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Quote from: cygan on September 23, 2022, 01:51:50 PM

my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

Bayern can try all they want but I don't think he is gonna come. Remember Kane is a player that City also tried for with over 100m bid and still Spurs denied because they believe Kane as their crucial man and this was when Spurs were having their hard days - near to when Mourinho was sacked. With Conte now making things turn to good for Spurs I think it is very hard for Bayern to bring Kane as they have to convince both the club and the player. Answer is Club won't accept it first as they consider Kane as their crucial player and player won't accept because he has been playing for that club for quite long and I don't think he will say yes to an offer where he has to adjust outside of England.

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Quote from: cygan on September 23, 2022, 01:51:50 PM

my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

But will Tottenham Hotspur be willing to let Harry Kane go? I don't think so, because Harry Kane is one of the key players for Tottenham. Yes, Tottenham will not easily let Harry Kane go, because they themselves have yet to find a replacement for Harry Kane. If that happens it will disrupt the stability of Tottenham itself. Because now they are playing well in every game they live. This is not the first time that Kane has attracted many clubs, but Tottenham are reluctant to let go of the player.

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my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 23, 2022, 01:04:41 PM

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time,he was doing very well at Liverpool,and he has alot of task to fulfill because responsiblities will be on him to fill the void left by Lewandowski.We all know it will really be difficult to replace Lewandowski,but with time,even if he cannot do exactly what Lewa did at Bayern,he should atleast be able to score a number of goals that will make the fans happy.
Another thing is that he hasn't really blended well to the style of play of Bayern,while Lewandowski has really hit the ground running at Barca,and he is one of the leading scorers already at the league.But I know with time,Mane will do well.

Actually Mane has already adapted to the style of Bayern Munich. His scoring 5 goals in 11 games so far must be a good proof for this. Mane is really a special player for every team he joins. After he left Liverpool they felt this absence too much very quickly. They are still feeling his absence though because his role was really crucial for the productivity of the team.

Now he might be the player who Bayern Munich mostly rely on now. Because they still don't have a striker and they are hopeful about their attackers to be better at scoring. Mane is trying his best but this can't go on like this. He should go back to his natural role as soon as possible after transferring a striker.

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Quote from: Lordhermes on September 23, 2022, 01:04:41 PM

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time,he was doing very well at Liverpool,and he has alot of task to fulfill because responsiblities will be on him to fill the void left by Lewandowski.We all know it will really be difficult to replace Lewandowski,but with time,even if he cannot do exactly what Lewa did at Bayern,he should atleast be able to score a number of goals that will make the fans happy.
Another thing is that he hasn't really blended well to the style of play of Bayern,while Lewandowski has really hit the ground running at Barca,and he is one of the leading scorers already at the league.But I know with time,Mane will do well.

I'm not sure if Mane will be able to adapt to Bayern's fast and sharp playing pattern. If indeed Mane is a potential striker why did it take him so long to adapt, just look at how Lewandowski and Haaland quickly adapt to their new team because they are great strikers.
I see Musiala is more suitable to replace Lewandowski's position than Mane, currently Musiala has scored 4 goals for Bayern and I hope Nagelsmann puts Musiala in the position previously occupied by Lewandowski from now so he can adapt quickly.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on September 23, 2022, 05:37:08 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 23, 2022, 04:31:58 AM

At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans. he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

I think people shouldn't blame the mane, for him to be able to score goals it also depends on the whole team playing well so that they create good conditions for him to score goals on the field, what must be happening and that the coach of bayern needs to manage the team well position of each player so that positions in can give the mane the opportunity to score goals, a team is not just made up of a single player, the coach plays the main role in the team, if the coach of bayern is not managing to create a team good strategy with the current players so he needs to sign more players, we can't forget that Mane in liverpool had a time when the guy scored a lot of goals and didn't score goals, so he wouldn't be a player to replace lewandowski in the matter of scoring many goals, I think that should be clear to people

Quote from: Lordhermes on September 23, 2022, 01:04:41 PM

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time

to be honest, I highly doubt that will happen, he is a good player and I believe he will contribute a lot to help the team. but he won't be the best bayern player of all time, that he won't be able to be

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Quote from: Davian144 on September 23, 2022, 08:19:36 AM

Quote from: Fesatmas on September 23, 2022, 05:37:08 AM

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

Now is not the time to conclude that, because all the new players have not played so long this season in their respective teams. And also each new player will need a different time to adjust to the old players in the team they occupy. For example like Mane where he hasn't fully adapted to the Bayern Munich team this season as you said and I think that's true. So it would not be complete if we had to conclude now for every achievement of all new players including Mane.

Mane will adapt,and he will become one of the best players at Bayern,it's all time,he was doing very well at Liverpool,and he has alot of task to fulfill because responsiblities will be on him to fill the void left by Lewandowski.We all know it will really be difficult to replace Lewandowski,but with time,even if he cannot do exactly what Lewa did at Bayern,he should atleast be able to score a number of goals that will make the fans happy.
Another thing is that he hasn't really blended well to the style of play of Bayern,while Lewandowski has really hit the ground running at Barca,and he is one of the leading scorers already at the league.But I know with time,Mane will do well.

