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Quote from: Sebas.tian on August 10, 2022, 12:40:53 AM

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Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

I think, Chelsea coach is a talented coach that know what is good for the team and what is not good for the team at the moment, so that the managements will not look at him as a someone that is not qualify for the job. Not that the players tuchel's released are not good in Chelsea, just that he what to know if truly he is good for the Job in this season by training the new players to see what they will offer to the team in this season. I believe, Chelsea coach made a good choice in this season by bringing in new talented squads that will move the team to her next level in this season.

Timo was feeling frustated on chelsea. he was always saying that to the M ballack. I do believe this is the best decision for him rather than always stay on the club that he think if it's not a proper team for him to adapt. Chelsea needs a striker with the same tipycal as drogba but not timo.
Leipzig has been taking a very good decision by bringing back him again to the bundesliga

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Quote from: MCobian on August 09, 2022, 09:24:09 AM

Chelsea bought Werner from Leipzig for 53 million euros, but unfortunately Werner was disappointing with Chelsea. While playing for Chelsea,
Werner scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 appearances. That's not a good achievement for Werner, Timo Werner struggled to find playing time
at Chelsea, so it was a very good decision for Werner to return to the Bundesliga. Because before Werner moved to Chelsea, Werner was
a fairly productive striker, even Werner became a key player for Leipzig.

although During his two seasons at Chelsea, not a few thought Werner did not live up to expectations. He 'only' scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 matches. Even though he was bought from Leipzig because he was able to score 90 goals and 40 assists in 156 matches.
However, I don't think Werner feels like his career has failed at Chelsea. Werner fulfilled his promise to the Blues supporters by giving the Champions League trophy. He also contributed to the European Super Cup and Club World Cup titles.

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Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

I think, Chelsea coach is a talented coach that know what is good for the team and what is not good for the team at the moment, so that the managements will not look at him as a someone that is not qualify for the job. Not that the players tuchel's released are not good in Chelsea, just that he what to know if truly he is good for the Job in this season by training the new players to see what they will offer to the team in this season. I believe, Chelsea coach made a good choice in this season by bringing in new talented squads that will move the team to her next level in this season.

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Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

This is a problem that always faced by chelsea. 2 times this club was kicking out lukaku from the club. This club bought lukaku with a non sense price but this time he was going out again. I know find the most suitable striker for club was not easy enough. I think that you are overrated about timo werner. This guy already offered to the some clubs as additional player to be exchanged with the new player but none of those club interested with im.
It's good to see that werner was going back to the leipzig

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Quote from: Z-tight on August 09, 2022, 03:26:25 PM

Quote from: Alanaz on August 09, 2022, 09:31:05 AM

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 09, 2022, 09:31:05 AM

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Chelsea bought Werner from Leipzig for 53 million euros, but unfortunately Werner was disappointing with Chelsea. While playing for Chelsea,
Werner scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 appearances. That's not a good achievement for Werner, Timo Werner struggled to find playing time
at Chelsea, so it was a very good decision for Werner to return to the Bundesliga. Because before Werner moved to Chelsea, Werner was
a fairly productive striker, even Werner became a key player for Leipzig. I'm sure Timo Werner will rediscover his best game with Leipzig.

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

You're right not only Timo Werner whose form looked down when joined Chelsea, some of the new players who were brought in by Chelsea also
declined in performance. The most recent example is Lukaku, Lukaku's performance has decreased a lot when compared to when he was still playing
with Inter. This means that some players may not fit Tuchel's strategy, therefore Chelsea often fail to compete with Barcelona to get the players
they want, maybe because some players are afraid of not adapting to Tuchel's strategy. In fact, Timo Werner is a very good player and can make
a big contribution if Tuchel can play Werner with the right strategy. But it is difficult to expect Tuchel to change his strategy, so it is better for Werner
to relent by leaving Chelsea. But now Leipzig have many good forwards, moreover Leipzig also managed to get Benjamin Sesko, so Werner will not
be easy to seize the position as a major player.

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 09, 2022, 09:31:05 AM

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

It is Tuchel's tactics and lack of Team behavioural management that is causing it. We might not say this for Wener, Zyich and Harverts because they were not even resourceful for Lampard that bought them, many people believed that new coach will make them good. But now there is not improvement under Tuchel. But you see Lukaku's failure in Chelsea is Tuchel's fault. He killed the giant in Lukaku, betrayed him and set him up against the fans. Now that there is no Lukaku, I am not seeing anyone in the whole Chelsea forward apart from Sterling.

