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Quote from: Slow death on July 27, 2022, 06:28:11 PM

the bundesliga is a very strange league, just like the french league. small teams have conformed themselves to being small teams. they don't want to win the bundesliga and champions league, it seems that the purpose of small team is to have great players and then sell them and the club takes the money and eats. honestly i don't see what the point of doing this, i know money is something very good and important, but don't they feel ashamed of all the years they just play to stay in the bundesliga without winning at least the bundesliga? they don't want to be number 1? of being able to win the champions league? Is strange how these small teams behave

There is a good point in what you said. Smaller teams don't compete harder against the biggest teams in this league for example. Even Dortmund are considered to be one of these biggest teams but they also don't aim to win the league title at the end of the day. In a league like this, it is like there is no way for seeing a different champion than Bayern Munich. This just lowers the quality of a league imo and makes it quite boring. I don't think that this will change in the future easily for leagues like this one.

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Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 06:42:30 PM

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That's the case with every league isnt it? Top teams farm the smaller teams to get stronger. Bigger leagues farm the smaller leagues for better players. Real Madrid used to farm top talent from all over the world for record prices and create a superstar team. How was that fair? it isnt, but its just how businesses are run. Man City did that to the premier league and now are a top contender and champion after being a mid table team for a very long time. Football in the end, is just business. Smaller teams need money to sustain and improve facilities which the bigger clubs provide in exchange for talent. The issue with German and the French league is that there isnt enough competition at the top. I'd still say the German league is much much better in terms of competition, compared to the French which has basically been PSG dominating at the top for a while.

In this era, football is not just a game. football is no longer just an entertainment spectacle for football lovers around the world but more than that professional football has developed into a big industry and become a promising business.

Overall what you say is true and I agree, this is what is called a cycle in the world of football. small clubs need big clubs and vice versa so this axis will go on and on. As for the differences in the French and German leagues, I have to agree the German league is better in terms of competition.

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Quote from: Bobrox on July 27, 2022, 11:42:28 PM

Financial side make all club get different each other and Bundesliga looks not all team have much money for active on window transfer and buy star player like did by Bayern Munich and Dortmund. I think need new investor will give competitive with Bundesliga and not always Bayern Munich dominance to be champion every year but also need to find new club like Dortmund, Leverkusen and Leipzig could destroy with Bayern Munich dominance. I think first time need how small team make new investment with young player and keep make them become potential and give several years contract, not sell before have more contribution for team and this way could make Bayern Munich less dominance on Bundesliga at the future.

New investors will enter when they see the potential of the team that will be their investment destination. And I see in the Bundesliga they don't have the high selling power to attract new investors. And quite annoying indeed, once again we are shown the dominance of Bayern Munich which is not only in achievement but also in team finances. Lol

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Financial side make all club get different each other and Bundesliga looks not all team have much money for active on window transfer and buy star player like did by Bayern Munich and Dortmund. I think need new investor will give competitive with Bundesliga and not always Bayern Munich dominance to be champion every year but also need to find new club like Dortmund, Leverkusen and Leipzig could destroy with Bayern Munich dominance. I think first time need how small team make new investment with young player and keep make them become potential and give several years contract, not sell before have more contribution for team and this way could make Bayern Munich less dominance on Bundesliga at the future.

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Quote from: Slow death on July 27, 2022, 06:28:11 PM

the bundesliga is a very strange league, just like the french league. small teams have conformed themselves to being small teams. they don't want to win the bundesliga and champions league, it seems that the purpose of small team is to have great players and then sell them and the club takes the money and eats. honestly i don't see what the point of doing this, i know money is something very good and important, but don't they feel ashamed of all the years they just play to stay in the bundesliga without winning at least the bundesliga? they don't want to be number 1? of being able to win the champions league? Is strange how these small teams behave

That's the case with every league isnt it? Top teams farm the smaller teams to get stronger. Bigger leagues farm the smaller leagues for better players. Real Madrid used to farm top talent from all over the world for record prices and create a superstar team. How was that fair? it isnt, but its just how businesses are run. Man City did that to the premier league and now are a top contender and champion after being a mid table team for a very long time. Football in the end, is just business. Smaller teams need money to sustain and improve facilities which the bigger clubs provide in exchange for talent. The issue with German and the French league is that there isnt enough competition at the top. I'd still say the German league is much much better in terms of competition, compared to the French which has basically been PSG dominating at the top for a while.

