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I have never seen Sadio Mane playing the main striker role. And he is not able to score a lot of goals and assists. If Nagelsmann wants to use Mane to score a lot of goals then I'd say it's foolish of him. Nagelsmann should either change his match tactics or look for a new striker. Otherwise, Bayern Munich's performance will not improve.

I 100% agreed, Nagelsmann should use Sadio Mane more effectively by giving him a more comfortable role in the team, if they don't have a main role striker then leave it be because watching Sadio Mane plays he is more versatile in making plays assisting his team with good passes but surely he is not used in receiving them, although he can surely play that role aswell, for me, he is more effective assisting the team, while Robert Lewandowski is good at receiving and make difficult strikes near the goal, Sadio Mane is not like that,


As far as I'm concerned, Nagelsmann was not accused of being a bad coach while Robert Lewandowski was a member of the team. After Lewandowski left the club, this rumor of him being sacked only grew stronger and stronger. There seems to be a connection to be made here, so I think we are on the right track.

It is indisputably true that Lewandowski was their best player and their main scoring machine, and he was the man behind it all. The fact that he has left, even though Bayern has bought Mane, does not make him a lethal striker like Lewa was. As a result, I think changing the coach would not mean anything if they are not able to sign a striker who is effective.

I surely agree but even though Bayern Munich is not effective in the Bundesliga they are doing well in the UEFA Championship League, in fact, they are currently at the top of Group C with 2 wins, 0 draws, and 0 losses, I think if this keeps up they can not have a championship for the club, but in term of the Bundesliga championship that will be the problem I don't know if Nagelsmann is focusing more with the UEFA Championship but maybe he's got a plan with the Bundesliga aswell they surely just needs time to prepare,

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I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.
Bundesliga is one of the boring leagues compared with La Liga, EPL, Serie A, and others. There are only a few clubs that are big clubs. However the doinance of Bayern Munich is very high. But this is different this season why Bayern may not be able to fs more on the Bundesliga. Because they commonly will lose the match every time. And the position of Bayern right now is really not dominating. They are only in the top 5. It is funny right? because a giant club of Bundesliga can only be in the top  5, but they seem like being enjoyable in the standing  Grin
Bayern will continually dominate as long as other clubs in the bundles liga keeps playing business with their clubs. Bayern spends so much on signing new players every season and the do this with the interest of winning both the Bundles Liga title as well as the CL. Its is a long standing position for Bayern until the likes of Dortmund steps up their game
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Bundesliga is one of the boring leagues compared with La Liga, EPL, Serie A, and others. There are only a few clubs that are big clubs. However the doinance of Bayern Munich is very high. But this is different this season why Bayern may not be able to fs more on the Bundesliga. Because they commonly will lose the match every time. And the position of Bayern right now is really not dominating. They are only in the top 5. It is funny right? because a giant club of Bundesliga can only be in the top  5, but they seem like being enjoyable in the standing  Grin
For this season, the Bundesliga is no longer boring with several teams starting to show their good performances at the beginning of this season where Bayern Munich, which used to dominate the Bundesliga, has started to decline in consistency. Although that is not the end of Bayern Munich at this point because Bayern Munich still has time to perform well and occupy the top of the Bundesliga standings. But Bayern Munich actually have to fight first to win some games and also beat opponents who are already in the top position at this time.

We are tired of watching Bayern Munich dominate every season in the Bundesliga. Before the start of the season, we were sure that Bayern Munich would win the Champions League title. But this season teams like Union Berlin, Dortmund, and Freiburg are doing well. At the same time, Bayern Munich's performance has been somewhat weak. Bayern Munich is now the fifth team on the table. And they are 5 points behind Union Berlin. So it is likely that we will see the Union Berlin team at the top of the points table for several more weeks. Bayern Munich will try their best to finish top of the table. But since their attacking performance is a bit weak now, it is a bit difficult for Bayern to achieve the top spot in the table.
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Bundesliga is one of the boring leagues compared with La Liga, EPL, Serie A, and others. There are only a few clubs that are big clubs. However the doinance of Bayern Munich is very high. But this is different this season why Bayern may not be able to fs more on the Bundesliga. Because they commonly will lose the match every time. And the position of Bayern right now is really not dominating. They are only in the top 5. It is funny right? because a giant club of Bundesliga can only be in the top  5, but they seem like being enjoyable in the standing  Grin
For this season, the Bundesliga is no longer boring with several teams starting to show their good performances at the beginning of this season where Bayern Munich, which used to dominate the Bundesliga, has started to decline in consistency. Although that is not the end of Bayern Munich at this point because Bayern Munich still has time to perform well and occupy the top of the Bundesliga standings. But Bayern Munich actually have to fight first to win some games and also beat opponents who are already in the top position at this time.
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, Bayern will be the leader and will gradually increase its advantage over everyone.

