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Quote from: blue Snow on August 09, 2022, 09:40:17 PM

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

They did not sell these players only because of finance. These players can not play well with Tuchel tactics and the club chose the coach (Tuchel), not star players. We can discuss about Lukaku case that he likely needs more time. However, Lukaku after returning to Inter Milan shows that his heart and head no longer belong to Chelsea. Hence, it does not make sense for them to keep him in Chelsea.

For Werner, he was improved in last phase of past season but it is not a guarantee for his performance in this season. Moreover he wants to get more opportunities to play and want to be in Germany squad in World Cup. Returning to Leipzig is what he wants and Chelsea decided to let him go.

I think both cases are good from Chelsea side and good for future of two players too.

I think Werner is good, lucky Leipzig got him. Indeed, some good players if they don't fit the player's criteria then they won't be needed. The decision to leave was right, he would have got more playing hours if he was able to perform well in Leipzig.
But in history when he was at leipzig from 2016 to 2020 he was always the top choice, he almost played more than 30 times in the domestic league. Although indeed he did not score too many goals. as an assailant. He's far behind haaland or Nunez.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 09, 2022, 09:40:17 PM

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

They did not sell these players only because of finance. These players can not play well with Tuchel tactics and the club chose the coach (Tuchel), not star players. We can discuss about Lukaku case that he likely needs more time. However, Lukaku after returning to Inter Milan shows that his heart and head no longer belong to Chelsea. Hence, it does not make sense for them to keep him in Chelsea.

For Werner, he was improved in last phase of past season but it is not a guarantee for his performance in this season. Moreover he wants to get more opportunities to play and want to be in Germany squad in World Cup. Returning to Leipzig is what he wants and Chelsea decided to let him go.

I think both cases are good from Chelsea side and good for future of two players too.

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If a team's goal is to win the title, they should not be dependent on any particular player. They should definitely keep the replacement. It is impossible to guarantee that a player will play well for an entire season or suffer injury. The Dortmund team is not stable enough this season either. They may qualify for the Champions League, but will be far behind Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga.

Actually, even though they have players who can be said to be a mainstay, but it has no effect on their team's game. The problem is they always let their potential. They don't think for achievements in my opinion, they are just content to sit under Bayern Munich. Because if they wanted to, they certainly could.

That's true because they actually have star players every season but Dortmund don't have a promising project so players are leaving Dortmund and joining a club that really offers a good project,
Dortmund is a club with potential players and I never doubted that,
We'll see how far Dortmund will go this season

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Quote from: bct_ail on August 10, 2022, 10:00:00 AM

Freiburg started exactly where they ended last season. It's important for Freiburg to get a lot of points quickly. If they also have the international games, the burden can become too great. But maybe the international games will give them even more confidence and they will play a great season. The match at Friday against Dortmund is also for me the top match on matchday 2.

SC Freiburg against Borussia Dortmund would be an unpredictable match. Dortmund struggled to win the match against Bayer 04 Leverkusen. While Freiburg comfortably won their match.But my comparison would be wrong if I grade the two clubs based on their last match performance this is because Leverkusen is a very good side, hence I didn't expect that match to end with more than two goals. We expect to see a more organised and entertaining football because the players of both teams would keep blending and understanding each other as the games progresses.

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Quote from: bct_ail on August 10, 2022, 10:00:00 AM

Freiburg started exactly where they ended last season. It's important for Freiburg to get a lot of points quickly. If they also have the international games, the burden can become too great. But maybe the international games will give them even more confidence and they will play a great season. The match at Friday against Dortmund is also for me the top match on matchday 2.

Freiburg started the first week better than Dortmund. and the match against Dortmund although it is quite difficult I believe Freiburg can also provide a possibility of victory.
Freiburg I think has good confidence to host Dortmund. this could be the most interesting match of the 2nd week. I want to bet on Freiburg.

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Quote from: bct_ail on August 10, 2022, 10:00:00 AM

Freiburg started exactly where they ended last season. It's important for Freiburg to get a lot of points quickly. If they also have the international games, the burden can become too great. But maybe the international games will give them even more confidence and they will play a great season. The match at Friday against Dortmund is also for me the top match on matchday 2.

Freiburg as the host certainly will not be easy to beat by Dortmund. The match will be an exciting match that both want to win this match. In the previous match Freiburg managed to beat Augsburg with a 4-0 win which built on an impressive start.

The match will take place on Saturday, August 13, 2022, 01:30. at the Europa-park Stadium stadium.

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Freiburg started exactly where they ended last season. It's important for Freiburg to get a lot of points quickly. If they also have the international games, the burden can become too great. But maybe the international games will give them even more confidence and they will play a great season. The match at Friday against Dortmund is also for me the top match on matchday 2.

