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Well , like someone said in this thread. With so many important players leaving Bundesliga and with so little transfers being made by "mid-tier" teams , how will Bundesliga increase it's internal performance ? We all know that this is the main problem with Bundesliga right now : The competition is tight just in front when every year only 2 teams are fighting for the trophy and the rest of them are simply playing into their league. Well , it seems this year won't be different than the previous ones.
I think you need to look back at the journey of the Bundesliga so far, because in the last 10 seasons Muchen has mastered the trophy and there is not even a team that really gives a strong resistance to Munich in winning the title, apart from Munich, there are indeed several strong teams in the Bundesliga but So far, no one is as strong as Bayern Munich, so in the end other teams will only fight for tickets to penetrate the Champions League and European League.
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Of course they are weak. They lost every tournament last year and in most of them they were eliminated not by Bayern at all, but by other much weaker teams. The Champions League, then the Europa League, the German Cup - they failed everywhere. Now that Haaland is gone, it's hard to imagine that they've gotten stronger, right? And this means that in the upcoming season their achievements will hardly be better.
I would say losing all competitions you are in doesn't equal to weak. I mean Fürth lost and didn't get the title, and so did Dortmund, does that make them equals? Or Wolfsburg who had a good start but we all know what happened. Basically what we are talking about something that is "decent enough" and not bad or weak. I believe Dortmund is "weaker" which is something else.~

I highlighted with bold the main part in my statement, I'm surprised you missed it.
So, in the German Cup, Borussia was knocked out by St. Pauli. In the Champions League, they lost to Sporting and Ajax. In the Europa League they were knocked out by Rangers. If you compare these teams with the European tops, it is obvious that these teams are not even close to their level, right? For me, the conclusion is obvious - Borussia is just as far from the top and is a weak team, and after the departure of Haaland it became even weaker.
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Well , like someone said in this thread. With so many important players leaving Bundesliga and with so little transfers being made by "mid-tier" teams , how will Bundesliga increase it's internal performance ? We all know that this is the main problem with Bundesliga right now : The competition is tight just in front when every year only 2 teams are fighting for the trophy and the rest of them are simply playing into their league. Well , it seems this year won't be different than the previous ones.
Only 2 teams fighting for the trophy? I don't think so, I prefer to say only one team is running alone and the rest are fighting for the top 2-4 position there.
We know that even though it seems as if it seems like raising Bayern, this is still a fact because in almost the last few seasons there is nothing to say about competition because their points are always far apart.
But maybe there is a slight difference when looking at the runners up to the top 5 teams there is always a difference.
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Well , like someone said in this thread. With so many important players leaving Bundesliga and with so little transfers being made by "mid-tier" teams , how will Bundesliga increase it's internal performance ? We all know that this is the main problem with Bundesliga right now : The competition is tight just in front when every year only 2 teams are fighting for the trophy and the rest of them are simply playing into their league. Well , it seems this year won't be different than the previous ones.
Only two teams do you think? For me, there is no competition in the title race in the Bundesliga because in truth, the Bundesliga title will only belong to Bayern Munich. The problem is, Bayern Munich still have their key players kept and even, when key players leave then Bayern Munich can buy back great players who are at least of good quality too. Unlike other teams, when their key players leave they don't replace them with players who have good quality too, usually they will make the players they get to be stars in the team and then sell them. This way will not make the team grow stronger, but only increase their own income and not an achievement to win many titles.
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Well , like someone said in this thread. With so many important players leaving Bundesliga and with so little transfers being made by "mid-tier" teams , how will Bundesliga increase it's internal performance ? We all know that this is the main problem with Bundesliga right now : The competition is tight just in front when every year only 2 teams are fighting for the trophy and the rest of them are simply playing into their league. Well , it seems this year won't be different than the previous ones.
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And the next good player will leave the Bundesliga for France. Now it's not the Premier League, which has too much money, now it's Paris SG, who got Nordi Mukiele for 12 million euros, but he has a market value of 20 million euros?! He has probably not found his way in Germany since 2018 and now wanted to return to his home. In Paris, he now also has the strongest club, so it should go perfectly for him.
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Bayern has officially get 17 years old player Mathys Tel from Rennes and seems Bayern attempts to created new Lewandowski because this player position is centre striker but he is very young and last season Mathys Tel hasn't get more minutes to play even his records is 8 play with no goals and Bayern get him 20 millions Euro in my opinion this striker is overpriced especially he has lack of experience playing at high level of competitions and i was wondering why Bayern buy this player because they need experience player on striker position

