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Quote from: hd49728 on September 07, 2021, 09:11:48 AM

Leverkusen lost their power as top three clubs in Bundesliga and in past few season, Leipzig replaced Leverkusen position. Leipzig started to lose their best players to big clubs and I guess in near future, they will struggle to hold their position as the third best club in Bundesliga.

Leverkusen might come back to the third. Anyway I fail to see any of them can become real competitor to Bayern for Bundesliga title. Bayern are too strong in Germany.

Dormund, what will they have after they lose Haaland? Haaland will very probably to leave Dortmund and even with him, they can not fight with Bayern. So without him, I can not imagine how easily the race to the title will become for Bayern.

Bayern, as always, will try to make a good lead over their rivals in the championship, so that they can comfortably play the playoffs in the Champions League. Then it will be possible to look at the games of the championship, on the eve of decisive matches in the Champions League, Bayern can simply play them to half the strength, give the main players have a rest before important matches. As for Borussia, I agree with you, with or without Haaland, but Borussia will not be able to compete with Bayern in the fight for the championship in the Bundesliga.

I don't see a team in the Bundesliga that can compete with Bayern in the championship. Neither Borussia Dortmund nor any other team. We can only debate who will be second. If they rests his key players before the Champions League games, maybe the opposing team can score points. Points earned from Bayern are very important for the League standings.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 08, 2021, 05:57:53 AM

Leipzig are going to play a home match vs Bayern Munich in three days. Before the Champions League matches start, both of these teams would like to get a satisfying result here. Bayern Munich are of course one step ahead. Lewandowski is in superb form that he scored 5 goals in 3 matches so far. And he still continues to score at his national team also. Leipzig must be well-prepared otherwise they have no chance in this. In my opinion, Bayern Munich may win by one goal here.

Although Bavaria is the favorite in this match, the bookmakers give good chances to Leipzig:
2,95 - 3,80 - 2,29
It turns out that in this match the chances of the opponents are approximately equal, and your prediction that the match will end with a difference of one goal is quite justified.

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It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

But there is key difference to other wealthy clubs in Europe. FC Bayern does not have a major financial backer pumping vast sums of euros into the club. The current success of FC Bayern is based on good work, experience and the right decisions in the past.

What prevents the other Bundesliga teams from doing just as well and making the right decisions? The decline of many traditional clubs such as Werder Bremen, Schalke 04 or Hamburger SV is the best example that money alone is not a decisive factor. The right decisions have to be made. If this does not happen, the downfall is guaranteed despite a lot of money.

Everything has to be right for sporting success. But for that you also need money. And if the players go to Bayern because of the money, you also need money as a club. But Bayern also offers better prospects in terms of playing. Participation in the Champignos League, for example. Which other clubs without a lot of money can do that? And how many players have said no to Bayern so far and stayed with their club from start to finish to help their club get to the top as well?

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Leipzig are going to play a home match vs Bayern Munich in three days. Before the Champions League matches start, both of these teams would like to get a satisfying result here. Bayern Munich are of course one step ahead. Lewandowski is in superb form that he scored 5 goals in 3 matches so far. And he still continues to score at his national team also. Leipzig must be well-prepared otherwise they have no chance in this. In my opinion, Bayern Munich may win by one goal here.

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Quote from: bct_ail on September 07, 2021, 03:50:45 PM

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

But there is key difference to other wealthy clubs in Europe. FC Bayern does not have a major financial backer pumping vast sums of euros into the club. The current success of FC Bayern is based on good work, experience and the right decisions in the past.

What prevents the other Bundesliga teams from doing just as well and making the right decisions? The decline of many traditional clubs such as Werder Bremen, Schalke 04 or Hamburger SV is the best example that money alone is not a decisive factor. The right decisions have to be made. If this does not happen, the downfall is guaranteed despite a lot of money.

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Quote from: Kusman on September 07, 2021, 04:39:25 PM

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Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

It is true. It is like they are printing money that they can buy whatever player they want as long as the player wants to go there also. They did this many times especially against Dortmund before. Grin

For example, Lewandowski was a Dortmund player but Bayern Munich got him even on a free transfer. This might be the biggest and most advantageous deal for them. And they will always have this power as long as they are under a good management.

