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member
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November 30, 2012, 12:22:19 PM
Did giga explain why he needed all this stuff from us?  I still don't get why our email address + wallet id + forum presence isn't enough.  I'd be happy to fine telling him my real name, but my tax id and photo ID? Why assume we even have them or am in the US?  Giga told me in another thread once that he only worked "in bitcoins".  For us to start getting random bit coin payments (I want my dividends!) why does that affect anything in the legal arena, its just data.  Isn't this the whole point of bitcoin?
legendary
Activity: 2352
Merit: 1064
Bitcoin is antisemitic
November 30, 2012, 08:48:54 AM
2) No one who participated in the exchange (issuers or traders) knew it was illegal, and they operated in good faith.1

B/S. And therefore all your deductions are B/S too.
Everybody knew from day one that GLBSE was absolutely illegal, not regulated and therefore worth just as much Nefario's trustworthiness.  In fact Nefario was always bragging that he was beyond the law "because Bitcoin" (there is even a videoclip of him telling just that a few days before the closing).

Now issuers who trusted Nefario should be ready to pay the consequences or their (maybe wrong) choice to trust Nefario, or at least be consistent with their choice. As serious businessman they should own any consequence of their choices, not because they do not put their personal interest above anything else, but because they should know that their reputation is their most precious and irreplaceable asset.

Vice versa, changing the rules after taking the money is the most criminal act in all this.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 522
November 30, 2012, 07:14:54 AM
newbie
Activity: 49
Merit: 0
November 30, 2012, 07:09:45 AM
I still think you take completely advantage of the current situation, other bond issuers handle this issue way more professional !

I just heard from a German friend, that is is forbidden to copy their I.D.
Why would just anybody trust you and give you all this confidential data...

I am tired of your excuses !
At the moment you are just not more than a little scammer !


member
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November 30, 2012, 03:40:28 AM
Sorry, not calling giga a long con at all.  Calling myself as in the Nefario fake forum account a long con.  English is failing me.
full member
Activity: 231
Merit: 100
November 29, 2012, 09:57:06 PM
To all Gigaminers:

First, thanks to everyone who has submitted a claim. We will be reviewing then and verifying them against the list provided by GLBSE to start making payments. To make it easier to submit a claim, I will be creating a PDF file that you can print, fill out, sign and notarize. Multiple people have asked for this and I will certainly provide it.



When is this PDF going to be coming out... HuhHuh

Naelr
member
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November 29, 2012, 08:59:05 PM
Hmmm I don't think I sounded aggressive.  Maybe I wasn't clear enough about how I used "long con", I still don't get why I have to prove my identity to giga.  From what I understand  he thinks that the whole list might be a con from nefario.  That doesn't make sense considering I, a forum member for well over a year (small compared to you, yes but still) am probably not a fake forum account created by nefario unless nefario pulled a long con.  I found my address, it has the right share amount, I know my email address and wallet ID match.  I still don't understand why that's not enough. 
hero member
Activity: 651
Merit: 501
My PGP Key: 92C7689C
November 29, 2012, 02:46:26 PM
After finding that I had a double refund from GLBSE, I've tried contacting Nefario to get this thing sorted.  At first, I just added him to the last PM I sent gigavps, but he's not receiving those (is it a restriction on scammers?).  I then sent email, as I had some concern about whether I would be properly credited if I sent the second refund to 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j.  It's been two days, and still no response from Nefario.  Roll Eyes

I've send email to [email protected] and couple of weeks later forwarded to [email protected]
I've got response from the second email - but after several days.
So excess coins returned back, but no reply from him yet.

I had used [email protected], which is in his profile here.  I've resent with the two addresses above...we'll see how it goes.
hero member
Activity: 547
Merit: 531
First bits: 12good
November 29, 2012, 02:19:25 PM
After finding that I had a double refund from GLBSE, I've tried contacting Nefario to get this thing sorted.  At first, I just added him to the last PM I sent gigavps, but he's not receiving those (is it a restriction on scammers?).  I then sent email, as I had some concern about whether I would be properly credited if I sent the second refund to 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j.  It's been two days, and still no response from Nefario.  Roll Eyes

I've send email to [email protected] and couple of weeks later forwarded to [email protected]
I've got response from the second email - but after several days.
So excess coins returned back, but no reply from him yet.
hero member
Activity: 651
Merit: 501
My PGP Key: 92C7689C
November 29, 2012, 01:38:22 PM
After finding that I had a double refund from GLBSE, I've tried contacting Nefario to get this thing sorted.  At first, I just added him to the last PM I sent gigavps, but he's not receiving those (is it a restriction on scammers?).  I then sent email, as I had some concern about whether I would be properly credited if I sent the second refund to 1BgPRMk4uaJrohM1T9Cn4Hd9pHaEL6FH5j.  It's been two days, and still no response from Nefario.  Roll Eyes
member
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November 29, 2012, 01:18:04 AM
I still don't get it.  I went looked at the GLBSE data and found the hash of my address.  The amount of shares matches exactly what I expected, but I have to send in a bunch of personal information because I might be fake account created by Nefario?   That's a long con considering how long ago I created my bitcointalk account.  If I can match the email address and the wallet ID isn't that good? 

What do you guys think, is any of this worth it for less than 30 shares? What's the threshold?
hero member
Activity: 784
Merit: 1000
Casper - A failed entrepenuer who looks like Zhou
November 28, 2012, 11:59:58 PM
Sweet! I followed the directions finding me address hash and sure enough my shares are listed there. Now what? Don't tell me we still have to jump through all of those lawyer hoops!

Nope, you're special.  When he laid out those procedures, he really meant everyone but you.