This is a welcome development to Bayern Munich, because their coach has brought in new young talented strikers that will help the team to win next season trophy.  Bayern Munich will definitely increase higher in the area of striker, because all those new young talented strikers are fully ready to handle their position very well to ensure they make the team great again.  No doubt, Mathys Tel will definitely perform well to make Bayern Munich coach happy for the trust he have for him that he will fit the position to take the team to her next level.
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Bayern has officially get 17 years old player Mathys Tel from Rennes and seems Bayern attempts to created new Lewandowski because this player position is centre striker but he is very young and last season Mathys Tel hasn't get more minutes to play even his records is 8 play with no goals and Bayern get him 20 millions Euro in my opinion this striker is overpriced especially he has lack of experience playing at high level of competitions and i was wondering why Bayern buy this player because they need experience player on striker position
Maybe they believe in their potential, indeed it is too expensive for a player who has minimal contribution to the team but Bayern Munich decided to sign this player although it is still a question why they don't just take an experienced striker. Because if seen, they are very capable of bringing in another classy striker after losing Lewandowski.
Like @bering rightly said Bayern might have seen the possibility of recreating Lewandoski in the 17year old lad. The price used in signing  Mathys Tel  might seem too expensive at the moment but if his potential is well maximized he could be worth more the 20 million Euros in upcoming seasons. Now his contract extends till 2027 which is enough time to groom a better replacement for Lewa because signing a replacement for Lewa at the moment might be an unending quest
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Bayern has officially get 17 years old player Mathys Tel from Rennes and seems Bayern attempts to created new Lewandowski because this player position is centre striker but he is very young and last season Mathys Tel hasn't get more minutes to play even his records is 8 play with no goals and Bayern get him 20 millions Euro in my opinion this striker is overpriced especially he has lack of experience playing at high level of competitions and i was wondering why Bayern buy this player because they need experience player on striker position
Maybe they believe in their potential, indeed it is too expensive for a player who has minimal contribution to the team but Bayern Munich decided to sign this player although it is still a question why they don't just take an experienced striker. Because if seen, they are very capable of bringing in another classy striker after losing Lewandowski.
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Germany SuperCup this weekend and it's also the first test for Bayern without Lewa.

Bayern vs Dortmund is what we are looking at and for me , Dortmund has the first chance as I don't see Bayern going all-in for this trophy even if the fans will want to see them lift another one. For now , we don't even know if important players will play full game or only 20 minutes or so.

Well, I want them to struggle more because with Lewandowski they indeed have a bigger chance of winning, but I think this Bundesliga is pretty much a little competitive so far because some players will also just be playing 1st time with their respective teams, even the new players for Bayern Munich they will surely need to be more familiar for a couple of games first,


By the way there is a possibility for Timo Werner to come back to Leipzig very soon. Because it has been speculated these days that Werner wants to leave Chelsea as soon as possible. He wants to play for a team that he can have a bigger playing time. If they don't sell him on a permanent deal he is likely to be loaned to a team. Among the teams that he can be loaned to, there is Leipzig as well. His times with Leipzig were really great in the past. He was unstoppable about scoring. If he returns Leipzig might have a better season.