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the bundesliga is a very strange league, just like the french league. small teams have conformed themselves to being small teams. they don't want to win the bundesliga and champions league, it seems that the purpose of small team is to have great players and then sell them and the club takes the money and eats. honestly i don't see what the point of doing this, i know money is something very good and important, but don't they feel ashamed of all the years they just play to stay in the bundesliga without winning at least the bundesliga? they don't want to be number 1? of being able to win the champions league? Is strange how these small teams behave

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on July 27, 2022, 05:21:23 PM

Quote from: boltz on July 27, 2022, 04:43:22 AM

Well , like someone said in this thread. With so many important players leaving Bundesliga and with so little transfers being made by "mid-tier" teams , how will Bundesliga increase it's internal performance ? We all know that this is the main problem with Bundesliga right now : The competition is tight just in front when every year only 2 teams are fighting for the trophy and the rest of them are simply playing into their league. Well , it seems this year won't be different than the previous ones.

Bundesliga has good players but most have the players have been transferred to play in another league, in the Bundesliga I think it is only Bayern Munich that is trying their possible best to have a tough team the way other big clubs from other league are strengthening their squad, the rest teams in the Bundesliga not showing much competition in getting talented players. That's tells the Bundesliga league many not be very competitive in the next season.

the dilemma that exists in the Bundesliga is like that. some good players are published in the Bundesliga. but it doesn't take long they will be transferred to another big club.
Competition in the Bundesliga is not like other leagues such as the EPL. Each club competes to make the best squad and fight for the championship title. But in the Bundesliga, we only see the dominance of Munich.

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Quote from: Velvet78 on July 27, 2022, 05:43:50 PM

Quote from: Pandu Geddon on July 27, 2022, 07:20:08 AM

one of Dortmund's interests after Suarez who won't get a deal is Icardi. if an agreement can be reached, I think it will be quite beneficial for both parties. especially Dortmund who had to find a replacement for their striker who had health problems.
I think Dortmund still have some other options for their front line.

Icardi would really be a nice candidate for filling Haller's place. His performance wasn't much good last season and maybe PSG are also keen on selling him in case there is any team wanting him. However if they sell Icardi then there won't be any substitute left for Mbappe in the team. If they have thought of some alternatives for him already then it isn't a big deal. Icardi is even a better alternative than Suarez actually because he is 28 years old and can play for longer years.

Dortmund have lost Erling Haaland this year, then they bought Sebastien Haller to replace the position left by Haaland. Unfortunately, before
the Bundesliga started, Haller had serious health problems and could not play for a long time. Therefore Dortmund are reportedly looking for
a replacement for Haller. Initially, Luis Suarez, whose contract with Atletico had expired, was considered as a replacement for Haller.
But the problem is that Luis Suarez is 35 years old, which is a risk to buy a player who is 35 years old.

Therefore, other alternative players emerged who could replace Haller, Mauro Icardi who failed to become a regular player at PSG, could be
the right choice for Dortmund to buy. Moreover, Icardi's age is still in his productive age, and also Icardi has a pretty good record when he was
still playing with Inter. Unfortunately when he joined PSG, Icardi rarely gets the chance to play, so it is reported that PSG also included Icardi
in the list of players to be sold. So Dortmund can save Icardi's career and also Icardi can be the best solution for Dortmund. But we'll see
in the next few weeks, is it true that Dortmund are serious about signing Icardi or is it just rumors of Dortmund's interest in Icardi.

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Conte is really pissed from Bayern attitude to talk to media about being interested on Kane. He called that a bit disrespectful and that they should talk directly to Spurs although he consider Kane an important part of the club project.
From what I understood, it appears that Bayern won't get Kane this summer at least.

I think it was already pretty clear before this news that Bayern will not sign Harry Kane this summer. I mean come on Bayern already spent around 110 Million € already for Mane and De Ligt. Today Mathys Tel landed in Munich to do the medical checkup and he will probably sign a contract until 2027 tomorrow. Tel will also cost 28,5 Million € which is a huge amount of money for a 17 year old in my opinion. So Bayern already spent 140 Million € so far while they only got like 55 Million € back for Lewandowski, Marc Roca and Omar Richards. Kane would probably cost at least 80 or 90 Million € because he still has a contract until 2024 and there is no way that Bayern is spending 180 Million € in one transfer period. Bayern is reasonable with their money, unlike Barca.

