Topic: Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread - page 510. (Read 633925 times)

Yes, the odds sometimes seem completely illogical and in certain cases this is a good opportunity to make money since there is value in betting on curved odds. But it often turns out that bookmakers, as always, “know something” and their assessment turns out to be accurate. When I encounter such cases, I monitor the odds for a couple of days and if they are stable, I assume that there is value here, if they move, then most likely the bookers “know something” and it is better not to take risks here.

After I think about it a little longer, it seems like what you said is true, that he is approaching old age and it's not good to keep him at big club like Munich, but what I'm only worried about right now is if he replaces Manuel Neuer with a new goalkeeper, it looks like Tuchel has to really look for something the right goalkeeper to replace Manuel Neuer because otherwise it will create big problems as is the case in other clubs in other leagues.
So I say retained because it is possible that Tuchel will still replace Manuel Neuer, but not now, maybe when the summer transfer reopens there will be surprise from Tuchel regarding the new goalkeeper.

For Bayern Munich poor performance in recent times, it difficult to guess whether it is purely the fault of several players whose performance has declined or whether this just a way to maintain the physical condition of the players so they don't expend lot of energy in the Bundesliga and will focus on the Champions League.
Yesterday, Bayern Munich lost, but if you look at Bayern Munich defeat, it was only because a small mistake which made the referee make the wrong decision because both players wanted to kick the ball, only for the Bayern Munich defender to accidentally kick the Lazio player leg.
Maybe we also have to see from the other side what actually happened to Bayern Munich, but I still remember how Bayern Munich humiliated Dortmund.

Yes, Manuel Nuer is quite old, but does 37-38 years of age really matter for a goalkeeper? the reason is that he doesn't use much stamina like the players because his job is only to focused on guarding the goal and making saves so there is no harm in Bayern Munich retaining Manuel Nuer at least until his contract end so that Bayern Munich can think about recruiting a new goalkeeper to replace legendary goalkeepers like Manuel Nuer and It is not an easy thing for Bayern Munich to recruit a goalkeeper who has good potential like their flagship goalkeeper.

In my opinion, the decline in Bayern Munich performance is not entirely Manuel Nuer fault because he has guarded Bayern Munich goal for many years and his experiences playing in the big league is not a surprise for Manuel Nuer. I think this is due to the tactics that Thomas Tuchel gave him in the back line, which result in Bayern Munich conceding a goal due to lack of tight goalkeeping.

Bayern Munich two consecutive defeats in two different events have left Tuchel with a bad record. It is hoped that his arrival will bring Bayern even better achievements than Julian Nagelsmann, but so far Bayern losing record in the Tuchel era is worse than in the Nagelsmann era. The results that have just been achieved in the UCL have put Tuchel's abilities in doubt because he is deemed unable to bring Bayern to its best level.

This result proves that Nagelsmann Bayern era was better than Tuchel era. Bayern lost 10 times from 84 matches under Nagelsmann guidance, Meanwhile under Tuchel control, Bayern Munich has lost 10 times in 43 matches. It will be difficult for Bayern to defend the Bundesliga title if they still have difficulty scoring goals. In the last two matches, Bayern always controlled the game, but not a single goal was scored.

Because the strength level of UCL and domestic leagues is different. Leipzig tried as hard as possible when facing Real Madrid even though in the end they still couldn't beat the European king because Real Madrid's strength in the UCL is no doubt and I think Leipzig will end up in the round of 16 because many people are favorites for Real Madrid to win and Leipzig to lose Not because of lack of luck, but because Leipzig will definitely lose against Madrid.
Even so, I want to see Leipzig perform the same as when they played against Madrid in the UCL so they can occupy a higher position than now because Leipzig is still the big Bundesliga team after Dortmund and Munich.

Sadly, Bayern Munich was lost to Lazio. this is really surprising because Bayern is the most favorite club in this match. And Bayern becomes one of the most favorite clubs to win UCL, at least will continue to the next round. But here, it is very surprising with the failure. It looks like it's big and will happen, if Bayern fail to win this season, then Tuchle's position will be increasingly threatened. Or even if they fail to make it to the next round of the UCL, maybe this will result in a tough challenge or a decision that will be quite surprising. The important thing now is that Tuchel must be able to evaluate what is happening with their club. why do there have to be such surprising match results not only in the Bundesliga but in the UCL too. Sad for Bayern Munich.