Yeah that's classic Bayern  Cheesy.

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Will anyone bet on Bayern in the next round or should we wait for the result of the game with Barcelona to begin with?  Grin

I think it should be interesting to see what lineup Nagelsmann chooses. The game against Barcelona is not an easy one either so I expect Nagelsmann to go out with best. Their game in Bundesliga against Augsburg isn't a difficult one so I expect them to pick up the pace from hereon as they already have dropped points in 3 matches in a row.

I will say make bets after watching lineup. One won't get good value betting on Augsburg vs Bayern so if anyone is betting on goals market then better watch the lineup is what I would say.  Regarding their CL, game I am in for Barca as there is lot of pressure on Bayern as both CL and their league game is crucial and while the bookie might favour Bayern here but I think Barca has an equal shot here so I think if I would bet than I would go for Barca just with a likely low bet and enjoy the match.

For me, between Bayern and Barcelona I will always prefer Bayern, for me they have a better line-up, better players and above all their attitude is something that I like more, when Bayern loses I don't care, I will still support them, even more so when be against Barcelona, for me Bayern was not the champion of the UCL because they trusted and paid dearly for it, so in this area nobody can be wrong or have any kind of doubt, in the UCL there are only the best, there is no right to have some flaws, that's why I say, this year it is very likely that Bayern can reach the final, for me the final will be Bayern and Real Madrid.


I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.
Bundesliga is one of the boring leagues compared with La Liga, EPL, Serie A, and others. There are only a few clubs that are big clubs. However the doinance of Bayern Munich is very high. But this is different this season why Bayern may not be able to fs more on the Bundesliga. Because they commonly will lose the match every time. And the position of Bayern right now is really not dominating. They are only in the top 5. It is funny right? because a giant club of Bundesliga can only be in the top  5, but they seem like being enjoyable in the standing  Grin
It is undeniable that the interest for the Bundesliga is actually very small when compared to Serie A and the EPL considering that the title of the farmers' league is still attached to them and we can also know who the champion is even before the season starts.
But now it's interesting because even for the last 10 seasons I forgot when Bayern were in the position they are in now considering in the previous season they always dominated even from the start of the season.

If eventually the Bundesliga is a league that does not have much fame, but nevertheless it is incredible, but I think that the 2nd Bundesliga has much more excitement, some say and affirm that Serie A, EPL, is more exciting and famous, but they also forget to some very important leagues such as the Espalos and the French League, but I think a league is much more famous when there are famous players in it, and in the French League there are only one team with top-level world stars and special candidates for that they can become champions of their countries in the QATAR cup, so for now I would not say that this league would be below, I think that after the World Cup everything will take a big turn.
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To tell the truth, the Bundesliga has started to be more interesting these days rather than being boring. Because at least for now, we don't see a huge Bayern Munich domination in the league. They are struggling too much for many weeks and the other teams are trying to benefit from this nicely. As long as Bayern Munich don't sign a striker these problems wouldn't be gone magically for them either.