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Quote from: Tumanggor on September 23, 2022, 12:41:28 PM

I agree with what you said that Nagelsmann must immediately find the best position to mane

from what I noticed when Mane was still at Liverpool, he is a striker who is more active in providing assists than scoring goals, that's what makes him unable to replace Lewandowski as a pure striker

Muller used to provide assists to Lewandowski and that made the Bayern forward line very sharp but now Muller is forced to provide assists to Mane, and I see that it doesn't fit

They should be bolder to try something new, although this is not the time to experiment but it is worth a try to break the deadlock they are facing now, before it is too late. I still believe that they in the Bundesliga can still get to the top of the table again. But something different for the Champions League, that's what I emphasize.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on September 23, 2022, 05:37:08 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 23, 2022, 04:31:58 AM

At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans. he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

I agree with what you said that Nagelsmann must immediately find the best position to mane

from what I noticed when Mane was still at Liverpool, he is a striker who is more active in providing assists than scoring goals, that's what makes him unable to replace Lewandowski as a pure striker

Muller used to provide assists to Lewandowski and that made the Bayern forward line very sharp but now Muller is forced to provide assists to Mane, and I see that it doesn't fit

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Quote from: Lafu on September 23, 2022, 11:49:46 AM

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It's too early to say that Mane's move was a mistake. Firstly, I see that many analysts have complaints about Nagelsman, and this is logical - if a team plays according to a scheme that does not correspond to the current line-up, then this is not the fault of the players in not the best results.

Its not always the fault of the coach when the players dosnt bring the performance on the field , mostly and in case of Bayern Munich i guess its lot of games they have now.
And also maybe the rotation in the team , the defenders also dont playing every game together and so comes some problems when they get under pressure.
Lets look what the German players doing today against Hungary.

If we consider the previous Bayern Munich at the time Nagelsmann had not joined here there was a saying about "it doesn't matter who coaches Bayern Munich because in the end they will still be winners". In that sentence at least it proves that Bayern Munich players will always have a way to keep their performances in the Bundesliga, but in the Nagelsmann era it seems that is no longer the case. Therefore, it is not surprising that recently there have been rumors that Nagelsmann will be sacked and his replacement candidate is Tuchel, I personally prefer these rumors to happen than those who always blame Mane.

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Yes, this is an unusual season and there is a possibility that we will see some unexpected champions in the European championships - for example Roma or Udinese in Italy Grin

But I doubt that this is possible in the Bundesliga. No matter how bad Bayern play, all competitors will play even worse and less consistently. In some segments they can show good results, but in general they are untenable.

I also think Bayern Munich still have the best chance of winning the title despite their poor form. Because if Munich can return to form, they will win all the matches consistently and occupy the top spot in the table. But I fear, if Union Berlin is able to continue their streak then it won't be easy for Bayern Munich to win the title. Not only is Union Berlin at the top of the points table, but their performance is also excellent right now. They scored 15 goals in 7 matches and conceded only 4 goals. Union Berlin now has the strongest defense in the league. If the defense can keep this strong, Union Berlin will be able to maintain the top spot on the table for a long time.

Miracles like Leicester do happen sometimes but they are very rare so I find it ridiculous to discuss the prospects for Union Berlin. It is far from a fact that they will even get into the top three teams at the end of the season. Look at bookmaker quotes for the championship:

Bayern Munich 1.14

Borussia Dortmund 9.75

RB Leipzig 27.90

Union Berlin 41.00

I think their current result is a mixture of a good calendar and good luck in the games, but further distance will fix it all.

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We don't see the continuation of matches in the major European leagues this week, this happened because of the international break.

So what have we found so far in the Bundesliga?

We find that Union Berlin, which is an underdog team, is in first place in the Bundesliga standings, followed by Borussia Dortmund, Freiburg and TSG Hoffenheim. It seems that this season's Bundesliga will be a very different Bundesliga from the Bundesliga we usually know. The dominance of Bayern Munich is no longer visible, even now they are only in fifth position in the standings.

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Quote from: Boristhecat on September 23, 2022, 08:35:49 AM

It's too early to say that Mane's move was a mistake. Firstly, I see that many analysts have complaints about Nagelsman, and this is logical - if a team plays according to a scheme that does not correspond to the current line-up, then this is not the fault of the players in not the best results.

Its not always the fault of the coach when the players dosnt bring the performance on the field , mostly and in case of Bayern Munich i guess its lot of games they have now.
And also maybe the rotation in the team , the defenders also dont playing every game together and so comes some problems when they get under pressure.
Lets look what the German players doing today against Hungary.