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Quote from: KTChampions on August 09, 2022, 12:50:14 PM

In the next round, the most reliable team in the Bundesliga meets with Wolfsburg and the quotes at the moment are as follows:

1,15 - 9,20 - 15,00

In my opinion, absolutely uninteresting odds for Bayern to win. I think TB4=1.87 looks much more attractive because even if there is a draw or if Bayern lose, there will be clearly more than 4 goals scored. What do you think?

This is still possible considering that if you look at their first match it is clear in terms of goals more than 4 it is very possible to happen in this match and Wolfsburg also have a pretty good front line there, but indeed for 1.15 it is definitely not very good I think to be a bet , this is full of risks even though they are very favored.

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 09, 2022, 09:31:05 AM

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on August 09, 2022, 05:31:00 AM

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Dortmund weren't satisfying at all in their first game in the league. But they somehow managed to defeat Leverkusen 1-0. Actually Dortmund still have a capable lineup after their last transfers. Not having Haaland is of course bad for them but they have always been accustomed to play with those players and selling them after some time. They should still be able to stay as one of the strongest teams in the league from now on. I'm wondering about what Adeyemi will do this season as he has been brought here with big hopes.

I believe, Adeyemi will definitely increase his performance in their next match because he has showcased some tactics that will make him to perform more than Haaland in this season to give their fans a big hope. Dortmund midfield and defense are well organized in this season, because they stopped their opponent not to achieve any goal from the match until their striker achieved a goal that gave them victory at the end of the match. Dortmund players will never allow what happened in this match to happen again than to win the match with 3-0 for the favour of Dortmund to alert other teams that they are fully ready to achieve this season title.

I really don’t think that Dortmund is pretending. I believe they were actually unable to perform better in that match. And obviously, I don’t think anyone will be able to fill the shoes of Haaland. There have been times when he had carried the whole Dortmund team on his back and took them to the victory line. I don’t think that is going to be replaceable by any player that is in the Dortmund team right now. Their performance was not satisfactory in the last match from them. But I think they are going to perform better once the season properly starts and the players are not rusty anymore. Adeyemi is good but cannot be a proper replacement for Haaland.

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 09, 2022, 09:31:05 AM

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I do agree that Werner returning to Bundesliga is a good choice, 20 million for him doesn't sounds too bad neither and I get that. But, when we are talking about Leipzig and Werner, that becomes a bit of a trouble and I do not think that it would be as good as we might think. Leipzig is not the best team in the league, they may score enough goals but not the most goals probably, and that means we are going to see Werner not scoring a ton of goals again.

Dortmund should have gotten him instead of all the players they got, they already spent useless amount of money on players that do not worth it, so it doesn't make sense to not go for Werner when they could have, would have been better for both.

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Quote from: hahay on August 09, 2022, 02:57:19 AM

Does Timo Werner have no other choice besides Leipzig, because previously Timo Werner was a Leipzig player and then left for Chelsea. Also, Timo Werner is still under contract at Chelsea until 2025, is this a hasty decision for him. Because even though Timo Werner doesn't have many goals at Chelsea, but I see Timo Werner is still doing well at Chelsea. I still haven't searched for further information, so I wonder what made him choose to leave and what are the strong reasons. Because if he has a problem at Chelsea maybe it's natural for Timo Werner to choose to leave, but if he doesn't have a big problem then I think it would be better to stay for at least another season or two.

he did not feel at home in chelsea, chelsea may have plans for this player in the future, but i am not sure what those plans are, they should have, right?
because he is a player full of potential, i believe if timo warner wanted he could have played for a better team instead of rb leipzig, but in the end, it is his choice and i respect that

Quote from: MinoRaiola on August 09, 2022, 08:25:13 AM

You're both right, he was never a star at Chelsea and in the premier league it's a different level. There, even the small teams are very strong. In germany, you also play against a team that is weak and you can score 2-3 goals, that happens in england on a completely different level. Timo Werner used to be the strongest striker at RB Leipzig, that can very well happen again and then Bayern will knock on his door again. They also wanted to get him when Chelsea got him, they just paid a lot more money.

i am sure that if he moves to bayern munich, he will be expected to perform a lot better than what he did at chelsea, because in bayern munich he will only have two or three strong teams, maximum of four, who will be able to cause problems for bayern munich, but against almost all the other teams he will be able to score one or two goals on average per match, but that’s not the case in the english premier league, is it?