Hope I could be one of the guys to get the bond and dividend directly. I got 2 shares
hero member
Activity: 619
Merit: 500
November 28, 2012, 04:42:47 PM
Sweet! I followed the directions finding me address hash and sure enough my shares are listed there. Now what? Don't tell me we still have to jump through all of those lawyer hoops!

The problem is that gigavps does not trust this list because it came from nefario.
I guess the list is only good for people who have no knowledge about how many shares they had. But then again Gigavps says he can't trust nefario, so how can he know that people will find the correct number of shares?

Let's say the list shows to few or none of your shares
You will have to do the lawyer stuff claiming the amount you say is correct.
Gigavps can't know if you are lying or the list is false because he does not trust nefario. So what's the point?


And let's say Gigavps finds out that you did claim to much. Well good luck opening a civil law suit against people from various non USA countries.
hero member
Activity: 614
Merit: 500
November 28, 2012, 02:26:47 PM
Sweet! I followed the directions finding me address hash and sure enough my shares are listed there. Now what? Don't tell me we still have to jump through all of those lawyer hoops!

Nope, you're special.  When he laid out those procedures, he really meant everyone but you.

Sweet!
vip
Activity: 574
Merit: 500
Don't send me a pm unless you gpg encrypt it.
November 28, 2012, 02:23:50 PM
Sweet! I followed the directions finding me address hash and sure enough my shares are listed there. Now what? Don't tell me we still have to jump through all of those lawyer hoops!

Nope, you're special.  When he laid out those procedures, he really meant everyone but you.
hero member
Activity: 614
Merit: 500
November 28, 2012, 02:21:33 PM
Sweet! I followed the directions finding me address hash and sure enough my shares are listed there. Now what? Don't tell me we still have to jump through all of those lawyer hoops!
hero member
Activity: 826
Merit: 1000
November 28, 2012, 08:13:44 AM
So, upon further review, it seems as if I never had a withdraw address for GLBSE. I imported my old wallet.dat file I had, but could no longer use because I switched to Fedora and can't for the life of me figure out how to run the Satoshi client, into the new nice and easy wallet importer offered at blockchain.info. It's empty because I earlier transferred all of the coins out of it into a different wallet. But it shows me all of my old receiving addresses and there is nothing there for GLBSE, which makes perfect sense because I never withdrew any coin from GLBSE. I only sent GLBSE coin, and then turned around and bought Gigamining bonds with it. So, what I am to do?

You need to fill out the claim form on glbse.com.
The address you define after login will be the one used for the withdraw.

EVERYONE who has bonds or coins (and cares to get them back), should do that. You won't get anything without doing so.
hero member
Activity: 619
Merit: 500
November 28, 2012, 04:57:31 AM
So, upon further review, it seems as if I never had a withdraw address for GLBSE. I imported my old wallet.dat file I had, but could no longer use because I switched to Fedora and can't for the life of me figure out how to run the Satoshi client, into the new nice and easy wallet importer offered at blockchain.info. It's empty because I earlier transferred all of the coins out of it into a different wallet. But it shows me all of my old receiving addresses and there is nothing there for GLBSE, which makes perfect sense because I never withdrew any coin from GLBSE. I only sent GLBSE coin, and then turned around and bought Gigamining bonds with it. So, what I am to do?

You need to fill out the claim form on glbse.com.
The address you define after login will be the one used for the withdraw.
hero member
Activity: 614
Merit: 500
November 28, 2012, 04:00:39 AM
To all Gigaminers:

I have also added an sha256 hashed version of the lists given to me by GLBSE. The list has been obfuscated so that you can easily find your record but not know others records. I will update this list as GLBSE sends me more information.

http://gigamining.com/glbse-records.html

For those of us that are not quite as tech-savvy as others. Here is what you do:

1. Copy your bitcoin address ("1...").
2. Go to http://hash.online-convert.com/sha256-generator.
3. Paste or enter your bitcoin address into the first box (labeled "Text you want to convert to a SHA-256 hash").
4. Click on the "Convert file" button down below.
5. Copy the string of digits and letters following "hex:".
6. Go to the gigamining page above.
7. Search for that string of digits and letters to find the number of shares you own.


And if we've lost our Bitcoin address that was on file with GLBSE?

So, upon further review, it seems as if I never had a withdraw address for GLBSE. I imported my old wallet.dat file I had, but could no longer use because I switched to Fedora and can't for the life of me figure out how to run the Satoshi client, into the new nice and easy wallet importer offered at blockchain.info. It's empty because I earlier transferred all of the coins out of it into a different wallet. But it shows me all of my old receiving addresses and there is nothing there for GLBSE, which makes perfect sense because I never withdrew any coin from GLBSE. I only sent GLBSE coin, and then turned around and bought Gigamining bonds with it. So, what I am to do?
hero member
Activity: 614
Merit: 500
November 28, 2012, 03:52:40 AM
To all Gigaminers:

I have also added an sha256 hashed version of the lists given to me by GLBSE. The list has been obfuscated so that you can easily find your record but not know others records. I will update this list as GLBSE sends me more information.

http://gigamining.com/glbse-records.html

For those of us that are not quite as tech-savvy as others. Here is what you do:

1. Copy your bitcoin address ("1...").
2. Go to http://hash.online-convert.com/sha256-generator.
3. Paste or enter your bitcoin address into the first box (labeled "Text you want to convert to a SHA-256 hash").
4. Click on the "Convert file" button down below.
5. Copy the string of digits and letters following "hex:".
6. Go to the gigamining page above.
7. Search for that string of digits and letters to find the number of shares you own.


And if we've lost our Bitcoin address that was on file with GLBSE?
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