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Tomorrow there are all 4 matches intresting and also very hard to say where to place a bet for !
Normaly Dortmund should win against Bremen but we know what was happend the last Weekend .
Stuttgart vs Union Berlin i really cant say how to bet there its hard but will go for Stuttgart maybe .
Frankfurt plays against Gladbach also very hard to say how will win that .
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Dortmund were terrible in their last 3 matches in the league. They lost to Köln 1-2 in their home stadium. After that, they couldn't manage to win Frankfurt match too. And the result of their last match was embarrasing for them. How the hell did Dortmund lose to Stuttgart 1-5 in their home stadium? I know that Haaland is injured but they have many talented players. They fired Lucien Favre now but I think the real problem here is that Dortmund are having too much problem on scoring goals without Haaland.
Dortmund lost the match against Stuttgart very badly. They could not return to the truck in the second half. Although the ball was more in Dortmund's possession.  But they could not make a good attack. On the other hand, Stuttgart has less possession. But they were able to attack something very good. Their defender is the main culprit behind losing the Dortmund match. Dortmund's defenders played very badly.
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Dortmund were terrible in their last 3 matches in the league. They lost to Köln 1-2 in their home stadium. After that, they couldn't manage to win Frankfurt match too. And the result of their last match was embarrasing for them. How the hell did Dortmund lose to Stuttgart 1-5 in their home stadium? I know that Haaland is injured but they have many talented players. They fired Lucien Favre now but I think the real problem here is that Dortmund are having too much problem on scoring goals without Haaland.
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And Dortmund just sacked Favre Roll Eyes
Dortmund in the last season and in this current season are very different. This season they played worse and the injury of Haaland can prolong their troubles. Jadon Sancho can feel bad when he couldn't leave in the summer transfer to Manchester United, a big club, back to his country land and at least Manchester United did not have bad results like Dortmund.

Favre can feel how bitter the career of football manager is. It can change very fast and Mourinho with his 2 coach time in Chelsea proves it too. He won Premier League with Chelsea and one season later, he was sacked 2 times.
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Would you say it's riskier to trust a complete newcomer coach to save the season than letting Favre finishing it?

Well, at least it's way easier to kind of control him^^ Zorc and Watzke are surely not the easiest persons to deal with, but they are the bosses, so as a coach of Dortmund you will always come out on the short end, if you don't get along with them and the results are bad-ish.

I don't think Dortmund is planning with Terzic longterm as of now, but will look for a more proven coach in the coming weeks. If Terzic is successful, then he might also stay, who knows. The problem is, there are not that many coaches available right now and judging by their history, they would want a german-speaking coach again - and this won't be Rangnick 100% Grin Marco Rose maybe.....
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He always gets into trouble with the bosses and their relationship gets worse and worse over time.

So did Tuchel. I think Watzke and Zorc aren't always easy to deal with, too. They are both hoping to find a second Jürgen Klopp.

Don't get me wrong. It might be all true what you are saying. I was actually expecting them to sack him after they failed to save their 11 point(?) lead over Bayern over the finish line last season. But sacking him now? Would you say it's riskier to trust a complete newcomer coach to save the season than letting Favre finishing it?
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I can't understand the BVB here.

I do Grin It's not about the results or their position in the table right now, this is about Favre's personality. He is a very difficult person to deal with longterm and he had the same problems at Hertha and Gladbach in the past (not sure about his stint in Nice). He always gets into trouble with the bosses and their relationship gets worse and worse over time. As long as the team performs well, both sides will just live with it and keep a distanced business relationship. But as soon as the team is in a slump after ~2+ years, the management will grab the opportunity and sack him. By then he will probably also have lost the locker room (which looks to be the case in Dortmund as well), so there is no point in keeping him. This slump doesn't have to last very long; some games of non-results are enough, to justify the sacking publicly without having too many questions asked.