That sounds great I really liked Leipzig to bust to the 3rd position last season but yeah Bayer Leverkusen has gotten into them, but if Leipzig has to maintain having a good start last season I think they can make it even the 2nd position but yeah I could not be more optimistic than they can go beyond that because of Bayern Munich,

Dortmund have bigger expectation and hope with Sébastien Haller after deal transfer with Ajax Amsterdam and become replacement for Haaland have sold to Manchester City, but with some unexpected problem faced by Sébastien Haller and until unknow time he can back to field make Dortmund have find new replacement for position leaving by Haaland. Exactly Dortmund don't want to make failed again on UEFA Champion League next season and he need to find new forward and can give more contribution on Bundesliga and Champion League. Not good ideas waiting with Sébastien Haller come back because he still need time and keep waiting to recovery his performance.

All hope seems lost, but maybe if Sebastien Haller can have a quick recovery why not, for now, if they can not make a decision in taking action about this then say goodbye to the championship and even the 2nd position of the Bundesliga is very impossible to achieve, for now, because I could see Bayern Munich, Leipzig, and Bayer Leverkusen pretty much is ready to take on the championship, and I am very interested in what could happen in the next season of the Bundesliga,


Well it is true that finally the season will start again this Saturday with the Super cup, but Bayern is not facing Borussia Dortmund their. They are playing against RB Leipzig. I think the rules are that the Bundesliga champion is playing against the winner of the DFB Pokal there. Of course in recent years it was pretty often the case that Bayern was the Bundesliga champion and the DFB Pokal winner at the same time and in this case they are playing against the team that was on the second position in the Bundesliga which would be Dortmund in this case.
Bayern is the favorite for me even though the cup is not important. They have a lot of new players and therefore competition for the places in the starting eleven.

Correction next Saturday will be the start of the Bundesliga Aug. 6, and the 1st match was Bayern Munich VS Eintracht Frankfurt, I am pretty much excited if what could be the Bayern Munich play will be now that Robert Lewandowski is not on the team, pretty much exited because this could be a more competitive Bundesliga that we deserve,
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Honestly I don't expect much from Borussia Dortmund if they still behave like this (only making money from selling players). Even if there is a statement from them that they want achievement, I will laugh at that. What they need to do now is to improve the team first and not to be too greedy with profits.
Actually they have no intention of selling their star players, but any player whose name has been on the radar of big European teams will find it difficult to refuse requests and players will do anything to get out of the club, but the club certainly doesn't want to lose players for free, and they will hear all incoming offers.
Your all statement is completely opposite of what happening in Borussia Dortmund they are buying youths and then developing them into quality players for having their high profit, and surely it's a big business which is happening here for many years and just because of this Bayern Munich is dominating power in Bundesliga.

Currently, they have two players which are going to be biggest in next few years, and they are going to have millions of euros from their sell as right now Bellingham is under radar of Real Madrid and Liverpool and both already have inquiry about this player, but they are not in hurry about this player they will sell him in next two years with very good amount.

But in this season, first time after selling Haaland they have invested good amount for few quality players but sadly now Haller is ill and out of game for two months, so they are looking for possible replacement but nothing good happening which is going to be trouble for them.
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Bayern has officially get 17 years old player Mathys Tel from Rennes and seems Bayern attempts to created new Lewandowski because this player position is centre striker but he is very young and last season Mathys Tel hasn't get more minutes to play even his records is 8 play with no goals and Bayern get him 20 millions Euro in my opinion this striker is overpriced especially he has lack of experience playing at high level of competitions and i was wondering why Bayern buy this player because they need experience player on striker position
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The match between Dortmund and 1860 Muchen, the match is going to be watched by a lot of people because they wanna know if Dortmund can perform very well without their goal machine Haaland, 1860 Muchen is a very stubborn team that should not be underrated by Dortmund so I think Dortmund needs to do their possible best to play good football and also record a convincing win so that their fans will believe they can perform better without Haaland.
Dortmund is reportedly interested in Dzeko perhaps one of the replacement options with the departure of Haaland. but the news is still just a rumor that developed in the media. there is no agreement between the two parties. but it looks like Dortmund does need some of the players now left out.
This season's competition is very close. I hope Dortmund will provide news regarding its new players shortly. otherwise, it will be difficult to compete with Munich in the League.
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We know the greatness of Mane when he was at Liverpool and this clearly will give high expectations especially in terms of Mane's performance can still be good there.
Even though it is still very difficult for the top scorer when there is Lewandowski in the Bundesliga, Mane's name will still be lifted with some achievements in the Bundesliga next season, I think it can still be done for Mane.

