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Quote from: Pulsar77 on June 06, 2022, 04:27:44 PM

Actually Dortmund couldn't defeat Bayern Munich in both games in the Bundesliga and lost them both this season. It happened even when Haaland was there. But of course in the absence of Haaland, the team are going to be weaker in attacking. Malen and Moukoko can't contribute as much as him I think. If they don't find a solid alternative to Haaland then even a tougher season might be waiting for Dortmund now. Bayern Munich are likely to dominate another season in short.

I actually expected more this time.
Gnarby and Lewandowski are still not clear there and indeed this is something good for Dortmund.
Even if they can't stop Bayern from winning, at least when Lewandowski isn't there it will definitely hamper Bayern's goal productivity, even though there are still many productive ones there, it's still profitable when Lewandowski isn't around.

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Quote from: Altryist on June 06, 2022, 02:20:26 PM

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It is not really that much shocking to say that Bayern will be champions again. The next best team was Leipzig just a year ago, they got their manager and defender, this year it was Dortmund, which lost Haaland as well, so the upcoming year it will be simple again, whoever gets even a little bit better ends up with losing important pieces which makes things easier for Bayern all over again.

Whereas, Bayern is so rich and well that they are considering selling Lewandowski, the player that should have won ballon d'or, and literally broke the record for the most goals in a season just a year prior, Bayern is THAT good and should definitely win the league.

The dominance of Bayern in the Bundesliga has its drawbacks, this is the lack of competition as such and as a result they win the championship without much effort, it happens simply. The absence of strong competition is reflected negatively in the Euroarena, where strong opponents meet in the way of Bayern, and teams from the Premier League, or from La Liga are constantly hardened with strong rivals. They will be Bundesliga champions again, there is little doubt about that, but how great is Bayern's own joy at this dominance?

I think their joy is not too great for Bayern Munich, as the Bundesliga championship has now become a classic. They predict that they will be champions as the new league season starts. The German league needs a little more competition, I agree, but other teams, including Borussia Dortmund, are not taking steps in this direction. If they don't want to be champions, Bayern will easily win. Even if the league is not difficult, success may be less in Europe.

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Quote from: keyscore44 on June 06, 2022, 04:20:40 PM

I think it is the intention of every team in the world to try to build the best team possible. However, we can see that Bayern's advantage is very large and it is not really known how much money Borussia would have to invest in new players to be able to fight for dominance in the Bundesliga. I think Borussia just prefers to keep their second position in the league safely rather than risking hundreds of millions of euros.

Actually every team wants to get titles but there is some limitations that make Bayern the favourite. They have the best squad and not only based on a player or two and they have the budget.
Dortmund for example, has good players but the team is counting a lot on Haaland making it very unstable when he is off. They have their own strategy, spending but not generously, improving players skills then sell them to make profits... They do want titles but they will not involve in a crazy spending like PSG. They will get it once they have several good players at once.

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on June 06, 2022, 10:15:35 AM

and whether he is the right coach for schalke will probably only be known in december. Wink

I had read in a newspaper headline that the cash register at Schalke were supposed to be pretty empty. I do not know if that is true. But that could be one reason why they chose Frank Kramer.
Anyway, Mike Büskens will be co-coach again. I think he is personally happy with that too.

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Dortmund are going to be the team that I wonder the most in the slowly approaching new season. Because they have lost one of their most important players, Erling Haaland. But they are accustomed to this kind of incidents already. I can even say that their main goal is to find this kind of very talented players and help them grow themselves by showing their quality in one of the big leagues, the Bundesliga. Dortmund already stated that they played without Haaland for so many years and they would do good without him too. We will see how good they will be.

I'm not sure about this, as I know how Dortmund played without Haaland (when got injured). When Haaland is in the squad, Dortmund is going to a club with fierce competition with Munchen in beginning, but after the middle session, the performance is going down when Haaland rests for months. I know how the agent finds new talent, but it needs much time to polish it, maybe not for the next session but in 2 or 3 years from now. but it would be different if they have already transferred a player which has a mature player like Lukaku. So far, Dortmund didn't yet find who can replace Haaland, they just bought a young player with needs to polish it.