I think he is one hell of a coach and can develop (young) teams extremely well, but he is also an alpha male, which isn't always super obvious when you see/hear him. As a coach you have to be like this to a certain extent and it will work as long as you deliver. But the other alpha males in the club, will not hesitate to get rid of you, once you fade and/or show weaknesses.
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Favre has somehow not fit all the time to dortmund ... only the last successes could always somehow separate him from the dismissal.
but now after the next home defeat (first against cologne and now against stuttgart) one had to act...

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https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bvb-fire-head-coach-lucien-favre-edin-terzic-to-take-over/view/news/376054

I can't understand the BVB here. Maybe Favre really isn't the right coach for them, maybe someone else could've been more successful with the players Dortmund has but sacking Favre now? In the middle of the season? With the reasoning that they are afraid they won't reach their season goals and then trusting on a completely inexperienced Terzic to reach these goals? Favres statistics weren't all that bad as Dortmund coach and I am sure they would've finished in the top 3 easily at the end of the season. Then they still could've evaluated the season and make a clear cut and start the next season with a new coach. That move to sack Favre is really risky imo or are they hoping Terzic will be as successful as Hansi Flick.
Well I expected to see something similar for Schalke before Dortmund... It is expected anyway, Dortmund failed very hard lately vs weak teams and with the worst humiliating way = receiving 5 goals! plus a draw against Frankfurt... They has 4 defeats in 11 games and they are 5th, the next team to has such defeats in the table is Augsburg 10th Undecided
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Favre has somehow not fit all the time to dortmund ... only the last successes could always somehow separate him from the dismissal.
but now after the next home defeat (first against cologne and now against stuttgart) one had to act...

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BVB fire head coach Lucien Favre - Edin Terzic to take over
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bvb-fire-head-coach-lucien-favre-edin-terzic-to-take-over/view/news/376054

I can't understand the BVB here. Maybe Favre really isn't the right coach for them, maybe someone else could've been more successful with the players Dortmund has but sacking Favre now? In the middle of the season? With the reasoning that they are afraid they won't reach their season goals and then trusting on a completely inexperienced Terzic to reach these goals? Favres statistics weren't all that bad as Dortmund coach and I am sure they would've finished in the top 3 easily at the end of the season. Then they still could've evaluated the season and make a clear cut and start the next season with a new coach. That move to sack Favre is really risky imo or are they hoping Terzic will be as successful as Hansi Flick.
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Yes, currently it looks a bit more exciting than in the last seasons
Leverkusen is currently in a good form but I don't think they will be able to show their performance over the whole season.

But did you ever think that Bayern could not win? The others have to accept the gifts from Bayern.  Wink

Sure. Everyone except Schalke can win against Bayern! Cheesy
I think the last two matches from them showed that they arent invicible. Especially the match against Union should have been a wake-up call.  Wink
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Yes, currently it looks a bit more exciting than in the last seasons
Leverkusen is currently in a good form but I don't think they will be able to show their performance over the whole season.

But did you ever think that Bayern could not win? The others have to accept the gifts from Bayern.  Wink
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Schalke has got so much overtime and didn't shot a goal.  Roll Eyes

And two red cards for Hoffenheim. Didn't watch the game but that is the right time for Leverkusen to climb on the first place because next weekend they will play against Bayern.

Damn , havnt seen that they got 2 Red cards and just noticed 1 of them , ok that explains why Leverkusen have won the game !
Well technically even with 11 players, Hoffenheim wouldn't win this game easily. Before the first red card, they were behind with 3 goals to 1 at 64 minutes with few threatening attempts.
Leverkusen are scoring many goals lately without a single defeat, they will play vs Koln this Wednesday and I assume they will win then as you said, depending from Bayern performance this Saturday, they might have a weak chance to win or at least escape with a draw.
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meanwhile the victory of Bayer Leverkusen over Hoffenheim 4-1 allowed them to take the first spot in the Bundesliga table with 25 points. Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig both trailing with 24 points. so this season the race for the title will be very interesting.