Yes, you are right, for me Mane has a lot to offer and give, I hope that this season he makes one of the plays to which he has us accustomed, however it is as you say Lewa is one of the best, and for me he is the owner of the ballon d'or and not Messi at the time they were competing, so here it is a question of merit.
Now Lewandowski is about to leave Bayern and of course this makes Mane's chance of making a surprise in attack even bigger because after Lewandowski's death now he will indirectly become the ideal targetman for Bayern.
Obviously this is a huge advantage for Mane and I wish him all the best in his first season in the Bundesliga.

Well I think we all expect a lot from Mane, and yes, although Lewa is leaving, I think there is still an important position left, I know Mane is excellent, but I think a CR7 is much more necessary for them to understand each other, I don't know how they will be Bayern's plans, but seeing that things can go so well for a team like this, CR7 would not only shine again as before, but the victories would be monumental, I would love to see Bayern with a CR7 against City, that would be one One of the games that would attract the most attention throughout the Bundesliga and around the world, because people from any corner of the world would want to watch it and bet on it.

Honestly I don't expect much from Borussia Dortmund if they still behave like this (only making money from selling players). Even if there is a statement from them that they want achievement, I will laugh at that. What they need to do now is to improve the team first and not to be too greedy with profits.
Actually they have no intention of selling their star players, but any player whose name has been on the radar of big European teams will find it difficult to refuse requests and players will do anything to get out of the club, but the club certainly doesn't want to lose players for free, and they will hear all incoming offers.

Well, actually for me Haaland was one of the best players that Dortmund had, I would never have let him go, really not, however they received good money, I don't know if Dortumund's intentions are to get out of the stars, not yet I have contemplated that scenario, but I do not imagine that Dortmund will lower their level and run the risk of relegation, I think that above all they want to win the Bundelist, I think that all the teams want to do it, so I do not think that they take such high risks as to jeopardize that ambition.
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Germany Super Cup schedule is Bayern vs Leipzig not against Dortmund this because Bayern as the winner of Bundesliga will fight against Leipzig as DFB Pocal winner and starting lineup weren't published yet but this match is not so important for both of teams even similar to friendly match so i assume they will used some of their reserved players and new players too but for Dortmund they will fight early on Saturday for first round of DFB Pocal against 1860 Muchen and this is the first test too for Dortmund playing without Haaland for new competition

Your analysis is correct about the super cup game involving Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig. The match between the two teams will be taken seriously by the two teams because the winner will be given a trophy and it will be in history that team A defeated team B in the super cup or the B defeated team A as the case may be. The teams may use their new signing to start the game but that doesn't mean that they will not put in their best to make sure that they record good performance in the match.


The match between Dortmund and 1860 Muchen, the match is going to be watched by a lot of people because they wanna know if Dortmund can perform very well without their goal machine Haaland, 1860 Muchen is a very stubborn team that should not be underrated by Dortmund so I think Dortmund needs to do their possible best to play good football and also record a convincing win so that their fans will believe they can perform better without Haaland.
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If Haaland wanted to remain in Dortmund the club will not sell him to Manchester City, i know he was contracted to them, but the boy had already explained his position to the club, telling them that he wants to go, it will go against the club's interest to hold down a player that wants to go, Dortmund could do that and have a player that is unhappy, who doesn't show any enthusiasm in the locker room, it might even affect the player's form, and Dortmund will gain nothing if that happens, they might even end up selling the player cheaper than they may have sold him before. I like the club's belief, they will keep just the players that want to stay.
If Dortmund keep Haaland until his contract expires it is certain that he cannot perform with such dedication, maybe his performance will decrease because he is not fully with Dortmund. But this has never happened at Dortmund, reflecting on last season's Jadon Sancho was also sold to Manchester United while still under contract with the next few seasons.