Actually Dortmund couldn't defeat Bayern Munich in both games in the Bundesliga and lost them both this season. It happened even when Haaland was there. But of course in the absence of Haaland, the team are going to be weaker in attacking. Malen and Moukoko can't contribute as much as him I think. If they don't find a solid alternative to Haaland then even a tougher season might be waiting for Dortmund now. Bayern Munich are likely to dominate another season in short.

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Quote from: rby on June 05, 2022, 04:01:27 PM

Dortmund should rather concentrate on being the average team they are and sell their star players all. They should stop making us to believe that they will give Bayern a fight soonest. I assure us that nothing new will happen in Bundesliga next season. It is still the same show. The more and more you sell your good players without good replacement doesn't go well with any club.
I wish them success, they are good at producing talents for bigger clubs to sign

Dormund have to minimize the number of talented players they sells out of the team.it really affecting their performance, especially when they fails look for suitable replacement. Indeed, they probably have to build a team strong enough to withstand bigger team. It they want to compete for the Bundesliga. Otherwise, Bayern will continue to achieve the League title every season. Hopefully, Dormund finds a good striker in order to replace Haaland.

I think it is the intention of every team in the world to try to build the best team possible. However, we can see that Bayern's advantage is very large and it is not really known how much money Borussia would have to invest in new players to be able to fight for dominance in the Bundesliga. I think Borussia just prefers to keep their second position in the league safely rather than risking hundreds of millions of euros.

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Quote from: rby on June 05, 2022, 04:01:27 PM

Dortmund should rather concentrate on being the average team they are and sell their star players all. They should stop making us to believe that they will give Bayern a fight soonest. I assure us that nothing new will happen in Bundesliga next season. It is still the same show. The more and more you sell your good players without good replacement doesn't go well with any club.
I wish them success, they are good at producing talents for bigger clubs to sign

Dormund have to minimize the number of talented players they sells out of the team.it really affecting their performance, especially when they fails look for suitable replacement. Indeed, they probably have to build a team strong enough to withstand bigger team. It they want to compete for the Bundesliga. Otherwise, Bayern will continue to achieve the League title every season. Hopefully, Dormund finds a good striker in order to replace Haaland.

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Quote from: Fesatmas on June 06, 2022, 12:19:26 PM

Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 06, 2022, 11:51:44 AM

Dortmund should adjust its defense, it isn't possible to take all that goals in some matches... it's absolutely ridicolous, especially if you want to compete against Bayern, that is a team that more than 1 goal doesn't allow so
much, it isn't so easy to do goals against them.
Hope that soon they will find their new Haaland.

Whatever happens to Bayern Munich, while Borussia Dortmund can't improve their game any more, they will never be able to compete. The main problem is with Borussia Dortmund internally, that's my point.
You said with Lewandowski leaving Dortmund will be able to compete, it doesn't affect Borussia Dortmund if they can't improve.

^ Bayern Munich is the best team in Bundesliga. And we all thought that Dortmund was the main competitor of Bayern Munich for a long time. But suddenly it feels like Dortmund is also not at the same level as Bayern Munich. It feels like Dortmund is at the level of the other teams in the league and they are not at the level to compete with Bayern Munich.

Every time we see Bayern Munich run away with the lake title and we do expect Dortmund to do something about it but they lose points in crucial moments which absolutely eliminates all hope of giving Bayern Munich a good fight. And the main reason for that is they are not improving. They are too much dependent on individual performance instead of team play.

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Quote from: jostorres on June 06, 2022, 01:33:43 PM

It is not really that much shocking to say that Bayern will be champions again. The next best team was Leipzig just a year ago, they got their manager and defender, this year it was Dortmund, which lost Haaland as well, so the upcoming year it will be simple again, whoever gets even a little bit better ends up with losing important pieces which makes things easier for Bayern all over again.

