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Quote from: poldanmig on September 08, 2021, 01:58:10 PM

it's true that last season bayern munchen, dortmund and leipzig continued to compete to become champions, but in the end the victory remained with bayern munchen, honestly I see that this season leipzig will not be a competitor in the race for the title because in fact I see leipzig's condition is very bad after left by Julian Nagelsmann and also several players and even two former core leipzig now playing with bayern munchen, if you say leipzig is now in stable condition, look at the current bundesliga standings and leipzig are in 10th place with only 1 win and 2 defeats in 3 games.

Quote from: kro55 on September 09, 2021, 05:31:10 AM

I want the Bundesliga to reduce Bayern Munich's dominance. Ever since I started watching the Bundesliga, I have never seen a team other than Bayern Munich win the title. I want a new team to win the title. Dortmund, Leverkusen or Leipzig Whoever wins the title I will be happy. However, Dortmund have formed a stable team this season, they have a chance to win the title.

Since 1970 bayern munchen has become the ruler of german football, so it is very unlikely that any other club can stop their dominance and even dortmund which is the second biggest club in germany has tried repeatedly but always failed so far, besides dortmund in my opinion Bayern Munich has no tougher competitors in bundesliga .

Quote from: DU18 on September 09, 2021, 06:36:46 AM

Bayern is the fourth richest club in Europe after PSG, Barcelona and Real Madrid so it is very easy for them to buy the best players in their rival clubs so far, and of course it will make their competitors even weaker after losing their core players, for example when Bayern the last time they failed to win the German league was in 2011/2012 when Jurgen Klopp was still coaching Dortmund and won his second successive title, but after that failure Bayern immediately bought Mario Goetze in 2013 and that made Bayern again dominate the bundesliga, I think bayern dominance will continue if none of the competing clubs are really rich and able to beat Bayern financially at this time.

The finances owned by Bayern Munich are one of the mainstay weapons to be able to dominate the Bundesliga, and so far I don't even think there is another team in the Bundeliga that has the same wealth as that of Bayern Munich, so surely the dominance of Bayern Munich will probably continue for the next few years

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In this season, the number one contender for the title is of course Bayern Munich again. They will prove this completely after playing against their toughest opponents in the league. The question is about whether some other teams will be able to compete with Bayern Munich for the title till the end. This time, Leipzig may not have a similar season to the last one as they lost their manager Nagelsmann to Bayern also. But teams like Dortmund, Leverkusen and Wolfsburg may be able to do this. Especially, Dortmund have a bigger chance among them.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 09, 2021, 05:31:10 AM

Quote from: poldanmig on September 08, 2021, 01:58:10 PM

it's true that last season bayern munchen, dortmund and leipzig continued to compete to become champions, but in the end the victory remained with bayern munchen, honestly I see that this season leipzig will not be a competitor in the race for the title because in fact I see leipzig's condition is very bad after left by Julian Nagelsmann and also several players and even two former core leipzig now playing with bayern munchen, if you say leipzig is now in stable condition, look at the current bundesliga standings and leipzig are in 10th place with only 1 win and 2 defeats in 3 games.

I want the Bundesliga to reduce Bayern Munich's dominance. Ever since I started watching the Bundesliga, I have never seen a team other than Bayern Munich win the title. I want a new team to win the title. Dortmund, Leverkusen or Leipzig Whoever wins the title I will be happy. However, Dortmund have formed a stable team this season, they have a chance to win the title.

Bayern is the fourth richest club in Europe after PSG, Barcelona and Real Madrid so it is very easy for them to buy the best players in their rival clubs so far, and of course it will make their competitors even weaker after losing their core players, for example when Bayern the last time they failed to win the German league was in 2011/2012 when Jurgen Klopp was still coaching Dortmund and won his second successive title, but after that failure Bayern immediately bought Mario Goetze in 2013 and that made Bayern again dominate the bundesliga, I think bayern dominance will continue if none of the competing clubs are really rich and able to beat Bayern financially at this time.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 09, 2021, 05:31:10 AM

I want the Bundesliga to reduce Bayern Munich's dominance. Ever since I started watching the Bundesliga, I have never seen a team other than Bayern Munich win the title. I want a new team to win the title. Dortmund, Leverkusen or Leipzig Whoever wins the title I will be happy. However, Dortmund have formed a stable team this season, they have a chance to win the title.

