Topic: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 417. (Read 634540 times)

Your analysis is true, Bayern Munich had.a good season. The only problem they had was that they are facing a formidable competitor. Bayern won the league last season because of goal difference which is far below thier past results. It might not be wrong to state that the club's performance started depreciating from last season. The club though Thomas Tuchel would fix it but Leverkusen became too strong to handle. The club might end up having a better result compared to last season of they can manage to win the Champions League and Tuchel might end up remaining in Bayern.


In sports, you don't give up before the end of the season or match. I know it might be difficult but four losses can cause Leverkusen to lose the top spots. Ten points is not too much especially in football because anything can happen. Arsenal might be having a splendid Champions League experience but that doesn't mean that they are favourites against Bayern. They have more experienced players and a more tactically sound coach. For now, Bayern is still in the race for the Bundesliga and UCL.

I agree with you, that Bayern Munich can still be said to be consistent every season, but the problem is when we see that Leverkusen, who are very superior, can lead the standings without losing even once. So that may be what makes some people think that Bayern Munich is in decline, because they make comparisons with Leverkusen who have been outstanding this season.

If we average each season, then we will indeed find the fact that Bayern Munich remains stable every season. It's just that, as I said before, Leverkusen appeared without defeat which ultimately made the distance between them distance. Comparing with a team without a clear defeat we will see that the team being compared seems to have experienced a very deep decline, even though that is actually not the case. But once again it is normal for some people to say they are declining, because in the last decade no team has played better than them, and this season Leverkusen can do that.

You are right and I already mentioned that on my previous post that Bayern Munich doesn't stand any chance again on this Bundesliga because in every way we view it Bayern Leverkusen remains the best team on this Bundesliga, however Bayern Munich had the chance to become the best team on this Bundesliga during the early time of this season but they failed to utilize there chances as such given Bayern Leverkusen the privilege to stand on a better chance than them, so like you said even if they have 8 remaining matches for them to play but they can never compete with Bayern Leverkusen let alone dream of wining the Bundesliga this season.

Bayern Munich's current position in the league is indeed uncomfortable because they have been abandoned by Leverkusen far enough, but that does not mean they have to give up easily because however important it is for Bayern Munich to still be able to secure the runner up position as well as their chances to qualify for the Champions League next season, currently Bayern Munich is in second position with a difference of 10 points from Leverkusen who are at the top of the standings,  And 4 points above Sttutgart who are in third position, indeed maybe their position is safe enough to get 1 Champions League ticket next season but the prestige of a big team certainly requires them not to fall too much in the standings at the end of the season.

The crucial game against Arsenal in the Champions League should be the main focus for them, but I think with the depth of the squad that Bayern Munich has at the moment it is certainly not difficult for them to rotate players to play in the league while staying focused on the Champions League later.

Bayern Munich should just give up I don't think there is any hope for them for any trophy, bundesliga which already as been taking care of by Bayer Leverkusen and the Champions league is going to be difficult for them even their next champion league match against arsenal will not be as it used to be, Arsenal are really ready to take revenge of what Bayern Munich has been doing them and again Arsenal are here to make history for themselves to win the first ever trophy they always dream of having. The first leg of the match is an advantage for Arsenal to make sure they win their home with many goals to make themselves confortable in the second leg.

From some of this analysis, we can see that Leverkusen opportunity is very big, as you said, if Leverkusen can maintain consistency for 5 matches to get extraordinary results at the end of the season.
But Xabi Alonso also still has to be careful with Bayern Munich because even though he doesn't really hope to win the title in the Bundesliga, if Leverkusen is a little careless in experiencing consecutive defeats or draws, Tuchel will definitely take advantage of this opportunity.
Talking about Bayern Munich who will play Arsenal in the CL match, I will not worry and enthusiastically bet bigger for Bayern Munich's victory without having to do any analysis because it has been clear since in the history of the CL that Arsenal can always be beaten by Bayern Munich.