I was just about to say if the financially broken Barcelona spent a close amount of money as Bayern and still counting to get 1 or 2 other players then why Bayern wouldn't Tongue

Seriously, I agree with you about Bayern being wise on their spending and that was another reason to not be able to bring Kane to the team this season. Oliver Kahn mentioned today that Kane is under contract with Spurs to calm down rumours which means it is the end of the story this season for Kane & Bayern.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on July 27, 2022, 07:20:08 AM

one of Dortmund's interests after Suarez who won't get a deal is Icardi. if an agreement can be reached, I think it will be quite beneficial for both parties. especially Dortmund who had to find a replacement for their striker who had health problems.
I think Dortmund still have some other options for their front line.

Icardi would really be a nice candidate for filling Haller's place. His performance wasn't much good last season and maybe PSG are also keen on selling him in case there is any team wanting him. However if they sell Icardi then there won't be any substitute left for Mbappe in the team. If they have thought of some alternatives for him already then it isn't a big deal. Icardi is even a better alternative than Suarez actually because he is 28 years old and can play for longer years.

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Quote from: Rockstarguy on July 27, 2022, 05:21:23 PM

in the Bundesliga I think it is only Bayern Munich that is trying their possible best to have a tough team the way other big clubs from other league are strengthening their squad, the rest teams in the Bundesliga not showing much competition in getting talented players. That's tells the Bundesliga league many not be very competitive in the next season.

I dont know what you talking about , as with Dortmund , Leipzig , Leverkusen and now Frankfurt there are some good teams that are playing international.
The other teams have done already there homework for getting good and nice players and i guess we will see a more competitive season as the last one.
For sure Bayern Munich have done the most famous transfers for names but that says nothing as other teams made there homework also.
Cant wait that it starts again to see all the new players playing and how they doing.

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Quote from: boltz on July 27, 2022, 04:43:22 AM

Well , like someone said in this thread. With so many important players leaving Bundesliga and with so little transfers being made by "mid-tier" teams , how will Bundesliga increase it's internal performance ? We all know that this is the main problem with Bundesliga right now : The competition is tight just in front when every year only 2 teams are fighting for the trophy and the rest of them are simply playing into their league. Well , it seems this year won't be different than the previous ones.

Bundesliga has good players but most have the players have been transferred to play in another league, in the Bundesliga I think it is only Bayern Munich that is trying their possible best to have a tough team the way other big clubs from other league are strengthening their squad, the rest teams in the Bundesliga not showing much competition in getting talented players. That's tells the Bundesliga league many not be very competitive in the next season.

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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on July 27, 2022, 04:57:56 AM

Quote from: boltz on July 27, 2022, 04:43:22 AM

Well , like someone said in this thread. With so many important players leaving Bundesliga and with so little transfers being made by "mid-tier" teams , how will Bundesliga increase it's internal performance ? We all know that this is the main problem with Bundesliga right now : The competition is tight just in front when every year only 2 teams are fighting for the trophy and the rest of them are simply playing into their league. Well , it seems this year won't be different than the previous ones.

Only 2 teams fighting for the trophy? I don't think so, I prefer to say only one team is running alone and the rest are fighting for the top 2-4 position there.
We know that even though it seems as if it seems like raising Bayern, this is still a fact because in almost the last few seasons there is nothing to say about competition because their points are always far apart.
But maybe there is a slight difference when looking at the runners up to the top 5 teams there is always a difference.

Agreed. Bayern will be champions, so much so that I am willing to wager on +10 point difference for them to win the league. Betting on them is not even available in some sportsbooks, think about how guaranteed it is for them to win that some places declined to put outright bets for them.