They have a pretty "stable team" every season, but they never win titles. It's Dortmund, you know? Wink

But yes you are right. For the excitement in the Bundesliga, it would make sense if another team from FC Bayern München win the championship. At the moment, I only see RB Leipzig and Borussia Dortmund as serious contenders. Despite the good start, VFL Wolfsburg and Bayer Leverkusen are probably too inconsistent to compete for the title in the end.

It will depend a lot on whether RB Leipzig and Borussia Dortmund again drop important points against supposedly weaker opponents, as they did last season. FC Bayern will probably play another strong season. Accordingly, the other teams will only become Bundesliga champion if they go for 100% in every game and do not underestimate the weaker opponents.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 08, 2021, 01:58:10 PM

it's true that last season bayern munchen, dortmund and leipzig continued to compete to become champions, but in the end the victory remained with bayern munchen, honestly I see that this season leipzig will not be a competitor in the race for the title because in fact I see leipzig's condition is very bad after left by Julian Nagelsmann and also several players and even two former core leipzig now playing with bayern munchen, if you say leipzig is now in stable condition, look at the current bundesliga standings and leipzig are in 10th place with only 1 win and 2 defeats in 3 games.

I want the Bundesliga to reduce Bayern Munich's dominance. Ever since I started watching the Bundesliga, I have never seen a team other than Bayern Munich win the title. I want a new team to win the title. Dortmund, Leverkusen or Leipzig Whoever wins the title I will be happy. However, Dortmund have formed a stable team this season, they have a chance to win the title.

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Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

Right now only dortmund is the only club that is the strongest competitor to Bayern munich in the bundesliga, while other clubs i think they will not be able to tackle the domination of bayern munich now, even in the last few years Dortmund want to stop the domination of bayern munchen in the bundesliga but it still failed because indeed bayern munich was supported by a large and strong financial power.

even so I think for the current season Dortmund is still not strong enough to beat the domination of bayern considering now bayern players are getting better and better especially with the arrival of 2 mainstay players from Leipzig adding to the strength and dominance of bayern in the current season.
and it's true for the other teams I think there is no hope anymore.
And now Leipzig's dark horse I think it will be very difficult to navigate the season because there are indeed many core players from Leipzig who leave and this I think is a blunder for Leipzig.

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Quote from: BuNga_cute on September 07, 2021, 05:23:28 PM

Actually Bayern's finances are not as big as PSG or Man City, but Bayern does have very good management. They are able to buy the players they need with not too big an expense, even players from other teams in the Bundesliga are often bought by Bayern. Like Marcel Sabitzer and Dayot Upamecano who were bought from Leipzig, even Bayern managed to bring in Julian Nagelsmann as coach from Leipzig as well. No wonder the Bundesliga has always been dominated by Bayern, even with good management Bayern can become one of the best European teams.

Bayern doesn't need as much money as PSG or City, they just need more money than everyone else in the Bundesliga, so whenever a star comes up in some other team they end up getting that player. Of course if someone is way too good, even too good for Bayern (like Haaland for example) then other clubs in the world end up chasing that player as well.

So, long story short they end up with players from other clubs and they just build a good roster easily. Obviously management plays a big role in this, they could have made horrible decisions and ruin the club as well, look at Barcelona, they got out of the best decade they had and then moved right into the worst one, which is why Bayern is definitely a good management compared to clubs like that, but that doesn't change the fact that money plays a big role in that, without money they couldn't be this great.

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Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

Right now only dortmund is the only club that is the strongest competitor to Bayern munich in the bundesliga, while other clubs i think they will not be able to tackle the domination of bayern munich now, even in the last few years Dortmund want to stop the domination of bayern munchen in the bundesliga but it still failed because indeed bayern munich was supported by a large and strong financial power.

The previous season, RB had a great performance in Leipzig. If they hadn't lost form at the end of the season, Bayer Munich would have struggled to win the title. Dortmund, on the other hand, showed remarkable performances at the end of the season. Maybe Leipzig will fight for the title this season. Their team is stable enough.

it's true that last season bayern munchen, dortmund and leipzig continued to compete to become champions, but in the end the victory remained with bayern munchen, honestly I see that this season leipzig will not be a competitor in the race for the title because in fact I see leipzig's condition is very bad after left by Julian Nagelsmann and also several players and even two former core leipzig now playing with bayern munchen, if you say leipzig is now in stable condition, look at the current bundesliga standings and leipzig are in 10th place with only 1 win and 2 defeats in 3 games.

