Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 2692.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on July 05, 2020, 06:05:42 PM

Quote from: tyKiwanuka on July 02, 2020, 03:24:56 PM

Odds for Monday: Heidenheim - Bremen 3.14 3.56 2.24

Odds have dropped below 2.00 in some places and I think this is wrong. Strong home team against strong-ish away team, but Werder only managed to win 6/17 (35%) of their away games in the end and they don't have to win this game in order to stay in Bundesliga. Any scoring draw is fine for them and even 0-0 again would be enough to send the game to overtime. I think Werder will want to score at any cost to put pressure on Heidenheim having to win the game. Heidenheim themselves are aware of this and they conceded only 13 goals in 17 games at home. Now Werder is better than any other team they faced in 2. Bundesliga and thus I expect Heidenheim to take a very cautious approach again - sit back and wait for counter-attacks, where Werder looked vulnerable in 1st leg. Getting corners and free-kicks near the box should also be something they would looking for. As Darkoth89 mentioned, Werder is poor in defending set pieces (+ Moisander is out) and Heidenheim has Schnatterer who kicks very dangerous free-kicks, if the position is good.

Heidenheim 1X for me with 3/10 and another 3/10 inplay, if Werder scores the lead.

Agreed - having watched the first game and taking into consideration everything, Heidenheim 1X seems super value tonight! Heidenheim unbeaten at home in last 12 matches (9/3/0) and even though there wont be spectators of course, I still believe they will perform even better. Well, my friends will cry but at least we'll make some cash to go watch Werder away in Aue next year! Cheesy

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on July 02, 2020, 03:24:56 PM

Odds for Monday: Heidenheim - Bremen 3.14 3.56 2.24

Odds have dropped below 2.00 in some places and I think this is wrong. Strong home team against strong-ish away team, but Werder only managed to win 6/17 (35%) of their away games in the end and they don't have to win this game in order to stay in Bundesliga. Any scoring draw is fine for them and even 0-0 again would be enough to send the game to overtime. I think Werder will want to score at any cost to put pressure on Heidenheim having to win the game. Heidenheim themselves are aware of this and they conceded only 13 goals in 17 games at home. Now Werder is better than any other team they faced in 2. Bundesliga and thus I expect Heidenheim to take a very cautious approach again - sit back and wait for counter-attacks, where Werder looked vulnerable in 1st leg. Getting corners and free-kicks near the box should also be something they would looking for. As Darkoth89 mentioned, Werder is poor in defending set pieces (+ Moisander is out) and Heidenheim has Schnatterer who kicks very dangerous free-kicks, if the position is good.

Heidenheim 1X for me with 3/10 and another 3/10 inplay, if Werder scores the lead.

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Quote from: Lafu on July 05, 2020, 02:12:48 PM

For the relegation match tomorrow i will place my bet again on Bremen .

I'm not gonna bet . It is possible for both teams to make the miracle after the first leg.

Quote from: Darkoth89 on July 05, 2020, 01:18:03 PM

On the other hand this whole total survaillance give me strong China vibes and even though the official of that AI company ensures they comply with privacy policy regulations, I am still not really convinced it is worth to completly monitor every fan only for the sake of filling the stadiums again (and give the clubs the juicy ticket money).

Yeah, that worries me too. I don't want to be monitored at the stadium and be told by the stadium announcer that I'm sitting too close to another seat: "Hey, you there on seat number 30. Go back to your seat number 31."

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After the Match yesterday from Leverkusen it looks like that the player Kai Havertz maybe will possible play next season in Chelsa.
If they realy want him i guess he will doing it because it would be a big jump for his Career.
Bayern Munich dosnt wanted him.

