very strong attack, it's true that in some games they score a lot of goals, but they have shown a strong defense. But they are a team that can start to decline in performance and that's why I don't see Eintracht Frankfurt finishing in one of the 4 positions, I see Dortmund having that luck.

With the increasing strength of several teams at once, this season it seems that Dortmund will have difficulty finishing in the top four so that they will have difficulty securing a ticket to the Champions League. Last season they were indeed very lucky to reach the Champions League final, and the change in the match format has benefited them through the addition of the Bundesliga quota. It is not a good idea to expect that kind of luck to come again, Dortmund must try to rise and create their own luck while there is still a chance.

The Bundesliga has only been running for 6 matches, and there are still 28 matches ahead to collect points that can take them to the top four of the standings. This is a big challenge for Nuri Sahin in his first season, especially since they have lost experienced players such as Marco Reus and Mats Hummels. Eintracht Frankfurt, Freiburg and Union Berlin who are currently in a better position, do have the potential to make it difficult for Dortmund to reach the Champions League zone. However, in many ways, Dortmund is still more trustworthy.

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Quote from: Farma on October 12, 2024, 09:32:11 PM

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I think Bayern Munich will win the championship this year. Bayer Leverkusen is less consistent than last year and they did not play well in the Bayern match. They followed the match from behind and did not show much presence, but they are still lucky to get a point. It is true that they are one of the favorite teams in the German league, but I think Bayern will be champions this year too.

Maybe for the champion candidate yes, but if we look at the Bundesliga competition this season it is not about Bayer Leverkusen and also Munich but Frankfurt and also Leipzigh are also present to color the Bundesliga more intensely of course Frankfurt is my candidate this season they are quite good with the attackers they have and also a good defense there, Munich and also Leverkusen look not so stable even though they score a lot of goals in every match but sometimes they complain because they are difficult to penetrate, but I see Frankfurt who is quite aggressive compared to them this season.

But talking about it all about the champion the journey is still long, and I want to assess how strong Leverkusen and Frankfurt are who will play next week, both have different playing styles and I am sure this week will be an interesting match between them to get 3 full points

All of them are also candidates for the championship, although Bayern Munich is showing its strength again, but we need to realize that everything looks the same in terms of ability, a draw against Bayer Leverkusen with statistics like that is indeed an optimistic wind for Bayer Leverkusen but the result is still the same, As you also said that when faced with the same enemy that made Leverkusen get a draw, it can also be said that Bayer Munich does not have much difference with other teams, I think we need to look outside to see who might win, talking about championship candidates, all of them are also candidates because the league is still very long.

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Quote from: len01 on October 13, 2024, 11:46:53 AM

Like last season Munich failed because Tuchel was unable to rotate players perfectly and now they have a new coach who is able to bring Munich much more consistently. On the one hand, something like this is common because every season there will always be an increase in the team or even a decrease in performance in the top teams.

It's not too difficult for a club like Bayern Munich to get back on track as the strongest and most consistent team. They have a qualified squad and are very experienced, coach Kompany just needs to maintain the relationship with the players. Because from what I observed when Tuchel became Bayern Munich coach, he often did not get along with players. So if you can't maintain a good relationship then in the field the players will be difficult to manage. Tuchel did not get respect from the players who were finally fired. Well the same thing applies to kompany.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 13, 2024, 06:05:27 AM

Six games left behind and I see a wounded Dortmund already. Sad

I want to understand their situation on one hand though. Because Nuri Şahin isn't very experienced yet and he is in an adaptation process here. I can only say that maybe it wouldn't take him more than half a season to do so. I hope... 12 goals scored and 11 conceded is just quite bad statistics which pushed them down to the 7th position for now.

Defense has always been a problem for this team though. They somehow work it out in the Champions League. But not in the Bundesliga... Do you think they would finish out of top four?

Honestly, I doubt very much that Dortmund won't be able to finish in one of the 4 positions, I say this because they always end up being lucky enough to get a place in the European Champions League and Eintracht Frankfurt won't be able to stay in their current position until the end of the league, currently Eintracht Frankfurt has played 6 games, but has only scored in 9 games, which shows that they don't have a very strong attack, it's true that in some games they score a lot of goals, but they have shown a strong defense. But they are a team that can start to decline in performance and that's why I don't see Eintracht Frankfurt finishing in one of the 4 positions, I see Dortmund having that luck.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on October 13, 2024, 01:23:35 AM

At the beginning of this season it was already apparent that Leverkusen was not as strong as last season and indeed what Leverkusen experienced was like other teams that had made surprises in general so I am not surprised that they are not as strong as last season anymore now.
Xabi Alonso even though he did not make many changes to the Leverkusen squad this season but they looked struggling in the first few matches and that was a sign that they were not strong anymore and I am pessimistic about Leverkusen this season and I think they will not be able to defend their title.