I'm sure if we talking about a few years ago when Neuer was the best goalkeeper in the world you couldn't say any of these about him.
Neuer is definitely far from the good days he had before and he is not young anymore, also he is back in the good form and after a long time of being injured but I think Neuer was not the player to be blamed and they lost it because Leverkusen had a better coach like Xabi Alonso and better motivation in this team.

Fvck Manuel Neuer truly, lol. They was two goals down and he went out if his eighteen yard box to compete for that ball? What was he thinking honestly?
That was actually unnecessary, it'll have been understandable if it was a goal down but this was close to the end of the game and he went out if his goal so he could be called a hero?

How come he is not perplexed over his own actions?

Further more, I must say that these players are joking and Thomas Tuchel is yet another name to be blamed and I have said what I've said.

Odds are sometimes hilarious. Yesterday I saw in Ligue 1 for exemple Lyon odds are better than Nice ones. I don't know if these odds changed or not because Lyon are bad this season and Nice are the second in the ranking.. Anyway, they have a reason for that for sure!

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In this Bundesliga round, I am curious whether Borussia Dortmund could keep positive results and win against Wolfsburg or not. Odds are better for Dortmund but not that reassuring comparing to Leverkusen or Bayern Munich.

Dortmund in previous seasons have been very much active and eager to chase the trophy. Although at the moment the chase isn't off, they've still got every chance in store to prove themselves. Their game against Wolfsburg is scheduled for this weekend and it's technically a determinant of how good they've been.

 They've had scaly strides from the start of the season up till now, they've managed to scale through in the UCL, no one knows their fate in the next round but there's certainty that there's difference in their performances now and then too. They're a good team that just needs to find back their balance, there confidence level has dropped big and corrections needs to be made soon enough too. There's no time out to let go off winning chances, it'll keep drawing them back.

Leipzig narrow defeat against Real Madrid in the Champions League cannot be assumed to be a good performance about Leipzig because afterall,in the Champions League group stage matches, in fact Real Madrid also only won narrowly against Union Berlin. So ya, if you follow the results that occurred in the group stage when Real Madrid played against Union Berlin, the fact that Real Madrid was also only able to beat Union Berlin with a thin score like 1-0 and 3-2. Despite the fact that Union Berlin is at the bottom of the Budesliga table this season, but Union Berlin also to lose only with a narrow score against Real Madrid.

Moreover, the match between Leipzig v Real Madrid was basically Real Madrid key player like Bellingham was also unavailable due to injury. Therefore, the result Leipzig gets in the Champions League lose with narrow score will in no way change anything for Leipzig position in the Bundesliga table because after all, Union Berlin also managed to give a good fight to Real Madrid in the Champions League group stage, but the fact is that Union Berlin is also still in the lower zone of the Bundesliga table at this moment.

Leipzig's game when facing Real Madrid in the Champions League did not disappoint, they played well even though they lost this match, so I agree that if they could have a game like they did against Real Madrid, then they would be able to be in 3rd place. However, it is indeed a series of defeats them in the Bundesliga means they have to be shifted and it is difficult to stay in that position.
However, looking at their current opportunities, the opportunities are still very big, but with the caveat that they must be able to play better than the 5 matches they have played and ended up losing a lot.
They lost in the first leg of the Chmpions League, their task will be even more difficult to turn things around in the second leg. Real Madrid is strong and they will play as hosts in the second meeting, it will be more difficult for Leipzig.

After a series of bad results, Leipzig must try their best to create a turning point in performance. In my opinion, losing to Madrid is very natural because their opponents are the rulers of Europe. The match against Monchengladbach will actually not be easy, but what is certain is that Leipzig has the ambition to return to the top four of the standings and compete closely with Dortmund. I think everyone can guess Leipzig steps in the Champions League, most likely they will be eliminated early by Madrid, although the opportunity to create a surprise is quite open.

On the other hand, Leipzig had made Dortmund fans worried, because they had been in the top four of the standings for quite a long time, and Dortmund had fallen out of the top four. The competition to win tickets to the Champions League between Dortmund and Leipzig and Stuttgart adds to the fierce competition in the Bundesliga this season. I feel that the positions in the top two will probably not be touched again, Leverkusen and Bayern Munchen will continue to lead until the end of the season, regardless of who will emerge as champions.