Even though they are 10 points ahead of Bayern Munich, Leverkusen has a schedule that is a bit dangerous for the players' fitness because Xabi Alonso ambition is to win titles in several competitions, such as having to compete in the UEL and maintaining his position in first place in the points table, which always has tough obstacles because if a club is being chased by a club below it, it will definitely have quite strong pressure and on the other hand, we definitely remember how last season Bayern Munich beat Dortmund in the last match at the end of last season, which was very worrying.
We have to see what the final results will be for Leverkusen against Hoffenheim and Bayern Munich against Dortmund.
If in this match Leverkusen still gets 3 points, their position is still a little safe.

It's very much possible for Leverkusen to literally finish the Germans bundesliga this season with the unbeaten record but I doubt if they are going to be able to maintain same results in other European leagues aswell too, because it's actually going to really exert a certain kind of pressure on them because they have over the season maintained this across all leagues where they play a s it has come to the notice of many.

The fact that most leagues are almost getting to the stage of rounding up already is a reason why the pressure will now be on the increase because at this point every mistake counts and has a way of determining how much a team will be able to get from the league by the end of the season. Currently the chances of Xabi still staying at Leverkusen by next season is actually not sure because there have been speculations that he may likely leave the team by then so if the team get poor management there after, even if they don't get to sell players, they may still get poor with their performance.

Leverkusen is currently a good team even without them having to buy players a d they can aswell maintain this by still working on further building the team with the young talents they have got so they become even more formidable and sooner they may be the future of the bundesliga and even dominate more than Bayern Munich has done in the past but this will actually have a lot to do with the presence of Xabi staying back of leaving the team.

Christian Streich actually has just renew his contract on March last year but apparently Streich has been reach to his limit because he worries about his own health because he feels under pressure for every day so he decide to withdraw from his position as Freiburg manager but this statement actually appears since October that Streich was thinking possibility to leave Freiburg at the end of this season and now it just happend that after spend 13 years train Freiburg finally Streich will leave and although under Streich Freiburg was never able to gets the trophies but without star players Freiburg can able to playing consistent in Bundesliga and he also can bringing Freiburg to playing at European Competitions several times and playing at DFB Pokal final match on 2021/2022 although at that time Freiburg have to lost from Leipzig through an penalty shootout and this is big lost i am sure Freiburg fans will be miss him and unfortunately Freiburg have to find new manager for next season

It can be said that Borussia Dortmund occasionally beat Bayern Munich if they compete at the Allianz Stadium so this will be a match that will be profitable for Bayern Munich if we judge from Head To Head, and also the odds for Bayern Munich @ 1.44 and Dortmund @ 6.00 increasingly show that Bayern Munich is predicted can get three points.

However, judging from Dortmund's current points, their position in the top four is not yet safe because they can still be overtaken by Leipzig who are only one point behind Dortmund, so Bayern Munich must be wary of this fact because even though they are starting to look better with two consecutive wins and also with a big score but Dortmund is quite different from the two opponents who were beaten by Bayern.

My prediction is that Dortmund will try to get a point in this tough match, even if it's only one because a defeat will only make Leipzig move up to fourth place because Leipzig's opponent is the Mainz team which has a big chance of being defeated by Leipzig, even if Dortmund only gets one point, that's enough for Leipzig to occupy fourth place in the standings because if they can win over Mainz it will make Leipzig one point ahead of Dortmund and of course Dortmund will try to take over their current position if they are displaced by Leipzig.

It seems like that's what it is.
In the 27th match, Bayern will play against Dortmund. As you said, Dortmund is also a strong team in the Bundesliga. Moreover, Dortmund also qualified for the quarter-final of UCL, so this will also be a place to prove the strength between these two clubs. Although they will not play against each other in that QF match.