Union Berlin are the leader now which is quite unexpected. Dortmund are also doing very well despite losing Haaland but I'm not sure about their consistency throughout the season.
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I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.
Bundesliga is one of the boring leagues compared with La Liga, EPL, Serie A, and others. There are only a few clubs that are big clubs. However the doinance of Bayern Munich is very high. But this is different this season why Bayern may not be able to fs more on the Bundesliga. Because they commonly will lose the match every time. And the position of Bayern right now is really not dominating. They are only in the top 5. It is funny right? because a giant club of Bundesliga can only be in the top  5, but they seem like being enjoyable in the standing  Grin
It is undeniable that the interest for the Bundesliga is actually very small when compared to Serie A and the EPL considering that the title of the farmers' league is still attached to them and we can also know who the champion is even before the season starts.
But now it's interesting because even for the last 10 seasons I forgot when Bayern were in the position they are in now considering in the previous season they always dominated even from the start of the season.
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Actually Bayern Munich were quite productive at the beginning of the season. So this made me think that they wouldn't have big problems in the league at least. But suddenly they started to have scoring problems here as well. In their last four matches they barely scored more than one goal in only one match. First we thought that it was because of caring about the Champions League more. But I believe this is too much. They are also aware of the serious problem they are having. They can't go on like this for a long time in the Champions League also. Maybe they would get past the group stage easily but the next stages would be much more difficult.
At the moment Bayern are not in a good condition, they are very good in form and ball possession but in terms of goal productivity they are not so good now given the absence of a suitable targetman and Mane is often combing the field rather than being a target.
They need new innovation now, relying on Mane and Sane at the moment is not very profitable for them. Nagelsmann must be racking his brains now because otherwise I could probably say it's going to get worse.
I feel like they will eventually find a way, look at Klopp and how he never truly had a proper striker and still found a way to score and have wins, he didn't had mbappehaal and lewandowskibenzema type of players, those are true strikers and that's understandable but at the same time you could build a system that is without them and you could still score.

Bayern was too used to having one, so they are having trouble but Mane could help the team see how they could play without a proper striker and still win games. It's not going to take long neither, before the end of the first half of the season they are going to look like the great team they always are.

even if the person wants to be optimistic, the reality on the ground is showing how things are going from bad to worse, the problem is not just with mane, I think the problem is with the coach, he is the one who must define a formation that suit all players and produce results, in case the team needs a player with certain characteristics, it is the coach who comes to that conclusion and chooses the appropriate players who meet these requirements, by which I mean that the coach of bayern when he chose mane He should have also chosen other attackers who would combine with Mane to produce good results, and if that didn't happen then the fault lies with the coach. the solution at this point would be for the coach to try different strategies if it doesn't work then buy more players the next time the market opens and if that doesn't work then they will have to fire the coach

Bundesliga is one of the boring leagues compared with La Liga, EPL, Serie A, and others.

honestly i only watch the game of bayern, i prefer to watch the summary of the games of the other bundesliga teams and i make bets, but i can't watch the game of other bundesliga teams, i tried it once but i thought they were boring games, but i like to watch the matches of all premier league, Serie A and la liga games
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I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.
Bundesliga is one of the boring leagues compared with La Liga, EPL, Serie A, and others. There are only a few clubs that are big clubs. However the doinance of Bayern Munich is very high. But this is different this season why Bayern may not be able to fs more on the Bundesliga. Because they commonly will lose the match every time. And the position of Bayern right now is really not dominating. They are only in the top 5. It is funny right? because a giant club of Bundesliga can only be in the top  5, but they seem like being enjoyable in the standing  Grin
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Despite that I complain, but deep down me, I don't want Bayer to win this season's Bundesliga title. Let the streak end.
I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.
Yeah i do like that if any clubs can be very competitive and any surprise can happen with it. bayern's domination seems to be ended started from this season. Juventus was also getting the same problem too. That makes the competition in bundesliga become even stricter caused by the team who always dominate the comptition for 10 years was not doing so well for this season.
Another club like union and dortmund have more chance to win the bundesliga rather than bayern. We will have a new winner for this competition. I do believe union will become a winner at the end of season.
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Seems like enough people want Bayern's dominance to end, because it must be admitted that the Bundesliga becomes unattractive if the winner is always Bayern, at least it's been 10 years since Bayern have dominated the Bundesliga. It will be interesting if this season there are other teams who can win the Bundesliga trophy, hopefully that will happen. But I have a little doubt that a team like Union Berlin can win the Bundesliga this season, as well as Dortmund, usually they will experience a decline in performance near the middle of the season and finally give Bayern an opportunity to return to the top position. Even though Bayern's performance is bad at the moment, Bayern are still a great team, and they will definitely try to bounce back. Moreover, compared to other Bundesliga teams, Bayern does have much better quality players. So it seems difficult to expect Bayern to fail this season to win the Bundesliga trophy again.
Well, in principle, it is quite expected that fans of other teams would like their favorite teams to finally take away the title from Bayern Munich. Another question is that the current leadership of the Union in the Bundesliga is not due to such a huge advantage of the club, but because of the problems of Bayern Munich itself. Because despite all the respect for the opponents, the composition, the budget of Bavaria is an order of magnitude higher and as far as I know that although the club's management verbally expresses support for Julian Nagelsman, there is information that in case of a loss after the break for the matches of the national teams, organizational withdrawals will follow. And the most likely candidate for replacement is the figure of Tuchel, who is now free.
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Despite that I complain, but deep down me, I don't want Bayer to win this season's Bundesliga title. Let the streak end.
I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.