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Quote from: Distraction on August 10, 2022, 08:54:21 AM

Freiburg - Dortmund match is more attention getting to me rather than Bayern Munich's. Because we will watch a tough match between these two teams certainly. Freiburg are one of the toughest opponents for Dortmund currently. By the way they haven't been able to win against Freiburg away in their last three head-to-heads. As they didn't seem prepared against Leverkusen in their first match also I think they will have problems in this match too. Freiburg won't lose this.

This match will be very competitive. Although Dortmund won the first match against Leverkusen. But they could not dominate the match. Freiburg is not a weak team. They will definitely be looking to win against Dortmund. Dortmund has lost their last two away matches against Freiburg. So the next match will be very difficult for Dortmund. The match is more likely to be a draw. Both teams will probably be happy to share the points.

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Freiburg - Dortmund match is more attention getting to me rather than Bayern Munich's. Because we will watch a tough match between these two teams certainly. Freiburg are one of the toughest opponents for Dortmund currently. By the way they haven't been able to win against Freiburg away in their last three head-to-heads. As they didn't seem prepared against Leverkusen in their first match also I think they will have problems in this match too. Freiburg won't lose this.

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In the next round, the most reliable team in the Bundesliga meets with Wolfsburg and the quotes at the moment are as follows:

1,15 - 9,20 - 15,00

In my opinion, absolutely uninteresting odds for Bayern to win. I think TB4=1.87 looks much more attractive because even if there is a draw or if Bayern lose, there will be clearly more than 4 goals scored. What do you think?

This is still possible considering that if you look at their first match it is clear in terms of goals more than 4 it is very possible to happen in this match and Wolfsburg also have a pretty good front line there, but indeed for 1.15 it is definitely not very good I think to be a bet , this is full of risks even though they are very favored.

Bayern have so far conceded goals in every game (last season their defense was also far from ideal), but they have a powerful attack. I can't believe the bad result for Bayern if they don't score at least a couple of goals. But they can win with a clean sheet. It turns out the BTTS bet is unreliable. Quite paradoxically, but it turns out that TB3 or TB4 looks better than BTTS.

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Quote from: 1kodumtek7 on August 10, 2022, 03:12:41 AM

The Werner signing is finally done for Leipzig for a fee of 20 million euros. Leipzig must be very contented with having one of their best players back in the team now. He didn't have good days with Chelsea for a long time and he finally has an opportunity to show his real performance at his old team. I also wonder what Chelsea are thinking after sending Lukaku and Werner both in the same transfer window. However they might not make a big signing for the centre-forward position I assume.

And when they sold him they received 53 million. Therefore a financial gain in any case.
It is certainly better for Werner to change clubs. Somehow he did not feel so comfortable in London and you could see that. Besides, he wants to play in the World Cup and for that he has to be able to play. He will certainly do that more at Leipzig than at Chelsea.

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The Werner signing is finally done for Leipzig for a fee of 20 million euros. Leipzig must be very contented with having one of their best players back in the team now. He didn't have good days with Chelsea for a long time and he finally has an opportunity to show his real performance at his old team. I also wonder what Chelsea are thinking after sending Lukaku and Werner both in the same transfer window. However they might not make a big signing for the centre-forward position I assume.

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Quote from: Bobrox on August 10, 2022, 02:49:42 AM

Still not understand what happen with Chelsea right now and problem faced by Thomas Tuchel because he braves selling two great central forward Lukaku and Timo Warner, other side he still not find new replacement on central forward. What happen next if Chelsea playing without have real central forward? I think Raheem Sterling is not strong enough plays as central forward and his characters likely as left or right winger position, but last few days Chelsea announcement for selling Tomo Warner to Leipzig. Most surprise when Chelsea losing with two central forward, Thomas Tuchel just get transfer with defender position. Chelsea pay most expensive values for Marc Cucurella transfer from Brighton Albion.

It seems that in this case Tuchel has other considerations even though it is a bit beyond expectations when loaning Lukaku and selling Werner at this time. But indeed even when they are defended it is clear that this is not good because indeed they cannot develop at Chelsea and forcing them to play will obviously only be a burden for both the players and the club itself.
On the other hand, Chelsea does seem to be able to run even without a pure striker there.

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Quote from: blue Snow on August 09, 2022, 09:40:17 PM

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

Still not understand what happen with Chelsea right now and problem faced by Thomas Tuchel because he braves selling two great central forward Lukaku and Timo Warner, other side he still not find new replacement on central forward. What happen next if Chelsea playing without have real central forward? I think Raheem Sterling is not strong enough plays as central forward and his characters likely as left or right winger position, but last few days Chelsea announcement for selling Tomo Warner to Leipzig. Most surprise when Chelsea losing with two central forward, Thomas Tuchel just get transfer with defender position. Chelsea pay most expensive values for Marc Cucurella transfer from Brighton Albion.

