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Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 09, 2023, 06:50:05 AM

If only they had reduced the number of sales of their quality players and kept more within the club to achieve, I'm sure they would have achieved something impressive by now and maybe they could have won the Champions League for the second time. But that's them, business is business, if there is a player who has the potential to bring in a lot of money they will not hesitate to let him go, even if that player is a very scary specter and has contributed a lot to them while in the squad.
And yes that's Drotmund with all its business. Lol

That's why Bayern Munchen was able to dominate the Bundesliga for a decade, there are lots of big names they have orbited over the years. In the end, Dortmund management always let him go in the transfer market, and the consequences for the club were very real, namely a decline in performance.

This season Laverkusen is a team that really deserves to challenge for the championship, and has the potential to break Munchen dominance. Xabi Alonso squad could be a serious challenge for Tuchel, the first three matches show they are very promising this season.

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Quote from: Jateng on September 08, 2023, 01:46:42 PM

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I heard this kind of speculation last season too, when they sold Haaland. Many said that they would not be as strong as the previous season because they sold one of their most important players. And they showed that it was wrong and they remained one of the clubs that had the second biggest chance after Bayern Munich, and even last season they almost won the title if only in the last match they could get full points at that time.

Undoubtedly its important players for Borussia Dortmund Bellingham and Haaland departures have had an effect on the team performance. Dortmund recruiting of young talent is their strength, but they might run into difficulties this year. I think They still have time to demonstrate their dominance in the Bundesliga despite a poor start. Their rivalry with Bayern Munich though might not be as intense. Dortmund chances of qualifying for the UCL are in jeopardy due to the improvement of other Bundesliga teams.

If only they had reduced the number of sales of their quality players and kept more within the club to achieve, I'm sure they would have achieved something impressive by now and maybe they could have won the Champions League for the second time. But that's them, business is business, if there is a player who has the potential to bring in a lot of money they will not hesitate to let him go, even if that player is a very scary specter and has contributed a lot to them while in the squad.
And yes that's Drotmund with all its business. Lol

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Quote from: Velvet78 on September 09, 2023, 04:32:45 AM

Union Berlin got a really big hit by Leipzig home the last time. If they didn't get that red card maybe things could have been better. Because Leipzig were comfortable to increase the goal gap with them after that red card. However I can still consider Union Berlin's start quite decent as they have collected 6 points.

They can be one of the teams being competitive for top 4 again if they keep consistent mostly. They are going to play in the Champions League at the same time so they will need to deal with their tight schedule well too. If they have a good balance I think we will watch decent performances from them in the Bundesliga.

Big matches can change direction, but it looks like Union Berlin is not a team that will immediately go down just because of one heavy defeat, because this defeat is quite acceptable because the red card means they have to choose to catch up or survive so as not to concede more goals, it's just a decision What the coach takes often does not work as expected because the opposing team will also change their strategy to make the situation an advantage that they can exploit.
In one week running 3 matches will really drain the players' energy, especially in the Champions League They will go to Real Madrid's home ground to challenge the Spanish club, their chances are not big and I'm sure Union Berlin's target may only be a draw, but they will still play with full strength in this match, and concentrate again on the Bundesliga to maintain the opportunity to get the same good results as last season.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 08, 2023, 11:02:21 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 08, 2023, 04:45:17 PM

I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.

Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.

You cant sure if there will be another bellingham to come again. Bellingham is bellingham. None will able to be the same like him. It likes you try to find someone who will be able to play as good as haaland and it will never exist.
Dortmund has been losing a lot of important figures in the club. I saw some names that were already recruited by the team but these names were not showing significant impact to the club. Real madrid who has bought bellingham for expensive price already got instant benefit from him.
Finding someone with a great talent in the football is not an easy task. Can we also expect to see barcelona find another messi?
Barcelona has also tried that since messi left from there but barca never got one. The same thing is just happening to the dortmund. Seeling its prominent players to the rivals are also making the team faced harder situation.
I expect this season is gonna be a tough competition for dortmund in bundesliga.