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Quote from: boltz on September 21, 2022, 05:49:20 PM

World cup is getting closer guys and Bayern had almost all the players into national team or even all of them so it's kinda normal for some players to stay low as we saw what happened with Reus and poor guy, he always had problems with injuries before tournaments. So even if Bayern is not in full power , they have plenty of time to get back on track but World Cup on winter never happened before ...just saying...is a big factor for all big teams who are having national players in their squad.

FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar almost close less than two months later and I sure Bayern Munich and all player into national team not all out when playing for their team. What happen with Dortmund player Marco Reus ability miss this World Cup edition make another player most careful playing with their team if want to get participants in FIFA World Cup 2022 Qatar. Bring big problem for team have national player in their squad list because possibility when playing for their country and back to the team without fit and get injury, this week have FIFA schedule match with UEFA Nation League for European player and FIFA friendly match for other player from African, Asian and American continent were have ability for them get injury later.

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Quote from: bering on September 23, 2022, 02:31:40 AM

Mane performance on Bayern actually isn't so bad because he can able to score goals several times although not for each matches but at least he can adapt quickly but the most problem is people always be comparing him to Lewandowski so this is the biggest problem for him because during his career Mane was never became an top scores in the different league because his is more likely not the finisher and about his arrival to Bayern i think it's not Nagelsmann fault only because this also Mane fault when he made decision moved to Bayern Mane has just made a mistakes to his career

It's too early to say that Mane's move was a mistake. Firstly, I see that many analysts have complaints about Nagelsman, and this is logical - if a team plays according to a scheme that does not correspond to the current line-up, then this is not the fault of the players in not the best results. Secondly, not so many matches have been played to talk about some kind of pattern - perhaps in the next games Mane will score a lot of goals and, as a result, his average performance will be higher than that of Lewandowski.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on September 23, 2022, 05:37:08 AM

Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 23, 2022, 04:31:58 AM

At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans. he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

Sadio Mane is not looking good so far. He started well but in 7 games he still feels out of place. He hasn't made any connections to other players. Bayern as a team are mostly doing well so far, but out of all their offensive players, he is among the weakest. Sadio Mane hasn't been able to beat his man on the flanks for the last 2 seasons, that's why he's moved into the middle and his form has improved. However, that doesn't mean it will work at Bayern.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on September 23, 2022, 05:37:08 AM

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

Now is not the time to conclude that, because all the new players have not played so long this season in their respective teams. And also each new player will need a different time to adjust to the old players in the team they occupy. For example like Mane where he hasn't fully adapted to the Bayern Munich team this season as you said and I think that's true. So it would not be complete if we had to conclude now for every achievement of all new players including Mane.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on September 23, 2022, 04:31:58 AM

At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans. he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

I can't say Sadio Mane is a flop now, but he still hasn't found the game he's used to playing like at Liverpool. Bayern Munich still haven't found the chemistry between their new signings. I think he still needs time for that, to get the best out of him. Even though it takes time, I'm sure Mane can show something that is his strength. The league has only started a few weeks, it's not as expected but we have to be a little patient to see Mane.

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At the start of the competition, Sadio Mane really managed to captivate the day of the Die Bayern fans. he can adapt quickly at the beginning of the season, but as the competition progresses. Sadio Mane, has difficulty adapting to the many changes in strategy and rotations made by Nagels. as a result in the last few matches, Mane did not contribute to scoring goals.
no doubt Nagel often uses Mane as a Finisher to replace Lewandowski's role, but it seems that Mane does not fit the position that Nagels wants. so Nagel had to rack his brain to change his strategy when playing his matches.

As a result, Bayern can't play at their best.

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Quote from: bering on September 23, 2022, 02:31:40 AM

Quote from: Velvet78 on September 22, 2022, 01:52:17 PM

When Mane was brought here first I thought that they were thinking of signing a striker as well. In the end Mane is not a striker and he wasn't playing like that for Liverpool too. But interestingly they didn't even look for any striker before the end of the transfer window. This was a really bad management by Bayern Munich board. They literally risked this season for the team. They are being punished for this really hard in the Bundesliga these days.
Nagelsmann must have a clear mind about his future because this isn't his fault at all.

Mane performance on Bayern actually isn't so bad because he can able to score goals several times although not for each matches but at least he can adapt quickly but the most problem is people always be comparing him to Lewandowski so this is the biggest problem for him because during his career Mane was never became an top scores in the different league because his is more likely not the finisher and about his arrival to Bayern i think it's not Nagelsmann fault only because this also Mane fault when he made decision moved to Bayern Mane has just made a mistakes to his career

I'd say Nagelsmann is living in a fool's paradise if he now expects Sadio Mane to score regularly. Sadio Mane has never been a regular scorer. He scored his career high in the 2018–19 season when he managed to score 22 goals. So it would be foolish to expect a lot of goals from Sadio Mane. Nagelsmann will definitely need to find a regular scorer to replace Lewandowski. Otherwise, the void created by Lewandowski leaving the team will not be filled. Sadio Mane might be able to bring stability to the team's performance. But he won't be able to consistently score in every match like Lewandowski.

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