Actually Bayern's finances are not as big as PSG or Man City, but Bayern does have very good management. They are able to buy the players they
need with not too big an expense, even players from other teams in the Bundesliga are often bought by Bayern. Like Marcel Sabitzer and
Dayot Upamecano who were bought from Leipzig, even Bayern managed to bring in Julian Nagelsmann as coach from Leipzig as well. No wonder
the Bundesliga has always been dominated by Bayern, even with good management Bayern can become one of the best European teams.

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Quote from: bct_ail on September 07, 2021, 03:50:45 PM

Quote from: Spack17 on September 07, 2021, 05:28:35 AM

Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

It is true. It is like they are printing money that they can buy whatever player they want as long as the player wants to go there also. They did this many times especially against Dortmund before. Grin

For example, Lewandowski was a Dortmund player but Bayern Munich got him even on a free transfer. This might be the biggest and most advantageous deal for them. And they will always have this power as long as they are under a good management.

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Quote from: Spack17 on September 07, 2021, 05:28:35 AM

Bayern Munich have the most qualified squad in the league and they benefit from this situation every year.

It is not just that they have the most qualified players. Bayern Munich has so much money that they buy the good players from the other clubs in time. This makes it more difficult for other clubs to build a good team.

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Quote from: Joy_learns_crypto on September 07, 2021, 05:51:18 AM

Bundesliga is to me the most boring league to follow, no competition.
I really wish teams like Leipzig, Lille or Dortmund can get stronger to compete with them.

Dont know what kind of Bundesliga you have watched or seen lately , but the last 2 years the German league isnt anymore boring !
It was the years before for sure with Bayern Munich always won the most , but the last years there are teams growing that can beat them now.
For sure Bayern Munich is still a good and the top team , but others getting better also and they have the power to beat them.

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Bundesliga is to me the most boring league to follow, no competition.
I really wish teams like Leipzig, Lille or Dortmund can get stronger to compete with them.

Like seriously!!!!!! Do you know what Bundesliga is? Have you ever watched a Bundesliga match? How do you find the Bundesliga boring? Strong teams like Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Leipzig are here. Leverkusen and Wolfsburg are also strong enough. I really don't understand how the Bundesliga can seem boring to anyone despite having so many good teams. Please watch Bundesliga matches, then write in this thread.

I can guess the user you reply to his post isn't German neither a European. Although, almost all the world love the Bundesliga. I can't understand what he did mean by that Leipzig, Lille or Dortmund can get stronger to compete with, with whom ??
He might compare it to some other great championships and think that some others are better or just less bored. Personally, i would choose watching a matche in Spanich championship instead of any other competition even the WorldCup itself, but this doesn't mean, by any sense, that those championships are boring.
It's an exageration to call "Boring" the Bundesliga, but maybe some just see it from another perspective or prefer watching local matches .

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We have four days left for the Leverkusen - Dortmund game in the league. This is one of the huge games of the season considering their form lately and their squad quality. Both teams to score option seems quite reasonable for me now. Because I see that both of these teams can score goals quite easily so far. Leverkusen seem like they won't let Dortmund get a win in this game. They can benefit from playing home and get at least a draw here. But I'm sure that Dortmund will also do their best to win this game.

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Quote from: OcTradism on September 07, 2021, 01:03:40 AM

Haaland is goal productive and he is a new goal machine after Ronaldo, Messi, Ibrahimovic and Lewandowski. It is not a guarantee that he will be able to score in all matches he plays. Leverkusen is not a weak opponent so your prediction can be wrong.

If the next opponent of Dortmund is not Leverkusen, I would have more belief that Haaland will score but the fact is Leverkusen, not another.

Ronald or Messi did not score every single game they played neither, they had plenty of games without a goal, but they had plenty of games with multiple goals as well. You do not go to a game and say "this will be the game Ronaldo will not score", it just happens and the odds say that it will be rare but it will happen. Same here with Haaland, you do not go to any game and assume he won't score, you assume he will score, but at the end of the day if he scores then it is as expected.

Leverkusen may not be a horrible team, but this kid scored against Bayern, and that is as high as it gets in Germany. It means that we should not be shocked if he ends up scoring against Leverkusen as well.