Whereas, Bayern is so rich and well that they are considering selling Lewandowski, the player that should have won ballon d'or, and literally broke the record for the most goals in a season just a year prior, Bayern is THAT good and should definitely win the league.

The dominance of Bayern in the Bundesliga has its drawbacks, this is the lack of competition as such and as a result they win the championship without much effort, it happens simply. The absence of strong competition is reflected negatively in the Euroarena, where strong opponents meet in the way of Bayern, and teams from the Premier League, or from La Liga are constantly hardened with strong rivals. They will be Bundesliga champions again, there is little doubt about that, but how great is Bayern's own joy at this dominance?

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Quote from: Soonandwaite on June 06, 2022, 10:15:35 AM

schalke 04 was promoted to the Bundesliga with mike büskens. he led the team to the top with his co-coach.
Now he's gone again. not quite gone...he's co-coach at schalke 04 again. the new coach is called Frank Kramer.
many german sports news report this today.
whether this news is true will be seen in the next few days. and whether he is the right coach for schalke will probably only be known in december. Wink

Quelle: https://www.n-tv.de/sport/fussball/Aufsteiger-Schalke-mit-ungewoehnlicher-Trainerwahl-article23380108.html

Schalke did really well in this season to get promoted. They got promoted to the Bundesliga and I have been waiting for a long time to see how they will be able to perform in the Bundesliga. I really don't know if this is a very wise decision taken by them. I believe this decision might end up being really questionable if they don't do well in the Bundesliga.

But I think they are trying to get ready for the next season in Bundesliga and they are trying to take every necessary steps to do well and that is why this decision has been taken.

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 05, 2022, 10:21:30 AM

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Yes, I also agree that they should not have a problem finding new young players who will be able to become a good player after some time. I have to say the scouting of Dortmund is really great. But the problem is the management is not and eventually, they will lose that player also to a bigger team which will offer big money for that player. after all that is what we have seen from Dortmund year after year.

It is impossible for Dortmund not to lose the new players. Any young player planning a career leaves Dortmund as soon as they receive better offers. Dortmund should find a pilot team. A team that has prepared good players for Dortmund in the Belgian League may be suitable for them. Because after a period they will have a hard time finding good players.

I believe Dortmund really realizes that what they are doing is just good in terms of money. In terms of the legacy of the team, it is not good at all. They need to build a team that will attract better players. And the team also needs to be completing at the top level of football and just not think about existing at that level.

Quote from: rby on June 05, 2022, 04:01:27 PM

Dortmund should rather concentrate on being the average team they are and sell their star players all. They should stop making us to believe that they will give Bayern a fight soonest. I assure us that nothing new will happen in Bundesliga next season. It is still the same show. The more and more you sell your good players without good replacement doesn't go well with any club.
I wish them success, they are good at producing talents for bigger clubs to sign

What's the point of building up a player who can be a great player potentially and selling them to better teams? I think that is not the way it should be. They should be a team that a player will think about playing for a long time. Any young player who dreams of playing professional football is not going to stay at Dortmund for long. Because to be honest Dortmund is not his dream team.

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Quote from: maju69 on June 06, 2022, 08:31:18 AM

Quote from: Sirait on June 06, 2022, 05:18:30 AM

After making a profit from selling Haaland, this time Dortmund managed to get a pretty good defender, Nico Schlotterbeck. Dortmund's task this time is to find a replacement for Haaland, so they can continue to compete with Bayern. the gap (strength) between bayern and other bundesliga teams is very far and that makes the bundesliga a slightly boring league, much different from the premier league or Italian league.

That's what we all see here. Their difference is far from the dominance of Bayern Munich, which has almost no rivals. In fact I am quite confident in saying they will come out as champions again next season and I think you will agree with that too. 10 years in a row they managed to get it easily without any pressure.