They still have a very long time to go from now and the season is not even halfway yet that we can make some early conclusions on how far they can go this season. Bayern Leverkusen aren’t really playing like they did last season but so far from the start of the season, we can’t say their performance is very poor that they can’t be able to win anything this season or not been able to defend their Bundesliga title. They have shown some vigorous strength this season so far and the match against Bayern Munich was a sign of their strength of restiveness and to defend their title also. We just have to wait for a while before we can begin this type of discussion of them making it to the top of the Bundesliga title by end of the season. I still have a lot of hope on Bayern Leverkusen and they’ve not shown any sign of weakness to make me feel otherwise for them for not being able to win the Bundesliga title.

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Quote from: len01 on October 12, 2024, 10:30:12 AM

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Of course it can. Just look at Leverkusen currently having an inconsistent defense unlike last season. Currently Leverkusen has conceded 12 goals and it is very easy for Frankfurt to score at least 1 goal.
With that, it seems like this match will be easier to predict to bet on BTTS as the best choice because both teams have advantages and currently I have not seen the odds but it will definitely be smaller than usual.

Previously you said your prediction could end in a draw, but it also seems to have the option to bet on BTTS as the best choice. unfortunately the odds are not ideal for me, the bookie gives odds with @1.58. but not a bad choice, if you are sure that both teams can score goals. if you look at the total Asian option, Over 3 goals with @1.59. so, the option of both teams scoring goals is more ideal than the total Asian. as well as the handicap option, it is too risky to choose Leverkusen. but if you are sure you have a prediction that this match has the potential to end in a draw, then choosing a handicap on Frankfurt gives a fairly good result. +1 Frankfurt with odds @2.27. if you want to be safer, +1.5 with odds @1.76. well, will you still bet on BTTS. for me, it is not much different if you choose Leverkusen with 1×2 odds @1.44 Leverkusen. this match still has a week to go, you can consider it if it involves betting. I am also interested in betting on this match, but it is not yet time to decide on a betting choice.

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Quote from: Lafu on October 13, 2024, 11:30:13 AM

I dont know if Manuel Neuer will add another two years after this season ,for sure he is very good at his age.
When he is on the way to decide to retire there will and are be some offers to make his way in the Club or into the managment from Bayern Munich.
A very nice option and good goalkeeper who would be fit into that team wil be Frankfurts Kaua Santos as he is good and young.
But i guess they are already have there eyes on some good Goalkeepers.

Neuer has always been an important player for Bayern, but age does not spare anyone, this season he has already made some serious mistakes, because of which Bayern suffered defeats, as it happened in the match against Aston Villa. I know that Bayern aims to keep Neuer in the team, I would not expect anything else, but I do not expect them to offer him a big contract, given his age it could be a contract for one year with the possibility of extension.

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Quote from: len01 on October 13, 2024, 11:46:53 AM

As I said last season when Alonso managed to bring Leverkusen to break Munich dominance, I doubt Leverkusen this season. It doesn't mean I underestimate them, but big teams like Munich will definitely recover soon after the problems that caused the failure have been resolved. Like last season Munich failed because Tuchel was unable to rotate players perfectly and now they have a new coach who is able to bring Munich much more consistently. On the one hand, something like this is common because every season there will always be an increase in the team or even a decrease in performance in the top teams.

I have the same thought since last season because Leverkusen's performance dropped towards the end of last season, but I was expecting Alonso to bring in new players to strengthen the team before the beginning of new season since they will also be playing in the Champions League, but they didn't sign more quality players because they trust their players, but they forget that Bayern Munich and Dortmund that are big teams will surely recover after a bad season because they are two main teams that dominated the Bundesliga for long.

Bayern Munich's performance has started to drop even though they maintain their unbeaten in the Bundesliga, but I still believe that they wull lift the Bundesliga title this season because Dortmund, Leverkusen, Frankfurt, and others can't be an obstacle for them this season because Vincent Kompany has signed enough players to give the team good squad depth.