For this match, we can see from the Head-to-Head:

Source: Bayern München vs Borussia Dortmund

So far, Bayern has far more winning experiences than Dortmund, both at home and away. And so far, in the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich has been also doing better than Dortmund, well, even though Bayern is not as optimal and consistent as last season, in my opinion, Bayern is still so far more significant than Dortmund. But, it'll be an interesting match because both of them are also in their efforts to provide a good performance. What is certain is that whoever wins, it will not be easy.

Nagelsmann was working at Bayern Munich and they got him fired from the team because of the bad relationship he had in the team with some players including Manuel Neuer and the bad performance he had, that's why Tuchel got his place in Bayern Munich got he couldn't have a good performance and failed to get the results they wanted to see which made Bayern Munich in the situation to even be close to losing the Bundesliga title after years of the winning this trophy, that's why Bayern Munich is thinking about another coach to take the place of Tuchel in the team.
Now their former coach Nagelsmann is working for the German national team, They asked him if he would return to Bayern Munich and start working there again, however, Nagelsmann didn't reject anything but he said everything possible.



https://dailysports.net/news/everything-is-possible-bayern-munich-ceo-on-the-possible-return-of-his-former-coach/

Some seem to be suggesting that the 10 point gap between Leverkusen and Bayern is due to Bayern having a weaker season and not playing as good as in the past years, when they won the league.
That's not quite true. Bayern's average points per game this season is 2.31, meaning that, if their performance remain consistent, they should expect to have 78-79 points at the end of the season.
In comparison, last year they've won with 71 points, the year before with 77 points.
In conclusion - Bayern is not underperforming (at least so far), it's just the Leverkusen is that good.

I couldn't find all the information about his retreat, but does anyone know whether he expressed the desire to continue coaching? Like, is this a retreat from football or is it temporary and he said that the job in Freiburg is done but he is open to new adventures in the future?

Very down-to-earth, I can only agree and I want to say that I always like to see clubs that stick to their coaches during good and bad times. It's too much business and too harsh sometimes. Reminds me of Nagelsmann and how he got fired by Bayern Munich, now Tuchel is the next who has to leave, but for what reason I sometimes ask myself? Tuchel wasn't doing very well, Nagelsmann wasn't doing bad.

Klopp and Liverpool or Manchester City and Pep Guardiola are great stories. But Streich in Freiburg is even more impressive as he never had a big fat wallet to be used for player transfers. He was forced to build the best team possible out of whatever was left after a good season when the best players were bought by other clubs. That achievement as a coach deserves deep respect.

He is a very down-to-earth type and the club is known to stick with its coaches for a long time. That was already the case in the past. Even after Freiburg was relegated to the second division with him in 2015 and the club still held on to him. A year later he led the club straight back into the first league and a few years later even qualified for the international competitions two times in a row.

Remove Mauricio Pochetino from the list of good coaches, he is not amongst the tested, approved and trusted managers in the Premier League Competition. He has to show working before he came be leveled up to that position.
He would be a great manager for Liverpool, but the will need to have a continuous process from whatever Jurgen Klopp has done for Liverpool within the last nine years.

Rejecting Bayern Munich wouldn't be wise decision, at least they'd back him and he'd also improve the squad for another five years or six.
Talks of Bayern Leverkusen saying they'd block his movement to that club don't fazed me in the slightest way. Most importantly, I cannot wait for Bayern Leverkusen to be crowned winners of this years Bundesliga League Competition. They have fought a good fight and has also come a long way.

It is extraordinary for someone to be a coach and 29 years spent at a club is not an easy thing. In fact, he started as a club player and finally continued his career as a coach for Freiburg as a whole. His love for Freiburg is ingrained and his loyalty cannot be measured by anything. It seems that he also realized that his coaching abilities were no longer comparable to those of other coaches and perhaps because of that he felt tired and preferred to leave Freiburg.

It was a wise decision, especially since Christian Streich is not new to the club and he is very open to anyone in the future being able to handle this team and bring success to each season. As a mediocre team in the Bundesliga, I think Freiburg is not too bad and in fact last season under the guidance of Christian Streich they competed in the top 4 but unfortunately they only got one place in the European league. But overall it was very good and I think with the new coach we can have the same success.