It is not really that much shocking to say that Bayern will be champions again. The next best team was Leipzig just a year ago, they got their manager and defender, this year it was Dortmund, which lost Haaland as well, so the upcoming year it will be simple again, whoever gets even a little bit better ends up with losing important pieces which makes things easier for Bayern all over again.

Whereas, Bayern is so rich and well that they are considering selling Lewandowski, the player that should have won ballon d'or, and literally broke the record for the most goals in a season just a year prior, Bayern is THAT good and should definitely win the league.

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Quote from: KTChampions on June 06, 2022, 01:23:14 PM

In my opinion, the price of 40 million is already quite low and the fact that no one is buying him is a signal that the market is pricing him even lower.
The news reports that Lewandowski has stopped communicating with Bayern representatives and is now only available through his agent (who has a reputation as a rotten negotiator). Extremely strange behavior from Lewandowski, I hope Bayern will put him in his place.

Yes, the price of 40 million is very far from Lewandowski's current capacity, although some people still think it's reasonable considering his age now but I think this is still too cheap if you look at the performance he does and the productivity he has.
On the other hand this is a reckless move from Lewandowski. Pini Zahavi is someone who is indeed an incompetent negotiator in this regard and it could be a huge mistake for Lewa to entrust something like this to him

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Quote from: Ondekinecakabilirim on June 06, 2022, 11:12:07 AM

Quote from: Sirait on June 06, 2022, 05:18:30 AM

After making a profit from selling Haaland, this time Dortmund managed to get a pretty good defender, Nico Schlotterbeck. Dortmund's task this time is to find a replacement for Haaland, so they can continue to compete with Bayern. the gap (strength) between bayern and other bundesliga teams is very far and that makes the bundesliga a slightly boring league, much different from the premier league or Italian league.

They have a very successful football player monitoring committee. They always hit the target with full hits. Every year they present new stars to the football world. I wonder how far they can achieve this. One day they will get stuck and have a hard time finding new star football players. In my opinion, instead of finding new star players, they should try to keep the star players they have in the team.

aubameyang, lewandowski, dembele and the last one is haaland. if Dortmund are able to keep all these star players they sell then i believe dortmund is a team that will dominate the bundesliga. but we can see that Dortmund's way of survival is through player trading. someday maybe they will run out of star players they want to sell. Cheesy

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Quote from: YuginKadoya on June 06, 2022, 03:31:10 AM

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Of course, this is due to age, but nevertheless, his price is quite low and so far no one is ready to pay it. Against this background, Lewandowski's demarches are puzzling.

Today, the President of Bayern said that he did not understand why Lewandowski chose the path of public statements, in addition, he paid many compliments to him and suggested that Lewandowski will play for Bayern next season. Maybe I'm wrong, but this polite speech looks like a veiled ultimatum to Lewandowski.

Well, the Price of Lewandowski is low because Lewandowski will now want to buy his own freedom from Bayern Munich and the Webster Ruling may come up with a sum of 40M euros for Barcelona could avail it, but yeah if it is not what you are talking about I think Lewandowski right now wants his price to be low so Barcelona can truly afford him, but Bayern Minich really wants to set it high so other teams can not be bought Robert Lewandowski out of Bayern Munich, now there is tension inside the club of Bayern Munich, and let's just wait what may happen in the future awaits.

In my opinion, the price of 40 million is already quite low and the fact that no one is buying him is a signal that the market is pricing him even lower.
The news reports that Lewandowski has stopped communicating with Bayern representatives and is now only available through his agent (who has a reputation as a rotten negotiator). Extremely strange behavior from Lewandowski, I hope Bayern will put him in his place.

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Bayern Munich is undoubtedly the best team in the Bundesliga and I think the next season they will still be the champions. But the problem is Robert Lewandowski was a big part of the success that Bayern Munich had. If he is not on the team it will be a little heart for them. But they are thinking about bringing in a replacement for him. But I don't think it will be a very good replacement. At least not at the level of Robert Lewandowski. Let's see how they do under the management of Nagelsmann next season.

