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legendary
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July 09, 2012, 05:39:21 AM
So i decided to waste more time with this while waiying for the rain storm to pass.
In my previous post to  Gigamining -> Teramining Upgrade Path I attempted to figure out is this upgrade a really sweet deal or this just another rip off wrapped in a shiny paper and offered to us by a beady-eyed, smooth talking scam artist.

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Table 1
                                           $      Gh      $/Gh
1. Paid by bond IPO         FPGA SC     15295     25     611.80
2. Upgrade IS paid by
   bond IPO on line 1       ASIC SC     29899   1000      29.90 

Initially paid by IPO,
conv. to ASIC, gain ratio                                 20.46 x

                             

I guess it is clear what I did here in Table 1. All the FPGA stuff that vps has ordered and is pay'd by you, dear turd ("bond") holders is getting swapped to 20.4 times faster equipment. And yes, it is all paid by you. 
We got our 5 Mh turds for it and when diff started to climb, people started to realize that 5 Mh will keep losing value fast. (This trend will continue in long term and same thing will happen to 100 Mh ASIC turds.) People got pissed off and then the a* holes from BFL released the PR FUD package.
Now most of you realized, that 5 Mh turds will be worthless in matter of [insert BFL promised time frame here]. Suddenly people realized tha VPS can swap this pile of FPGA to 20 times faster (per invested dollar) ASIC's and ... here we are now. 


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Table 2 
Upgrade            Giga 5 Mh T     new Tera Turd Mh     gain ration   Your Loss

No additional fee            5           25                       5         400% 

Pay 0.25 BTC per bond
(25% IPO price)              5          100                      20   (You have to pay a fee!)

Fee adjusted swap         6.25          100                      16          27%

                             

Here, in Table 2,  I am trying to understand, what really happens, if this swap gets completed.
At this point, it looks like I am getting scammed no matter what I do.


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Table 3 
                                  Shares sold       fee for    vps skims
                                       in IPO       nothing     BTC

Fee will generate up to                40000          0.25     10000

20% will be happy to lose 400%                                  8000

30% will be happy to lose 400%                                  7000

VPS answer to my question was as empty and meaningless like a answer from a scumbag politician:
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"Your assumptions are off as not everyone will choose the paid upgrade path. I have tried to keep Gigamining owners from being left behind when ASIC arrives with the free upgrade option.
I appreciate you taking the time to reply.

Best,
gigavps"

As you can see, he is not denying that he rips us all off and pockets a massive amount of BTC. As a slippery politician, he just made most of you feel all warm and fuzzy. 

Did I calculate something wrong? If so, can you please keep it to the point and use similar layout, so we all can see, where did I go wrong.

Cheers!
PS! I feel sorry for ya'll who have to spend your days indoors. Rain has stopped and my kayak is ready to go Wink
sr. member
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July 08, 2012, 12:30:33 PM
Does it have to be a exact number?
I might want to pick up some more shares later on Wink.
So should I just take the amount I am currently holding?
//DeaDTerra

I put how much I plan on having when this happens.  I'm acquiring more as we speak. Smiley
legendary
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July 08, 2012, 11:08:54 AM
Does it have to be a exact number?
I put "all available to me at that time". I'm sure it's not what gigavps had in mind with that form, but it's true!
donator
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July 08, 2012, 10:54:55 AM
Does it have to be a exact number?
I might want to pick up some more shares later on Wink.
So should I just take the amount I am currently holding?
//DeaDTerra
vip
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AKA: gigavps
July 08, 2012, 06:58:05 AM
There's no reason to do this ASAP or anything, is there? I usually don't plan this far ahead so I'd rather wait a bit.

I am more interested in gauging interest than a final count. It is fine if you prefer to wait.
hero member
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July 08, 2012, 06:30:08 AM
Thanks to everyone for your feedback thus far on the transition from Gigamining to Teramining. The response has been overwhelmingly positive thus far.

If you feel that your holdings in Gigamining are going to be stable until October, we can start the process of collecting upgrade choices.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dE1KdUpIRWNGbmQ0c3QtTzB2YzFPSmc6MQ

The form should be pretty simple to fill out and will allow me to start getting a sense of what's to come.

Best,
gigavps
There's no reason to do this ASAP or anything, is there? I usually don't plan this far ahead so I'd rather wait a bit.
donator
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July 08, 2012, 06:23:20 AM
The Gigamining bond price has perked up appreciably (BTC1.18/BTC1.20) to the news of your upgrade offers which is nice to see (*kicks self for being too slow yesterday moving funds to GLBSE to scoop a bunch of < BTC1's up*)

Form filled for 500 bonds on the paid upgrade path, many thanks.
vip
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AKA: gigavps
July 08, 2012, 06:03:44 AM
Thanks to everyone for your feedback thus far on the transition from Gigamining to Teramining. The response has been overwhelmingly positive thus far.

If you feel that your holdings in Gigamining are going to be stable until October, we can start the process of collecting upgrade choices.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dE1KdUpIRWNGbmQ0c3QtTzB2YzFPSmc6MQ

The form should be pretty simple to fill out and will allow me to start getting a sense of what's to come.

Best,
gigavps
sr. member
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July 07, 2012, 01:17:09 PM
me likey!
vip
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AKA: gigavps
July 07, 2012, 12:37:40 PM
Works for me.

+1

Thanks guys.

The feedback thus far has been positive overall both on the forums and IRC.
legendary
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Drunk Posts
July 07, 2012, 12:32:35 PM
To all gigaminers:

I am requesting feedback on the upgrade paths to teramining.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/feedback-requsted-gigamining-teramining-upgrade-paths-92090

Please comment in the other thread if you have any comments or suggestions.

Best,
gigavps

Works for me.

+1
legendary
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DiabloMiner author
July 07, 2012, 09:47:16 AM
To all gigaminers:

I am requesting feedback on the upgrade paths to teramining.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/feedback-requsted-gigamining-teramining-upgrade-paths-92090

Please comment in the other thread if you have any comments or suggestions.

Best,
gigavps

Works for me.
vip
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AKA: gigavps
July 07, 2012, 09:39:58 AM
To all gigaminers:

I am requesting feedback on the upgrade paths to teramining.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/feedback-requsted-gigamining-teramining-upgrade-paths-92090

Please comment in the other thread if you have any comments or suggestions.

Best,
gigavps
sr. member
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July 03, 2012, 06:20:30 AM
It's so quiet here, everyone have holidays?
Is there another place with speculations about these bonds?
Smiley

There is a whole mining speculation section now. That might be a good place to start rumors a new thread.  Grin
vip
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AKA: gigavps
July 03, 2012, 05:34:16 AM
It's so quiet here, everyone have holidays?
Is there another place with speculations about these bonds?
Smiley

Making your own thread might be a good start.  Smiley
sr. member
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July 03, 2012, 04:01:48 AM
It's so quiet here, everyone have holidays?
Is there another place with speculations about these bonds?
Smiley
vip
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AKA: gigavps
July 02, 2012, 04:53:37 AM
To all gigaminers:

The second 110% coupon payment is out. The mini rigs are running flawlessly and the forth mini rig should arrive back in the gigamining cave this week.

Best,
gigavps
donator
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June 29, 2012, 03:32:45 PM
thanks guys
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June 29, 2012, 02:50:12 PM
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