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Quote from: blackened515 on May 26, 2022, 11:13:16 AM

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It was a really unfortunate situation for Hamburg. They lost the second leg by 0-2 home which prevented them from promoting to the Bundesliga. I still am surprised about this because I was waiting for a stronger performance than this. But Hamburg were just terrible in the first half. Maybe they started fixing their problems in the other half but it was still not quite enough to make it to the Bundesliga. I believed that Hamburg deserved this league more than Hertha Berlin considering the recent performances in their leagues especially.

Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

To be honest I had my doubts about Hamburger but I had my trust in them more than Hertha. I say that I had my doubts about Hamburger because they were playing against an opponent that has played in the Bundesliga five times consistently. So I believe it was obviously hard for Hamburger to win against Hertha. But the type of performance that Hamburger showed and also that type of performance that Hertha showed, I honestly thought Hamburger might have a good chance. And they actually played well in the first leg but that was not enough.

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The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

Exactly and yes you are right on that.
We have seen that this season from Stuttgart also lucky they managed to stay in the first German League.
Its always hard for Teams that coming from the second league into the first , even it was only a year.
Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep them into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

It is obviously a lot harder in the Bundesliga compared to the second Bundesliga. There is obviously a lot of change in the competition. And it is hard for the teams that get promoted to the Bundesliga to cope up with the situation. On another note, we can understand how the competition is different from the top of the Bundesliga to the bottom. There are teams that find it hard to stay after getting promoted and meanwhile we have Bayern Munich which takes the trophies almost every year.

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Quote from: Lafu on May 26, 2022, 11:47:30 AM

Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 26, 2022, 04:54:38 AM

The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

Exactly and yes you are right on that.
We have seen that this season from Stuttgart also lucky they managed to stay in the first German League.
Its always hard for Teams that coming from the second league into the first , even it was only a year.
Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep the into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

Exactly for Schalke will learn more how they failed last two years on Bundesliga and drop to Bundesliga 2, financial crisis make Schalke drop to Bundesliga 2 and this season success comeback to Bundesliga and try how to be competitive reach top position standing or try keep stay on Bundesliga for next season. I think if Schalke have get financial easy keep stay amd reach top standing position, but if failed get new player on window transfer have possibility back to Bundesliga 2 for next season.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 26, 2022, 04:54:38 AM

The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

Exactly and yes you are right on that.
We have seen that this season from Stuttgart also lucky they managed to stay in the first German League.
Its always hard for Teams that coming from the second league into the first , even it was only a year.
Schalke and Bremen will dont have it easy and they have to work hard on it to keep them into the first league next season.
New players are mostly needed .

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on May 25, 2022, 02:45:01 PM

It was a really unfortunate situation for Hamburg. They lost the second leg by 0-2 home which prevented them from promoting to the Bundesliga. I still am surprised about this because I was waiting for a stronger performance than this. But Hamburg were just terrible in the first half. Maybe they started fixing their problems in the other half but it was still not quite enough to make it to the Bundesliga. I believed that Hamburg deserved this league more than Hertha Berlin considering the recent performances in their leagues especially.

Frankly speaking, I was expecting Hamburg to play in the Bundesliga next season. They indeed deserve to get the promotion, because their performance in the Bundesliga 2 was decent and commendable. Although, they ended at the 3rd place, but conceded the lowest goals in the Bundesliga 2 last season. Unfortunately for them, they couldn't withstand Hertha Berlin in the second leg. Despite winning the first leg of the Relegation play off. However, congratulations to Hertha Berlin.

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Anyway, every team that only plays defensively in the second leg after winning in the first leg, mostly when the team implements such a strategy will end up losing. Of course, such a final result is very unfortunate for Hamburg itself, because it failed to compete again in the Bundesliga next season. Whereas Hamburg this season they have a pretty good defense, because if we look at their statistics at least we will get a record where Hamburg is the team that has conceded the fewest goals. With these achievements I think Hamburg deserves to be back in the Bundesliga next season but yes, they failed in the second leg which made them have to fight again in the 2. Bundesliga next season.

