Topic: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 2691. (Read 670629 times)

yeah, someone put here statistic that 8/11 times Bundesliga teams stayed in, so this could be expected, but it was a bit for nerves
we have one more tonight, Nurnberg is playing Ingolstadt, with good chances to stay in 2. Bundesliga, it could be said that lower ranked teams from upper divisions are still better than best teams from lower divisions, but there is an experience in tough matches vector as well

anyway, it is good to see Werder in Bundesliga next season, they are an important part of football tradition in Germany

My bets all looked so good until the 85th minute
At least I got some money back on the 1x bet and on Werder staying up.

I feel a bit bad for Heidenheim, although Werder is way more suited for the Bundesliga. Based on what I saw in these 2 games, Heidenheim is a fighting team but without much quality.
This style would not have worked for them in the Bundesliga and it's maybe better for them to build on this result further in the 2nd league than to be cannon fodder in the 1st.

Congrats to Werder Bremen for stay in the First German League after the relegation match against Heidenheim.
It was an intresting match and in the End of the Game it was realy dramatic , Heidenheim played very well and hasnt got luck.
My bet on the game wasnt right but i also placed a bet that they stay in the League.

Game ended 2:2 with some late minutes drama as common on Heidenheim games. Congrats to Werder and all their supporters.

If it stayed 1:1 Werder would still gone trough because of the away goals. As soon as first goal happened it was impossible to get extra time in this match.

That first goal in this match threw away all my predictions and made most off my bets very hard to end favorably. Still I would have ended in very nice plus if game ended 1:1. I had quite large bets on under 2.5 goals and Werder total under 1.5 goals. This way only my 1X on Heidenheim hit with super late penalty so it wasn't total bust but it was near.

aaaaaand its over!
werder bremen stays in the 1. bundesliga💪
game was over after 96 minutes - final result 2:2

Shit happens! Heidenheim scored on 85' and the score is 1 - 1 Bremen... Fingers crossed. It is 90+1' right now and stress level is rising 

Dont be too sure about it, Heidenheim is well known for last minute goals. One goal is enough for an extension!

75th minute and Werder Bremen is in complete control even ball possesion is favouring home team but right now they have some good advantages and expereince which is helping them for keeping place in Bundesliga Heidenheim is going to stay in Bundesliga 2 for another season.

Fun Fact: Theuerkauf made his first steps in the professional football business in the 2nd team from Werder Bremen..  must be a sign!!!

They have done it before against Stuttgart from 0-2 to 2-2 and against Hamburg from 0-1 to 2-1. Both in second half, where they usually play from left to right (like today in second half) and thus towards the goal they like more. But Stuttgart/Hamburg are not Werder and I hope they won't score two without Werder scoring again. 1-1 would be ok with me though

fast own goal by Theuerkauf, and all analysis are down, Werder will play on counter attacks, Heidenheim will try to do the work, but do not expect two goals form them, without conceiving some, so we will watch Werder in Bundesliga next season as well, good for them, but for us as well

Sure, but the problem is that both teams have two completely different situations when they meet for the relegation playoffs. If a team gets promoted to the first league it usually goes on a shopping spree, if a team relegates, it has to let most of their squad go. The squads of a typical second league team cannot be compared to those of a first league team.

I was also feeling Heidenheim is going to be good for next season in Bundesliga but Werder Bremen have some different ideas what a start for them just 4th minute and own goal by Heidenheim defender look like they are going to stay in for next season and will try to do some better.

I haven't watched any Bundesliga 2 teams play but Heidenheim seems to have a very strong record in home games. They haven't lost since October last year and have played 16 games since out of which they have won 13 and 3 draws. While this is a bit different since there is something more on the line for both teams so anything could happen. I would say BTTS is good to go in this intense fixture that is about to go down in just a few minutes.

i also hope that werder bremen will give his all today for the last game and save himself from the relegation into the 2. bundesliga.

but if you see this as a neutral viewer, then bremen has earned the relegation and to see 1. fc heidenheim in the 1. bundesliga would have something special

(lebenslang grün-weiß)
that means: lifelong green-white 💪💪

I think better to let the relegation playoffs like this. If the 3rd team in 2.Bundesliga isn't able to win vs the third last team in 1.Bundesliga then better to stay in 2.BL until they will be able to do something in the first.

Yup, I'd support this as well. The whole season is enough to fight for your spot and I don't like second chances - especially because they are in favor of the big teams again.

I dislike the Championship promotion format as well in which 4 teams play a knockout tournament for the last promotion spot. That spot is worth 100+ million and if a team has claimed it over 46 games in a course of the season, I think it's unfair that they need to claim it again once the season is over.

In most cases (8 out of 11) in previous relegation playoffs, the team from the first league had the upper hand in the end. But I don't really think this is a matter of energy as you suggested. The team from the second league has just this huge disadvantage of having a team that was put together to play in the second league and not the first. This sounds logical but let me explain.

The TV money that clubs from the second league are getting is substantially less than the one first league clubs receive. Sponsors aren't willing to pay that much so in the end they can't pay high salaries. And on top of that they can only offer 'second class football'. So all in all teams from the second Bundesliga neither have the money nor the reputation to lure star-players into their squad. With these prerequisites it is no wonder that teams from the second league have a hard time to compete with the one coming from the first league. They have to approach the games really from a fighting point because individually they are always on the losing side.

That's why some people even want the relegation playoffs to be abolished again. They think it's unfair that a team (like Werder) can play a completely shitty season and still have the chance to save themselves in the end while the team from the second league doesn't get rewarded for their good season.

As a fan of Werder Bremen I'm praying that this will be a clear loss for Heidenheim.

However, I have to say that I would treat it to Heidenheim aswell because they played a great season. Against any other team I would cheer for them coz they absolute deserve it to play atleast one season in the 1st League in Germany.

Lets hope that Werder will get off lightly one last time... 

I think I will use the same approach. After seeing the extended highlights of the first game, it is clear both teams can keep the opposition away from their goals. Even in case of an early goal, the team that is leading will just increase their defensive effort so a low-scoring game might be the best betting option.

I'll also go with Werder to stay in the Bundesliga, it's a win-win. If werder stays up I'll get some money, if Heidenheim wins I'll just enjoy in the underdog win.