Seems like enough people want Bayern's dominance to end, because it must be admitted that the Bundesliga becomes unattractive if the winner is
always Bayern, at least it's been 10 years since Bayern have dominated the Bundesliga. It will be interesting if this season there are other teams who
can win the Bundesliga trophy, hopefully that will happen. But I have a little doubt that a team like Union Berlin can win the Bundesliga this season,
as well as Dortmund, usually they will experience a decline in performance near the middle of the season and finally give Bayern an opportunity to
return to the top position. Even though Bayern's performance is bad at the moment, Bayern are still a great team, and they will definitely try to
bounce back. Moreover, compared to other Bundesliga teams, Bayern does have much better quality players. So it seems difficult to expect Bayern
to fail this season to win the Bundesliga trophy again.
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I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.

The reason why the winning streak of Juventus in the Serie A ended was because they have pretty high debts now of around 400 Million € because of covid and of course also because of mismanagement. That is why they had to sell players and can not buy really good new players. This made it possible for other Italian clubs to overtake Juventus.
This situation will not repeat itself in Germany though, at least not because of financials. Bayern Munich is still one of the healthiest clubs, if not the most healthiest in terms of financials in Europe. They bought great new players this season and sitll have more than 100 M€ laying around in the bank.
So the other German teams need to be beat a Bayern Team that has a very good squad and i doubt that Bayern will continue to miss that many great chances to score. They are not playing that badly, they are just to inefficient at the moment, but i am pretty sure this will change quickly.
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my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.
They have to spend Extra money for this player.
Apart from his contract which is still quite long, Kane is also now starting to recover the form he lost last season so I think Conte will hold on to this hard.
But if you look at Bayern's current condition, it's clear they need a new striker. At the moment Bayern's condition is not very good although I really like things like this but it's clear the top brass will find new ways to get their performance back to their original shape and of course new strikers are needed to maintain their current hegemony.

They won't be able to get new strikers until the winter, during the transfer window. As much as they are giving up their positions now, but so far so good, except for the striker position. The only hope now is that they just make it to this transfer window and not fall even lower in the table. It's been a long time since I've seen Bayern this low...
I think that people know about that a bit surprised that there are some people are expecting bayern to get a new striker even when the transfer season already close. peoople must aware if this time bayern can't do something about that.
It can only use the resources that owned by the team. Buying striker will be only wasting the money when the player that already bought can't play caused by it's not on the transfer season.

Well, then Bayern has nothing to do but "tolerate the current state of affairs. In the end maybe the monopoly (I would call it that) in the German league will finally end and someone else will take the championship title. To be honest I have absolutely no interest in this league because of the fact that Bayern has won the championship for 10 years in a row
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Despite that I complain, but deep down me, I don't want Bayer to win this season's Bundesliga title. Let the streak end.
I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.
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if you want to have the same strength/level in the striker, as was the case with Robert Lewandowski, you can't solve that with a 19 year old player (Jamal Musiala) or with Mane (who is actually not a real striker).
you need to hire a world-class striker who can score goals immediately (see E. Haaland at man city or R. Lewandowski now at barcelona).