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Quote from: Republikcoin.com on September 09, 2023, 02:25:32 AM

And regarding the competition in the UCL, Dortmund will join the most difficult group with Newcastle, PSG and AC Milan. I think with Dortmund's current performance it seems like there is no chance for them to qualify from this group.

If you look at their main squad, let alone PSG and AC Milan, even Newcastle is still much better than Dortmund, we can see how they play in the Bundesliga. There are no points they got in the last two matches, only a draw and that doesn't convince everyone that they They deserve to qualify for the UCL group because they haven't seen their attacking power that is good enough.

So far what I have noticed is that on the front line they seem to have quite weak and not good attacking power so there needs to be an evaluation to change another strategy so that Dortmund can be better. Before meeting Acmilan in the UCL, they will face Hoffenheim. I would be happy if Dortmund can win this match and improve their position in the current standings.

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I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.

Borussia Dortmund has always sold important players, so it didn't really matter with Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and Dortmund will still be the top team in the Bundeliga, but it must be admitted that this season they won't be as strong as last season and also of course the competition at the top the Bundesliga standings with Bayern will not be as competitive as last season, Dortmund will still be Bayern's shadow.
But you also have to watch out for there are several Bundesliga teams that have started to develop much better this season and that is a bit of a threat to Dortmund at the top of the standings to fight for a ticket to the UCL.

Even if what you say is true, but on the other hand, something like this affects the club because losing a star player is the same as making their performance decline.
In the end they remained in the top 4 but in terms of performance they were not better and striking as before. This remains a loss because with a slick performance in the previous season there is certainly hope that this season they put more pressure on Bayern in the Bundesliga competition.

But it can't be blamed either because this scheme is always done by Dortmund and this is their strategy to bring in profits by selling some of their players for the benefit of the club.

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Quote from: Jateng on September 08, 2023, 01:46:42 PM

Quote from: Jody.Drummer on September 08, 2023, 09:45:37 AM

I heard this kind of speculation last season too, when they sold Haaland. Many said that they would not be as strong as the previous season because they sold one of their most important players. And they showed that it was wrong and they remained one of the clubs that had the second biggest chance after Bayern Munich, and even last season they almost won the title if only in the last match they could get full points at that time.

Undoubtedly its important players for Borussia Dortmund Bellingham and Haaland departures have had an effect on the team performance. Dortmund recruiting of young talent is their strength, but they might run into difficulties this year. I think They still have time to demonstrate their dominance in the Bundesliga despite a poor start. Their rivalry with Bayern Munich though might not be as intense. Dortmund chances of qualifying for the UCL are in jeopardy due to the improvement of other Bundesliga teams.

Dortmund is the best producer of players because this club has produced players like Erling Haaland, Jude Bellingham and sold them to other clubs in Europe for a huge price. Last season, Dortmund sold their star player Jude Bellingham to Real Madrid. The sale of Jude Bellingham took a toll on their team and they are trying to get rid of it. Bundesliga Dortmund is one of the best teams but the team has weakened a bit after the departure of key players this season.
Considering Dortmund's current performance, they cannot compete with Bayern Munich. They definitely need more quality players in their squad to compete with Bayern Munich.

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on September 09, 2023, 12:20:38 AM

Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.

I completely agree when you say they are brilliant in terms of business, but I disagree if it goes to the realm of achievement that you say. yes indeed they have always been the main competitor for Bayern Munich, but being a competitor is not enough because there must be gold ink they must record, whereas in more than a decade in the Bundesliga itself they were unable to stop the dominance held by Bayern Munich. With their ability like that (creating many talented young players) they should be able to utilize it more in terms of achievement and that they have not done until now.

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Union Berlin got a really big hit by Leipzig home the last time. If they didn't get that red card maybe things could have been better. Because Leipzig were comfortable to increase the goal gap with them after that red card. However I can still consider Union Berlin's start quite decent as they have collected 6 points.