Dortmund is a typical club that prioritizes profits and business, if players are demanded by other clubs at a high enough price, they do not hesitate to increase the duration of the contract for their players, immediately take the initiative to sell and look for other alternatives and can earn big profits in the future.
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Of course they are weak. They lost every tournament last year and in most of them they were eliminated not by Bayern at all, but by other much weaker teams. The Champions League, then the Europa League, the German Cup - they failed everywhere. Now that Haaland is gone, it's hard to imagine that they've gotten stronger, right? And this means that in the upcoming season their achievements will hardly be better.
I would say losing all competitions you are in doesn't equal to weak. I mean Fürth lost and didn't get the title, and so did Dortmund, does that make them equals? Or Wolfsburg who had a good start but we all know what happened. Basically what we are talking about something that is "decent enough" and not bad or weak. I believe Dortmund is "weaker" which is something else.

I think top 5 would be decent enough and we would be doing better right now. I know people are expecting them to be so much worse but I believe that top 5 is more than enough, why would they need something else? So all in all I think it is reasonable to expect them to have a situation where it would make sense, and I would guess that it would take a while before they could make some more transfers and maybe get another player who would be awesome.
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Every season dortmund continues to create star players but none of these players last long in dortmund, maybe dortmund has no intention of selling these players but actually dortmund has full control to sell or not these players, I don't think if dortmund will reject every offer that comes in to its players if it really benefits them from a financial point of view and in fact dortmund does not try to keep the player at all costs if indeed they have no intention of selling him at all, as happened to haalaand, I think haalaand has a contract until 2024 with dortmund and if dortmund don't want to sell it of course manchester city can't do anything at all but the fact is when manchester city offers a lot of money doesn't dortmund accept it right away?
If Haaland wanted to remain in Dortmund the club will not sell him to Manchester City, i know he was contracted to them, but the boy had already explained his position to the club, telling them that he wants to go, it will go against the club's interest to hold down a player that wants to go, Dortmund could do that and have a player that is unhappy, who doesn't show any enthusiasm in the locker room, it might even affect the player's form, and Dortmund will gain nothing if that happens, they might even end up selling the player cheaper than they may have sold him before. I like the club's belief, they will keep just the players that want to stay.
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Honestly I don't expect much from Borussia Dortmund if they still behave like this (only making money from selling players). Even if there is a statement from them that they want achievement, I will laugh at that. What they need to do now is to improve the team first and not to be too greedy with profits.
Actually they have no intention of selling their star players, but any player whose name has been on the radar of big European teams will find it difficult to refuse requests and players will do anything to get out of the club, but the club certainly doesn't want to lose players for free, and they will hear all incoming offers.
Every season dortmund continues to create star players but none of these players last long in dortmund, maybe dortmund has no intention of selling these players but actually dortmund has full control to sell or not these players, I don't think if dortmund will reject every offer that comes in to its players if it really benefits them from a financial point of view and in fact dortmund does not try to keep the player at all costs if indeed they have no intention of selling him at all, as happened to haalaand, I think haalaand has a contract until 2024 with dortmund and if dortmund don't want to sell it of course manchester city can't do anything at all but the fact is when manchester city offers a lot of money doesn't dortmund accept it right away?
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Honestly I don't expect much from Borussia Dortmund if they still behave like this (only making money from selling players). Even if there is a statement from them that they want achievement, I will laugh at that. What they need to do now is to improve the team first and not to be too greedy with profits.
Actually they have no intention of selling their star players, but any player whose name has been on the radar of big European teams will find it difficult to refuse requests and players will do anything to get out of the club, but the club certainly doesn't want to lose players for free, and they will hear all incoming offers.
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