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Bayern Munich has turned other teams in bundesliga into their academy, They buy any developed player from these clubs at cheaper price, where as teams from other leagues can't get these players if they must get the players, they will pay heavily for it

Bundesliga is to me the most boring league to follow, no competition.
I really wish teams like Leipzig, Lille or Dortmund can get stronger to compete with them.

yes, that's your opinion, but I'm sure you said that only from a small percentage in the league, you only see the dominance of bayern without seeing the other teams play.
You only look down on your eyes when you say that and I'll bet you don't know the teams that are in the Bundesliga right now apart from Bayern, Dortmund and Leipzig.
Actually, there are many advantages of the Bundesliga which can even be used as an example by other leagues, for example, the Bundesliga has a 50 + 1 rule, which means that supporters must have a majority stake in the club. No private party can own the club in full.
This makes supporters have a role to participate in determining the direction of the club they support. Supporters also have a voice in making important decisions at the club.
in the sense that it is not only certain people who have the right in club decisions but here the supporters also have the right to determine.

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The champion of the past Bundesliga season, FC Bayern München was once more awared with another trophy. This time FC Bayern has been awared with the first ever ECA Chairman's Award.

Quote from: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1435258157257920516

Bayern have been awarded the first ever ECA Chairman's Award 'for the club's outstanding contributions to European club football in 2021 - including winning both men's and women's domestic titles'

Dr. Michael Gerlinger received the award from the ECA chairman Nasser Al-Khelaifi

Source: https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/1435258157257920516

Congratulations again to the men's and women's team of FC Bayern! It will be pretty hard, but let's see if they can do it again this season.

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Quote from: hd49728 on September 07, 2021, 09:11:48 AM

Leverkusen lost their power as top three clubs in Bundesliga and in past few season, Leipzig replaced Leverkusen position. Leipzig started to lose their best players to big clubs and I guess in near future, they will struggle to hold their position as the third best club in Bundesliga.

Leverkusen might come back to the third. Anyway I fail to see any of them can become real competitor to Bayern for Bundesliga title. Bayern are too strong in Germany.

Dormund, what will they have after they lose Haaland? Haaland will very probably to leave Dortmund and even with him, they can not fight with Bayern. So without him, I can not imagine how easily the race to the title will become for Bayern.

Bayern, as always, will try to make a good lead over their rivals in the championship, so that they can comfortably play the playoffs in the Champions League. Then it will be possible to look at the games of the championship, on the eve of decisive matches in the Champions League, Bayern can simply play them to half the strength, give the main players have a rest before important matches. As for Borussia, I agree with you, with or without Haaland, but Borussia will not be able to compete with Bayern in the fight for the championship in the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: blackened515 on September 05, 2021, 09:29:48 PM

Bundesliga have been boring to me because Bayern Munich is also winning the League trophy and it seems no other club in the Bundesliga can compete with them.

so far only the match between bayern munchen vs Dortmund is still the main attraction for me personally to see the bundesliga match, apart from the match, to be honest I prefer to sleep than watch the match Grin

Quote from: bct_ail on September 07, 2021, 05:22:41 AM

Unfortunately, this has been the case for a long time. For several years now, it has been clear who will end up on top and become champion. Sometimes it gets exciting and other teams manage to be on top for a few match days. So it is boring when it comes to the championship. But still, there are many interesting games among the other teams.

now money has really ruled football, and of course clubs that have strong finances will continue to be the dominating clubs in the league, as is what happened to bayern munchen today which collects many of the best players in their squad.

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Even in the last 3 seasons Leverkusen have only been able to finish in 6th, 5th and 4th place and that is far from being a tough competitor in the title race, in contrast to Dortmund and Leipzig. I personally don't really care if it's a boring league or not because only about 1 to 3 teams dominate, sport nowadays has become a place of business and investment. In fact, many quality players come from mid-class teams as you say, until in the end they are recruited by big teams like Bayern Munich in this Bundesliga.

Leverkusen lost their power as top three clubs in Bundesliga and in past few season, Leipzig replaced Leverkusen position. Leipzig started to lose their best players to big clubs and I guess in near future, they will struggle to hold their position as the third best club in Bundesliga.