They can be one of the teams being competitive for top 4 again if they keep consistent mostly. They are going to play in the Champions League at the same time so they will need to deal with their tight schedule well too. If they have a good balance I think we will watch decent performances from them in the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: len01 on September 09, 2023, 01:36:51 AM

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Dortmund's management is very experienced. And they often sell the best player in their squad. However, their performance remains fairly stable. But it is not the case that their performance will be stable every season. Bellingham was a very important player for Dortmund. And it was Bellingham's performances that kept Dortmund's midfield and attack stable last season. Dortmund's performance has deteriorated since Bellingham's departure this season. Another reason for Dortmund's poor performance is Dortmund's weak attack during the season. Sebastien Haller is not playing well. Dortmund have high expectations from Haller. But he could not score a single goal or assist in three matches. This is one of the reasons for the deterioration of Dortmund's performance.

well, in the end this season Dortmund has appeared unstable and its performance has greatly decreased since selling reliable players like Bellingham Dortmund must try to build new talents again to be able to immediately improve stable performance this season because even if they do not have reliable players at least Dortmund should not have a decline performance that has been very clear in the last few periods of matches and currently Dortmund has to compete in the UCL preliminary round which is a pressure for Dortmund to improve performance otherwise this team will lose another chance.

and to be honest even so I'm still not sure whether Dortmund will be able to compete with other teams in group F while Dortmund will have to compete with PSG, Milan and Newcastle who are currently in a very strong state.

Dortmund has been like that for a long time, they will never care about a decline in performance, and because no other Bundeliga team has risen so they remain safe at the top of the standings (below Bayern) because there is no significant competition from other teams, so I think this season it will remain like that.

And regarding the competition in the UCL, Dortmund will join the most difficult group with Newcastle, PSG and AC Milan. I think with Dortmund's current performance it seems like there is no chance for them to qualify from this group.

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Quote from: $anounimus$ on September 09, 2023, 12:20:38 AM

Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.

Actually Borussia Dortmund can't find replacing for position leaving by star player after selling with fantastic values, before Jude Bellingam sold to Real Madrid have Jadon Sancho sell to Manchester United. After leaving by Sancho, Dortmund can't find right or the save level with Jadon Sancho and they try for promoting many young player but they need time for adapting before have much expensive values in the future. Last sold is Jude Bellingham with fantastic transfer fees above 100 million euro, Dortmund have face with reality difficult in the winning trend last three matches in Bundesliga, have 2 loss of 3 games its bad performance from Dortmund are teams finished on 2nd standings position last season.

I don't know what happen with Dortmund management with believing fully young player without have experience playing regular in domestic league.

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Quote from: laurenB7742 on September 09, 2023, 01:05:57 AM

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Dortmund's management is very experienced. And they often sell the best player in their squad. However, their performance remains fairly stable. But it is not the case that their performance will be stable every season. Bellingham was a very important player for Dortmund. And it was Bellingham's performances that kept Dortmund's midfield and attack stable last season. Dortmund's performance has deteriorated since Bellingham's departure this season. Another reason for Dortmund's poor performance is Dortmund's weak attack during the season. Sebastien Haller is not playing well. Dortmund have high expectations from Haller. But he could not score a single goal or assist in three matches. This is one of the reasons for the deterioration of Dortmund's performance.

well, in the end this season Dortmund has appeared unstable and its performance has greatly decreased since selling reliable players like Bellingham Dortmund must try to build new talents again to be able to immediately improve stable performance this season because even if they do not have reliable players at least Dortmund should not have a decline performance that has been very clear in the last few periods of matches and currently Dortmund has to compete in the UCL preliminary round which is a pressure for Dortmund to improve performance otherwise this team will lose another chance.

and to be honest even so I'm still not sure whether Dortmund will be able to compete with other teams in group F while Dortmund will have to compete with PSG, Milan and Newcastle who are currently in a very strong state.