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Quote from: CryptoBuds on September 07, 2021, 07:48:37 AM

Like seriously!!!!!! Do you know what Bundesliga is? Have you ever watched a Bundesliga match? How do you find the Bundesliga boring? Strong teams like Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Leipzig are here. Leverkusen and Wolfsburg are also strong enough. I really don't understand how the Bundesliga can seem boring to anyone despite having so many good teams. Please watch Bundesliga matches, then write in this thread.

If you are a Munchen fan I think it will be very nice. They were able to dominate the championship title. But for fans of other clubs it might be very boring. I was a little interested when Halaand appeared in Dortmund, then Leipzig, who was able to compete in the UCL semifinals. Dortmund's tradition of always selling star players to Munchen seems to support the Domination. Dortmund seemed to be a good supply of players for Munchen a few years ago.

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Quote from: kro55 on September 08, 2021, 12:06:52 PM

The previous season, RB had a great performance in Leipzig. If they hadn't lost form at the end of the season, Bayer Munich would have struggled to win the title. Dortmund, on the other hand, showed remarkable performances at the end of the season. Maybe Leipzig will fight for the title this season. Their team is stable enough.

It is true what you are saying and last season it was definitely possible for clubs like Dortmund or Leipzig to be in front of Bayern Munich if they would have managed to show their best performance, or at least close to that, during the whole season. That did not happen though and Bayern managed to win the title again even though they did not perform that well themself, at least compared to their own standards.
So Bayern needs to struggle a little in the Bundesliga and the other clubs need to show their very best just to have a chance to win the bundesliga title, which also means that, if Bayern is able to perform at their highest level or at least at 80% or so, they will win the Bundesliga title.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 08, 2021, 10:42:16 AM

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 07, 2021, 05:28:35 AM

Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

Right now only dortmund is the only club that is the strongest competitor to Bayern munich in the bundesliga, while other clubs i think they will not be able to tackle the domination of bayern munich now, even in the last few years Dortmund want to stop the domination of bayern munchen in the bundesliga but it still failed because indeed bayern munich was supported by a large and strong financial power.

The previous season, RB had a great performance in Leipzig. If they hadn't lost form at the end of the season, Bayer Munich would have struggled to win the title. Dortmund, on the other hand, showed remarkable performances at the end of the season. Maybe Leipzig will fight for the title this season. Their team is stable enough.

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Quote from: Zilon on September 08, 2021, 10:54:53 AM

Even dortmund isn't strong enough to contend with Bayern Munich it would still be a straight win maybe with lesser goal difference as compared to other clubs. I think Bayern Munich like @poldanmig stated can afford to buy any player and have good team management. It's not enough to have a good squad managing your team is even more important than having the best players lined up

Well, a huge possibility that Bayern will win against Dortmund is given, but if Erling Haaland will be there versus Robert Lewandowski, so this will be a war against MVP players for both teams, but there is still a huge advantage for Bayern winning this but I think the score will be 3 - 1 or 3 - 2 Bayern winning,

But for now, they still need to prepare first for Leverkusen on Sept. 11 and still, Leverkusen is still a hard opponent to come by and they don't want to underestimate it on Sept 11, again if they win against Leverkusen they will surely maintain their standing and hope for the best.

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Quote from: poldanmig on September 08, 2021, 10:42:16 AM

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 07, 2021, 05:28:35 AM

Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

Right now only dortmund is the only club that is the strongest competitor to Bayern munich in the bundesliga, while other clubs i think they will not be able to tackle the domination of bayern munich now, even in the last few years Dortmund want to stop the domination of bayern munchen in the bundesliga but it still failed because indeed bayern munich was supported by a large and strong financial power.

Actually teams like Wolfsburg, Leipzig and Leverkusen might also compete for the title. But I don't how much likely they can maintain a really good form till the last week. In terms of squad, Dortmund are the second best now to me. They just need to be consistent in their games. In the last season, they lost too many points easily. Normally, they have the capacity to compete with Bayern Munich. But it is really hard for them to win the title while Bayern are still this good.

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Even dortmund isn't strong enough to contend with Bayern Munich it would still be a straight win maybe with lesser goal difference as compared to other clubs. I think Bayern Munich like @poldanmig stated can afford to buy any player and have good team management. It's not enough to have a good squad managing your team is even more important than having the best players lined up

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 07, 2021, 05:28:35 AM

Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

Right now only dortmund is the only club that is the strongest competitor to Bayern munich in the bundesliga, while other clubs i think they will not be able to tackle the domination of bayern munich now, even in the last few years Dortmund want to stop the domination of bayern munchen in the bundesliga but it still failed because indeed bayern munich was supported by a large and strong financial power.