For the relegation match tomorrow i will place my bet again on Bremen .
For the other relegation match in the second league for Nürnberg vs Ingolstadt i dont know to place the bet, but this match getting intresting for sure.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on July 05, 2020, 07:41:44 AM

I would love to have at least some fans back in the stadiums. The problem is, that it's not a federal decision, but each state will most likely have their own regulations. And (for Bundesliga) in the states that have fewer Corona issues and are more likely to allow spectators again, there are no teams in Bundesliga Grin

The hardest hit states (Bavaria, Baden-Wuerttemberg, North Rhine Westphalia) have 11+1 teams in Bundesliga, while states where Corona is only a smaller issue (Mecklenburg Western Pomerania, Brandenburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Saxony-Anhalt, Thuringia) have no teams at all. If Saxony allows Leipzig to have fans again, but Bavaria says no fans allowed in Bayern/Augsburg, then that is unfair financial advantage for Leipzig and DFL won't allow them to have spectators too.

There has been a study already during the last match between Dortmund and Hoffenheim regarding bringing back the fans. The German Kicker has an interesting article about it. Basically it's about a company that uses AI for camera-based bodytemperature-measurement, detection of face masks, people counting and (social)distance measurement. Their system detects when people who do not belong together (e.g. as a family) sit too close together (will probably look something like this). They are talking about a capacity use of 30% of the stadium as a first steptalking about

On one hand it really amazes me what can technically possible and I'd really love to see fans back in the stadiums. On the other hand this whole total survaillance give me strong China vibes and even though the official of that AI company ensures they comply with privacy policy regulations, I am still not really convinced it is worth to completly monitor every fan only for the sake of filling the stadiums again (and give the clubs the juicy ticket money).

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Quote from: cryptofrka on July 04, 2020, 03:15:56 AM

Today's the cup final, the 2nd leg between Werder and Heidenheim is on Monday.

I think Bayern's much stronger than Leverkusen and will win the cup as well, but Leverkusen is an attack minded team and I will try with an over 3.5 goals bet for tonight.

Finals tend to be games with less goals than usual but I think this one will be offensive from both teams.

Mein gott I've been making a lot of mistakes with game dates these last week, so I see now that my bet is still active. Probably because I'm now using bookies across 3 different timezones or something. Looks like you got your bet anyway, and I missed a spectacular game it seems. Probably best I did, since I'd definitely have bet on Leverkusen (and lost).

Need to really start organising myself better.

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Quote from: seek3r on July 05, 2020, 07:08:14 AM

Quote from: Daniel91 on July 05, 2020, 07:02:11 AM

The German Football League was the first among the leading European leagues to continue the competition and could be the first major football league to bring fans back to stadiums.
This possibility was hinted at by the executive director of the German football league Christian Seifert, in a statement to the Frankfurter Allgemeine.
Measures are currently in force in Germany that make it impossible to organize a larger and more mass gathering, at least until October 31, but after that date everything is open.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/bundesliga-razmislja-o-vracanju-navijaca-sljedece-sezone/2195644.aspx

Cant read that source link from you without a translator, but yeah, seems like the german league plans to bring back the fans to their stadiums.
What I have heard is, that they are planing to bring fans back already in September but with some restrictions.. Fans have to wear protectivte masks, every 2nd seat will be used and only fans from the home team are allowed to enter the stadium.. Roll Eyes

Sorry, I don't know german and can't find original german article from the Frankfurter Allgemeine and also couldn't find this article in English.
Surely sooner or later fans will be allowed to enter the stadiums, with strict protection measures, but I'm not as optimistic as you or others that it will happen soon in Germany, already in September, more likely a few months later.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on July 05, 2020, 07:41:44 AM

Quote from: seek3r on July 05, 2020, 07:08:14 AM

What I have heard is, that they are planing to bring fans back already in September but with some restrictions.. Fans have to wear protectivte masks, every 2nd seat will be used and only fans from the home team are allowed to enter the stadium.. Roll Eyes

I would love to have at least some fans back in the stadiums. The problem is, that it's not a federal decision, but each state will most likely have their own regulations. And (for Bundesliga) in the states that have fewer Corona issues and are more likely to allow spectators again, there are no teams in Bundesliga Grin