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Quote from: fuguebtc on August 09, 2022, 03:58:52 AM

If a team's goal is to win the title, they should not be dependent on any particular player. They should definitely keep the replacement. It is impossible to guarantee that a player will play well for an entire season or suffer injury. The Dortmund team is not stable enough this season either. They may qualify for the Champions League, but will be far behind Bayern Munich in the Bundesliga.

Actually, even though they have players who can be said to be a mainstay, but it has no effect on their team's game. The problem is they always let their potential. They don't think for achievements in my opinion, they are just content to sit under Bayern Munich. Because if they wanted to, they certainly could.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on August 10, 2022, 12:40:53 AM

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Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

I think, Chelsea coach is a talented coach that know what is good for the team and what is not good for the team at the moment, so that the managements will not look at him as a someone that is not qualify for the job. Not that the players tuchel's released are not good in Chelsea, just that he what to know if truly he is good for the Job in this season by training the new players to see what they will offer to the team in this season. I believe, Chelsea coach made a good choice in this season by bringing in new talented squads that will move the team to her next level in this season.

Timo was feeling frustated on chelsea. he was always saying that to the M ballack. I do believe this is the best decision for him rather than always stay on the club that he think if it's not a proper team for him to adapt. Chelsea needs a striker with the same tipycal as drogba but not timo.
Leipzig has been taking a very good decision by bringing back him again to the bundesliga

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Quote from: MCobian on August 09, 2022, 09:24:09 AM

Chelsea bought Werner from Leipzig for 53 million euros, but unfortunately Werner was disappointing with Chelsea. While playing for Chelsea,
Werner scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 appearances. That's not a good achievement for Werner, Timo Werner struggled to find playing time
at Chelsea, so it was a very good decision for Werner to return to the Bundesliga. Because before Werner moved to Chelsea, Werner was
a fairly productive striker, even Werner became a key player for Leipzig.

although During his two seasons at Chelsea, not a few thought Werner did not live up to expectations. He 'only' scored 23 goals and 21 assists in 89 matches. Even though he was bought from Leipzig because he was able to score 90 goals and 40 assists in 156 matches.
However, I don't think Werner feels like his career has failed at Chelsea. Werner fulfilled his promise to the Blues supporters by giving the Champions League trophy. He also contributed to the European Super Cup and Club World Cup titles.

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Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

I think, Chelsea coach is a talented coach that know what is good for the team and what is not good for the team at the moment, so that the managements will not look at him as a someone that is not qualify for the job. Not that the players tuchel's released are not good in Chelsea, just that he what to know if truly he is good for the Job in this season by training the new players to see what they will offer to the team in this season. I believe, Chelsea coach made a good choice in this season by bringing in new talented squads that will move the team to her next level in this season.

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Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

This is a problem that always faced by chelsea. 2 times this club was kicking out lukaku from the club. This club bought lukaku with a non sense price but this time he was going out again. I know find the most suitable striker for club was not easy enough. I think that you are overrated about timo werner. This guy already offered to the some clubs as additional player to be exchanged with the new player but none of those club interested with im.
It's good to see that werner was going back to the leipzig

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Quote from: Z-tight on August 09, 2022, 03:26:25 PM

Quote from: Alanaz on August 09, 2022, 09:31:05 AM

Werner's form did drop a lot and I don't know if Chelsea were expecting too much or if Werner wasn't playing well there which made it a bit difficult for Wener to be at Chelsea but the same thing actually happened for other strikers there like Lukaku and even Ziyech. So I really wonder if it's the quality of the players who aren't playing well at the moment or if they don't match Tuchel's formation in attack.

I will not blame Tuchel's tactics or formation, i can't find anything wrong with the tactics he uses, Werner was bad playing for Chelsea and nothing else, the same thing with Lukaku, they were given their chances to perform in the team, but they didn't. It does not mean that Werner is not a quality player, he was good when he was playing for Leipzig, that is why Chelsea spent a lot of money to get him to their club, now he is back to Leipzig he may start playing as good as he was doing then. I don't know if Chelsea will go for another striker, or play Sterling in the number 9 position.

Maybe Chelsea needs a new financial manager to not sell (Lukaku and Werner) players at low prices. But, Leipzig is lucky to get cheap with I think enough quality players, Werner is the best attacker around the world have, he just hasn't found a manager who can understand him and how to place him. Werner is a real attacker who needs a supplier a player on the center field like Olmo which I think make him sharp attacker.

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