Yes, currently it looks a bit more exciting than in the last seasons
Leverkusen is currently in a good form but I don't think they will be able to show their performance over the whole season.

This week will be full with games, starting on tuesday and wednesday. On the 19.12 we will see the match between Leverkusen and Bayern. Very excited for this match  Smiley
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meanwhile the victory of Bayer Leverkusen over Hoffenheim 4-1 allowed them to take the first spot in the Bundesliga table with 25 points. Bayern Munich and RB Leipzig both trailing with 24 points. so this season the race for the title will be very interesting.
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Schalke has got so much overtime and didn't shot a goal.  Roll Eyes

And two red cards for Hoffenheim. Didn't watch the game but that is the right time for Leverkusen to climb on the first place because next weekend they will play against Bayern.

Damn , havnt seen that they got 2 Red cards and just noticed 1 of them , ok that explains why Leverkusen have won the game !
And for sure next Weekend will be the Top match between Bayern and Leverkusen and i guess maybe pointing the way for the Team that will win this Match.
If Bayern will play as they have done it yesterday i guess they will lose this match.
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With the Red Card for Augsburg i was guessing that Schalke will win it at least but they have got no luck and got the goal ,
for the draw in the 93 minute and they even got time til to the 99 minutes as the game was going so long .

Leverkusen looks good for now as they have 3 goals scored and there are only around 10 minutes to play .

Schalke has got so much overtime and didn't shot a goal.  Roll Eyes

And two red cards for Hoffenheim. Didn't watch the game but that is the right time for Leverkusen to climb on the first place because next weekend they will play against Bayern.
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With the Red Card for Augsburg i was guessing that Schalke will win it at least but they have got no luck and got the goal ,
for the draw in the 93 minute and they even got time til to the 99 minutes as the game was going so long .

Leverkusen looks good for now as they have 3 goals scored and there are only around 10 minutes to play .
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I don't understand how Schalke are too bad this season. They had a great opportunity to win against Augsburg and gather themselves up today. Although Augsburg had a red card, Schalke didn't manage to win the match and it ended in draw. If they continue like this, they will be relegated for sure.
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Schalke was leading 2-1 until the last minutes of the game before receiving a goal! Final result is 2-2. That was a weird result and Augsburg disappointed bettors just like Dortmund and Bayern this bad weekend...
Leverkusen 1-0 Hoffenheim after few minutes of the game and it is now temporarily the 1st in Bundesliga table
I was totally surprised today to see Schalke 04 gameplay. They played just great today. Everyone thought they would lose today's match as usual. Because for a team like them, FC Augsburg is a very strong opponent. Yet they played great today. Their bad luck, Augsburg scored in extra time after 90 minutes. Otherwise, Schalke 04 would have won today's match.
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And Dortmund just sacked Favre Roll Eyes

Well, good riddance.  Cheesy

Two lost championships with such a comfortable advantage over the despised rival was at the expense of his coaching ignorance. In his tenure, Favre formed competitive teams that could compete in any tournament, but none of them could lead to a significant title.


Favre has somehow not fit all the time to dortmund ... only the last successes could always somehow separate him from the dismissal.
but now after the next home defeat (first against cologne and now against stuttgart) one had to act...

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BVB fire head coach Lucien Favre - Edin Terzic to take over
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/bvb-fire-head-coach-lucien-favre-edin-terzic-to-take-over/view/news/376054

@cygan even though I agree with you’ll but I yet feel bad whenever someone loses his job, but moving on I’ll be heart broken if they hire Pochettino because I want him to become the coach of Manchester United. Furthermore do you’ll believe that Dortmund will be able to challenge for the league title under their new coach, or it’s too late for them to mount a title challenge.

Sources:

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13464714/dortmund-sack-manager-lucien-favre/

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/13439814/man-utd-pochettino-manager-solskjaer-pressure/
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