The hardest hit states (Bavaria, Baden-Wuerttemberg, North Rhine Westphalia) have 11+1 teams in Bundesliga, while states where Corona is only a smaller issue (Mecklenburg Western Pomerania, Brandenburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Saxony-Anhalt, Thuringia) have no teams at all. If Saxony allows Leipzig to have fans again, but Bavaria says no fans allowed in Bayern/Augsburg, then that is unfair financial advantage for Leipzig and DFL won't allow them to have spectators too.

Yeah, did not thought about this aspect yet. You are absolute right, Bavaria would be the last state to allow fans again in stadiums if you compare it with other regulations from that state. Grin

Guess we could wait for some more months if it comes to the decision for the DFL.

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Quote from: seek3r on July 05, 2020, 07:08:14 AM

What I have heard is, that they are planing to bring fans back already in September but with some restrictions.. Fans have to wear protectivte masks, every 2nd seat will be used and only fans from the home team are allowed to enter the stadium.. Roll Eyes

I would love to have at least some fans back in the stadiums. The problem is, that it's not a federal decision, but each state will most likely have their own regulations. And (for Bundesliga) in the states that have fewer Corona issues and are more likely to allow spectators again, there are no teams in Bundesliga Grin

The hardest hit states (Bavaria, Baden-Wuerttemberg, North Rhine Westphalia) have 11+1 teams in Bundesliga, while states where Corona is only a smaller issue (Mecklenburg Western Pomerania, Brandenburg, Schleswig-Holstein, Saxony-Anhalt, Thuringia) have no teams at all. If Saxony allows Leipzig to have fans again, but Bavaria says no fans allowed in Bayern/Augsburg, then that is unfair financial advantage for Leipzig and DFL won't allow them to have spectators too.

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 05, 2020, 07:02:11 AM

The German Football League was the first among the leading European leagues to continue the competition and could be the first major football league to bring fans back to stadiums.
This possibility was hinted at by the executive director of the German football league Christian Seifert, in a statement to the Frankfurter Allgemeine.
Measures are currently in force in Germany that make it impossible to organize a larger and more mass gathering, at least until October 31, but after that date everything is open.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/bundesliga-razmislja-o-vracanju-navijaca-sljedece-sezone/2195644.aspx

Cant read that source link from you without a translator, but yeah, seems like the german league plans to bring back the fans to their stadiums.
What I have heard is, that they are planing to bring fans back already in September but with some restrictions.. Fans have to wear protectivte masks, every 2nd seat will be used and only fans from the home team are allowed to enter the stadium.. Roll Eyes

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The German Football League was the first among the leading European leagues to continue the competition and could be the first major football league to bring fans back to stadiums.
This possibility was hinted at by the executive director of the German football league Christian Seifert, in a statement to the Frankfurter Allgemeine.
Measures are currently in force in Germany that make it impossible to organize a larger and more mass gathering, at least until October 31, but after that date everything is open.
Source: https://www.index.hr/sport/clanak/bundesliga-razmislja-o-vracanju-navijaca-sljedece-sezone/2195644.aspx

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The second half was better from Leverkusen. But somehow there were in the way of themselves. A pity. There would have been more in it.

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Quote from: Trofo on July 04, 2020, 02:44:38 PM

Bayern is a machine and it really has to be a combination of extraordinary circumstances for their opposition to take something from them.

Gratulations to Bayern ... another title for them Roll Eyes

But this time Bayern was definitely beatable and the Leverkusen gave the game away too easily. You cannot make these mistakes against Bayern like the one their keeper made which led to the 3-0. And on top of that Leverkusens counter attacks were really sloppy today. I am sure a team in the Champions League would have made it way harder for Bayern today. Especially the second half wasn't that good by Bayern-standards.