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Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.

Borussia Dortmund has always sold important players, so it didn't really matter with Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and Dortmund will still be the top team in the Bundeliga, but it must be admitted that this season they won't be as strong as last season and also of course the competition at the top the Bundesliga standings with Bayern will not be as competitive as last season, Dortmund will still be Bayern's shadow.
But you also have to watch out for there are several Bundesliga teams that have started to develop much better this season and that is a bit of a threat to Dortmund at the top of the standings to fight for a ticket to the UCL.

I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.

Dortmund's management is very experienced. And they often sell the best player in their squad. However, their performance remains fairly stable. But it is not the case that their performance will be stable every season. Bellingham was a very important player for Dortmund. And it was Bellingham's performances that kept Dortmund's midfield and attack stable last season. Dortmund's performance has deteriorated since Bellingham's departure this season. Another reason for Dortmund's poor performance is Dortmund's weak attack during the season. Sebastien Haller is not playing well. Dortmund have high expectations from Haller. But he could not score a single goal or assist in three matches. This is one of the reasons for the deterioration of Dortmund's performance.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 08, 2023, 11:02:21 PM

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I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.

Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.

This young player has provided valuable things such as several goals and assists for Dortmund and he also made a lot of money when Real Madrid decided to buy him but on the other hand there is a profit from the sale of Jude Bellingham now Dortmund is having difficulty finding a replacement for a player like Jude. Bellingham because previously he has been one of the talented young players for Dortmund.

What amazing is that Jude Bellingham has only been with Real Madrid for a few months has been able to provide 5 goals and 1 assist at the start of the season in La Liga.
Maybe Dortmund and Edin Terzic also feel some disappointment over the decision to sell Jude Bellingham.

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Quote from: borovichok on September 08, 2023, 11:02:21 PM

Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 08, 2023, 04:45:17 PM

I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.

Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.

Not only Belllingham but Dortmund has given birth to quite a number of talented players and they always sell it when there are teams who dare to offer high prices. Although able to replace with other players, but I think the concept that De Borrusen built was quite brilliant because in addition to pursuing achievements but they also always won business, they were also always able to be the main competitors in the Bundesliga.

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Quote from: Leviathan.007 on September 08, 2023, 04:45:17 PM

I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.

Good players results in brilliant performance for the entire team. Edin Terzic knows what's valuable gone this summer all because the club more interested in generate significant good figures in the transfer window. However there's always a ground to settle for what's left with them by recruiting new backup players that would definitely be ready for the market in the forthcoming years. Jude Bellingham was a prominent player for Borrusia Dortmund, gaining enough experience and playing like a pro on the pitch for Die Borussen Die Schwarzgelben.

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Bellingham was Borussia Dortmund's biggest weapon. The same situation was true for Haaland last year. The team got a little worse after Haaland left. After Bellingham left, Dortmund got worse. Dortmund is a team that is adept at recruiting young and talented players. They may be bad this year, but they can make up for that deficiency soon. The observer team is very good.

I don't think that Dortmund will be bad this season even though at the start of this season Dortmund was not yet at the top of the standings after playing three matches in the Bundesliga. But Dortmund still has a lot of matches to prove that they are still strong enough in the Bundesliga, even though Dortmund might not be that good in the UCL, but if it's just in the Bundesliga, I think Dortmund still has to be taken into account by its opponents.

Borussia Dortmund has always sold important players, so it didn't really matter with Bellingham's transfer to Real Madrid and Dortmund will still be the top team in the Bundeliga, but it must be admitted that this season they won't be as strong as last season and also of course the competition at the top the Bundesliga standings with Bayern will not be as competitive as last season, Dortmund will still be Bayern's shadow.
But you also have to watch out for there are several Bundesliga teams that have started to develop much better this season and that is a bit of a threat to Dortmund at the top of the standings to fight for a ticket to the UCL.