The Skill and ability of Robert Lewandowski are not forever he will eventually be wilted and after 6 years or so he can not perform like the same again, and Bayern will surely be needing to find another just like him, but I think the way they are stopping Lewandowski is because Bayern hasn't found any near replacement for Robert Lewandowski yet, but Robert Lewandowski had enough on Bayern's what is he's worth and what he just needs to do, Robert Lewandowski just wants out from Bayern Munich,

Yes, I think it's true. If they had found a good replacement for him I think they wouldn't have even tried to keep him on the team. They just don't want to let him go because they know that there is no other player currently good enough to fill his spot and I think that is the main reason why they are not wanting to let him go.

Robert Lewandowski probably has two or three years maximum in which he will be able to give his full service to a team. After that, he will not be able to perform as well as he is doing right now. So eventually his value will go down a lot. And I think Bayern Munich asked for 50 million from Barcelona because they wanted to make sure that with that money they would be able to buy another really good striker.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on June 06, 2022, 11:51:44 AM

Dortmund should adjust its defense, it isn't possible to take all that goals in some matches... it's absolutely ridicolous, especially if you want to compete against Bayern, that is a team that more than 1 goal doesn't allow so

much, it isn't so easy to do goals against them.

Hope that soon they will find their new Haaland.

Whatever happens to Bayern Munich, while Borussia Dortmund can't improve their game any more, they will never be able to compete. The main problem is with Borussia Dortmund internally, that's my point.
You said with Lewandowski leaving Dortmund will be able to compete, it doesn't affect Borussia Dortmund if they can't improve.

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Quote from: zuzie on June 06, 2022, 08:13:24 AM

If you see the team under munich playing it looks fun and not boring. From 2nd Bundesliga position to European Conference position they are competing this season for the safe position. Like leipzig, they are in a tight race for the UCL seat with union berlin and are only 1 point adrift.
While Freiburg, its position in the European league is threatened by FC Koln
The boring thing is that Bayern Munich continues to be in 1st place, and haven't found a comparable opponent until now

Competition occurs only for Leipzig, Leverkusen Freiburg and Koln at the end of the season, the rest I don't see anything else because indeed for the 1st and 2nd positions this season there is nothing more to say because they are like a package and have not changed from start to finish.
What's interesting in this case is seeing Leipzig's journey because if you look at the start of the season I still don't expect them to be in 4th position

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Quote from: Fesatmas on June 06, 2022, 11:24:03 AM

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I wouldn't be so sure for the next year. You should consider that Bayern Munich will lost Lewandoski, and we should see what they will do and what they will be as his substitute, then, I don't like so much Julian Nagelsmann,

I'm not so convicted from his method of play. So, I guess that Dortmund the next year can compete against the Bayern.

Despite Lewandowski leaving and a different style of play, I still want Borussia Dortmund to be competitive. It doesn't really matter what happens with Bayern Munich, if Dortmund wants a change. Because I can see that Dortmund is more serious in itself, in fact there will be competition. But the problem lies with Borussia Dortmund itself.
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Dortmund should adjust its defense, it isn't possible to take all that goals in some matches... it's absolutely ridicolous, especially if you want to compete against Bayern, that is a team that more than 1 goal doesn't allow so

much, it isn't so easy to do goals against them.

Hope that soon they will find their new Haaland.

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I wouldn't be so sure for the next year. You should consider that Bayern Munich will lost Lewandoski, and we should see what they will do and what they will be as his substitute, then, I don't like so much Julian Nagelsmann,

I'm not so convicted from his method of play. So, I guess that Dortmund the next year can compete against the Bayern.

Despite Lewandowski leaving and a different style of play, I still want Borussia Dortmund to be competitive. It doesn't really matter what happens with Bayern Munich, if Dortmund wants a change. Because I can see that Dortmund is more serious in itself, in fact there will be competition. But the problem lies with Borussia Dortmund itself.

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