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Quote from: MCobian on August 09, 2022, 09:24:09 AM

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Timo Werner dosnt struggled to find his way and playing in Chelsea , the main problem was that there was so much very good players.
And i guess we will see a different Werner playing again in Leipzig and also i think it can be a good combination with David Raum.

Quote from: monineklutak on August 09, 2022, 09:29:42 AM

Don't underestimate the scout from Dortmund, he wouldn't go wrong looking for a replacement for Haller,
yes we know that Haller is a worthy striker to replace Halland, but it's a shame that Haller got sick,
and I'm really surprised Modeste is Haller's replacement, from 30 appearances in the club. in 2021/2022,
Modeste was able to score 20 goals, of course this is a very good achievement.

Modeste is a good player and at Cologne he was hanging a bit in the Air because of there playing style and the other players.
He has in Dortmund now players that can give him the things that in Cologne was missing.
And he will be scoring in Dortmund , i have no doubt about that.

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In the next round, the most reliable team in the Bundesliga meets with Wolfsburg and the quotes at the moment are as follows:

1,15 - 9,20 - 15,00

In my opinion, absolutely uninteresting odds for Bayern to win. I think TB4=1.87 looks much more attractive because even if there is a draw or if Bayern lose, there will be clearly more than 4 goals scored. What do you think?

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Quote from: monineklutak on August 09, 2022, 09:29:42 AM

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He is an experienced player so Borussia Dortmund signed him at least before they discovered the new potential of the young players they have. Usually like that, one team will recruit experienced players and on the other they will explore young potential. If they have found it they will immediately replace the old players on the team.

Don't underestimate the scout from Dortmund, he wouldn't go wrong looking for a replacement for Haller,
yes we know that Haller is a worthy striker to replace Halland, but it's a shame that Haller got sick,
and I'm really surprised Modeste is Haller's replacement, from 30 appearances in the club. in 2021/2022,
Modeste was able to score 20 goals, of course this is a very good achievement.

In this case, I do not intend to be prejudiced against the talent scouts there and indeed in terms of Modeste's game it can still be said to be good but is he ready to play at Dortmund's level now? At the moment it is clear that the burden on Modeste is very heavy because high expectations will definitely be with him coming to Signal Iduna Park and seeing the contract given it is clear that this is only a temporary substitute and will still be discarded when Haller is fully recovered.

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Quote from: Alanaz on August 09, 2022, 09:31:05 AM

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Chelsea bought Werner from Leipzig for 53 million euros, but unfortunately Werner was disappointing with Chelsea. While playing for Chelsea,
Werner scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 appearances. That's not a good achievement for Werner, Timo Werner struggled to find playing time
at Chelsea, so it was a very good decision for Werner to return to the Bundesliga. Because before Werner moved to Chelsea, Werner was
a fairly productive striker, even Werner became a key player for Leipzig. I'm sure Timo Werner will rediscover his best game with Leipzig.

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

Overall,the premier league is not a place for children,the premier league is a place where there are so many difficulties,players competing for places,infact premier league is very tough and because of that,most players who were doing well at their different leagues,the moment they come to the English premier league,they seem to be flops and are unable to meet up to expectation.
The defenders there are very tough,and it makes attackers have goal drought.It is only players who have determined to battle with whatever they see,that will end up doing well,that is why it is good for the clubs to be patient with their players in delivering for them,and to also give their players some times to pick form and help them build confidence.

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Quote from: MinoRaiola on August 09, 2022, 08:25:13 AM

You're both right, he was never a star at Chelsea and in the premier league it's a different level. There, even the small teams are very strong. In germany, you also play against a team that is weak and you can score 2-3 goals, that happens in england on a completely different level. Timo Werner used to be the strongest striker at RB Leipzig, that can very well happen again and then Bayern will knock on his door again. They also wanted to get him when Chelsea got him, they just paid a lot more money.