Hamburg will really need to try their best the next season, if they want to come back to the Bundesliga 1st Division, in this game I really think that they have the advantage but I think Hertha BSC had pulled a mind game over Hamburger SV, but I don't really want to say that they lose the 1st leg on purpose but that is just my speculation, they have lost the 1st leg so Hamburg SV could lower their guard down, or underestimated Hertha on the 2nd leg, and because Hertha just needs to win 1 leg to pretty much stay on the Bundesliga, well a good tactic but if Hamburger SV really is hungry for a victory they will not let their guard down at all cost and win that game, Well let's just move on on what happen with the game, and hope they do great in the next season,

Quote from: mia_houston on May 25, 2022, 04:02:52 AM

Now we have got 2 teams that will be participating in the bundesliga next season, schalke and bremen have confirmed their place to replace Bielefield and Furth in the bundesliga after successfully becoming the leader in the bundesliga 2 this season, while third place, hertha berlin managed to maintain an aggregate winning in the match Final play off against Hamburger, Hertha Berlin journey to survive in the Bundesliga is indeed quite extraordinary this season, after the defeat in the 1st leg of the play-off, Hertha Berlin managed to beat Hamburger with a score of 2-0 in leg 2 while ensuring they stay in the Bundesliga next season.

The question is are they up for the challenge in the 1st Bundesliga, last season if I am not wrong Schalke and Bremen were in the 1st division and failed to keep up with the other teams, so they have fallen down to the 2nd Division this time but I think they would need to fill in the gap on some players or they will need players that even though not the level of Lewandowski of Haaland, can particularly keep up to the expectation to survive the 1st Division next season,

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Quote from: el kaka22 on May 26, 2022, 01:49:44 AM

I am not sure if these two teams will provide anything big. The teams that go from bundesliga 2 to bundesliga 1 usually end up at around mid table and that would be the best they will do for a while. There is a reason why they dropped and there is a reason why they won't be good and they are the same reasons. When a team is not managed properly, it is usually quite normal for people to not find anything decent in those teams because it is rare for them to do better.

I guess that management will do the same mistakes, the team will not be getting richer and not going to find amazing players and we are going to end up with them being bad in a few seasons again.

The two teams that have been promoted this season have a long history in the Bundesliga and they have made many achievements in the previous Bundesliga, we cannot deny that Schalke and Bremen have had their golden years in the Bundesliga, I have high expectations this season if both teams, especially Schalke, can provide a lot of competition in the main bundesliga next season, but I quite applaud schalke who still have a great mentality and it's proven they are only one season in bundesliga 2 and now they are back up to the highest caste of the german league.

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I am not sure if these two teams will provide anything big. The teams that go from bundesliga 2 to bundesliga 1 usually end up at around mid table and that would be the best they will do for a while. There is a reason why they dropped and there is a reason why they won't be good and they are the same reasons. When a team is not managed properly, it is usually quite normal for people to not find anything decent in those teams because it is rare for them to do better.

I guess that management will do the same mistakes, the team will not be getting richer and not going to find amazing players and we are going to end up with them being bad in a few seasons again.

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Quote from: izsara on May 25, 2022, 05:47:07 PM

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It was a really unfortunate situation for Hamburg. They lost the second leg by 0-2 home which prevented them from promoting to the Bundesliga. I still am surprised about this because I was waiting for a stronger performance than this. But Hamburg were just terrible in the first half. Maybe they started fixing their problems in the other half but it was still not quite enough to make it to the Bundesliga. I believed that Hamburg deserved this league more than Hertha Berlin considering the recent performances in their leagues especially.