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Quote from: barisbilgili on October 13, 2024, 01:23:35 AM

At the beginning of this season it was already apparent that Leverkusen was not as strong as last season and indeed what Leverkusen experienced was like other teams that had made surprises in general so I am not surprised that they are not as strong as last season anymore now.
Xabi Alonso even though he did not make many changes to the Leverkusen squad this season but they looked struggling in the first few matches and that was a sign that they were not strong anymore and I am pessimistic about Leverkusen this season and I think they will not be able to defend their title.

As I said last season when Alonso managed to bring Leverkusen to break Munich dominance, I doubt Leverkusen this season. It doesn't mean I underestimate them, but big teams like Munich will definitely recover soon after the problems that caused the failure have been resolved. Like last season Munich failed because Tuchel was unable to rotate players perfectly and now they have a new coach who is able to bring Munich much more consistently. On the one hand, something like this is common because every season there will always be an increase in the team or even a decrease in performance in the top teams.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 13, 2024, 06:05:27 AM

Six games left behind and I see a wounded Dortmund already. Sad

I want to understand their situation on one hand though. Because Nuri Şahin isn't very experienced yet and he is in an adaptation process here. I can only say that maybe it wouldn't take him more than half a season to do so. I hope... 12 goals scored and 11 conceded is just quite bad statistics which pushed them down to the 7th position for now.

Defense has always been a problem for this team though. They somehow work it out in the Champions League. But not in the Bundesliga... Do you think they would finish out of top four?

I think it's quite funny when people still doubt Dortmund to be able to finish in the top four, they are doubting Dortmund just by the results that look bad so far this season in the Bundesliga standings with 11 conceded. When in reality, Bayer Leverkusen have also 12 conceded and also, third-placed Eintracht Frankfurt have also 9 conceded. Thus, I think there is nothing to doubt about Dortmund because after all, the league is still long and there are still many opportunities for Dortmund to improve and improve its position and I am very confident, that Dortmund will still manage to finish in the top four.

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Quote from: bering on October 13, 2024, 08:26:05 AM

Bayern Munich has starting to look for the replacement of Manuel Neuer this because the current age of Manuel Neuer is 38 years old so probably for next 1 or 2 year potentially he would be retired so that's why this winter Bayern Munich has starting to thinking to find young goalkeeper and it says Brighton goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen has into their radar and possibly this january Bayern Munich will be bid for him

Its very important they do that now so by the time Manuel Neuer is retiring they will not be in a very tight position and have to hurriedly start scouting the market for a replacement, he's age is already far gone, and the goal keeper is a vital and very important position for the team as they need, Brighton's keeper is who is a very young one can actually be a good replacement as he's also very skilled and his performance so far has been really a god one that can better replace the keeper at Bayern when he eventually leaves.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on October 13, 2024, 10:12:30 AM

Manuel Neuer's current age is 38 years old, usually it won't be long before a player of that age decides to retire, I think he will last at least 2 more seasons for Bayern Munich and decide to retire from the player. This will be another job for Bayern Munich, I mean they have to prepare a suitable replacement to be able to play under the crossbar to replace Manuel Neuer's role.
I personally haven't heard of their interest in any player, maybe I haven't looked further. But I think they will also be young players so they can use them for a very long time. Because a goalkeeper will last a long time and is always a mainstay when he performs well.

I dont know if Manuel Neuer will add another two years after this season ,for sure he is very good at his age.
When he is on the way to decide to retire there will and are be some offers to make his way in the Club or into the managment from Bayern Munich.
A very nice option and good goalkeeper who would be fit into that team wil be Frankfurts Kaua Santos as he is good and young.
But i guess they are already have there eyes on some good Goalkeepers.

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Quote from: khiholangkang on October 13, 2024, 09:30:16 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on October 13, 2024, 06:05:27 AM

Six games left behind and I see a wounded Dortmund already. Sad

I want to understand their situation on one hand though. Because Nuri Şahin isn't very experienced yet and he is in an adaptation process here. I can only say that maybe it wouldn't take him more than half a season to do so. I hope... 12 goals scored and 11 conceded is just quite bad statistics which pushed them down to the 7th position for now.

Defense has always been a problem for this team though. They somehow work it out in the Champions League. But not in the Bundesliga... Do you think they would finish out of top four?