Leverkusen might come back to the third. Anyway I fail to see any of them can become real competitor to Bayern for Bundesliga title. Bayern are too strong in Germany.

Dormund, what will they have after they lose Haaland? Haaland will very probably to leave Dortmund and even with him, they can not fight with Bayern. So without him, I can not imagine how easily the race to the title will become for Bayern.

I remember Leverkusen when Michael Ballack is the most important player there and success bring to final champion league on 2001 before one beautiful goal created by Zidane at the last minute and make their dream to get champion league trophy gone. Now their reputation on bundesliga have been disappear and replace by new club Leipzig, how ever Bundesliga is not interested league and most dominance by Bayern Munich because almost competitor team sell their favorite player to Die Rotten. Last years Leipzig sold two most important player to Bayern and they sold coach too, that not good way how to be competitor for Bayern in Bundesliga.

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Quote from: hahay on September 07, 2021, 08:05:08 AM

Even in the last 3 seasons Leverkusen have only been able to finish in 6th, 5th and 4th place and that is far from being a tough competitor in the title race, in contrast to Dortmund and Leipzig. I personally don't really care if it's a boring league or not because only about 1 to 3 teams dominate, sport nowadays has become a place of business and investment. In fact, many quality players come from mid-class teams as you say, until in the end they are recruited by big teams like Bayern Munich in this Bundesliga.

Leverkusen lost their power as top three clubs in Bundesliga and in past few season, Leipzig replaced Leverkusen position. Leipzig started to lose their best players to big clubs and I guess in near future, they will struggle to hold their position as the third best club in Bundesliga.

Leverkusen might come back to the third. Anyway I fail to see any of them can become real competitor to Bayern for Bundesliga title. Bayern are too strong in Germany.

Dormund, what will they have after they lose Haaland? Haaland will very probably to leave Dortmund and even with him, they can not fight with Bayern. So without him, I can not imagine how easily the race to the title will become for Bayern.

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Quote from: tyz on September 07, 2021, 06:24:47 AM

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Bayern Munich has turned other teams in bundesliga into their academy, They buy any developed player from these clubs at cheaper price, where as teams from other leagues can't get these players if they must get the players, they will pay heavily for it

Bundesliga is to me the most boring league to follow, no competition.
I really wish teams like Leipzig, Lille or Dortmund can get stronger to compete with them.

Lille is a French club in the Ligue 1, not the Bundesliga. You probably mean Leverkusen.

I would not say it the most boring, but indeed it is has become a boring league over the last decade. Similar like many others in Europe where they are one or two top clubs and the rest is mid-class. However, this is the first season I see a more equalized competition since Bayern has not really increased their quality. I would even say, Bayern is not as strong as the years before. Dortmund has a great talented team. If they remain stable, then a surprise would certainly be possible.

Lille is Lille and Leverkusen is Leverkusen, they are very different and there is no way he could be wrong. When he can judge this league as very boring, then at least he knows and understands which teams are good and bad and which teams are likely to be competitors in the title race. Lille are clearly contenders in the Ligue 1 title race but what about Leverkusen? Even in the last 3 seasons Leverkusen have only been able to finish in 6th, 5th and 4th place and that is far from being a tough competitor in the title race, in contrast to Dortmund and Leipzig. I personally don't really care if it's a boring league or not because only about 1 to 3 teams dominate, sport nowadays has become a place of business and investment. In fact, many quality players come from mid-class teams as you say, until in the end they are recruited by big teams like Bayern Munich in this Bundesliga.

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Quote from: Joy_learns_crypto on September 07, 2021, 05:51:18 AM

Bundesliga is to me the most boring league to follow, no competition.
I really wish teams like Leipzig, Lille or Dortmund can get stronger to compete with them.

Like seriously!!!!!! Do you know what Bundesliga is? Have you ever watched a Bundesliga match? How do you find the Bundesliga boring? Strong teams like Bayern Munich, Dortmund, Leipzig are here. Leverkusen and Wolfsburg are also strong enough. I really don't understand how the Bundesliga can seem boring to anyone despite having so many good teams. Please watch Bundesliga matches, then write in this thread.

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