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Quote from: Lafu on July 04, 2020, 03:14:25 PM

Congrats to Bayern Munich for win the DFB Cup today in a game that was ok and not bad from both Teams.
Second half was better from Leverkusen but the finaly fail was the 3rd goal from the Goalkeeper and Leverkusen missed so many chances.
Any way it was nice and good to watch the Game.

Dunno how I forgot totally about the final, focused on EPL/La Liga games and waiting for the Bundesliga relegation and Embarrassed

Quote from: Lafu on July 04, 2020, 03:14:25 PM

Looking forward to the next Relegation matches now.

Less than 48 hours to go

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Congrats to Bayern Munich for win the DFB Cup today in a game that was ok and not bad from both Teams.
Second half was better from Leverkusen but the finaly fail was the 3rd goal from the Goalkeeper and Leverkusen missed so many chances.
Any way it was nice and good to watch the Game.

Looking forward to the next Relegation matches now.

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Quote from: casperBGD on July 04, 2020, 02:30:43 PM

Bender scored for Leverkusen, they improved in second half, if there is no Bayern on the other side, one could hope for total turnover, but since there is Bayern, do think that this is finished, even if Bayer score one more goal in second half, team from Munich is just to good for their league, and they are now peacefully waiting for CL finals in Lisbon, where they could be favorites, but more than a month break will decrease their chances a lot

Yeah, even before the game had started one would have expected this win Bayern Munich, It's just a different year but still the same usually outcome, There is just about 10 minutes left plus stoppage time to go.

Bayern Munich will have the luxury of time needed before the champions league gets underway again, that might be a positive thing for the team although, they're likely through to the next round already.

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on July 04, 2020, 01:59:22 PM

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1860 - Ingolstadt over 2.5 @1.9+ 0-2
Chemnitz - Rostock over 2.5 @2.0+ 4-2

At halftime it looked VERY bad, since both games were still scoreless. Second half was crazy in Chemnitz, but remained quite boring in Munich. With Duisburg having a solid lead, 1860 were basically out of contention for that playoff spot. They still pushed, but were too pathetic upfront. This game could have easily gone over, especially in the closing minutes, but Ingolstadt didn't go for the third goal 100% and were happy with keeping the ball and slowing things down.

Meanwhile Bayern won the DFB-Pokal, congratulations once again.

Ah well it was close but not enough in the end. I had each of those games coupled with another small odds esports game giving a total odds of 2.5 per ticket so it was a small profit for me.

Bayern is a machine and it really has to be a combination of extraordinary circumstances for their opposition to take something from them.

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Bender scored for Leverkusen, they improved in second half, if there is no Bayern on the other side, one could hope for total turnover, but since there is Bayern, do think that this is finished, even if Bayer score one more goal in second half, team from Munich is just to good for their league, and they are now peacefully waiting for CL finals in Lisbon, where they could be favorites, but more than a month break will decrease their chances a lot

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Quote from: tyKiwanuka on July 01, 2020, 03:07:38 PM

1860 - Ingolstadt over 2.5 @1.9+ 0-2
Chemnitz - Rostock over 2.5 @2.0+ 4-2

At halftime it looked VERY bad, since both games were still scoreless. Second half was crazy in Chemnitz, but remained quite boring in Munich. With Duisburg having a solid lead, 1860 were basically out of contention for that playoff spot. They still pushed, but were too pathetic upfront. This game could have easily gone over, especially in the closing minutes, but Ingolstadt didn't go for the third goal 100% and were happy with keeping the ball and slowing things down.

With the final whistle, it looked like Ingolstadt took 3rd place, which would have put them directly into 2. Bundesliga, but Würzburg game was still running and they scored the late equalizer against Halle and Ingolstadt will now have to play Nürnberg in playoffs. This will be two though games and for me it's completely unpredictable who will advance.

Meanwhile Bayern won the DFB-Pokal, congratulations once again.

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