They are too confident in this which makes this not go well for them. Indeed, things like this are quite natural because the bookies' bets have completely shifted for them, but on the other hand this has drowned them.
They underestimated Hertha here with the results of the previous meeting they were sure they could win but in fact they lost by their own arrogance which made this not good for them and had to fail in the playoffs

The truth is that in this game I underestimated Herta a lot, Hamburger SV had great confidence in them, but they disappointed me, the truth is I don't know what happened to them, in my opinion I think they were nervous and came out very afraid to play and I think Was that a mistake, because they all looked weird, they didn't even have control of the ball or was Herta really so well planted in the game that they made them look very bad, so bad that it almost seemed as if they were left in ridiculous, it should be noted that I lost a bet, which I don't even want to remember anymore, but I know that many also lost their bets, that's why I've always said that in soccer anything can happen.

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Quote from: ILuckyGuyI on May 25, 2022, 02:45:01 PM

It was a really unfortunate situation for Hamburg. They lost the second leg by 0-2 home which prevented them from promoting to the Bundesliga. I still am surprised about this because I was waiting for a stronger performance than this. But Hamburg were just terrible in the first half. Maybe they started fixing their problems in the other half but it was still not quite enough to make it to the Bundesliga. I believed that Hamburg deserved this league more than Hertha Berlin considering the recent performances in their leagues especially.

They are too confident in this which makes this not go well for them. Indeed, things like this are quite natural because the bookies' bets have completely shifted for them, but on the other hand this has drowned them.
They underestimated Hertha here with the results of the previous meeting they were sure they could win but in fact they lost by their own arrogance which made this not good for them and had to fail in the playoffs

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Quote from: Jackl87 on May 25, 2022, 03:23:14 PM

Also Wolfsburg had quite a weird season. They started extremely well under Mark van Bommel and even where at the top of the Bundesliga table for a few matchdays but then they lost many games in a row before van Bommel was fired. Then Kohlfeldt came and he also had a great start as Wolfsburg was successful again in both the Champions League and in the Bundesliga too, but then after a few games they started a losing streak again. Pretty weird.

I have not followed the reasons, but often the problem is not the coach but everything around him. There are difficulties from the management, there is too much pressure or the coach and the players just don't get along. But it is easier to get rid of the coach than the structures within the club.

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In principle, it makes little difference who the coach of Bayern Munich is. When you have a team like Bayern, you always become champions. I think you would still be champion even without a trainer. The difference with the numbers 2 and below is huge. Bayern is also the only team that really belongs to the big teams in Europe. Dortmund must make their way back into the competition. And catch the departure of Haaland.

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Nico Kovac and Andre Breitenreiter are two coaches I did not expect at all. But they are good decisions. And at Wolfsburg, I see a great season with Nico Kovac. I think a coach like him will give Woflsburg the necessary boost and they will definitely be playing for the international places in the table next season.

Wolfburg made alot of errors in the season that just ended. a lot of their performance were not impressive at all, it has always been had for them to defeat their rival instead they would hope for a draw. But looking at their performance towards the end of the season they played an impressive football Nico Kovac is good for them but why not try Julians Nagelsmann next season to see how Wolfsburg tatics of play would look like.

You do know that Julian Nagelsmann is the coach of Bayern Munich since the beginning of the last season? So there is no chance that he would consider leaving Bayern Munich for Wolfsburg. Also Wolfsburg had quite a weird season. They started extremely well under Mark van Bommel and even where at the top of the Bundesliga table for a few matchdays but then they lost many games in a row before van Bommel was fired. Then Kohlfeldt came and he also had a great start as Wolfsburg was successful again in both the Champions League and in the Bundesliga too, but then after a few games they started a losing streak again. Pretty weird.

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Nico Kovac and Andre Breitenreiter are two coaches I did not expect at all. But they are good decisions. And at Wolfsburg, I see a great season with Nico Kovac. I think a coach like him will give Woflsburg the necessary boost and they will definitely be playing for the international places in the table next season.