Dortmun is still in the process of adapting to his coach, it will take quite a long time, but if Nuri Sahin succeeds in better than the previous coach Dortmund has a strong enough potential to compete, because they are a team that is very consistent from season to season and becomes heavy competitors in The League Bundes, they only need to learn to improve slowly because their features grow more than them, both from Kompany and Xabi Alonso's troops, they, and maybe for fans are expected to be patient with the current dortmund situation.

So far Dortmund performance in the Champions League is still quite consistent in achieving victories, but in the Bundesliga we can't expect them to play better at the moment and I think player injuries also greatly affect their inconsistent performance, currently, they are in 7th position with 10 points from 6 games and their attack line and defense line are just as bad at the moment with 11 goals conceded and only 12 goals scored, I think that with the bring some defensive players who were quite good last summer will improve their defensive line, but in fact at this time the fragile defense still is the main problem that must be immediately overcome by Nuri Sain, to be honest for now Dortmund's hopes of competing in the UCL and Bundesliga are very unlikely because indeed Nuri Sahin is not a coach who is quite qualified in handling big teams at this time, so indeed, if he can't improve his defense and find consistency in the game, of course, sooner or later they will be eliminated from the championship path of both UCL and Bundesliga.

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Quote from: Dewi Aries on October 13, 2024, 06:37:57 AM

Of course, with one defeat and two draws it has shown that they are not as strong as last season, because after all as we saw that last season they went through a season without losing at all so that is what now leads us to the assumption that Leverkusen's current season is not as strong as last season, but on the other hand I can't say that they have decreased in terms of performance but other clubs have increased in terms of performance because as usual when the season is over then usually most teams make changes, meaning I'm pretty sure that it seems like Xabi Alonso didn't make any changes to his team. But of course even though Leverkusen started the season quite disappointingly I don't think that can be used as a benchmark to draw a conclusion that at the end of the season Leverkusen will fail to defend their title, there is always the possibility for them to make changes in the middle of the season or even at the end of the season.

Yes, Leverkusen were indeed unbeaten throughout the previous season, they only got 6 draws throughout the season and came out as champions with 90 points in the Bundesliga. But the past will not give the same results in the present, it is difficult for that. And however in this season they have only played 6 matches and only lost once, that cannot be an indication that they cannot defend the title, and what will xabi alonso do as head coach with the current situation in his team whether to maintain the ammunition that is currently available or add in the upcoming transfer market because as I see now they have problems in defense of course this is very worrying when the busy schedule they are going through new energy is needed. Let's just wait until the second half or near the end of the Bundesliga season where their position is at that time to make sure everything

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on October 13, 2024, 09:10:43 AM

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Manuel Neuer have been a great goalkeeper for Bayern Munich and one of the greatest goalkeepers of his generation but even when football fans across the globe will want to continue to see the former Germany international continue to grace our screens, I know that a day like this will come when he'll be replaced because of inactiveness. For Neuer to retire from international I think is a proof that he's fast approaching his last days as a professional footballer. If the management of Bayern Munich thinks that Brighton goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen will be a good replacement for Neuer, then I think they're making the right decision.

Munich actually still has Sven Ulreich to fill the position in the main squad if Manuel Neuer finally has to retire. If you want to bring in Bart Verbruggen from Brighton, it's not a bad move. But he's still young and of course, there will be competition to fill a place in the Munich squad. His improvement will not ensure he gets playing minutes in Munich.
If not, Munich may have to look for a goalkeeper who may be more senior and experienced who is ready to move. Or Munich may think long-term about the young goalkeeper.

Manuel Neuer's current age is 38 years old, usually it won't be long before a player of that age decides to retire, I think he will last at least 2 more seasons for Bayern Munich and decide to retire from the player. This will be another job for Bayern Munich, I mean they have to prepare a suitable replacement to be able to play under the crossbar to replace Manuel Neuer's role.
I personally haven't heard of their interest in any player, maybe I haven't looked further. But I think they will also be young players so they can use them for a very long time. Because a goalkeeper will last a long time and is always a mainstay when he performs well.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 13, 2024, 08:57:59 AM

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Bayern Munich has starting to look for the replacement of Manuel Neuer this because the current age of Manuel Neuer is 38 years old so probably for next 1 or 2 year potentially he would be retired so that's why this winter Bayern Munich has starting to thinking to find young goalkeeper and it says Brighton goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen has into their radar and possibly this january Bayern Munich will be bid for him