When you are sure about it this much, then you wouldn't be considering 2 teams, not dortmund, not leipzig, no other team in the league is even half as good as Bayern right now, it wouldn't even make sense to wager on any other team because I think it would be quite difficult for any other team to win, and doubt anyone would wager much for any other team as well, it would be quite crazy.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on July 27, 2022, 12:36:50 PM

Timo Werner just not good enough for the Premier League. He should leave despite what is saying now. My reason is that I find it quite disturbing that a player who scored a lot of goals in the Bundesliga suddenly can't even score from 5 meters in the Premier League. And I do not think that this is a case of poor performance but one of dependence on his environment and also he does not have the bite to shoot himself out of the crisis and assert himself. Or could it be that he is blinded by the high salary he is receiving in the Premier League?

What is happening to Timo Werner today in England is a clear indication that the English Premier League is more difficult than most of the League, especially the German Bundesliga. I don't think the best ideal now is for Werner to leave rather he should be given more playing time so that he will fully adapt to the EPL pattern and I think he will do better when he has adapted to the English Premier League standard. Warner is a good player but he is yet to prove himself considering his past performance when he was playing for his former club RB Leipzig. Warner will prove himself I believe he will be a key player to the blues next season.

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Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 12:05:47 PM

RB Leipzig wants to bring Timo Werner back to Red Bull Arena but Thomas Tuchel apparently wants to keep him at Chelsea, as he is in his plans. Contrary to previous reports that Tuchel wanted Werner out as he wasn't confidant on him being the main man for Chelsea.

Timo werner didn't get much playing time with chelsea, previously he performed quite well when he was still a RB Leipzig player but when he was with chelsea his performance dropped drastically and was only able to score 9 goals in 51 appearances, I think that the reason from tuchel no longer wants him at Chelsea, if there are rumors that Tuchel will change his mind about Timo Werner now I think that is wrong, because it looks like Tuchel has been disappointed with Timo performance all this time, beside that, now it is very likely that Timo will choose to leave Chelsea even though with loan tranfers.

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Quote from: vennali on July 27, 2022, 12:05:47 PM

RB Leipzig wants to bring Timo Werner back to Red Bull Arena but Thomas Tuchel apparently wants to keep him at Chelsea, as he is in his plans. Contrary to previous reports that Tuchel wanted Werner out as he wasn't confidant on him being the main man for Chelsea.

Timo Werner just not good enough for the Premier League. He should leave despite what is saying now. My reason is that, I find it quite disturbing that a player who scored a lot of goals in the Bundesliga suddenly can't even score from 5 meters in the Premier League. And I do not think that this is a case of poor performance but one of dependence on his environment and also he does not have the bite to shoot himself out of the crisis and assert himself. Or could it be that he is blinded by the high salary he is receiving in the Premier League.

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RB Leipzig wants to bring Timo Werner back to Red Bull Arena but Thomas Tuchel apparently wants to keep him at Chelsea, as he is in his plans. Contrary to previous reports that Tuchel wanted Werner out as he wasn't confidant on him being the main man for Chelsea.

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I think dortmund was very lucky with the emergency option to sign luiz suarez without spending more money as a dowry because he is free from the transfer market. the position of luiz suarez can be a sticker option that is very full of experience even though he is 35 years apart but he is still very worthy of reckoning.

The opportunity to sign Luis Suarez is gone for Dortmund now. Because he has already expressed via his Twitter account that he is signing for Nacional. This is no good news for Dortmund if they really thought of signing him seriously. However it isn't like there are no players left as well. Dortmund can find another striker to fill Haller's place in the team. Considering that they were planning to go for Suarez, I assume that they are in search of an experienced striker this time.

one of Dortmund's interests after Suarez who won't get a deal is Icardi. if an agreement can be reached, I think it will be quite beneficial for both parties. especially Dortmund who had to find a replacement for their striker who had health problems.
I think Dortmund still have some other options for their front line.

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Quote from: rahmad2nd on July 24, 2022, 10:24:37 PM

I think dortmund was very lucky with the emergency option to sign luiz suarez without spending more money as a dowry because he is free from the transfer market. the position of luiz suarez can be a sticker option that is very full of experience even though he is 35 years apart but he is still very worthy of reckoning.

The opportunity to sign Luis Suarez is gone for Dortmund now. Because he has already expressed via his Twitter account that he is signing for Nacional. This is no good news for Dortmund if they really thought of signing him seriously. However it isn't like there are no players left as well. Dortmund can find another striker to fill Haller's place in the team. Considering that they were planning to go for Suarez, I assume that they are in search of an experienced striker this time.

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