I think Timo Warner have personal reason why leaving Chelsea and return back with his previous club Leipzig, actually he has guarantee with regular position with Leipzig and open his chance back to Germany squad for World Cup 2022. He will find easy way keep playing consistent with Leipzig because on Bundesliga become easy level than Primer League. Timo Warner actually not find with difficult way when playing on Primer League but he don't get more minutes playing and become not easy keep consistent and scoring goals on every match, I hope he can back to the top performance again when playing with Leipzig.

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Quote from: MCobian on August 09, 2022, 09:24:09 AM

Chelsea bought Werner from Leipzig for 53 million euros, but unfortunately Werner was disappointing with Chelsea. While playing for Chelsea,
Werner scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 appearances. That's not a good achievement for Werner, Timo Werner struggled to find playing time
at Chelsea, so it was a very good decision for Werner to return to the Bundesliga. Because before Werner moved to Chelsea, Werner was
a fairly productive striker, even Werner became a key player for Leipzig. I'm sure Timo Werner will rediscover his best game with Leipzig.

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

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The speculation about who is the replacement of Haller finally ended that after linked to several names such as Luis Suarez, Edinson Cavani or Ronaldo then today Dortmund had new player for striker position and the negotiation has been deal that Dortmund successfully to buy Koln player Anthony Modeste and he will get 1 year contact until 2023 and last season he has score 20 goals in Bundesliga although he is not young anymore i think he is very potential striker

He is an experienced player so Borussia Dortmund signed him at least before they discovered the new potential of the young players they have. Usually like that, one team will recruit experienced players and on the other they will explore young potential. If they have found it they will immediately replace the old players on the team.

Don't underestimate the scout from Dortmund, he wouldn't go wrong looking for a replacement for Haller,
yes we know that Haller is a worthy striker to replace Halland, but it's a shame that Haller got sick,
and I'm really surprised Modeste is Haller's replacement, from 30 appearances in the club. in 2021/2022,
Modeste was able to score 20 goals, of course this is a very good achievement.

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Timo Werner leaves Chelsea FC and goes back to Germany to RB Leipzig. It's not 100% yet, but he's already in germany and the media is reporting an arranged. He cost € 20 million and earn less money in Germany as in England. Today is the medical check and then it will probably official. He would be the 12 striker in the squad, and only one of them injured.

Even if Timo Werner is not with Chelsea, Chelsea will not facing too many problems. Werner was able to score only 4 goals in 21 appearances in the Premier League last season. He did not play well in the Premier League. But the gameplay of the Bundesliga is different. Also, the Bundesliga is not as competitive as the Premier League. Maybe Werner can play well in the Bundesliga. Besides, Leipzig is a good enough team.

Does Timo Werner have no other choice besides Leipzig, because previously Timo Werner was a Leipzig player and then left for Chelsea. Also, Timo Werner is still under contract at Chelsea until 2025, is this a hasty decision for him. Because even though Timo Werner doesn't have many goals at Chelsea, but I see Timo Werner is still doing well at Chelsea. I still haven't searched for further information, so I wonder what made him choose to leave and what are the strong reasons. Because if he has a problem at Chelsea maybe it's natural for Timo Werner to choose to leave, but if he doesn't have a big problem then I think it would be better to stay for at least another season or two.

You're both right, he was never a star at Chelsea and in the premier league it's a different level. There, even the small teams are very strong. In germany, you also play against a team that is weak and you can score 2-3 goals, that happens in england on a completely different level. Timo Werner used to be the strongest striker at RB Leipzig, that can very well happen again and then Bayern will knock on his door again. They also wanted to get him when Chelsea got him, they just paid a lot more money.

Chelsea bought Werner from Leipzig for 53 million euros, but unfortunately Werner was disappointing with Chelsea. While playing for Chelsea,
Werner scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 appearances. That's not a good achievement for Werner, Timo Werner struggled to find playing time
at Chelsea, so it was a very good decision for Werner to return to the Bundesliga. Because before Werner moved to Chelsea, Werner was
a fairly productive striker, even Werner became a key player for Leipzig.

I am sure Timo Werner will rediscover his best game with Leipzig, hopefully Werner's move to Leipzig can be realized soon. This will be
a profitable purchase for Leipzig, besides Leipzig being able to get a cheaper price, Leipzig will also have an even stronger squad with
the arrival of Werner, I really hope that Leipzig can end Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga. Although I admit it will not be easy for
Leipzig to end Bayern's dominance.

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