Wolfburg made alot of errors in the season that just ended. a lot of their performance were not impressive at all, it has always been had for them to defeat their rival instead they would hope for a draw. But looking at their performance towards the end of the season they played an impressive football Nico Kovac is good for them but why not try Julians Nagelsmann next season to see how Wolfsburg tatics of play would look like.

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It was a really unfortunate situation for Hamburg. They lost the second leg by 0-2 home which prevented them from promoting to the Bundesliga. I still am surprised about this because I was waiting for a stronger performance than this. But Hamburg were just terrible in the first half. Maybe they started fixing their problems in the other half but it was still not quite enough to make it to the Bundesliga. I believed that Hamburg deserved this league more than Hertha Berlin considering the recent performances in their leagues especially.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on May 25, 2022, 11:42:44 AM

New team promotion to Bundesliga as experience team have active long time ad exist with Bundesliga before relegation, actually for Schalke not get terrible and one season only with Bundesliga 2 before promoting to Bundesliga with the winner of Bundesliga 2 label. For Werder Bremen need several years back to Bundesliga actually as experience team and success make several star player from Mesut Ozil until Cluadio Pizzaro ever as danger forward on Bundesliga. Not lucky with Hamburger SV because eliminated by Hertha Berlin on play off round although almost success get promoting ticket with first leg winning.

but in this case in the new season I expect a lot from these two teams.
These are the 2 clubs that often caught my eye when I was young and now they are restarting their journey in the Bundesliga with a new start and new hope as well.

For Hamburger it's a pity and at first I was so sure of them but indeed the 2nd leg a few days ago Hertha played quite well which made my hopes dashed

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Quote from: mia_houston on May 25, 2022, 04:02:52 AM

Now we have got 2 teams that will be participating in the bundesliga next season, schalke and bremen have confirmed their place to replace Bielefield and Furth in the bundesliga after successfully becoming the leader in the bundesliga 2 this season, while third place, hertha berlin managed to maintain an aggregate winning in the match Final play off against Hamburger, Hertha Berlin journey to survive in the Bundesliga is indeed quite extraordinary this season, after the defeat in the 1st leg of the play-off, Hertha Berlin managed to beat Hamburger with a score of 2-0 in leg 2 while ensuring they stay in the Bundesliga next season.

New team promotion to Bundesliga as experience team have active long time ad exist with Bundesliga before relegation, actually for Schalke not get terrible and one season only with Bundesliga 2 before promoting to Bundesliga with the winner of Bundesliga 2 label. For Werder Bremen need several years back to Bundesliga actually as experience team and success make several star player from Mesut Ozil until Cluadio Pizzaro ever as danger forward on Bundesliga. Not lucky with Hamburger SV because eliminated by Hertha Berlin on play off round although almost success get promoting ticket with first leg winning.

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on May 24, 2022, 03:11:08 AM

Hamburger SV VS Hertha BSC - LOST

And the Hertha BSC is staying in the Bundesliga and what a game it was, never expected that other players of Hertha BSC got the fashion and hunger to win this game, and both teams will be staying with their status intact, that was really an unpredictable game right there every team can win but apparently, Hertha just have the mindset in doing it,

Now the opening season for the Bundesliga will be on 5 August 2022, and in addition, Schalke 04 and Werder Bremen will likely play in the 1st division while Arminia and Furth will be downgrade to the 2nd Division.

What happened here I am so disappointed now. because indeed in any case I feel that Hamburger is superior but indeed they are not playing well here.
on the other hand Hertha were absolutely outstanding and it was this comeback that saved them from death that kept them in the Bundesliga.
this is quite detrimental for the bet I made

Now we have got 2 teams that will be participating in the bundesliga next season, schalke and bremen have confirmed their place to replace Bielefield and Furth in the bundesliga after successfully becoming the leader in the bundesliga 2 this season, while third place, hertha berlin managed to maintain an aggregate winning in the match Final play off against Hamburger, Hertha Berlin journey to survive in the Bundesliga is indeed quite extraordinary this season, after the defeat in the 1st leg of the play-off, Hertha Berlin managed to beat Hamburger with a score of 2-0 in leg 2 while ensuring they stay in the Bundesliga next season.