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Quote from: DU18 on September 08, 2021, 09:07:14 AM

Quote from: Spack17 on September 07, 2021, 05:28:35 AM

Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

Strong finances are certainly the main factor that makes the Bayern Munich squad really great today, we can see how the team changes quite drastically when they get big financial support from their owners and sponsors.

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It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

I totally agree, right now the strength of a football club really depends on how much finance they have to fix the club, a real example this season is Madrid, which are currently experiencing financial problems, so they don't buy players and only sell players in the transfer market this season.

Indeed, money can change and improve a team for the better, but not all teams can consistently even though they have money and vice versa. At least outside the Bundesliga there are many teams that have good finances and can afford to buy some star players, but the fact is the management they have is not worth the money that has been spent. For me, teams that have money or not still have the same chance of being dominant for at least one season, and it depends on the exact management and coach.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 07, 2021, 05:28:35 AM

Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

Strong finances are certainly the main factor that makes the Bayern Munich squad really great today, we can see how the team changes quite drastically when they get big financial support from their owners and sponsors.

Quote from: bct_ail on September 07, 2021, 03:50:45 PM

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

I totally agree, right now the strength of a football club really depends on how much finance they have to fix the club, a real example this season is Madrid, which are currently experiencing financial problems, so they don't buy players and only sell players in the transfer market this season.

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Leverkusen lost their power as top three clubs in Bundesliga and in past few season, Leipzig replaced Leverkusen position. Leipzig started to lose their best players to big clubs and I guess in near future, they will struggle to hold their position as the third best club in Bundesliga.

Leverkusen might come back to the third. Anyway I fail to see any of them can become real competitor to Bayern for Bundesliga title. Bayern are too strong in Germany.

Dormund, what will they have after they lose Haaland? Haaland will very probably to leave Dortmund and even with him, they can not fight with Bayern. So without him, I can not imagine how easily the race to the title will become for Bayern.

Bayern, as always, will try to make a good lead over their rivals in the championship, so that they can comfortably play the playoffs in the Champions League. Then it will be possible to look at the games of the championship, on the eve of decisive matches in the Champions League, Bayern can simply play them to half the strength, give the main players have a rest before important matches. As for Borussia, I agree with you, with or without Haaland, but Borussia will not be able to compete with Bayern in the fight for the championship in the Bundesliga.

I don't see a team in the Bundesliga that can compete with Bayern in the championship. Neither Borussia Dortmund nor any other team. We can only debate who will be second. If they rests his key players before the Champions League games, maybe the opposing team can score points. Points earned from Bayern are very important for the League standings.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 08, 2021, 05:57:53 AM

Leipzig are going to play a home match vs Bayern Munich in three days. Before the Champions League matches start, both of these teams would like to get a satisfying result here. Bayern Munich are of course one step ahead. Lewandowski is in superb form that he scored 5 goals in 3 matches so far. And he still continues to score at his national team also. Leipzig must be well-prepared otherwise they have no chance in this. In my opinion, Bayern Munich may win by one goal here.

Although Bavaria is the favorite in this match, the bookmakers give good chances to Leipzig:
2,95 - 3,80 - 2,29
It turns out that in this match the chances of the opponents are approximately equal, and your prediction that the match will end with a difference of one goal is quite justified.

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It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

But there is key difference to other wealthy clubs in Europe. FC Bayern does not have a major financial backer pumping vast sums of euros into the club. The current success of FC Bayern is based on good work, experience and the right decisions in the past.

What prevents the other Bundesliga teams from doing just as well and making the right decisions? The decline of many traditional clubs such as Werder Bremen, Schalke 04 or Hamburger SV is the best example that money alone is not a decisive factor. The right decisions have to be made. If this does not happen, the downfall is guaranteed despite a lot of money.

Everything has to be right for sporting success. But for that you also need money. And if the players go to Bayern because of the money, you also need money as a club. But Bayern also offers better prospects in terms of playing. Participation in the Champignos League, for example. Which other clubs without a lot of money can do that? And how many players have said no to Bayern so far and stayed with their club from start to finish to help their club get to the top as well?

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