Actually Brighton will not hold Bart Verbruggen which mean if there is any good offer which come to them then Brighton are willing to considering those offers and Bart Verbruggen has 22 million of market price and i think this is decent price considering Bart Verbruggen is still 22 years old and i am not surprised if Bart Verbruggen targetting by big clubs because at his age he can became an Brighton main goalkeeper and Koeman also trust Bart Verbruggen to playing for Netherlands

Manuel Neuer have been a great goalkeeper for Bayern Munich and one of the greatest goalkeepers of his generation but even when football fans across the globe will want to continue to see the former Germany international continue to grace our screens, I know that a day like this will come when he'll be replaced because of inactiveness. For Neuer to retire from international I think is a proof that he's fast approaching his last days as a professional footballer. If the management of Bayern Munich thinks that Brighton goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen will be a good replacement for Neuer, then I think they're making the right decision.

By retiring from international football, Manuel Neuer wants to focus on extending his time at Bayern Munich during a difficult period for the club. However, at 38 years old. I think the big leagues are no longer suitable for him. Manuel Neuer should look for small leagues, for example, the Saudi Pro League. As for Bayern, they are closely monitoring Verbruggen - who has a contract with Brighton until 2028. However, they could also be interested in Cologne's Jonas Urbig, who has just over two years left on his contract.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on October 13, 2024, 06:05:27 AM

Six games left behind and I see a wounded Dortmund already. Sad

I want to understand their situation on one hand though. Because Nuri Şahin isn't very experienced yet and he is in an adaptation process here. I can only say that maybe it wouldn't take him more than half a season to do so. I hope... 12 goals scored and 11 conceded is just quite bad statistics which pushed them down to the 7th position for now.

Defense has always been a problem for this team though. They somehow work it out in the Champions League. But not in the Bundesliga... Do you think they would finish out of top four?

Dortmun is still in the process of adapting to his coach, it will take quite a long time, but if Nuri Sahin succeeds in better than the previous coach Dortmund has a strong enough potential to compete, because they are a team that is very consistent from season to season and becomes heavy competitors in The League Bundes, they only need to learn to improve slowly because their features grow more than them, both from Kompany and Xabi Alonso's troops, they, and maybe for fans are expected to be patient with the current dortmund situation.

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Quote from: bering on October 13, 2024, 08:26:05 AM

Bayern Munich has starting to look for the replacement of Manuel Neuer this because the current age of Manuel Neuer is 38 years old so probably for next 1 or 2 year potentially he would be retired so that's why this winter Bayern Munich has starting to thinking to find young goalkeeper and it says Brighton goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen has into their radar and possibly this january Bayern Munich will be bid for him

Actually Brighton will not hold Bart Verbruggen which mean if there is any good offer which come to them then Brighton are willing to considering those offers and Bart Verbruggen has 22 million of market price and i think this is decent price considering Bart Verbruggen is still 22 years old and i am not surprised if Bart Verbruggen targetting by big clubs because at his age he can became an Brighton main goalkeeper and Koeman also trust Bart Verbruggen to playing for Netherlands

This is the right step taken by Bayern Munich, so far they have not had a successor to Manuel Neuer.
And the target for Bart Verbruggen who is still 22 years old is of course very good, especially since Bart Verbruggen is a very qualified young goalkeeper, so I really agree with the plan made by Bayern Management.

It is not easy to recruit Bart Verbruggen because he is the main goalkeeper in the Brighton team, but Bart Verbruggen also thinks about his career to be even better and of course there is a desire from Bart Verbruggen to be able to be in a much bigger team.

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Quote from: Docnaster on October 13, 2024, 08:57:59 AM

Manuel Neuer have been a great goalkeeper for Bayern Munich and one of the greatest goalkeepers of his generation but even when football fans across the globe will want to continue to see the former Germany international continue to grace our screens, I know that a day like this will come when he'll be replaced because of inactiveness. For Neuer to retire from international I think is a proof that he's fast approaching his last days as a professional footballer. If the management of Bayern Munich thinks that Brighton goalkeeper Bart Verbruggen will be a good replacement for Neuer, then I think they're making the right decision.

Munich actually still has Sven Ulreich to fill the position in the main squad if Manuel Neuer finally has to retire. If you want to bring in Bart Verbruggen from Brighton, it's not a bad move. But he's still young and of course, there will be competition to fill a place in the Munich squad. His improvement will not ensure he gets playing minutes in Munich.
If not, Munich may have to look for a goalkeeper who may be more senior and experienced who is ready to move. Or Munich may think long-term about the young goalkeeper.

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