It is already too late for them, in my opinion. I think they should go and fight for the way they will be able to win Arsenal and qualify for the semi-finals in the Champions League, even though I also see that part as another difficult thing for them to achieve. However, 10 points is not a small gap, and given that Bayern Leverkusen have been consistently winning their matches, I don't think at this point there will be a team in the Bundesliga that will be a challenge for Bayern Leverkusen now because I think they have already gone far in the title race, so anything that will make them drop points will be avoided, and I don't think they will be able to secure the remaining points to meet Bayern Leverkusen.


I think they should focus more on the Champions league, maybe they will win the title. although for Arsenal, I haven't put much hope for them in winning the title, because they are also hoping to get the premier league so I don't really know which one they will focus on much, but seriously Arsenal has Champions league title for mind, and they may likely surprise.

In their last three games, Bayern Munich has not defeated a strong opponent, their most recent victory was against poor opponents that cannot excape the relegation zone. We cannot conclude that they are back to winning ways just because they has scored a lot of goals in their last two games. Bayern Munich's next game is against Dortmund, who are a powerful opponent. Considering Dortmund are in a good form, Bayern Munich will need to fight for the victory. However, I will believe Bayern Munich is back to their winning ways, if they win against Dortmund in that game.


Although Arsenal is in good form, but Bayern Munich consistently beats Arsenal in the Champions League. It will be very difficult to predict the result of this next Champions League game. Arsenal did not have good records against Bayern Munich in the Champions League, they can eliminate Bayern if they play like they did in the Premier League games, since Arteta has gathered new players, I'm hoping that Arsenal might defeat Bayern Munich. Leverkusen is leading the Bundesliga, while Real Madrid and Manchester City are still in the Champions League, I don't think Bayern Munich will have a chance to win a title this season.

That would be bad news for Bayern Munich fans, as Bayern Munich are trying to get their form back in the league and even now fans are increasingly anxious if Neuer misses a crucial Champions league game, previously Bayern Munich also almost lost Kane due to an ankle injury when hitting the post during the game against Darmstadt,  But it seems that they are quite relieved when they hear that Kane is currently not seriously injured, but it turns out that now Bayern Munich must lose Neuer who is a tough figure in guarding Munich's goal so far.


Neuer's injury certainly not only costs Germany ahead of Euro 2024, but what is certain is that Bayern Munich must be ready for crucial matches in the rest of the season without Neuer, because reportedly a left adductor injury forced Nueur to miss the games against Dortmund and also Arsenal, losing Neuer is certainly a big loss for Munich who are currently trying to close the gap from Leverkusen and get the Champions League trophy this season as one the only trophy target for them, indeed currently Munich has several replacement goalkeepers such as Sven Ulreich and Daniel Peretz but so far their performance is not as consistent and good as when Neuer played.

A difference of 10 points is very large number and it takes more than 3 wins with 3 defeats for Leverkusen if Bayern Munich wants to win the top of the standings and of course this is impossible.
So if they want to do it then everything will just be in vain and become dream that must be fulfilled bury it deep.
Bayern Munich should not prioritize trying to catch up with Leverkusen because their opponent for the UCL quarter-finals is Arsenal, who are currently in very good condition and can beat Bayern Munich.
At least Bayern Munich must be able to really fight to win and be able to qualify for the semifinals. They will be much more fortunate if they can qualify for the semifinals rather than just being concerned with the Bundesliga title which is clearly impossible to get.
Moreover, when Bayern Munich lost to Arsenal and were eliminated, it was clear that there would be fewer Bundesliga matches so there would be no hope whatsoever for Bayern Munich and there would never be any worries from Leverkusen even though Bayern Munich was focused on the Bundesliga.
Bayern Munich mistake was that from the start they were behind in points and this was the main reason why Bayern Munich was under pressure and was also behind by quite lot of points.