Bayern Leverkusen's performance this season surprised many of us because we didn't expect them to be this good after how they played in the previous Bundesliga season. Last season, they did not even qualify for the Champions League. They are the most talked-about team this season, along with Bayern Munich, because they are the only team capable of competing with Bayern and making it extremely difficult for them to win the Bundesliga as they do every year. They are still unsure whether they can achieve that after Bayern Leverkusen defeated them in their most recent meeting, extending their point lead in the standings.


Dortmund are nowhere near winning the Bundesliga this season. They have always given Bayern a difficult time, but their inconsistency this season has prevented them from getting close to Bayern, let alone Leverkusen, who have been playing exceptionally well. They can still qualify for the Champions League, but they are very much unlikely to win the Bundesliga this season.

Playing well and achieving a good result, as we see, are two different things, and by the way, I think Real could improve if it was needed. Leipzig's next game will be against Monchengladbach and I actually think the odds are too optimistic for Leipzig:

1.34 - 5.49 - 7.06

Mönchengladbach is certainly weak this season, but 1.34 after a difficult game with Real, even at home, does not look like good compensation for the risk.

As a goalkeeper, I think he can definitely play longer compared to other players. Players who play in other positions have to maintain their physicality a lot and at this age, they can get injured more often. I know that even he gets injured a lot. I think that might be a reason for him which will cause his performance to drop. But if we talk about Bayern Munich, I do not think they should depend on him for any longer and they should definitely look forward to bringing in another really good goalkeeper.  Because even though he is Manual Neuer, he is not going to be able to continue performing really well at the top of the competition.

Leipzig's performance has been poor in recent times. Leipzig's players are not able to perform well against the big teams. The Leipzig team suffered consecutive defeats against Leverkusen, Stuttgart and Frankfurt. The team then managed to win against Union Berlin, but failed to win against Augsburg. And the team also lost 1-0 against Real Madrid in the Champions League match. Leipzig team will not be able to win against Gladbach if such irregular performance. Gladbach is a strong enough team. And against the big teams, Gladbach's players almost always perform well. I guess Leipzig will probably share the points with Gladbach.

Yes, that is the current result and situation. Unless, if during the previous 11 seasons Bayern Munich did not get a defeat at all in each match, and then this season Bayern Munich got a few defeats in some matches, then of course Tuchel would be the one who would be to blame . But yes, what happened the previous 11 seasons even though Bayern Munich won the Bundesliga trophy but yes, in fact Bayern Munich also still got a few defeats in some of the matches they played in previous seasons.

Therefore, basically Tuchel can still provide a good performance and result for Bayern Munich this season because Bayern Munich also still strong in second place. After all, if for example Bayer Leverkusen is not as good as it is today, I am sure Bayern Munich will also remain at the top of the table. But yes, what can be made, because Bayer Leverkusen with Xabi Alonso has a very extraordinary performance and results this season so ya, no matter how good Bayern Munich will certainly still be difficult to overtake Bayer Leverkusen at the top of the Bundesliga standings this season.

If Leipzig would be playing in the german league the same as they have done yesterday against Real Madrid they would be for sure in the top 3 of the table.
Little bit sad that the last weeks they dont won there games and then in the Champions League they are playing very good and was just unlucky to make the draw.
Hopefully on the coming weekend against Gladbach at home they can win the game.

I agree that Bayern Munich's performance this season hasn't been all that bad, rather it's just that Bayern Leverkusen's performance has improved more than Munich's. Tuchel has been accused by many fans of being to blame for Bayern Munich's not being able to lead the league this season. However, history won't repeat itself forever, so we shouldn't assume that Bayern Munich will consistently win the Bundesliga every year. Leverkusen should take the lead this season because they have shown signs of winning the league. It is not a bad thing if Bayern Munich did not win the Bundesliga title this season; after all, they have won the title 11 times in a row.


I don't think Bayern Munich management are going to sack Tuchel if they failed to achieve the result they expected from him this season, Bayern Munich are still doing well with 50 points, Bayern Leverkusen only have 5 points ahead of them. Tuchel was appointed as the new Bayern Munich head coach last season and he won the Bundesliga title last season, if they fail to win the league this season, firing him is not the best option.