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Jamal Musiala needs time because he is still very young and obviously experience is still very much needed for these young players. As for Mane, I think the same because he is actually not very suitable to be placed in the target man because obviously he is a player with high cruising range and his function is to mess up the opponent's defense so Bayern need someone who can be a targetman like Lewandowski has done before.
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To be honest in this case Nagelsmann is still good enough for a coach but the scheme he plays is always the same and it is clear when he has met many times and has experienced this the other team will get a glimmer of hope because his scheme has been read and it has been proven in the last few matches.
If indeed he still wants to be at Bayern he obviously needs more effort in this regard because otherwise the word "failed coach" will be repeated and he will have to leave even before his contract expires.
If he can make Bayern win the Bundesliga last season,means he still is a good coach who just needs to change tactics from the present one he uses,if the one he uses currently is no longer working,he also needs to check what the problem really is and how to address it.One Quality of a good coach is the ability to change formation,tactics and method of play, if the former is becoming easy for your opponents to access.Changing tactics will enable them play in a way that the opponents will find it difficult to read.He should still be giving more time to change formations and see whether it would work for him or not.
The problem now is trust, we know with the current conditions it is clear that the trust in Nagelsmann has decreased a bit whether it is from club officials or fans so that he cannot sit quietly now.
It would be great if he could change tactics, but at the moment it is a bit difficult because while they are still like this it is clear that stories like Tuchel or Tedesco will repeat themselves in Nagelsmann.
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Actually Bayern Munich were quite productive at the beginning of the season. So this made me think that they wouldn't have big problems in the league at least. But suddenly they started to have scoring problems here as well. In their last four matches they barely scored more than one goal in only one match. First we thought that it was because of caring about the Champions League more. But I believe this is too much. They are also aware of the serious problem they are having. They can't go on like this for a long time in the Champions League also. Maybe they would get past the group stage easily but the next stages would be much more difficult.
At the moment Bayern are not in a good condition, they are very good in form and ball possession but in terms of goal productivity they are not so good now given the absence of a suitable targetman and Mane is often combing the field rather than being a target.
They need new innovation now, relying on Mane and Sane at the moment is not very profitable for them. Nagelsmann must be racking his brains now because otherwise I could probably say it's going to get worse.
I feel like they will eventually find a way, look at Klopp and how he never truly had a proper striker and still found a way to score and have wins, he didn't had mbappehaal and lewandowskibenzema type of players, those are true strikers and that's understandable but at the same time you could build a system that is without them and you could still score.

Bayern was too used to having one, so they are having trouble but Mane could help the team see how they could play without a proper striker and still win games. It's not going to take long neither, before the end of the first half of the season they are going to look like the great team they always are.
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To be honest in this case Nagelsmann is still good enough for a coach but the scheme he plays is always the same and it is clear when he has met many times and has experienced this the other team will get a glimmer of hope because his scheme has been read and it has been proven in the last few matches.
If indeed he still wants to be at Bayern he obviously needs more effort in this regard because otherwise the word "failed coach" will be repeated and he will have to leave even before his contract expires.
He surely is a good coach, but if his play tactics don't work anymore then he surely needs to change it and let the team play at their own position that they are used to playing, you can not force Sadio Mane into a position that he is not very familiar with, it works on the 1st game, then why isn't working on the later games, I think Nagelsmann is questioning Sadio Mane this, but Sadio Mane has a tendency that he of making mistakes when he is not very familiar with his plays,

As far as I'm concerned, Nagelsmann was not accused of being a bad coach while Robert Lewandowski was a member of the team. After Lewandowski left the club, this rumor of him being sacked only grew stronger and stronger. There seems to be a connection to be made here, so I think we are on the right track.

It is indisputably true that Lewandowski was their best player and their main scoring machine, and he was the man behind it all. The fact that he has left, even though Bayern has bought Mane, does not make him a lethal striker like Lewa was. As a result, I think changing the coach would not mean anything if they are not able to sign a striker who is effective.
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Bayern Munich's current condition is really worrying. Honestly I'd like to see a different team winning the Bundesliga title finally after a ten-year break.  Grin  But it is still very interesting to see them in this shape of course. They are having big difficulties in even the games against much weaker teams in the league. For example most of us waited for them to put an end to their streak with point losses. But they couldn't even defeat Augsburg and lost that one.

The poor performance of Bayern Munich didn't come to me as a shock, I saw it coming and I was saying the Bayern isn't that super human team.they used to be, but I was disregarded. But it is fine as it has played out for everyone to  notice.
There is enough time and opportunity for Bayern to get it right on the long run but for now let us enjoy seeing them as an ordinary club. Despite that I complain, but deep down me, I don't want Bayer to win this season's Bundesliga title. Let the streak end.

I really think that they have superstar team they only played a few bad games and everyone thinks they are done for. You will all see in a couple of weeks that they will be back on top of the league. Their style is so attacking their only problem is that they just cannot score lately and that will come when they pick up their form
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