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I'm quite frustrated after seeing that Hamburg lost the rematch against Hertha Berlin by 2-0. I trusted Hamburg and bet on their win for this game. Because their performance in the first leg was very promising for the Bundesliga. It was like they were going to promote to this league certainly. But Hertha Berlin showed a really good performance in the rematch and won by 2-0. This win helped them stay in the Bundesliga for at least one more year. I really don't know how Hamburg's effort dropped this high in this game. They wasted a big chance.

Hamburg lost to Hertha Berlin 2 nil. The game was really an interesting one but hamburg losing to Hertha is still a shock to me. I never for one day expected Hamburg to lose because they are superior over Hertha Berlin which is really struggling to win games. The multiple goals scored was really deserve to be scored because hamburg players were just making fallible mistakes and even the free kick that resulted into goal, that mistakes is from the goal keeper. How on Earth will some high and experience goal keeper won't punch that ball out of the post. Nevertheless, Hertha Berlin camed out victorious over hamburg.

This result was unexpected for me. I thought Hamburger Sv would win. Hamburger's performance was better than Hertha's. However, they lost only because of lack of experience. I watched the match. I saw that Hamburger did not attack in the first half. They thought they would win by playing defensively. This was their first mistake. They made several attacks in the second half but could not score a goal.

I also think it was Hamburg fault that they tried to win by playing defensively.In 99% of the cases you end up as a losing team by such behavior well except if your coach is Mourinho which knows better than anyone to park the bus.When you try to change things around during the second half it is extremely difficult to do so especially if you are lacking in attack like Hamburg was in that game.Hertha deserved more to stay for another year in the Bundesliga.

Anyway, every team that only plays defensively in the second leg after winning in the first leg, mostly when the team implements such a strategy will end up losing. Of course, such a final result is very unfortunate for Hamburg itself, because it failed to compete again in the Bundesliga next season. Whereas Hamburg this season they have a pretty good defense, because if we look at their statistics at least we will get a record where Hamburg is the team that has conceded the fewest goals. With these achievements I think Hamburg deserves to be back in the Bundesliga next season but yes, they failed in the second leg which made them have to fight again in the 2. Bundesliga next season.

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I'm quite frustrated after seeing that Hamburg lost the rematch against Hertha Berlin by 2-0. I trusted Hamburg and bet on their win for this game. Because their performance in the first leg was very promising for the Bundesliga. It was like they were going to promote to this league certainly. But Hertha Berlin showed a really good performance in the rematch and won by 2-0. This win helped them stay in the Bundesliga for at least one more year. I really don't know how Hamburg's effort dropped this high in this game. They wasted a big chance.

Hamburg lost to Hertha Berlin 2 nil. The game was really an interesting one but hamburg losing to Hertha is still a shock to me. I never for one day expected Hamburg to lose because they are superior over Hertha Berlin which is really struggling to win games. The multiple goals scored was really deserve to be scored because hamburg players were just making fallible mistakes and even the free kick that resulted into goal, that mistakes is from the goal keeper. How on Earth will some high and experience goal keeper won't punch that ball out of the post. Nevertheless, Hertha Berlin camed out victorious over hamburg.

This result was unexpected for me. I thought Hamburger Sv would win. Hamburger's performance was better than Hertha's. However, they lost only because of lack of experience. I watched the match. I saw that Hamburger did not attack in the first half. They thought they would win by playing defensively. This was their first mistake. They made several attacks in the second half but could not score a goal.

I also think it was Hamburg fault that they tried to win by playing defensively.In 99% of the cases you end up as a losing team by such behavior well except if your coach is Mourinho which knows better than anyone to park the bus.When you try to change things around during the second half it is extremely difficult to do so especially if you are lacking in attack like Hamburg was in that game.Hertha deserved more to stay for another year in the Bundesliga.

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