I don't agree with you because a palyer like Juge Bellingham is important for any team and Dortmund surely spent too much for growing a palyer like him because he also had a good performance when he was playing on that team and now you can see this palyer is even shining in Real Madrid. But Drtomund can still be on top of table Bundesliga table with or without Bellingham in their team.

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Victor Boniface is the most successful transfer this summer for Leverkusen. The reason is that currently he has scored 4 goals and 2 assists with Leverkusen and I think he will start to fill the Bundesliga top scorer this season. Last season, when he was still defending his previous team Saint Gilloise, he recorded a total of 22 goals in all competitions and as a striker he was also quite productive with 12 assists. I didn't expect Xabi Alonso to find this hidden gem and now Victor Boniface will be the focus for Leverkusen to achieve their targets this season, especially securing the champions league zone. But even if there is another target that is quite impossible, I think Leverkusen will become a new challenger for the Bundesliga title.

The most successful transfer by leverkusen was recruiting xabi as a new coach. I thought that if leverkusen cannot recruit him if xabi was not picking him to be recruited by bayern. Having xabi on leverkusen has been also improving the club a lot.
It's not only from the way he was treating his club but xabi was also helping the club in scouting the outstanding player to be recruited by the club. I can't wait to see the match between bayern munchen vs bayern leverkusen.
Finding an hidden gem is the most difficult thing that can be done by leverkusen. Changing the fortunes of Leverkusen in such a short period of time is no small feat, and I must say that I appreciate him a lot for it.

True, from the figure of a coach, of course Xabi Alonso is the most successful coach that Leverkusen has managed to get and even now there are sure to be quite a number of top European teams starting to look at him. We know that it is quite impossible for a team like Leverkusen to rise quickly since last season and that is all thanks to the cool hands of Xabi Alonso who concocted a good strategy so that he can always get maximum results. It's been a long time since I've seen Leverkusen with such a good composition and the match between Leverkusen and Bayern Munich will definitely be very exciting, considering that Bayern Munich must beat Leverkusen and keep their distance if they want to move on with certainty as the defending champions this season.

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Quote from: sana54210 on September 08, 2023, 03:22:11 PM

The problem is that when they sold Sancho, they still had Haaland and Jude there, when they sold Haaland, they had Jude still there, now that Jude is gone as well, who is there? There isn't a single player that worths that much money left in the club. Sure they have some good players but none of them worths that much and they are not going to end up paying anyone anything that big anymore.

They are going to end up with something much better if they could find some young stars again, it is not impossible and it can be done but I think it is not going to happen. This is why I believe that it is going to be a bit more tough for them and I believe that the results will not be as highly regarded as people think it will be.

The season just began and when the team gets back to it's full form we'll begin to see the full potential of their current player, when Haaland left it took Jude Bellingham a little while to become the star player for the team last season, and since this season is still fresh let's give them a little time to see the best of their current young developing star.
Currently all eyes would be on Karim Adeyemi cause he seem like the best young star for the club after Jude and was very impressive for them last season in both domestic and top league competitions and currently his asking price is higher than what they got him from Salzburg, they got him for €38m but you'll be shocked to see that he'll be sold for €80m plus by summer.

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Quote from: bct_ail on September 08, 2023, 03:09:33 PM

Stuttgart has changed since last season. They won both home games in the Bundesliga and now they have also won a test match. They played 8:3 against St. Gallen. If you consider that last season they had to go to the relegation and fought against relegation for almost the whole season.

I couldn't agree more about Stuttgart's look this season. They have started to do something better in offense especially and they are getting efficiency from this a lot now. They demolished a team like Freiburg by 5-0 recently. This isn't a thing that you can do with just luck. They were very efficient about making use of their shots on goal. Nearly all of them ended with goals I mean.

But the important point is about how long they can maintain a good work. Can they be a team like Union Berlin? You know how impressive Union Berlin were last season. We are going to watch them perform in the Champions League this season.

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